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1. 06:41 AM - Re: Fuel tanks (D& D Syverson)
2. 08:20 AM - Re: Fuel tanks (Alan & Linda Daniels)
3. 10:49 AM - Re: Fuel tanks (Ron Liebmann)
4. 11:42 AM - Re: Happy New Year to the Kitfox List (Fox5flyer)
5. 11:43 AM - Frappr Map Addition (Cudnohufsky's)
6. 11:44 AM - Re: Fuel tanks (Lowell Fitt)
7. 12:31 PM - First Flight. (Glenn Horne)
8. 12:31 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (Graeme Toft)
9. 12:37 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (jdmcbean)
10. 12:37 PM - Re: Mk7 Flaperon Horn Position (jdmcbean)
11. 12:37 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (jdmcbean)
12. 12:38 PM - Re: Happy New Year to the Kitfox List (jdmcbean)
13. 12:41 PM - Re: First Flight. (Dee Young)
14. 12:58 PM - Re: First Flight. (Bradley M Webb)
15. 01:01 PM - Door latch sources? (Bradley M Webb)
16. 01:19 PM - Re: First Flight. (Glenn Horne)
17. 01:56 PM - Re: First Flight. (D& D Syverson)
18. 05:11 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (Brett Walmsley)
19. 05:39 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (jdmcbean)
20. 06:08 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (Brett Walmsley)
21. 08:41 PM - Re: First Flight. (Lowell Fitt)
22. 09:23 PM - Fuel Flow Meters (Andy Fultz)
23. 10:20 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Meters (Graeme Toft)
24. 10:36 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Meters (Andy Fultz)
25. 11:52 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
Graeme,
Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the
nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks
when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be).
1) Any idea how old the tanks are?
2) What kind of fuel was run in the tanks over their lifetime (100LL, Auto
Gas, Corn gas - meaning real gas mixed with ethanol, etc)?
3) Were the tanks coated with a sloshing compound, epoxy paint or anything
else on the inside?
4) What part of the tanks were the thin areas located?
I just picked up a set of tanks (Not from Skystar) for the construction of my
model 7 and they appear to be very well done - the fiberglass is thick and
uniform and very rigid (triple baffled). The seams are very solid - not much
evidence of bubbles in the resin anywhere.
Any additional info on your observations would be useful and appreciated.
Thanks,
Dave S
St Paul, MN
On Saturday 31 December 2005 8:06 pm, Graeme Toft wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Hi Guys, for your interest I have stripped the wings and noticed both fuel
> tanks have very small crazing in the glass which has been obviously leaking
> very slowly over the life of the plane. T
>
> Graeme Toft
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there
was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in
about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to
keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin
and better built.
D& D Syverson wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
>
>Graeme,
>
>Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the
>nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks
>when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be).
>
>1) Any idea how old the tanks are?
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Liebmann" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
I am wondering when and if my 13 gal fiberglass tank will give way after
reading so much over time about the glass being susceptible to breakdown
from various fuels. My tank came to me in 1990 from Denney Aircraft with no
sloshing at all. The installation instructions said nothing about sloshing
them. You could then and now see the glass weave in the tank. I have had no
leaks at all. I guess I'll just keep watching for them.
Ron N55KF
> I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there
> was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in
> about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to
> keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin
> and better built.
>
>
> D& D Syverson wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
>>
>>Graeme,
>>
>>Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the
>>nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks
>>when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be).
>>
>>1) Any idea how old the tanks are?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Happy New Year to the Kitfox List |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
I echo your toast to the List Don and more importantly I toast right back to
you, my friend and cohort. I wish you a happy and productive 2006.
And to all of you on the list, my best wishes with many smooth-air days and
20 knot tailwind x/cs.
Deke Morisse
Kitfox List Co-Administrator and Janitor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Happy New Year to the Kitfox List
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
<donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
> It is the New Year in many parts of the world, but not right now in my
> little corner here in Seattle. I want to wish each and every Kitfox List
> member a very happy, prosperous and safe 2006. May all your flights be
fun,
> safe, and have happy endings.
>
> Here is a toast I always give at weddings, but it is very applicable now:
>
> "May the happiest year of your past be the worst year of your future."
>
> Don Pearsall
> List co-Administrator
>
>
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| Subject: | Frappr Map Addition |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net>
Group,
Just a quick note to let you know I posted my project on the frappr pin map,
I guess this means I will need to start making progress again.
Lloyd,
Upper Michigan,
Model 5
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Ron, I think that is a good plan. Mine started leaking at abut 500 hours
and was apparent by the blisters in the paint on the tops of the wings. Of
course there was the slight fuel smell, that was always attributed to the
various fuel line connections.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Liebmann" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Liebmann" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
>
> I am wondering when and if my 13 gal fiberglass tank will give way after
> reading so much over time about the glass being susceptible to breakdown
> from various fuels. My tank came to me in 1990 from Denney Aircraft with
> no
> sloshing at all. The installation instructions said nothing about sloshing
> them. You could then and now see the glass weave in the tank. I have had
> no
> leaks at all. I guess I'll just keep watching for them.
>
> Ron N55KF
>
>
>> I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there
>> was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in
>> about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to
>> keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin
>> and better built.
>>
>>
>> D& D Syverson wrote:
>>
>>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
>>>
>>>Graeme,
>>>
>>>Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is
>>>the
>>>nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular
>>>tanks
>>>when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be).
>>>
>>>1) Any idea how old the tanks are?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
OK guys. First flight for the Fox Model II. today.
My Son flew it and did it ever fly good.
Hope to get the 40 hr's soon. Hope to get some picture
on the web site soon if I can figure out how to do
it..
Glenn Horne Suffolk, Va.
Model II 582.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
Dave, the Kit was purchased in 1998 and fuel used has always been Avgas. No
sloshing compound is obvious and I would say from there weight none has
been applied in this case. It is only the bottom of the tanks that appear to
be affected. The colour of the tanks are a bluish green. A friend in the
fibre glass boating industry has inspected the tanks and is convinced the
defects resulted from poor mould lay up of the glass. I would say one with
defects such as this would be bad luck but to have 2 of them may be a
concern for a few of us.
Cheers
Graeme Toft
----- Original Message -----
From: "D& D Syverson" <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
>
> Graeme,
>
> Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the
> nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks
> when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be).
>
> 1) Any idea how old the tanks are?
>
> 2) What kind of fuel was run in the tanks over their lifetime (100LL, Auto
> Gas, Corn gas - meaning real gas mixed with ethanol, etc)?
>
> 3) Were the tanks coated with a sloshing compound, epoxy paint or anything
> else on the inside?
>
> 4) What part of the tanks were the thin areas located?
>
> I just picked up a set of tanks (Not from Skystar) for the construction of
> my
> model 7 and they appear to be very well done - the fiberglass is thick and
> uniform and very rigid (triple baffled). The seams are very solid - not
> much
> evidence of bubbles in the resin anywhere.
>
> Any additional info on your observations would be useful and appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave S
> St Paul, MN
>
>
> On Saturday 31 December 2005 8:06 pm, Graeme Toft wrote:
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>>
>> Hi Guys, for your interest I have stripped the wings and noticed both
>> fuel
>> tanks have very small crazing in the glass which has been obviously
>> leaking
>> very slowly over the life of the plane. T
>>
>> Graeme Toft
>
>
> --
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
June 1995 is when the change was introduced. Prior to that the tanks should
be sloshed..
Have a Safe New Year !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
Daniels
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there
was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in
about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to
keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin
and better built.
D& D Syverson wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
>
>Graeme,
>
>Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the
>nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks
>when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be).
>
>1) Any idea how old the tanks are?
>
>
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| Subject: | Mk7 Flaperon Horn Position |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
David,
You may have run into 2 different drawings in the manual.. I do not have
the manuals to confirm this but the Old Style Flaperon was a symmetrical
airfoil and therefore the chord line would go through the spar center...
However, the Series 7 style flaperon is not symmetrical and therefore the
chord line would fall below the spar... I believe the blocks should split at
the chord line.
Have a Safe New Year !!
John McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David Steade
Subject: Kitfox-List: Mk7 Flaperon Horn Position
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Steade" <steade@btinternet.com>
Hi All
Thanks for the recent advice regarding a spinner . Now I wonder is there
anyone who can give me come guidance regarding the flaperon setup.
I am building a Mk7 with a manual dating from July 03. Page 69 shows diagram
P-1 the "Flaperon Clamping Fixture". This fixture shows the cord line of the
airfoil on the split line of the wood blocks and importantly with the
semi-symmetrical airfoil places the centre of the aluminium tubular spar
above the split line.
Now when looking at page 73 figure P-3 I am confused as the airfoil is shown
with the cord line placed below the split line and the centre of the
aluminium tube now appears to be positioned on the split line.
From my knowledge I believe that the dimensions for the position of the horn
on the symmetrical section flaperon where the cord line is the same position
as the centre line of the aluminium tube is also 5/32" and 1-3/32 " as shown
in my manual.
From my reasoning figure P-3 must be wrong as the blocks made to figure P-1
must place the cord line on the split line and therefore the centre of the
aluminium spar tube must be above the split line ( by about 3/16" as far as
I can see ).
If this is so then to obtain the same angle between the cord line and the
horn for both the symmetrical and the semi-symmetrical flaperons if would
appear that the setting heights for the symmetrical and semi-symmetrical
flaperons must be different.
Any advice would be very welcome.
Regards
David Steade
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Ron,
Keep an eye on them.. some reported not having any issues...
Have a Safe New Year !!
John McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron Liebmann
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Liebmann" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
I am wondering when and if my 13 gal fiberglass tank will give way after
reading so much over time about the glass being susceptible to breakdown
from various fuels. My tank came to me in 1990 from Denney Aircraft with no
sloshing at all. The installation instructions said nothing about sloshing
them. You could then and now see the glass weave in the tank. I have had no
leaks at all. I guess I'll just keep watching for them.
Ron N55KF
> I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there
> was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in
> about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to
> keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin
> and better built.
>
>
> D& D Syverson wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
>>
>>Graeme,
>>
>>Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the
>>nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks
>>when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be).
>>
>>1) Any idea how old the tanks are?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Happy New Year to the Kitfox List |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
We'll third that one.... Happy New Year !!
Have a Safe New Year !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Pearsall
Subject: Kitfox-List: Happy New Year to the Kitfox List
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
It is the New Year in many parts of the world, but not right now in my
little corner here in Seattle. I want to wish each and every Kitfox List
member a very happy, prosperous and safe 2006. May all your flights be fun,
safe, and have happy endings.
Here is a toast I always give at weddings, but it is very applicable now:
"May the happiest year of your past be the worst year of your future."
Don Pearsall
List co-Administrator
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Way to go Glenn, glad to hear your back in business.
Dee Young
Model II
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Horne<mailto:glennflys@verizon.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 1:30 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net<mailto:glennflys@verizon.net>>
OK guys. First flight for the Fox Model II. today.
My Son flew it and did it ever fly good.
Hope to get the 40 hr's soon. Hope to get some picture
on the web site soon if I can figure out how to do
it..
Glenn Horne Suffolk, Va.
Model II 582.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
What a way to start ma new year. Congrats!
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Horne
Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
OK guys. First flight for the Fox Model II. today.
My Son flew it and did it ever fly good.
Hope to get the 40 hr's soon. Hope to get some picture
on the web site soon if I can figure out how to do
it..
Glenn Horne Suffolk, Va.
Model II 582.
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| Subject: | Door latch sources? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
Ok Folks, I need a little help.
In my ferver to rebuild -36, I removed and tossed the door latches that were
there. Stupid, cuz my locating a suitable sub is harder than I thought.
I can't get on Sportflight, so I thought I'd poke around here and see what
you guys are doing to keep your doors closed.
Pointers, pics, opinions, are all much appreciated.
Bradley
KF2 N1836
Middle GA
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
Thanks Dee,
My Son said it really fly's good.
Glenn Model II Suffolk, Va./
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First Flight.
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
>
> Way to go Glenn, glad to hear your back in business.
>
> Dee Young
> Model II
>
> Do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Glenn Horne<mailto:glennflys@verizon.net>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 1:30 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight.
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne"
> <glennflys@verizon.net<mailto:glennflys@verizon.net>>
>
> OK guys. First flight for the Fox Model II. today.
> My Son flew it and did it ever fly good.
>
> Hope to get the 40 hr's soon. Hope to get some picture
> on the web site soon if I can figure out how to do
> it..
> Glenn Horne Suffolk, Va.
> Model II 582.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
Glenn,
WOW, what a way to spend new years - Congrats.
DS
St Paul
On Sunday 01 January 2006 2:30 pm, Glenn Horne wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
>
> OK guys. First flight for the Fox Model II. today.
> My Son flew it and did it ever fly good.
>
> Hope to get the 40 hr's soon. Hope to get some picture
> on the web site soon if I can figure out how to do
> it..
> Glenn Horne Suffolk, Va.
> Model II 582.
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
John,
Both of my tanks had a green and white sticker that said:
QA Approved
By: BC
6-1-95
Would you know which one I have?
Thanks, Brett
----- Original Message -----
From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
> June 1995 is when the change was introduced. Prior to that the tanks
> should
> be sloshed..
>
> Have a Safe New Year !!
> John & Debra McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
> Daniels
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
> <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
>
> I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there
> was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in
> about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to
> keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin
> and better built.
>
>
> D& D Syverson wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
>>
>>Graeme,
>>
>>Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the
>>nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks
>>when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be).
>>
>>1) Any idea how old the tanks are?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Brett,
No way to know... the change actually took place prior to June... but there
was no way to pin point the actual date prior to June...
Have a Safe New Year !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brett Walmsley
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
John,
Both of my tanks had a green and white sticker that said:
QA Approved
By: BC
6-1-95
Would you know which one I have?
Thanks, Brett
----- Original Message -----
From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
> June 1995 is when the change was introduced. Prior to that the tanks
> should
> be sloshed..
>
> Have a Safe New Year !!
> John & Debra McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
> Daniels
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
> <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
>
> I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there
> was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in
> about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to
> keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin
> and better built.
>
>
> D& D Syverson wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
>>
>>Graeme,
>>
>>Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the
>>nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks
>>when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be).
>>
>>1) Any idea how old the tanks are?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
That's what I figured.
Thanks anyway.
I coated them just to be safe.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
> Brett,
> No way to know... the change actually took place prior to June...
> but there
> was no way to pin point the actual date prior to June...
>
> Have a Safe New Year !!
> John & Debra McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brett Walmsley
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
>
> John,
> Both of my tanks had a green and white sticker that said:
> QA Approved
> By: BC
> 6-1-95
>
> Would you know which one I have?
> Thanks, Brett
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>>
>> June 1995 is when the change was introduced. Prior to that the tanks
>> should
>> be sloshed..
>>
>> Have a Safe New Year !!
>> John & Debra McBean
>> www.sportplanellc.com
>> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
>> Daniels
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks
>>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
>> <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>>
>>
>> I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there
>> was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in
>> about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to
>> keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin
>> and better built.
>>
>>
>> D& D Syverson wrote:
>>
>>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
>>>
>>>Graeme,
>>>
>>>Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is
>>>the
>>>nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular
>>>tanks
>>>when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be).
>>>
>>>1) Any idea how old the tanks are?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Glenn, sounds good to me. Congratulations both to you and your son.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight.
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
>
> OK guys. First flight for the Fox Model II. today.
> My Son flew it and did it ever fly good.
>
> Hope to get the 40 hr's soon. Hope to get some picture
> on the web site soon if I can figure out how to do
> it..
> Glenn Horne Suffolk, Va.
> Model II 582.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel Flow Meters |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy Fultz" <fultz@trip.net>
Is anybody in the group using or do you know anybody that uses the NAVMAN
F2100 Fuel Flow Meter? I'm trying to decide whether or not to put one in my
panel. It looks to be nearly identical to the MIZER sold by Spruce, but
less than half the price fo the MIZER. Any and all comments appreciated.
Andy F.
AVID Speedwing
STRATUS EA-81
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Meters |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
Andy, I had a navman fuel flow system in my KF model 1 and it worked fine.
The fuel mizer is a navman with additions to prevent leakage etc. They are
infact a converted navman. Thats the info I recieved when I made similar
enquiries to your own, in fact I rang the Australia distributer to confirm
this info.
Cheers
Graeme Toft
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Fultz" <fultz@trip.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel Flow Meters
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy Fultz" <fultz@trip.net>
>
>
> Is anybody in the group using or do you know anybody that uses the NAVMAN
> F2100 Fuel Flow Meter? I'm trying to decide whether or not to put one in
> my
> panel. It looks to be nearly identical to the MIZER sold by Spruce, but
> less than half the price fo the MIZER. Any and all comments appreciated.
>
> Andy F.
> AVID Speedwing
> STRATUS EA-81
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel Flow Meters |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy Fultz" <fultz@trip.net>
Graeme,
Did the distributor say exactly what modifications had been made? To
justify the price difference there must have been some really serious mods
done.
Andy F.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Graeme Toft
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel Flow Meters
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
Andy, I had a navman fuel flow system in my KF model 1 and it worked fine.
The fuel mizer is a navman with additions to prevent leakage etc. They are
infact a converted navman. Thats the info I recieved when I made similar
enquiries to your own, in fact I rang the Australia distributer to confirm
this info.
Cheers
Graeme Toft
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Fultz" <fultz@trip.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel Flow Meters
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy Fultz" <fultz@trip.net>
>
>
> Is anybody in the group using or do you know anybody that uses the NAVMAN
> F2100 Fuel Flow Meter? I'm trying to decide whether or not to put one in
> my
> panel. It looks to be nearly identical to the MIZER sold by Spruce, but
> less than half the price fo the MIZER. Any and all comments appreciated.
>
> Andy F.
> AVID Speedwing
> STRATUS EA-81
>
>
> --
>
>
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