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Fri 01/13/06


Total Messages Posted: 19



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     1. 04:49 AM - Header tank drain plug "shielding tube and flange" (Dill Family)
     2. 05:25 AM - Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS (kitfoxjunky)
     3. 05:25 AM - Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS (kitfoxjunky)
     4. 05:44 AM - Re: Header tank drain plug "shielding tube and flange" (Lynn Matteson)
     5. 07:18 AM - Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS (wingnut)
     6. 07:36 AM - Re: Header tank drain plug "shielding tube and flange" (Lowell Fitt)
     7. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS (jdmcbean)
     8. 09:35 AM - Re: Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
     9. 10:33 AM - Re: Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS (jdmcbean)
    10. 12:03 PM - Wing parts (Graeme Toft)
    11. 03:40 PM - Jacking Question? (RAY Gignac)
    12. 03:46 PM - Radio Question? (RAY Gignac)
    13. 04:52 PM - Re: Radio Question? (Ted Palamarek)
    14. 05:28 PM - Re: Jacking Question? (Lowell Fitt)
    15. 06:08 PM - Re: Jacking Question? (wingsdown)
    16. 06:36 PM - weight of ribs in speedster rear surfaces (Mark.Summers@lwbref.com)
    17. 07:18 PM - Re: weight of ribs in speedster rear surfaces (Ron Liebmann)
    18. 07:50 PM - Re: Radio Question? (RAY Gignac)
    19. 11:22 PM - Pre-sewn wing envelopes (Graeme Toft)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:49:54 AM PST US
    From: "Dill Family" <Dillfamily@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Header tank drain plug "shielding tube and flange"
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dill Family" <Dillfamily@sbcglobal.net> I am referencing the Skystar series 5 construction manual (final assembly, chapter X, page 15) to attempt to adapt this header tank to my model 2. My current question regards the drain plug "shielding tube and flange", which I do not possess. This looks like something I could rig, but the figure does not answer the following questions: What is the approximate diameter of the tube? What would be a comparable substitute for the tube? I would think PVC would be overkill, something with thinner walls would make most sense. What could I make a "flange" out of to mate up to the tube? What attaches the tube to the tank? Does it just float, attached only to the fabric below? Is it clamped around the (slightly tapered) plastic drain plug receptacle at the bottom of the tank? Thanks for your help. Jeff Dill N767JD Model 2


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    Time: 05:25:18 AM PST US
    From: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
    Subject: Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com> I have the same configuration as you do. Just put an IVO Medium on the plane last summer. I turned the adjustment 2.5 turns towards fine pitch, and that gave me 5800 RPM at best climb. I was used to flying on floats, and when the new prop went on I had re-configured for wheels. After a bit I found I preferred to have a less ballistic departure so I did not scare the crap out of my passengers, so I increased the pitch somewhat in favour of a better cruise. I am now about 1/2 run to fine from neutral. I now have something like 5500 at best climb, and I get a cruise of 100 mph. Yes..you can operate at 5400 rpm continuous. In fact, I have been told that the 912 series was designed to turn, and running it at rpms like 4800 rpm was not good for it. I typically run it at 5200 in cruise. There is a good reference card you can get from a dealer in Quebec Canada. He has a card that shows all the operating ranges. He bases the power settings on RPM and manifold pressure vs RPM alone. I have a MP guage in my plane, and find it quite helpful. I am looking at getting the in flight adjustable option soon. Best of both worlds. Are you running an IVO Medium or the Ultalight version. If the latter..then the turns I quoted will be different. Gary Walsh KF IV Anphib 912S C-GOOT www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox do not archive Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com 01/11/2006 11:09 PM Please respond to kitfox-list To: kitfox-list@matronics.com cc: Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> At 01:23 PM 1/11/2006, you wrote: >Hello. I'm a new owner of a Model IV 1200 with a 912UL and an IVO prop. >The checklist that came with the airplane instructs me to set the prop >pitch for takeoff at 5200RPM. According to the published specs for the >912UL, peak power is made at 5800 for two minutes then 5400 continuous. >Shouldn't I set the prop pitch for peak power? In the true tradition of the Internet I'll offer an opinion even though I don't know what I'm talking about. If I remember correctly, the IVO is an electrically adjustable, but not constant speed, prop. I'm guessing, then, that 5200 is the static RPM that will get you 5800, or thereabouts, at Vy. Regarding your question about how to set power: a very useful equation someone once offered was that the aircraft velocity was proportional to the cube root of the power. Thus, if you know your maximum velocity at maximum power, you can find 80% power by adjusting power until you achieve 93% of that maximum velocity value. (0.93 is the cube root of 0.8.) Guy Buchanan K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.


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    Time: 05:25:51 AM PST US
    From: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
    Subject: Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com> Sorry...in my last email I mean to provide the links for the Rotax 912 series quick in cockpit reference card for operating parameters. Here is where you can find the source for these. http://www.rotaxservice.com/rotax_tips/rotax_age.htm http://www.rotaxservice.com/rotax_tips/rotax_vibration.htm Gary Walsh KF IV Anphib 912S C-GOOT www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox do not archive


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    Time: 05:44:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Header tank drain plug "shielding tube and flange"
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> I made mine (for my IV with later model tank) out of a "floor flange" of PVC. It was, as you say, overkill, so I spent a little time on the lathe, thinning, shortening and generally making a mess of the lathe, then attached the flange with poly-tak on the inside of the fabric. There is also a metal flange that I saw later in the Spruce catalog that might work...it was in the SCAT hose area, as I recall. Lynn On Friday, January 13, 2006, at 07:48 AM, Dill Family wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dill Family" > <Dillfamily@sbcglobal.net> > > I am referencing the Skystar series 5 construction manual (final > assembly, chapter X, page 15) to attempt to adapt this header tank to > my model 2. My current question regards the drain plug "shielding tube > and flange", which I do not possess. This looks like something I could > rig, but the figure does not answer the following questions: > > > What is the approximate diameter of the tube? > > What would be a comparable substitute for the tube? I would think PVC > would be overkill, something with thinner walls would make most sense. > > What could I make a "flange" out of to mate up to the tube? > > What attaches the tube to the tank? Does it just float, attached only > to the fabric below? Is it clamped around the (slightly tapered) > plastic drain plug receptacle at the bottom of the tank? > > > Thanks for your help. > > > Jeff Dill > > N767JD Model 2 > >


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    Time: 07:18:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS
    From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> I don't really know which IVO prop I have (medium vs ultralight). Is there an easy way to tell? It sounds like the adjustment on your prop is mechanical. Mine is electric. Push up on the toggle switch to decrease pitch push down to increase. I don't really like the set up because there's no feedback for the current position of the prop except for the RPM. Adjusting for proper pitch is tedious affair where you tap, tap, tap on the switch and watch the rpm move. Theres no way to know if the pitch motor has hit the stop except that the RPM has stopped moving. I imagine that I will become more comfortable with the prop as I gain experience with the setup but I would have much preferred something like the GSC, GTA prop that is adjusted with a vernier cable. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3632#3632


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    Time: 07:36:09 AM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Header tank drain plug "shielding tube and flange"
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> Lynn, I got the hose and flange in my kit, but in those days the manual was not updated with the instructions, so the parts were not used. The flange is Part # 10350-5 From Aircraft Spruce. The tubing that came was a short length of 1-1/4" radiator hose about 3 or 4 inches long to fit between the tank and flange. As I recall the hose fit around the boss molded onto the bottom of the tank that accommodated the drain fitting and the flange was glued to the fabric with polytack.. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 5:47 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Header tank drain plug "shielding tube and flange" > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> > > I made mine (for my IV with later model tank) out of a "floor flange" > of PVC. It was, as you say, overkill, so I spent a little time on the > lathe, thinning, shortening and generally making a mess of the lathe, > then attached the flange with poly-tak on the inside of the fabric. > There is also a metal flange that I saw later in the Spruce catalog > that might work...it was in the SCAT hose area, as I recall. > > Lynn > On Friday, January 13, 2006, at 07:48 AM, Dill Family wrote: > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dill Family" >> <Dillfamily@sbcglobal.net> >> >> I am referencing the Skystar series 5 construction manual (final >> assembly, chapter X, page 15) to attempt to adapt this header tank to >> my model 2. My current question regards the drain plug "shielding tube >> and flange", which I do not possess. This looks like something I could >> rig, but the figure does not answer the following questions: >> >> >> >> What is the approximate diameter of the tube? >> >> What would be a comparable substitute for the tube? I would think PVC >> would be overkill, something with thinner walls would make most sense. >> >> What could I make a "flange" out of to mate up to the tube? >> >> What attaches the tube to the tank? Does it just float, attached only >> to the fabric below? Is it clamped around the (slightly tapered) >> plastic drain plug receptacle at the bottom of the tank? >> >> >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> >> >> Jeff Dill >> >> N767JD Model 2 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 09:21:53 AM PST US
    From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net> Not too tedious.. While doing your run-up try setting the RPM at 4000 and the MP for 22" for your mag check... That will give you a pretty close setting for max takeoff RPM... Like anything new, it does take some time to adapt.. With well over 300 hours behind the Ultralight IVO now it has become very quick and easy to adjust. The easiest way to tell is measure the chord of the blade.. the ultralight is approx 3" The Medium is a little wider... Have a Safe New Year !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of wingnut Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:17 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> I don't really know which IVO prop I have (medium vs ultralight). Is there an easy way to tell? It sounds like the adjustment on your prop is mechanical. Mine is electric. Push up on the toggle switch to decrease pitch push down to increase. I don't really like the set up because there's no feedback for the current position of the prop except for the RPM. Adjusting for proper pitch is tedious affair where you tap, tap, tap on the switch and watch the rpm move. Theres no way to know if the pitch motor has hit the stop except that the RPM has stopped moving. I imagine that I will become more comfortable with the prop as I gain experience with the setup but I would have much preferred something like the GSC, GTA prop that is adjusted with a vernier cable. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3632#3632


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    Time: 09:35:51 AM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net While on the subject of IVO props, a friend with a Kitfox V/Subaru combination. The prop came to him as part of used package of parts. It is a very heavy prop to my way of thinking. Probably 5" chord. Is there an IVO Magnum? In any case, the prop seems so heavy that in order to approach recommended rpms he has to reduce the pitch to the point that full power will only net him about 90 mph. Seems to me he needs to prop down, but how far? John Kerr -------------- Original message -------------- From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" > > Not too tedious.. While doing your run-up try setting the RPM at 4000 and > the MP for 22" for your mag check... That will give you a pretty close > setting for max takeoff RPM... Like anything new, it does take some time to > adapt.. With well over 300 hours behind the Ultralight IVO now it has become > very quick and easy to adjust. > > The easiest way to tell is measure the chord of the blade.. the ultralight > is approx 3" The Medium is a little wider... > > Have a Safe New Year !! > John & Debra McBean > www.sportplanellc.com > "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of wingnut > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:17 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" > > I don't really know which IVO prop I have (medium vs ultralight). Is there > an easy way to tell? > > It sounds like the adjustment on your prop is mechanical. Mine is electric. > Push up on the toggle switch to decrease pitch push down to increase. > > I don't really like the set up because there's no feedback for the current > position of the prop except for the RPM. Adjusting for proper pitch is > tedious affair where you tap, tap, tap on the switch and watch the rpm move. > Theres no way to know if the pitch motor has hit the stop except that the > RPM has stopped moving. > > I imagine that I will become more comfortable with the prop as I gain > experience with the setup but I would have much preferred something like the > GSC, GTA prop that is adjusted with a vernier cable. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3632#3632 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While on the subject of IVO props, a friend with a Kitfox V/Subaru combination. The prop came to him as part of used package of parts. It is a very heavy prop to my way of thinking. Probably 5" chord. Is there an IVO Magnum? In any case, the prop seems so heavy that in order to approach recommended rpms he has to reduce the pitch to the point that full power will only net him about 90 mph. Seems to me he needs to prop down, but how far? John Kerr -------------- Original message -------------- From: "jdmcbean" jdmcbean@cableone.net -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <JDMCBEAN@CABLEONE.NET> Not too tedious.. While doing your run-up try setting the RPM at 4000 and the MP for 22" for your mag check... That will give you a pretty close setting for max takeoff RPM... Like anything new, it does take some time to adapt.. With well over 300 hours behind the Ultralight IVO now it has become very quick and easy to adjust. The easiest way to tell is measure the chord of the blade.. the ultralight is approx 3" The Medium is a little wider... Have a Safe New Year !! John Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Ori ginal Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of wingnut Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:17 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <WINGNUT@SPAMARREST.COM> I don't really know which IVO prop I have (medium vs ultralight). Is there an easy way to tell? It sounds like the adjustment on your prop is mechanical. Mine is electric. Push up on the toggle switch to decrease pitch push down to increase. I don't really like the set up because there's no feedback for the current position of the prop except for the RPM. Adjusting for proper pitch is tedious affair where you tap, tap, tap on the switch and watch the rpm move. Theres no way to know if the pitch motor has hit the stop except that the RPM has stopped moving. I imagine that I will become more comfortable with the prop as I gain experience with the setup but I would have much preferred something like the GSC, GTA prop that is adjusted with a vernier cable. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3632#3632


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    Time: 10:33:14 AM PST US
    From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net> John, There is a Medium and a Magnum... The medium has about a 4" to 4.5" chord depending on where you measure... Which Soob is it ? If over 100hp I don't think I would go below the Medium... Have a Safe New Year !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kerrjohna@comcast.net Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net While on the subject of IVO props, a friend with a Kitfox V/Subaru combination. The prop came to him as part of used package of parts. It is a very heavy prop to my way of thinking. Probably 5" chord. Is there an IVO Magnum? In any case, the prop seems so heavy that in order to approach recommended rpms he has to reduce the pitch to the point that full power will only net him about 90 mph. Seems to me he needs to prop down, but how far? John Kerr -------------- Original message -------------- From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" > > Not too tedious.. While doing your run-up try setting the RPM at 4000 and > the MP for 22" for your mag check... That will give you a pretty close > setting for max takeoff RPM... Like anything new, it does take some time to > adapt.. With well over 300 hours behind the Ultralight IVO now it has become > very quick and easy to adjust. > > The easiest way to tell is measure the chord of the blade.. the ultralight > is approx 3" The Medium is a little wider... > > Have a Safe New Year !! > John & Debra McBean > www.sportplanellc.com > "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of wingnut > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:17 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" > > I don't really know which IVO prop I have (medium vs ultralight). Is there > an easy way to tell? > > It sounds like the adjustment on your prop is mechanical. Mine is electric. > Push up on the toggle switch to decrease pitch push down to increase. > > I don't really like the set up because there's no feedback for the current > position of the prop except for the RPM. Adjusting for proper pitch is > tedious affair where you tap, tap, tap on the switch and watch the rpm move. > Theres no way to know if the pitch motor has hit the stop except that the > RPM has stopped moving. > > I imagine that I will become more comfortable with the prop as I gain > experience with the setup but I would have much preferred something like the > GSC, GTA prop that is adjusted with a vernier cable. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3632#3632 > > While on the subject of IVO props, a friend with a Kitfox V/Subaru combination. The prop came to him as part of used package of parts. It is a very heavy prop to my way of thinking. Probably 5" chord. Is there an IVO Magnum? In any case, the prop seems so heavy that in order to approach recommended rpms he has to reduce the pitch to the point that full power will only net him about 90 mph. Seems to me he needs to prop down, but how far? John Kerr -------------- Original message -------------- From: "jdmcbean" jdmcbean@cableone.net -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <JDMCBEAN@CABLEONE.NET> Not too tedious.. While doing your run-up try setting the RPM at 4000 and the MP for 22" for your mag check... That will give you a pretty close setting for max takeoff RPM... Like anything new, it does take some time to adapt.. With well over 300 hours behind the Ultralight IVO now it has become very quick and easy to adjust. The easiest way to tell is measure the chord of the blade.. the ultralight is approx 3" The Medium is a little wider... Have a Safe New Year !! John Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Ori ginal Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of wingnut Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:17 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <WINGNUT@SPAMARREST.COM> I don't really know which IVO prop I have (medium vs ultralight). Is there an easy way to tell? It sounds like the adjustment on your prop is mechanical. Mine is electric. Push up on the toggle switch to decrease pitch push down to increase. I don't really like the set up because there's no feedback for the current position of the prop except for the RPM. Adjusting for proper pitch is tedious affair where you tap, tap, tap on the switch and watch the rpm move. Theres no way to know if the pitch motor has hit the stop except that the RPM has stopped moving. I imagine that I will become more comfortable with the prop as I gain experience with the setup but I would have much preferred something like the GSC, GTA prop that is adjusted with a vernier cable. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3632#3632


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    Time: 12:03:11 PM PST US
    From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
    Subject: Wing parts
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> Hi Guys, Im ready to start rebuilding my wings and am chasing ribs for a model 1V. Does anyone have spares they would like to part with. If you do could you please contact me off list to sort out costs and frieght to Australia. Regards Graeme Toft


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    Time: 03:40:24 PM PST US
    From: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com>
    Subject: Jacking Question?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com> Can anyone explain the best method for jacking up the kitfox, and the suggested jack points? I have in the past lifted the wing were the strut joins the spar and having a friend place a saw horse under the spring! is there a better method? Thanks Ray


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    Time: 03:46:16 PM PST US
    From: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com>
    Subject: Radio Question?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com> Had a small problem with my #1 radio today and need help! this is what happened! powered up the plane, turned on avionics switch then number one radio! I was able to transmit no problem but was unable to receive! I switched to my #2 radio no problem. There was a lot of moisture in the air and don't know if maybe the contacts were fouled. any help? Ray


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    Time: 04:52:27 PM PST US
    From: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
    Subject: Radio Question?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net> Ray The first thing you want to try is to find out whether the receiver is dead or not. Adjust the squelch so that you should hear ambient noise if no noise is heard then you possibly have a receiver problem. Don't know what system you have so it is difficult to suggest how to check out the switching between system #1 and #2. Provide some more info on what type of equipment you have and someone will be able to help Ted Palamarek Edmonton Ab Subject: Kitfox-List: Radio Question? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com> Had a small problem with my #1 radio today and need help! this is what happened! powered up the plane, turned on avionics switch then number one radio! I was able to transmit no problem but was unable to receive! I switched to my #2 radio no problem. There was a lot of moisture in the air and don't know if maybe the contacts were fouled. any help? Ray


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    Time: 05:28:37 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Jacking Question?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> Ray, Not knowing your intended purpose in jacking, I offer the following. When I need to service a wheel, I use a transmission jack - just a long ram on a dolly that I put casters on- and jack as you suggest. I put a piece of tubing on the end of the ram and pad it. It fits over the tiedown ring for stability. When I went from the bungee gear to the spring gear, I lifted the tail and had my wife put a specially constructed saw horse under the lift strut carry through and hung enough weight on the tail to hold the tail wheel on the ground - sort of like a teeter totter with the heavy guy on one end. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Jacking Question? > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com> > > Can anyone explain the best method for jacking up the kitfox, and the > suggested jack points? I have in the past lifted the wing were the strut > joins the spar and having a friend place a saw horse under the spring! is > there a better method? > > Thanks > > Ray > > >


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    Time: 06:08:24 PM PST US
    From: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
    Subject: Jacking Question?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net> I would highly recommend fabricating the lift strut attachment made by Cessna. If you have tube gear then that wont work. A small car jack will also work just under the strut end. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RAY Gignac Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 3:40 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Jacking Question? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com> Can anyone explain the best method for jacking up the kitfox, and the suggested jack points? I have in the past lifted the wing were the strut joins the spar and having a friend place a saw horse under the spring! is there a better method? Thanks Ray


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    Time: 06:36:45 PM PST US
    Subject: weight of ribs in speedster rear surfaces
    From: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com I want to splice the rear clip from a speedster to a KF2 for repairs and to get the taller vertical and rudder but too heavy does anyone know how much weight I can shed by removing the ribs.


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    Time: 07:18:34 PM PST US
    From: "Ron Liebmann" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: weight of ribs in speedster rear surfaces
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Liebmann" <rliebmann@comcast.net> Hi Mark, What is the rear "clip"? I built a Model 2 which I still fly. Which ribs are you referring to when you ask about removing them? I can answer any questions regarding your Model 2 and will be glad to do so. You can e-mail me direct if you like at rliebmann@comcast.net Chicago area ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mark.Summers@lwbref.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:35 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: weight of ribs in speedster rear surfaces > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com > > I want to splice the rear clip from a speedster to a KF2 for repairs and > to > get the taller vertical and rudder but too heavy does anyone know how much > weight I can shed by removing the ribs. > > >


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    Time: 07:50:07 PM PST US
    From: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Radio Question?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com> Thanks for your reply, I have two small terra radios that fit side by side! they have the digital numbers. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted Palamarek<mailto:temco@telusplanet.net> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 7:51 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Radio Question? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net<mailto:temco@telusplanet.net>> Ray The first thing you want to try is to find out whether the receiver is dead or not. Adjust the squelch so that you should hear ambient noise if no noise is heard then you possibly have a receiver problem. Don't know what system you have so it is difficult to suggest how to check out the switching between system #1 and #2. Provide some more info on what type of equipment you have and someone will be able to help Ted Palamarek Edmonton Ab Subject: Kitfox-List: Radio Question? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com<mailto:KITFOXPILOT@msn.com>> Had a small problem with my #1 radio today and need help! this is what happened! powered up the plane, turned on avionics switch then number one radio! I was able to transmit no problem but was unable to receive! I switched to my #2 radio no problem. There was a lot of moisture in the air and don't know if maybe the contacts were fouled. any help? Ray


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    Time: 11:22:37 PM PST US
    From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
    Subject: Pre-sewn wing envelopes
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> Hi Guys, has anyone had experience with the ceconite 102 pre-sewn envelopes and if so what are your thoughts. Just thinking they might be a simple way to re-cover the wings and they appear to be reasonably priced. Cheers Graeme Toft




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