Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Sun 01/08/06


Total Messages Posted: 23



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     1. 05:18 AM - Re: NSI CAP Control Unit Circuits (Fox5flyer)
     2. 05:37 AM - Model 2 manual (Dill Family)
     3. 07:31 AM - Kitfox model 2 POH (Mike Crutchlow)
     4. 08:28 AM - Re: Kitfox model 2 POH (Dee Young)
     5. 09:19 AM - Re: Model 2 manual (Torgeir Mortensen)
     6. 09:25 AM - Rotax 912 Ignition (Kirk Martenson)
     7. 10:05 AM - AW: Model 2 manual (Werner Keiper)
     8. 10:47 AM - Bummin' on Empty Weight (Tinne maha)
     9. 11:02 AM - AW: Model 2 manual (and other models) (Richard Rabbers)
    10. 11:07 AM - Re: Bummin' on Empty Weight (Don Pearsall)
    11. 11:52 AM - Re: Bummin' on Empty Weight (Clifford Begnaud)
    12. 12:02 PM - Re: AW: Model 2 manual (Torgeir Mortensen)
    13. 12:35 PM -  Mykal Templeman? ? (Andy Fultz)
    14. 01:22 PM - Re: Bummin' on Empty Weight (D& D Syverson)
    15. 01:22 PM - Re: NSI CAP Control Unit Circuits (Colin Durey)
    16. 02:56 PM - Re: Bummin' on Empty Weight (Vic Jacko)
    17. 04:08 PM - Re: Bummin' on Empty Weight (Clifford Begnaud)
    18. 04:54 PM - Mykal Templeman (Trey and Connie Moran)
    19. 05:21 PM - New Builder Kitfox 7 (michael burkhardt)
    20. 05:35 PM - Re: New Builder Kitfox 7 (Ben Baltrusaitis)
    21. 06:13 PM - Re: New Builder Kitfox 7 (D& D Syverson)
    22. 07:08 PM - Re: New Builder Kitfox 7 (Lowell Fitt)
    23. 07:17 PM - Re: Mykal Templeman (Andy Fultz)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:18:52 AM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Re: NSI CAP Control Unit Circuits
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> Colin, my control unit filled with water when my airplane sat out in a heavy thunderstorm. This was before I came up with a good seal and drain trough for the windshield. The only reason I found that it had water in it was because the pitch control became erratic. After removal, a good clean with soap and water, and thoroughly dried, it's worked fine ever since. I doubt there'll be anything wrong with it once it's cleaned up nicely. As for schematics, none that I know of outside of the factory. However, if you find that it isn't working properly you might try Mykal Templeman from Stratus Subaru. I think he might have access to CAP parts. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Durey" <colin@ptclhk.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI CAP Control Unit Circuits > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey" <colin@ptclhk.com> > > Hi Folks, > > I am presently looking over the NSI prop control unit out of Graeme Tofts' > ditched Kitfox. After a thorough cleanup it looks pretty good, especially > considering that if forgot it was out of an aircraft and tried to be a > submarine controller for a few hours. There are no fried tracks and > components, so I am quite hopefull that it can be resurrected. > > Before I launch into the unknown, I thought I would ask if anyone on the > list has a copy of the circuit schematics for this unit, or at least, a > connection diagram. This will make my job a lot easier, otherwise, I'll > just have to do it the hard way and trace everything out first. > > Any help that you can give will be greatly apreciated. > > > Regards > > Colin Durey > Sydney > +61-418-677073 (M) > +61-2-945466162 (F) > >


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    Time: 05:37:52 AM PST US
    From: "Dill Family" <Dillfamily@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Model 2 manual
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dill Family" <Dillfamily@sbcglobal.net> A couple of the recent messages reminded me that I really don't have a Model 2 operating manual. I have a copy of a model 4 manual with plans of tailoring it to model two operations, but I would rather have the original. Can anybody hook me up with a model 2 operating manual? I anticipate re-launch of my refurbished sn/672 in March. Jeff Dill N767JD Model 2


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    Time: 07:31:12 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Crutchlow" <ontario101@cogeco.ca>
    Subject: Kitfox model 2 POH
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mike Crutchlow" <ontario101@cogeco.ca> Can anyone tell me if there was an operating manual for the model 2 Kitfox other than "How To Fly A Kitfox". It seems that it is rather difficult to get any documentation on the earlier models. All I have at the present time is the builders manual which isn't very helpful for flying the machine. Thanks.


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    Time: 08:28:09 AM PST US
    From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox model 2 POH
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> Mike, I also have a model II and am not aware of POH. The "How to Fly a Kitfox" book helped me out some though. Dee Young Model II N345DY Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Crutchlow<mailto:ontario101@cogeco.ca> To: Kitfox List<mailto:Kitfox-list@matronics.com> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox model 2 POH --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mike Crutchlow" <ontario101@cogeco.ca<mailto:ontario101@cogeco.ca>> Can anyone tell me if there was an operating manual for the model 2 Kitfox other than "How To Fly A Kitfox". It seems that it is rather difficult to get any documentation on the earlier models. All I have at the present time is the builders manual which isn't very helpful for flying the machine. Thanks.


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    Time: 09:19:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Model 2 manual
    From: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no> Hi Jeff, Happy New Year! As far as I'll know there is no "operating manual" for the model II, however, there is an "owners manual". In addition there's an "owners update" - Landing "The Tail Dragger - Part 1 (by Gerald L. Pennington)", made by "Deney Aerocraft Company". This is some old stuff(91), but much interesting. Well, I've got a couple of this "Owners Newsletters" -maybe those could be put up for everyone to see?? The best "flying" reference for the Kitfox is Ed Downs; "How to fly a Kitfox" - (no doubt). I'm sure that Ed might know where to get a copy, hey- anyone know the e-mail for Ed???? I've made a pdf of the owners manual for Kitfox II, go here for download: http://kitfox.net/images/Kitfox_II.pdf Cheers Torgeir. On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 08:37:21 -0500, Dill Family <Dillfamily@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dill Family" > <Dillfamily@sbcglobal.net> > > A couple of the recent messages reminded me that I really don't have a > Model 2 operating manual. I have a copy of a model 4 manual with plans > of tailoring it to model two operations, but I would rather have the > original. Can anybody hook me up with a model 2 operating manual? I > anticipate re-launch of my refurbished sn/672 in March. > > Jeff Dill > N767JD Model 2 > > -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/


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    Time: 09:25:04 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Martenson" <kirk@mninter.net>
    Subject: Rotax 912 Ignition
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kirk Martenson" <kirk@mninter.net> I have an ignition problem with my Rotax 912 UL. I saw an old post of a gentleman with a Rotax 912 that had a mag drop out of spec on one side. I can't remember what the fix was. The 2004 post said that the coil was changed and one of the ignition modules. I had heard that the ignition modules either work or they do not. No intermittent operation. Is that true? Or are there some people that have experienced a partially working ignition module (i.e. a significant drop in rpm during a mag check). Thanks, Kirk Martenson Classic IV 912


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    Time: 10:05:57 AM PST US
    From: "Werner Keiper" <Werner@keiper-koerdorf.de>
    Subject: Model 2 manual
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Werner Keiper" <Werner@keiper-koerdorf.de> Hi Torgeir, Do you know if there is also an owners manual for Kitfox III as a PDF ? I would be very interested in it. Cheers Werner -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Torgeir Mortensen Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. Januar 2006 18:27 An: kitfox-list@matronics.com Betreff: Re: Kitfox-List: Model 2 manual --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen --> <torgemor@online.no> Hi Jeff, Happy New Year! As far as I'll know there is no "operating manual" for the model II, however, there is an "owners manual". In addition there's an "owners update" - Landing "The Tail Dragger - Part 1 (by Gerald L. Pennington)", made by "Deney Aerocraft Company". This is some old stuff(91), but much interesting. Well, I've got a couple of this "Owners Newsletters" -maybe those could be put up for everyone to see?? The best "flying" reference for the Kitfox is Ed Downs; "How to fly a Kitfox" - (no doubt). I'm sure that Ed might know where to get a copy, hey- anyone know the e-mail for Ed???? I've made a pdf of the owners manual for Kitfox II, go here for download: http://kitfox.net/images/Kitfox_II.pdf Cheers Torgeir. On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 08:37:21 -0500, Dill Family <Dillfamily@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dill Family" > <Dillfamily@sbcglobal.net> > > A couple of the recent messages reminded me that I really don't have a > Model 2 operating manual. I have a copy of a model 4 manual with plans > of tailoring it to model two operations, but I would rather have the > original. Can anybody hook me up with a model 2 operating manual? I > anticipate re-launch of my refurbished sn/672 in March. > > Jeff Dill > N767JD Model 2 > > -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/


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    Time: 10:47:26 AM PST US
    From: "Tinne maha" <tinnemaha@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Bummin' on Empty Weight
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tinne maha" <tinnemaha@hotmail.com> Hello List, Having calculated/estimated weights & CGs for paint & fuselage fabric/paint, I did a preliminary weight & balance on my Series 5 taildragger w/ Lyc O-235 recently. My thinking was to find the ideal location for the ELT (before covering the fuselage......everything else is done) so as to avoid carrying balast. I'm very disappointed in the results. Having been conscious of the heavy engine for quite a while, I feel like I've gone to great lengths & expense to reduce weight everywhere, especially in the nose. Alternator driven off the vacuum pump pad, belt groove removed from flywheel, shortened prop extension 5/8", one electronic ignition, light weight fuel & oil lines, copper clad aluminum battery cables & numerous smaller measures. I was so much looking forward to coming in close to Cliff Begnaud's/Vic Jackson's 870 lbs empty weight for what I believe to be virtually the same aircraft. My results (w/ELT in the very back): Rt Main: 436 lbs Lt Main: 436 lbs Tail: 42 lbs Total: 914 lbs I realize the airplane will still fly fine, but it will not perform like one that is 50 lbs lighter. I can only take poor & accusing guesses as to where the extra weight came from (heavy spring aluminum landing gear?, factory quick build wings?, powdercoating?, varnish on wood ribs? I've really got no idea!) Any suggestions? I have the medium weight fabric on the wings & tail surfaces with one coat of pink on. Fabric on the fuselage as well as silver & paint everywhere was calculated/estimated & simulated with weights hanging on strings. More importantly, any suggestions on what I can do now to further reduce weight in the nose or add functional weight in the tail? Does anyone know of a 9 or 10 pound tailwheel? God, I hate to add weight at all, especially to an already heavy airplane! I have a strong aversion to carrying around balast just for the sake of balast. I took the measurements with analog bathroom scales & multiplier arms.......As they got my body weight correct, I have no reason to believe the scales are inaccurate. I took the measurements 3 times with small variations in results. Any suggestions on how to improve my situation (or why I got into it) will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Grant


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    Time: 11:02:37 AM PST US
    From: Richard Rabbers <rira1950@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Model 2 manual (and other models)
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Richard Rabbers <rira1950@yahoo.com> Hello all, I would be extremely pleased to obtain a builders manual or any other form of documentation related to the model 1. I'd be happy to assemble, copy, scan, etc. and make available to others. Any news would be welcome. Richard M1 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Werner Keiper" --> Werner@keiper-koerdorf.de >......... an owners manual for Kitfox III as a PDF ?..... >Werner >----------- > Dillfamily@sbcglobal.net >.......... Can anybody hook me up with a model 2 operating manual?...... >Jeff Dill >N767JD Model 2


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    Time: 11:07:09 AM PST US
    From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
    Subject: Bummin' on Empty Weight
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net> Grant, where is the battery located? For the heavy engines, most people put it in the tail area. I would hate to see you add ballast too. On my KF 5 with Subaru I made a battery box and hung it just forward of the rear stabilizer. Don Pearsall -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tinne maha Subject: Kitfox-List: Bummin' on Empty Weight --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tinne maha" <tinnemaha@hotmail.com> Hello List, Having calculated/estimated weights & CGs for paint & fuselage fabric/paint, I did a preliminary weight & balance on my Series 5 taildragger w/ Lyc O-235 recently. My thinking was to find the ideal location for the ELT (before covering the fuselage......everything else is done) so as to avoid carrying balast. I'm very disappointed in the results. Having been conscious of the heavy engine for quite a while, I feel like I've gone to great lengths & expense to reduce weight everywhere, especially in the nose. Alternator driven off the vacuum pump pad, belt groove removed from flywheel, shortened prop extension 5/8", one electronic ignition, light weight fuel & oil lines, copper clad aluminum battery cables & numerous smaller measures. I was so much looking forward to coming in close to Cliff Begnaud's/Vic Jackson's 870 lbs empty weight for what I believe to be virtually the same aircraft. My results (w/ELT in the very back): Rt Main: 436 lbs Lt Main: 436 lbs Tail: 42 lbs Total: 914 lbs I realize the airplane will still fly fine, but it will not perform like one that is 50 lbs lighter. I can only take poor & accusing guesses as to where the extra weight came from (heavy spring aluminum landing gear?, factory quick build wings?, powdercoating?, varnish on wood ribs? I've really got no idea!) Any suggestions? I have the medium weight fabric on the wings & tail surfaces with one coat of pink on. Fabric on the fuselage as well as silver & paint everywhere was calculated/estimated & simulated with weights hanging on strings. More importantly, any suggestions on what I can do now to further reduce weight in the nose or add functional weight in the tail? Does anyone know of a 9 or 10 pound tailwheel? God, I hate to add weight at all, especially to an already heavy airplane! I have a strong aversion to carrying around balast just for the sake of balast. I took the measurements with analog bathroom scales & multiplier arms.......As they got my body weight correct, I have no reason to believe the scales are inaccurate. I took the measurements 3 times with small variations in results. Any suggestions on how to improve my situation (or why I got into it) will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Grant


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    Time: 11:52:41 AM PST US
    From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
    Subject: Re: Bummin' on Empty Weight
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> One of the biggest weight savers on my plane was the use of ASF finish. But there were lots of little items that all add up. Lightweight alternator off of a kubota tractor, custom aluminum pulley on alternator, tiny aluminum skull cap spinner, lightweight starter, 2 electronic ignitions (no mags), no mechanical fuel pump, minimalist panel, lightweight seat cushions, absence of fancy interior, lightweight Odyssey battery in the tail, lightweight ELT, fuselage is painted instead of powdercoated. There are probably numerous other things that Vic did that I don't know about. Don't sweat it, at 914 lbs you still have the "second lightest" kitfox with an 0-235 ;-) Cliff Kitfox 5, 870 lbs Grant, where is the battery located? For the heavy engines, most people put it in the tail area. I would hate to see you add ballast too. On my KF 5 with Subaru I made a battery box and hung it just forward of the rear stabilizer. Don Pearsall -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tinne maha Subject: Kitfox-List: Bummin' on Empty Weight --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tinne maha" <tinnemaha@hotmail.com> Hello List, Having calculated/estimated weights & CGs for paint & fuselage fabric/paint, I did a preliminary weight & balance on my Series 5 taildragger w/ Lyc O-235 recently. My thinking was to find the ideal location for the ELT (before covering the fuselage......everything else is done) so as to avoid carrying balast. I'm very disappointed in the results. Having been conscious of the heavy engine for quite a while, I feel like I've gone to great lengths & expense to reduce weight everywhere, especially in the nose. Alternator driven off the vacuum pump pad, belt groove removed from flywheel, shortened prop extension 5/8", one electronic ignition, light weight fuel & oil lines, copper clad aluminum battery cables & numerous smaller measures. I was so much looking forward to coming in close to Cliff Begnaud's/Vic Jackson's 870 lbs empty weight for what I believe to be virtually the same aircraft. My results (w/ELT in the very back): Rt Main: 436 lbs Lt Main: 436 lbs Tail: 42 lbs Total: 914 lbs I realize the airplane will still fly fine, but it will not perform like one that is 50 lbs lighter. I can only take poor & accusing guesses as to where the extra weight came from (heavy spring aluminum landing gear?, factory quick build wings?, powdercoating?, varnish on wood ribs? I've really got no idea!) Any suggestions? I have the medium weight fabric on the wings & tail surfaces with one coat of pink on. Fabric on the fuselage as well as silver & paint everywhere was calculated/estimated & simulated with weights hanging on strings. More importantly, any suggestions on what I can do now to further reduce weight in the nose or add functional weight in the tail? Does anyone know of a 9 or 10 pound tailwheel? God, I hate to add weight at all, especially to an already heavy airplane! I have a strong aversion to carrying around balast just for the sake of balast. I took the measurements with analog bathroom scales & multiplier arms.......As they got my body weight correct, I have no reason to believe the scales are inaccurate. I took the measurements 3 times with small variations in results. Any suggestions on how to improve my situation (or why I got into it) will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Grant


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    Time: 12:02:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Model 2 manual
    From: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no> Hi Werner, Well-, I do not have a model 3 manual, however, if we compare the different Kitfox models- the difference between model II and III is nothing much to talk about - if we think about "typical" flight characteristic. The model III can weight a 100 lbs (total take off weight) more than the model II. There "might" be more difference between each builders setup with same model than between the factory specification for those two models. Also, -all the SB (service bulletins) and SL (service letters) that I've seen is valid for both, -model II and III. I've got a document about the "real" difference between a model II and model III. Hmm. The CG range is the same, the speed limitations (factory specs) is equal. Maybe Michel have this manual. Hi Michel, your reply is needed..... Cheers. Torgeir. On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 19:03:14 +0100, Werner Keiper <Werner@keiper-koerdorf.de> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Werner Keiper" > <Werner@keiper-koerdorf.de> > > Hi Torgeir, > > Do you know if there is also an owners manual for Kitfox III as a PDF ? > I would be very interested in it. > > Cheers > > Werner > > -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- > Von: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Torgeir > Mortensen > Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. Januar 2006 18:27 > An: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Betreff: Re: Kitfox-List: Model 2 manual > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen > --> <torgemor@online.no> > > Hi Jeff, > > Happy New Year! > > As far as I'll know there is no "operating manual" for the model II, > however, there is an "owners manual". > > In addition there's an "owners update" - Landing "The Tail Dragger - Part > 1 (by Gerald L. Pennington)", made by "Deney Aerocraft Company". This is > some old stuff(91), but much interesting. Well, I've got a couple of this > "Owners Newsletters" -maybe those could be put up for everyone to see?? > > The best "flying" reference for the Kitfox is Ed Downs; "How to fly a > Kitfox" - (no doubt). > > I'm sure that Ed might know where to get a copy, hey- anyone know the > e-mail > for Ed???? > > I've made a pdf of the owners manual for Kitfox II, go here for download: > > http://kitfox.net/images/Kitfox_II.pdf > > Cheers > > > Torgeir. > > > On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 08:37:21 -0500, Dill Family <Dillfamily@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dill Family" >> <Dillfamily@sbcglobal.net> >> >> A couple of the recent messages reminded me that I really don't have a >> Model 2 operating manual. I have a copy of a model 4 manual with plans >> of tailoring it to model two operations, but I would rather have the >> original. Can anybody hook me up with a model 2 operating manual? I >> anticipate re-launch of my refurbished sn/672 in March. >> >> Jeff Dill >> N767JD Model 2 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ > > -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/


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    Time: 12:35:34 PM PST US
    From: "Andy Fultz" <fultz@trip.net>
    Subject: Mykal Templeman? ?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy Fultz" <fultz@trip.net> I have been trying to e-mail Mykal Templeman, owner of STRATUS Engines, and my e-mail to him keeps getting rejected. I have his address as mjt@camano.net. Any help appreciated. Thanks. Andy F.


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    Time: 01:22:19 PM PST US
    From: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Bummin' on Empty Weight
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net> Grant, I couldn't tell for sure if your greater concerns were weight OR balance. If it is balance you are concerned with - I know of other folks with a heavy-engined Kitfox who have put the battery in the tail just below and ahead of the horizontal stabalizer. This adds little to the weight (just the addtional wire to the back), but changes the CG a lot if that is what you need. Finding a location for other things which can be moved towards the rear of the airplane will help move the CG to the rear also. I am not so sure what the weight of a battery way out in the tail would do to spin characteristics - in general a person wants the weight concentrated near the CG as much as possible for better spin characteristics. If your main concern is weight, you might consider that the extra 44 pounds from 870 to 914 isn't all that much - just pick a skinny passenger (one who is 44 pounds lighter). But the real thing to consider is this - compared to the same engine (O-235) in a cessna 152 - you're light years ahead in the performance department even with an additional 44 pounds - You will have fantastic short field and climb performance with your Kitfox anyway. Good luck with your project. Sincerely, Dave M-7 in process On Sunday 08 January 2006 12:46 pm, Tinne maha wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tinne maha" <tinnemaha@hotmail.com> > > Hello List, > > Having calculated/estimated weights & CGs for paint & fuselage > fabric/paint, I did a preliminary weight & balance on my Series 5 > taildragger w/ Lyc O-235 recently. My thinking was to find the ideal > location for the ELT (before covering the fuselage......everything else is > done) so as to avoid carrying balast. I'm very disappointed in the > results. >


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    Time: 01:22:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: NSI CAP Control Unit Circuits
    From: "Colin Durey" <colin@ptclhk.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey" <colin@ptclhk.com> Thanks Deke, I've pretty sure it will be OK, however, this unit was submerged in salt water for a while which is pretty agressive and, it went in with power still applied. The only real concern I have is the micro-controller. If it is dead, while I can certainly get another (its a standard component), I would need to then get my hands on the firmware. Thanks for the contact name. If I need to, I'll give him a call. Regards Colin Durey Sydney +61-418-677073 (M) +61-2-945466162 (F) > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > Colin, my control unit filled with water when my airplane sat out in a > heavy > thunderstorm. This was before I came up with a good seal and drain trough > for the windshield. The only reason I found that it had water in it was > because the pitch control became erratic. After removal, a good clean > with > soap and water, and thoroughly dried, it's worked fine ever since. > I doubt there'll be anything wrong with it once it's cleaned up nicely. > As for schematics, none that I know of outside of the factory. However, > if > you find that it isn't working properly you might try Mykal Templeman from > Stratus Subaru. I think he might have access to CAP parts. > Deke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Durey" <colin@ptclhk.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI CAP Control Unit Circuits > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey" <colin@ptclhk.com> >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> I am presently looking over the NSI prop control unit out of Graeme >> Tofts' >> ditched Kitfox. After a thorough cleanup it looks pretty good, >> especially >> considering that if forgot it was out of an aircraft and tried to be a >> submarine controller for a few hours. There are no fried tracks and >> components, so I am quite hopefull that it can be resurrected. >> >> Before I launch into the unknown, I thought I would ask if anyone on the >> list has a copy of the circuit schematics for this unit, or at least, a >> connection diagram. This will make my job a lot easier, otherwise, I'll >> just have to do it the hard way and trace everything out first. >> >> Any help that you can give will be greatly apreciated. >> >> >> Regards >> >> Colin Durey >> Sydney >> +61-418-677073 (M) >> +61-2-945466162 (F) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 02:56:15 PM PST US
    From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Bummin' on Empty Weight
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net> Hello, Cliff, I saw your name on Vic's e-mail, so I am answering your message to let you know that Vic passed away quite unexpectedly in his sleep on Thursday, January 5. Will you please take his name off the Kitfox-List so I can manage his e-mail with less time spent on the general messages. This will be a great help to me. If you want to e-mail to me reb66@earthlink.net or call 830-372-0444. Your name is the only one I recognize out of numerous messages; so hopefully you can handle this in a way which would cause no problem to yourself. Thanks, Ruth > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:08:35 PM PST US
    From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
    Subject: Re: Bummin' on Empty Weight
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> Ruth, This is a terrible shock. My sincere condolences! Vic will be missed by many of us in the Kitfox community. You should know that Vic has built a very special airplane and it has been an inspiration for others to attempt to duplicate what he accomplished. Despite great effort, his work at building a light weight high performance kitfox remains unmatched. Vic will be remembered as a giving individual and as a pioneer in our kitfox community. Vic was well liked and respected by his kitfox friends. Although I only met him face to face on two occasions, we communicated enough that I thought of him as a dear friend. My heart hangs heavy with yours. Ruth, everyone here also appreciates his lifelong service to our country in the US Army. For those that don't know, Vic was a retired Major from the Army. If you would like to share any other info about Vic with us, we would be grateful to know more about Vic. The list administrator will see this message and remove Vic's email address from the Kitfox list. Best Wishes to you and your family, Cliff Begnaud Hello, Cliff, I saw your name on Vic's e-mail, so I am answering your message to let you know that Vic passed away quite unexpectedly in his sleep on Thursday, January 5. Will you please take his name off the Kitfox-List so I can manage his e-mail with less time spent on the general messages. This will be a great help to me. If you want to e-mail to me reb66@earthlink.net or call 830-372-0444. Your name is the only one I recognize out of numerous messages; so hopefully you can handle this in a way which would cause no problem to yourself. Thanks, Ruth > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:54:05 PM PST US
    From: "Trey and Connie Moran" <ffmoran@centurytel.net>
    Subject: Mykal Templeman
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Trey and Connie Moran" <ffmoran@centurytel.net> Andy, I have been in contact with Mykal several times in the last three weeks using that address, mjt@camano.net, so I know it works. You can also reach him at 5145 SE 3rd St., Corvallis OR 97333. His new phone number is 541-754-4114. Trey Moran


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    Time: 05:21:05 PM PST US
    From: michael burkhardt <mjbavid@yahoo.com>
    Subject: New Builder Kitfox 7
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michael burkhardt <mjbavid@yahoo.com> Hello, I am new to the group, will be starting a Kitfox 7 very soon. Any Kitfox builders in the central California area? And, what engine does the Kitfox builders recommend for the Kitfox 7? Thanks, Mike do not archive Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com


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    Time: 05:35:24 PM PST US
    From: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net>
    Subject: Re: New Builder Kitfox 7
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net> Mike, Welcome to the Kitfox world! Check out our pin map: http://www.frappr.com/kitfox and add yourself and pictures. Ben (on the East Coast) ----- Original Message ----- From: michael burkhardt To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 8:20 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: New Builder Kitfox 7 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michael burkhardt <mjbavid@yahoo.com> Hello, I am new to the group, will be starting a Kitfox 7 very soon. Any Kitfox builders in the central California area? And, what engine does the Kitfox builders recommend for the Kitfox 7? Thanks, Mike do not archive


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    Time: 06:13:26 PM PST US
    From: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: New Builder Kitfox 7
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net> Mike, I don't live in California, but I am building a Model 7. As for the engine, I think everyone has to make up their minds for themselves what will serve them best. For the record, I chose the Rotax 912ULS, primarily because of the weight, but also because of the fuel economy and fuel options (it works on 92 octane auto gas as well as 100LL aviation fuel). I also found that a 912 leaves a lot less of a noise footprint on the neighborhood than some other engines - just an extra benefit if you fly around noise sensitive areas. Welcome to the club Dave S, St Paul, Minnesota On Sunday 08 January 2006 7:20 pm, michael burkhardt wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michael burkhardt <mjbavid@yahoo.com> > > Hello, I am new to the group, will be starting a > Kitfox 7 very soon. Any Kitfox builders in the central > California area? And, what engine does the Kitfox > builders recommend for the Kitfox 7? Thanks, Mike > do not archive >


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    Time: 07:08:26 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: New Builder Kitfox 7
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> Hi Mike, Where in Central Calif are you? I am in Cameron Park, East of Sacramento. I have been flying a Model IV since 1998. I think there are builders in the area, one in Eldorado Hills comes to mind. I think he is building a Series 5. There are a number in the area that can be a resource for you. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael burkhardt" <mjbavid@yahoo.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: New Builder Kitfox 7 > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michael burkhardt <mjbavid@yahoo.com> > > Hello, I am new to the group, will be starting a > Kitfox 7 very soon. Any Kitfox builders in the central > California area? And, what engine does the Kitfox > builders recommend for the Kitfox 7? Thanks, Mike > do not archive > > > Just $16.99/mo. or less. > dsl.yahoo.com > > >


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    Time: 07:17:13 PM PST US
    From: "Andy Fultz" <fultz@trip.net>
    Subject: Mykal Templeman
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy Fultz" <fultz@trip.net> Thanks Trey. His spam filter must be kicking me out. I just tried again and got rejected. Looks like I'll have to try to call him. Andy F. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Trey and Connie Moran Subject: Kitfox-List: Mykal Templeman --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Trey and Connie Moran" <ffmoran@centurytel.net> Andy, I have been in contact with Mykal several times in the last three weeks using that address, mjt@camano.net, so I know it works. You can also reach him at 5145 SE 3rd St., Corvallis OR 97333. His new phone number is 541-754-4114. Trey Moran




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