---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/01/06: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:41 AM - Re: Fuel tanks (D& D Syverson) 2. 08:20 AM - Re: Fuel tanks (Alan & Linda Daniels) 3. 10:49 AM - Re: Fuel tanks (Ron Liebmann) 4. 11:42 AM - Re: Happy New Year to the Kitfox List (Fox5flyer) 5. 11:43 AM - Frappr Map Addition (Cudnohufsky's) 6. 11:44 AM - Re: Fuel tanks (Lowell Fitt) 7. 12:31 PM - First Flight. (Glenn Horne) 8. 12:31 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (Graeme Toft) 9. 12:37 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (jdmcbean) 10. 12:37 PM - Re: Mk7 Flaperon Horn Position (jdmcbean) 11. 12:37 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (jdmcbean) 12. 12:38 PM - Re: Happy New Year to the Kitfox List (jdmcbean) 13. 12:41 PM - Re: First Flight. (Dee Young) 14. 12:58 PM - Re: First Flight. (Bradley M Webb) 15. 01:01 PM - Door latch sources? (Bradley M Webb) 16. 01:19 PM - Re: First Flight. (Glenn Horne) 17. 01:56 PM - Re: First Flight. (D& D Syverson) 18. 05:11 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (Brett Walmsley) 19. 05:39 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (jdmcbean) 20. 06:08 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (Brett Walmsley) 21. 08:41 PM - Re: First Flight. (Lowell Fitt) 22. 09:23 PM - Fuel Flow Meters (Andy Fultz) 23. 10:20 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Meters (Graeme Toft) 24. 10:36 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Meters (Andy Fultz) 25. 11:52 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:56 AM PST US From: D& D Syverson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks --> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson Graeme, Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be). 1) Any idea how old the tanks are? 2) What kind of fuel was run in the tanks over their lifetime (100LL, Auto Gas, Corn gas - meaning real gas mixed with ethanol, etc)? 3) Were the tanks coated with a sloshing compound, epoxy paint or anything else on the inside? 4) What part of the tanks were the thin areas located? I just picked up a set of tanks (Not from Skystar) for the construction of my model 7 and they appear to be very well done - the fiberglass is thick and uniform and very rigid (triple baffled). The seams are very solid - not much evidence of bubbles in the resin anywhere. Any additional info on your observations would be useful and appreciated. Thanks, Dave S St Paul, MN On Saturday 31 December 2005 8:06 pm, Graeme Toft wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" > > Hi Guys, for your interest I have stripped the wings and noticed both fuel > tanks have very small crazing in the glass which has been obviously leaking > very slowly over the life of the plane. T > > Graeme Toft ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:42 AM PST US From: Alan & Linda Daniels Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin and better built. D& D Syverson wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson > >Graeme, > >Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the >nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks >when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be). > >1) Any idea how old the tanks are? > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:00 AM PST US From: "Ron Liebmann" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Liebmann" I am wondering when and if my 13 gal fiberglass tank will give way after reading so much over time about the glass being susceptible to breakdown from various fuels. My tank came to me in 1990 from Denney Aircraft with no sloshing at all. The installation instructions said nothing about sloshing them. You could then and now see the glass weave in the tank. I have had no leaks at all. I guess I'll just keep watching for them. Ron N55KF > I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there > was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in > about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to > keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin > and better built. > > > D& D Syverson wrote: > >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson >> >>Graeme, >> >>Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the >>nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks >>when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be). >> >>1) Any idea how old the tanks are? >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:42:01 AM PST US From: "Fox5flyer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Happy New Year to the Kitfox List --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" I echo your toast to the List Don and more importantly I toast right back to you, my friend and cohort. I wish you a happy and productive 2006. And to all of you on the list, my best wishes with many smooth-air days and 20 knot tailwind x/cs. Deke Morisse Kitfox List Co-Administrator and Janitor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Pearsall" Subject: Kitfox-List: Happy New Year to the Kitfox List > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" > > It is the New Year in many parts of the world, but not right now in my > little corner here in Seattle. I want to wish each and every Kitfox List > member a very happy, prosperous and safe 2006. May all your flights be fun, > safe, and have happy endings. > > Here is a toast I always give at weddings, but it is very applicable now: > > "May the happiest year of your past be the worst year of your future." > > Don Pearsall > List co-Administrator > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:42 AM PST US From: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@Chartermi.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Frappr Map Addition --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net> Group, Just a quick note to let you know I posted my project on the frappr pin map, I guess this means I will need to start making progress again. Lloyd, Upper Michigan, Model 5 > DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:44:02 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Ron, I think that is a good plan. Mine started leaking at abut 500 hours and was apparent by the blisters in the paint on the tops of the wings. Of course there was the slight fuel smell, that was always attributed to the various fuel line connections. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Liebmann" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Liebmann" > > I am wondering when and if my 13 gal fiberglass tank will give way after > reading so much over time about the glass being susceptible to breakdown > from various fuels. My tank came to me in 1990 from Denney Aircraft with > no > sloshing at all. The installation instructions said nothing about sloshing > them. You could then and now see the glass weave in the tank. I have had > no > leaks at all. I guess I'll just keep watching for them. > > Ron N55KF > > >> I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there >> was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in >> about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to >> keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin >> and better built. >> >> >> D& D Syverson wrote: >> >>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson >>> >>>Graeme, >>> >>>Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is >>>the >>>nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular >>>tanks >>>when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be). >>> >>>1) Any idea how old the tanks are? >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:30 PM PST US From: "Glenn Horne" Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" OK guys. First flight for the Fox Model II. today. My Son flew it and did it ever fly good. Hope to get the 40 hr's soon. Hope to get some picture on the web site soon if I can figure out how to do it.. Glenn Horne Suffolk, Va. Model II 582. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:32 PM PST US From: "Graeme Toft" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" Dave, the Kit was purchased in 1998 and fuel used has always been Avgas. No sloshing compound is obvious and I would say from there weight none has been applied in this case. It is only the bottom of the tanks that appear to be affected. The colour of the tanks are a bluish green. A friend in the fibre glass boating industry has inspected the tanks and is convinced the defects resulted from poor mould lay up of the glass. I would say one with defects such as this would be bad luck but to have 2 of them may be a concern for a few of us. Cheers Graeme Toft ----- Original Message ----- From: "D& D Syverson" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson > > Graeme, > > Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the > nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks > when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be). > > 1) Any idea how old the tanks are? > > 2) What kind of fuel was run in the tanks over their lifetime (100LL, Auto > Gas, Corn gas - meaning real gas mixed with ethanol, etc)? > > 3) Were the tanks coated with a sloshing compound, epoxy paint or anything > else on the inside? > > 4) What part of the tanks were the thin areas located? > > I just picked up a set of tanks (Not from Skystar) for the construction of > my > model 7 and they appear to be very well done - the fiberglass is thick and > uniform and very rigid (triple baffled). The seams are very solid - not > much > evidence of bubbles in the resin anywhere. > > Any additional info on your observations would be useful and appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Dave S > St Paul, MN > > > On Saturday 31 December 2005 8:06 pm, Graeme Toft wrote: >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" >> >> Hi Guys, for your interest I have stripped the wings and noticed both >> fuel >> tanks have very small crazing in the glass which has been obviously >> leaking >> very slowly over the life of the plane. T >> >> Graeme Toft > > > -- > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:37:08 PM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" June 1995 is when the change was introduced. Prior to that the tanks should be sloshed.. Have a Safe New Year !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan & Linda Daniels Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin and better built. D& D Syverson wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson > >Graeme, > >Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the >nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks >when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be). > >1) Any idea how old the tanks are? > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:37:08 PM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Mk7 Flaperon Horn Position --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" David, You may have run into 2 different drawings in the manual.. I do not have the manuals to confirm this but the Old Style Flaperon was a symmetrical airfoil and therefore the chord line would go through the spar center... However, the Series 7 style flaperon is not symmetrical and therefore the chord line would fall below the spar... I believe the blocks should split at the chord line. Have a Safe New Year !! John McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David Steade Subject: Kitfox-List: Mk7 Flaperon Horn Position --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Steade" Hi All Thanks for the recent advice regarding a spinner . Now I wonder is there anyone who can give me come guidance regarding the flaperon setup. I am building a Mk7 with a manual dating from July 03. Page 69 shows diagram P-1 the "Flaperon Clamping Fixture". This fixture shows the cord line of the airfoil on the split line of the wood blocks and importantly with the semi-symmetrical airfoil places the centre of the aluminium tubular spar above the split line. Now when looking at page 73 figure P-3 I am confused as the airfoil is shown with the cord line placed below the split line and the centre of the aluminium tube now appears to be positioned on the split line. From my knowledge I believe that the dimensions for the position of the horn on the symmetrical section flaperon where the cord line is the same position as the centre line of the aluminium tube is also 5/32" and 1-3/32 " as shown in my manual. From my reasoning figure P-3 must be wrong as the blocks made to figure P-1 must place the cord line on the split line and therefore the centre of the aluminium spar tube must be above the split line ( by about 3/16" as far as I can see ). If this is so then to obtain the same angle between the cord line and the horn for both the symmetrical and the semi-symmetrical flaperons if would appear that the setting heights for the symmetrical and semi-symmetrical flaperons must be different. Any advice would be very welcome. Regards David Steade ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:37:11 PM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" Ron, Keep an eye on them.. some reported not having any issues... Have a Safe New Year !! John McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron Liebmann Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Liebmann" I am wondering when and if my 13 gal fiberglass tank will give way after reading so much over time about the glass being susceptible to breakdown from various fuels. My tank came to me in 1990 from Denney Aircraft with no sloshing at all. The installation instructions said nothing about sloshing them. You could then and now see the glass weave in the tank. I have had no leaks at all. I guess I'll just keep watching for them. Ron N55KF > I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there > was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in > about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to > keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin > and better built. > > > D& D Syverson wrote: > >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson >> >>Graeme, >> >>Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the >>nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks >>when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be). >> >>1) Any idea how old the tanks are? >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:38:14 PM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Happy New Year to the Kitfox List --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" We'll third that one.... Happy New Year !! Have a Safe New Year !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Pearsall Subject: Kitfox-List: Happy New Year to the Kitfox List --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" It is the New Year in many parts of the world, but not right now in my little corner here in Seattle. I want to wish each and every Kitfox List member a very happy, prosperous and safe 2006. May all your flights be fun, safe, and have happy endings. Here is a toast I always give at weddings, but it is very applicable now: "May the happiest year of your past be the worst year of your future." Don Pearsall List co-Administrator ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:41:13 PM PST US From: "Dee Young" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First Flight. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" Way to go Glenn, glad to hear your back in business. Dee Young Model II Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenn Horne To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 1:30 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" > OK guys. First flight for the Fox Model II. today. My Son flew it and did it ever fly good. Hope to get the 40 hr's soon. Hope to get some picture on the web site soon if I can figure out how to do it.. Glenn Horne Suffolk, Va. Model II 582. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:58:40 PM PST US From: "Bradley M Webb" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: First Flight. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" What a way to start ma new year. Congrats! Bradley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Horne Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" OK guys. First flight for the Fox Model II. today. My Son flew it and did it ever fly good. Hope to get the 40 hr's soon. Hope to get some picture on the web site soon if I can figure out how to do it.. Glenn Horne Suffolk, Va. Model II 582. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:01:29 PM PST US From: "Bradley M Webb" Subject: Kitfox-List: Door latch sources? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" Ok Folks, I need a little help. In my ferver to rebuild -36, I removed and tossed the door latches that were there. Stupid, cuz my locating a suitable sub is harder than I thought. I can't get on Sportflight, so I thought I'd poke around here and see what you guys are doing to keep your doors closed. Pointers, pics, opinions, are all much appreciated. Bradley KF2 N1836 Middle GA ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:19:38 PM PST US From: "Glenn Horne" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First Flight. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" Thanks Dee, My Son said it really fly's good. Glenn Model II Suffolk, Va./ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Young" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First Flight. > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" > > Way to go Glenn, glad to hear your back in business. > > Dee Young > Model II > > Do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Glenn Horne > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 1:30 PM > Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight. > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" > > > > OK guys. First flight for the Fox Model II. today. > My Son flew it and did it ever fly good. > > Hope to get the 40 hr's soon. Hope to get some picture > on the web site soon if I can figure out how to do > it.. > Glenn Horne Suffolk, Va. > Model II 582. > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:56:20 PM PST US From: D& D Syverson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First Flight. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson Glenn, WOW, what a way to spend new years - Congrats. DS St Paul On Sunday 01 January 2006 2:30 pm, Glenn Horne wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" > > OK guys. First flight for the Fox Model II. today. > My Son flew it and did it ever fly good. > > Hope to get the 40 hr's soon. Hope to get some picture > on the web site soon if I can figure out how to do > it.. > Glenn Horne Suffolk, Va. > Model II 582. > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:03 PM PST US From: "Brett Walmsley" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" John, Both of my tanks had a green and white sticker that said: QA Approved By: BC 6-1-95 Would you know which one I have? Thanks, Brett ----- Original Message ----- From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" > > June 1995 is when the change was introduced. Prior to that the tanks > should > be sloshed.. > > Have a Safe New Year !! > John & Debra McBean > www.sportplanellc.com > "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan & Linda > Daniels > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels > > > > I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there > was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in > about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to > keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin > and better built. > > > D& D Syverson wrote: > >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson >> >>Graeme, >> >>Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the >>nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks >>when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be). >> >>1) Any idea how old the tanks are? >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:39:21 PM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" Brett, No way to know... the change actually took place prior to June... but there was no way to pin point the actual date prior to June... Have a Safe New Year !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brett Walmsley Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" John, Both of my tanks had a green and white sticker that said: QA Approved By: BC 6-1-95 Would you know which one I have? Thanks, Brett ----- Original Message ----- From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" > > June 1995 is when the change was introduced. Prior to that the tanks > should > be sloshed.. > > Have a Safe New Year !! > John & Debra McBean > www.sportplanellc.com > "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan & Linda > Daniels > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels > > > > I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there > was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in > about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to > keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin > and better built. > > > D& D Syverson wrote: > >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson >> >>Graeme, >> >>Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is the >>nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular tanks >>when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be). >> >>1) Any idea how old the tanks are? >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:08:08 PM PST US From: "Brett Walmsley" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" That's what I figured. Thanks anyway. I coated them just to be safe. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" > > Brett, > No way to know... the change actually took place prior to June... > but there > was no way to pin point the actual date prior to June... > > Have a Safe New Year !! > John & Debra McBean > www.sportplanellc.com > "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brett Walmsley > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" > > John, > Both of my tanks had a green and white sticker that said: > QA Approved > By: BC > 6-1-95 > > Would you know which one I have? > Thanks, Brett > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jdmcbean" > To: > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" >> >> June 1995 is when the change was introduced. Prior to that the tanks >> should >> be sloshed.. >> >> Have a Safe New Year !! >> John & Debra McBean >> www.sportplanellc.com >> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan & Linda >> Daniels >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel tanks >> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels >> >> >> >> I am sure, but John can help with this, if I remember correctly there >> was a change in resin and maybe manufacture of the Kitfox fuel tanks in >> about 1995 or so. The early tanks needed sloshed to keep fuel in and to >> keep from breaking down, the later takes were of a fuel resistant resin >> and better built. >> >> >> D& D Syverson wrote: >> >>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson >>> >>>Graeme, >>> >>>Can you provide some additional information - I am curious if this is >>>the >>>nature of fiberglass, or, if this was entirely due to the particular >>>tanks >>>when they were manufactured (which it sounds like it might be). >>> >>>1) Any idea how old the tanks are? >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:41:40 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First Flight. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Glenn, sounds good to me. Congratulations both to you and your son. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Horne" Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight. > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" > > OK guys. First flight for the Fox Model II. today. > My Son flew it and did it ever fly good. > > Hope to get the 40 hr's soon. Hope to get some picture > on the web site soon if I can figure out how to do > it.. > Glenn Horne Suffolk, Va. > Model II 582. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:23:37 PM PST US From: "Andy Fultz" Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel Flow Meters --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy Fultz" Is anybody in the group using or do you know anybody that uses the NAVMAN F2100 Fuel Flow Meter? I'm trying to decide whether or not to put one in my panel. It looks to be nearly identical to the MIZER sold by Spruce, but less than half the price fo the MIZER. Any and all comments appreciated. Andy F. AVID Speedwing STRATUS EA-81 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 10:20:17 PM PST US From: "Graeme Toft" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel Flow Meters --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" Andy, I had a navman fuel flow system in my KF model 1 and it worked fine. The fuel mizer is a navman with additions to prevent leakage etc. They are infact a converted navman. Thats the info I recieved when I made similar enquiries to your own, in fact I rang the Australia distributer to confirm this info. Cheers Graeme Toft ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Fultz" Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel Flow Meters > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy Fultz" > > > Is anybody in the group using or do you know anybody that uses the NAVMAN > F2100 Fuel Flow Meter? I'm trying to decide whether or not to put one in > my > panel. It looks to be nearly identical to the MIZER sold by Spruce, but > less than half the price fo the MIZER. Any and all comments appreciated. > > Andy F. > AVID Speedwing > STRATUS EA-81 > > > -- > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 10:36:25 PM PST US From: "Andy Fultz" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel Flow Meters --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy Fultz" Graeme, Did the distributor say exactly what modifications had been made? To justify the price difference there must have been some really serious mods done. Andy F. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Graeme Toft Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel Flow Meters --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" Andy, I had a navman fuel flow system in my KF model 1 and it worked fine. The fuel mizer is a navman with additions to prevent leakage etc. They are infact a converted navman. Thats the info I recieved when I made similar enquiries to your own, in fact I rang the Australia distributer to confirm this info. Cheers Graeme Toft ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Fultz" Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel Flow Meters > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy Fultz" > > > Is anybody in the group using or do you know anybody that uses the NAVMAN > F2100 Fuel Flow Meter? I'm trying to decide whether or not to put one in > my > panel. It looks to be nearly identical to the MIZER sold by Spruce, but > less than half the price fo the MIZER. Any and all comments appreciated. > > Andy F. > AVID Speedwing > STRATUS EA-81 > > > -- > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 11:52:09 PM PST US From: dralle@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] DNA: do not archive --> Kitfox-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com Dear Lister, Please read over the Kitfox-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete Kitfox-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Kitfox-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** Kitfox-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Kitfox-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. 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