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1. 03:07 AM - Re: weight of ribs in speedster rear surfaces (Mark.Summers@lwbref.com)
2. 06:03 AM - Re: weight of ribs in speedster rear surfaces (flier)
3. 07:25 AM - online sectionals (Ben Baltrusaitis)
4. 07:40 AM - Re: weight of ribs in speedster rear surfaces (Mark.Summers@lwbref.com)
5. 08:20 AM - Looking for -4 NSI Cowling (Howard Firm)
6. 09:17 AM - Re: Jacking Question? (AMuller589@AOL.COM)
7. 09:17 AM - Re: weight/ cog in speedster rear surfaces (ron schick)
8. 09:28 AM - Was: Bummin' on Empty Weight (Kerry Skyring)
9. 09:41 AM - Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS (Michael Gibbs)
10. 09:50 AM - Re: Jacking Question? (RAY Gignac)
11. 10:28 AM - Re: weight/ cog in speedster rear surfaces (Mark.Summers@lwbref.com)
12. 10:44 AM - Re: Flying Kitfoxes Was: Bummin' on Empty Weight (Lowell Fitt)
13. 10:57 AM - Re: weight/ cog in speedster rear surfaces (ron schick)
14. 11:02 AM - Vienna Fox Update (Kerry Skyring)
15. 11:03 AM - Re: Flying Kitfoxes Was: Bummin' on Empty Weight (jdmcbean)
16. 11:18 AM - Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS (Randy Daughenbaugh)
17. 11:52 AM - Re: Flying Kitfoxes (Michel Verheughe)
18. 01:14 PM - Re: Flying Kitfoxes (ron schick)
19. 02:24 PM - Re: Hey Lloyd, (Cudnohufsky's)
20. 02:38 PM - Re: Series 7 anyone have with 912UL 80hp? (Cudnohufsky's)
21. 02:46 PM - Re: Flying Kitfoxes (D& D Syverson)
22. 03:06 PM - Re: Jacking Question? (David Savener)
23. 04:44 PM - Static electricity (Brett Walmsley)
24. 05:02 PM - Re: Static electricity (Kevin Cozik)
25. 05:20 PM - Re: Jacking Question? (AMuller589@aol.com)
26. 06:10 PM - New feature for the Kitfox Pin Map (Ben Baltrusaitis)
27. 08:13 PM - Re: New feature for the Kitfox Pin Map (ron schick)
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| Subject: | Re: weight of ribs in speedster rear surfaces |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
I bought the aft 5 ft of a speedster to attempt to splice onto my KF 2 I
have tube damage from where the vertical attaches on the top cross tube. I
guess you would call it the most aft section of the fuselage. I don't have
to splice on the entire 5 ft but will have to start forward of where the
vertical starts. The speedster has all the surfaces and they are all ribbed
and fabriced with electric elevator trim built in. The horizontal and
elevator weighed together are 5 lbs heavier than my old ones, so I know the
vertical and rudder will out weigh the old by more than that. I would like
to have the speedster tail [10" taller vertical and rudder] either way it
goes I have to replace the most aft appr. 4 ft of my KF2 fuselage. Thanks
Mark
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| Subject: | weight of ribs in speedster rear surfaces |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
Hey Mark,
If I had to take a guess, considering the difference in configuration
between the lighter gross Model 2 and the Speedster I'd suspect you're gonna
definitely end up in a tail heavy situation no matter what you do. The
splicing alone is going to add a couple of pounds back there then as you've
noted the larger structure is going to be a problem. I know with my Model
IV 1200 that has all the speedster tail stuff on it I'm at the back side of
the CG envelope to begin with -- and the IV fuselage was adapted to handle
it to begin with.
The ribs aren't going to save much. The additional steel in that tail
including the cutout for the trim tab, the trim servo & mounting, the gap
closure stuff, etc are all going to put you pretty considerably tail heavy.
Another issue to be careful of is the change in the resonant frequency of
the fuselage and tail. IF you do get it all together and balanced, during
test flight, particularly at high throttle settings, keep an eye on the tail
to ensure you don't end up with sympathetic vibrations back there. Splicing
those longerons is going to make the tail stiffer and vibration would surely
be a problem at those splice welds.
Only my opinion.
Good luck,
Ted
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 5:06 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: weight of ribs in speedster rear surfaces
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
I bought the aft 5 ft of a speedster to attempt to splice onto my KF 2 I
have tube damage from where the vertical attaches on the top cross tube. I
guess you would call it the most aft section of the fuselage. I don't have
to splice on the entire 5 ft but will have to start forward of where the
vertical starts. The speedster has all the surfaces and they are all ribbed
and fabriced with electric elevator trim built in. The horizontal and
elevator weighed together are 5 lbs heavier than my old ones, so I know the
vertical and rudder will out weigh the old by more than that. I would like
to have the speedster tail [10" taller vertical and rudder] either way it
goes I have to replace the most aft appr. 4 ft of my KF2 fuselage. Thanks
Mark
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| Subject: | online sectionals |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net>
I was sent this link to online sectionals:
http://skyvector.com/
I hope it is also new and helpful to some of my fellow Kitfoxers.
Ben
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| Subject: | weight of ribs in speedster rear surfaces |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
I appreciate your insight, what motor do you have on your kf 4 I have the
582. I believe my old horizontal and elevator will mate up to the speedster
tail. I'm figuring 1lb for splices max, and thinking if I strip down the
vert and rudder put my old hor. and elevator back on maybe 4lbs increased
weight not sure if thats a acceptable weight. The old weight and balance
[empty] was right main=255lb
left main= 245lb
tail = 39lb x158.25" =6171.75div by 539= 11.45" aft CG
Thanks Mark
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| Subject: | Looking for -4 NSI Cowling |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
Anyone have a set for sale? Model 4 to fit the NSI engine.
218-749-1150
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
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| Subject: | Re: Jacking Question? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com
on our kitfox V we clamp two boards (one on each side) on the landing gear
strut and use them to jack it up with a bottle or screw jack. That gives
access to one brake and tire.
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| Subject: | Re: weight/ cog in speedster rear surfaces |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Mark I have not finished or done the math on 541KF 92 speedster, but my
experiance with my Avid was that I had a hard time getting my cg far enough
back. 16.5" I think is max rear for the Avid. What is the max rear cg for
your plane? This may be a blessing if you upgrade your motor, battery,
radios. Ron NB ORE
>From: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: weight of ribs in speedster rear surfaces
>Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 05:06:07 -0600
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
>
>
>I bought the aft 5 ft of a speedster to attempt to splice onto my KF 2 I
>have tube damage from where the vertical attaches on the top cross tube. I
>guess you would call it the most aft section of the fuselage. I don't have
>to splice on the entire 5 ft but will have to start forward of where the
>vertical starts. The speedster has all the surfaces and they are all ribbed
>and fabriced with electric elevator trim built in. The horizontal and
>elevator weighed together are 5 lbs heavier than my old ones, so I know the
>vertical and rudder will out weigh the old by more than that. I would like
>to have the speedster tail [10" taller vertical and rudder] either way it
>goes I have to replace the most aft appr. 4 ft of my KF2 fuselage. Thanks
>Mark
>
>
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| Subject: | Was: Bummin' on Empty Weight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
Lowell wrote
"For the past several years, I have been involved with a group that has had
>an annual back country trip to Idaho sometime each summer. All of the
>Kitfoxes are Model IVs except for one year when we had a Model III with a
>Rotax 912 join us."
Lowell that was a great post, taking us for a moment into the real world of
Kitfox flying, or any flying that involves friends, family and going places.
And the possibilities that the Kitfox offers.
Kerry
Kitfox builders helper.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
>It sounds like the adjustment on your prop is mechanical. Mine is
>electric. Push up on the toggle switch to decrease pitch push down
>to increase.
A lot of the advice you've been receiving has assumed that you had a
ground-adjustable prop. With a ground-adjustable you have to
compromise between best takeoff & climb performance against best
cruise performance.
If you have an in-flight adjustable prop you don't have to
compromise! Push the switch to move towards flat pitch (higher RPM)
during your runup. When you takeoff push the throttle in and use the
switch to get full takeoff power (maybe a little shy of 5800 RPM).
As you accelerate the RPM will rise--if it gets to or past 5800 then
move the the switch the other way to pull it back down to 5800 or a
little less. Within 5 minutes use the switch again to bring the RPM
down to 5500. If you maintain full throttle the entire time you'll
get your best climb performance.
Mike G.
N728KF
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| Subject: | Re: Jacking Question? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com>
Thanks very much, I did not think of that method! will give it a shot
Ray Gignac
----- Original Message -----
From: AMuller589@aol.com<mailto:AMuller589@aol.com>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Jacking Question?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com<mailto:AMuller589@aol.com>
on our kitfox V we clamp two boards (one on each side) on the landing gear
strut and use them to jack it up with a bottle or screw jack. That gives
access to one brake and tire.
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| Subject: | Re: weight/ cog in speedster rear surfaces |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
I don't know all there is to know about these kitfoxes but some of the
weight and balance paperwork that came with the plane when I bought it
saysextreme aft CG should be less than 14.28" {28%} of mean aerodynamic
chord. Somewhere I think I have read that the avid is a little shorter the
kitfox. I also read in one of the service letters posted on skystar site
that the kf 4 I believe was changed to 16" extreme aft CG. It shows MAC to
be 51" on the 2 and to divide aft CG by 51" to get %MAC. I am not sure if I
can add the extra weight to he tailwheel and multiply by arm or if the
plane w&b has to be done with max gross. I hope you are right because I
think I will try to splice it together and ten do W&B then start shedding
ribs, lights, servos,etc Thanks Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Kitfoxes Was: Bummin' on Empty Weight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Thanks Kerry,
I too am a builder's helper, but on a Lancair IV. I spend some tine lurking
on the Lancair list (LML). It is an interesting place. As often is the
case in some lists there are a few "Gurus" that tend to imtimidate.
Recently there was a post that suggested that like the Mooney, RV, ETC
pilots it might be nice to have an annual fly-in to get together and share
stuff and socialize.
I couldnt believe the responses he got. "Yes if it is East of a line
between such and so." "Yes if it is in the South East." And the
clincher, "Yes if it is within 150 nautical miles" of his home base. This
from one of the biggest mouths on the list and from a guy who flys an
airplane capable of speeds close to 300mph. I guess more than 30 minutes
airtime on a cross country is too much.
I love my little airplane. I've spend nine yours in a day getting where I
want to go and low enough to see where I went. I guess I'll never
understand the pilots that profess a love of flying, but want to spend as
little time in their airplanes as they can.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:27 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Was: Bummin' on Empty Weight
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring"
> <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
>
> Lowell wrote
>
> "For the past several years, I have been involved with a group that has
> had
>>an annual back country trip to Idaho sometime each summer. All of the
>>Kitfoxes are Model IVs except for one year when we had a Model III with a
>>Rotax 912 join us."
>
> Lowell that was a great post, taking us for a moment into the real world
> of
> Kitfox flying, or any flying that involves friends, family and going
> places.
> And the possibilities that the Kitfox offers.
> Kerry
> Kitfox builders helper.
>
>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: weight/ cog in speedster rear surfaces |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Mark I have not had enough coffee to do math today or have my manual nearby.
There are probably many solutions for moving other weights farther forward
on your plane if needed. I would finish the graft enough to weigh it then
check the math. I am installing a VW with redrive on mine and have mounted
the battery box waaayyyy back in prep for the cog struggle, but will dial it
in later.
Ron NB Ore
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>From: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: weight/ cog in speedster rear surfaces
>Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:25:33 -0600
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
>
>
>I don't know all there is to know about these kitfoxes but some of the
>weight and balance paperwork that came with the plane when I bought it
>saysextreme aft CG should be less than 14.28" {28%} of mean aerodynamic
>chord. Somewhere I think I have read that the avid is a little shorter the
>kitfox. I also read in one of the service letters posted on skystar site
>that the kf 4 I believe was changed to 16" extreme aft CG. It shows MAC to
>be 51" on the 2 and to divide aft CG by 51" to get %MAC. I am not sure if I
>can add the extra weight to he tailwheel and multiply by arm or if the
>plane w&b has to be done with max gross. I hope you are right because I
>think I will try to splice it together and ten do W&B then start shedding
>ribs, lights, servos,etc Thanks Mark
>
>
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| Subject: | Vienna Fox Update |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
I have just been enjoying catching up on the list after a very busy work
period. It can't be said too often just what a great resource is this list.
As an occasional seeker of information I just wanted to
let the list know that OE-UMJ is ready to fly, and in fact has had a permit
to fly for a few weeks now. Why isn't it in the air? Well the airfield is
covered in a foot of snow and the temperatures in Central Europe refuse to
budge above 0. But come the thaw and test pilot being available on a good
day it will fly. We have a few bureaucratic requirments which may not apply
elsewhere. The pilot has to have completed a "test pilots course." Not too
troublesome but only held once a year so plan ahead. Test pilot must wear a
military helmet and parachute so a bit more wiring required to connect the
headphones to the military helmet. And so on. But we, (the owner and me the
helper and future pilot) have taxied it and it behaves well on the ground. I
have about 400 hours on tail draggers so the temptation to go flying was
enormous. The lack of visibility over the nose was also a bit of a surprise
- worse than my Auster. But I doubt the plane will hold any major
surprises. So soon, come the thaw, I hope to post some news and photos.
Thanks again to all the listers.
Kerry
Kitfox builders helper
S5 Outback 912ULS
>
>
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| Subject: | Flying Kitfoxes Was: Bummin' on Empty Weight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Lowell,
. I guess I'll never understand the pilots that profess a love of flying,
but want to spend as little time in their airplanes as they can.
One of my favorites... If you LOVE flying then why are you in such a hurry
to get there ?
Have a Safe New Year !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flying Kitfoxes Was: Bummin' on Empty Weight
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Thanks Kerry,
I too am a builder's helper, but on a Lancair IV. I spend some tine lurking
on the Lancair list (LML). It is an interesting place. As often is the
case in some lists there are a few "Gurus" that tend to imtimidate.
Recently there was a post that suggested that like the Mooney, RV, ETC
pilots it might be nice to have an annual fly-in to get together and share
stuff and socialize.
I couldnt believe the responses he got. "Yes if it is East of a line
between such and so." "Yes if it is in the South East." And the
clincher, "Yes if it is within 150 nautical miles" of his home base. This
from one of the biggest mouths on the list and from a guy who flys an
airplane capable of speeds close to 300mph. I guess more than 30 minutes
airtime on a cross country is too much.
I love my little airplane. I've spend nine yours in a day getting where I
want to go and low enough to see where I went. I guess I'll never
understand the pilots that profess a love of flying, but want to spend as
little time in their airplanes as they can.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:27 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Was: Bummin' on Empty Weight
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring"
> <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
>
> Lowell wrote
>
> "For the past several years, I have been involved with a group that has
> had
>>an annual back country trip to Idaho sometime each summer. All of the
>>Kitfoxes are Model IVs except for one year when we had a Model III with a
>>Rotax 912 join us."
>
> Lowell that was a great post, taking us for a moment into the real world
> of
> Kitfox flying, or any flying that involves friends, family and going
> places.
> And the possibilities that the Kitfox offers.
> Kerry
> Kitfox builders helper.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Gary,
Is the reference card on the website? I couldn't find them.
It does sound like something of value.
Thanks,
Randy - Series 5/7 912S
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxjunky
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Best RPM for takeoff with IVO prop and 912ULS
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
<kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Sorry...in my last email I mean to provide the links for the Rotax 912
series quick in cockpit reference card for operating parameters. Here is
where you can find the source for these.
http://www.rotaxservice.com/rotax_tips/rotax_age.htm
http://www.rotaxservice.com/rotax_tips/rotax_vibration.htm
Gary Walsh
KF IV Anphib 912S
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Kitfoxes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Jan 14, 2006, at 8:02 PM, jdmcbean wrote:
> One of my favorites... If you LOVE flying then why are you in such a
> hurry
> to get there ?
Exactly! Good to see we agree on this one. Anyway, after sailing all my
life at 5 to 6 knots, flying a Kitfox at 70 knots is like ... the speed
of light! :-)
Cheers,
Michel (still waiting for a break in the weather, haven't been flying
for 4 weeks and feeling very sick! :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Kitfoxes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Amen Lowell it is the journey not the destination. That's why they charge
by the hour for rent, tours etc. Unfortunately my job has prevented my
flying a cessna that I own beyond the borders of my own state. I hope to
extend my range to washington this summer for the eaa fly in at Arlington.
By the way if you come up the coast I can assist with gas, transportation,
etc. at (OTH) North Bend or Lakeside airport in Oregon. Ron NB Ore
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>From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flying Kitfoxes Was: Bummin' on Empty Weight
>Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:44:19 -0800
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>I love my little airplane. I've spend nine yours in a day getting where I
>want to go and low enough to see where I went. I guess I'll never
>understand the pilots that profess a love of flying, but want to spend as
>little time in their airplanes as they can.
>
>Lowell
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net>
Randy,
Don't know, what is on page 41 of Sport Pilot? I am currently getting Sport
Aviation. Do not know of any articles that I would be in.
Lloyd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:58 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Hey Lloyd,
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
> <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
>
> Is that you on page 41 of the January EAA Sport Pilot?
>
> I figure it has to be. Your handle is almost a long as mine. Can't be
> many
> of you out there.
>
> Randy
>
>
> .
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cudnohufsky's
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 2:48 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Elevator Trim systems cables
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net>
>
> Great resource, you got me thinking and looking around, another resource
> is
> boat supply houses for boats throttle and shift cables. They currently
> have
> some nice cables on E-Bay with lengths up to 40'
> Lloyd
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan & Linda Daniels" <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Series 7 anyone have with 912UL 80hp? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net>
Mike,
I am rebuilding a Model 5 that has a 912UL 80hp on it. It had a little over
250 hours before the previous owner ground looped it.
Lloyd
----- Original Message -----
From: "michael burkhardt" <mjbavid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:01 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Series 7 anyone have with 912UL 80hp?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michael burkhardt <mjbavid@yahoo.com>
>
> Does anyone have a series 5,6, or 7 with a 912UL 80
> hp? Regards, Mike
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Kitfoxes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: D& D Syverson <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
Michel, John & everyone else,
This has got to be one of my favorites. Can't tell you how many times I have
heard talk from some folks about going faster, getting there faster, its not
fast enough yet, if only a couple more knots, etc, etc, etc. If getting into
the sky to play is what we do - why hurry to get back on the ground and get
it over with?!?!.
It's not the destination, It's the journey...
I have no scientific proof, But I am pretty sure that time spent aloft does
not count as time against our lifespan.
Dave S
St Paul
On Saturday 14 January 2006 1:52 pm, Michel Verheughe wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> On Jan 14, 2006, at 8:02 PM, jdmcbean wrote:
> > One of my favorites... If you LOVE flying then why are you in such a
> > hurry
> > to get there ?
>
> Exactly! Good to see we agree on this one. Anyway, after sailing all my
> life at 5 to 6 knots, flying a Kitfox at 70 knots is like ... the speed
> of light! :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michel (still waiting for a break in the weather, haven't been flying
> for 4 weeks and feeling very sick! :-)
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jacking Question? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Savener" <david_savener@msn.com>
Is that a Grove gear or Tube and Fabric?
----- Original Message -----
From: AMuller589@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Jacking Question?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com
on our kitfox V we clamp two boards (one on each side) on the landing gear
strut and use them to jack it up with a bottle or screw jack. That gives
access to one brake and tire.
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| Subject: | Static electricity |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
There has been some discussion in the past regarding some of the dangers of static
electricity and refueling. Well, I have a story to share. Some of you know
me and know I have been working on this model IV for two years now. Seems like
I started it yesterday. It has been the most rewarding project I have ever been
involved with. I am finished covering and I am in the painting stage now.
I must confess it is much easier than I thought it would be. Just like the poly-fiber
book says, "poly-tone is dead easy". Well, the tail feathers are silver
the fuse is white and today I started painting on the wings. I had one wing
on the rotating fixture in the booth (garage) and was wiping it down with C-2210
to prep for the first spray coat of poly-brush. I could "feel" the static electricity
popping as I wiped the wing as I had felt it numerous times before
in the painting process when all of a sudden, "woof", the rag ignited and I had
a nice fire on my hands. The wing was burning and so was the rag. Luckily, I
blew the fire on the wing out almost instantly (no damage other than some soot
and pride), but the rag was saturated with C-2210 and as I threw it to the floor
it flared up pretty good. I kicked it to the door, got the door open and
stomped it out, but, WOW what a scare. This is my third incident in my life with
static electricity. Y'all be careful out there.
Any input on how to prevent this would be greatly appreciated. I am not done painting
yet, but I am a little nervous about wiping down with C-2210. I was using
painters rags from Home Depot (t-shirt type material).
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| Subject: | Re: Static electricity |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kevin Cozik" <Kcozik@cablespeed.com>
Hi Brent, I have seen this first hand. I'm in the body shop business and
have heard of this several times. The paint manufacturer we use at our shop
(Akzo Nobel) sells a product called anti-stat prep solvent. It is used in
the shop for paint prep on misc. plastic and rubber parts which are prone to
static build-up. Let me know if you need any help finding it.
Kevin
S6 in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:44 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Static electricity
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
>
> There has been some discussion in the past regarding some of the dangers
> of static electricity and refueling. Well, I have a story to share. Some
> of you know me and know I have been working on this model IV for two years
> now. Seems like I started it yesterday. It has been the most rewarding
> project I have ever been involved with. I am finished covering and I am in
> the painting stage now. I must confess it is much easier than I thought it
> would be. Just like the poly-fiber book says, "poly-tone is dead easy".
> Well, the tail feathers are silver the fuse is white and today I started
> painting on the wings. I had one wing on the rotating fixture in the booth
> (garage) and was wiping it down with C-2210 to prep for the first spray
> coat of poly-brush. I could "feel" the static electricity popping as I
> wiped the wing as I had felt it numerous times before in the painting
> process when all of a sudden, "woof", the rag ignited and I had a nice
> fire on my hands. The wing was burning and !
> so was the rag. Luckily, I blew the fire on the wing out almost instantly
> (no damage other than some soot and pride), but the rag was saturated with
> C-2210 and as I threw it to the floor it flared up pretty good. I kicked
> it to the door, got the door open and stomped it out, but, WOW what a
> scare. This is my third incident in my life with static electricity. Y'all
> be careful out there.
> Any input on how to prevent this would be greatly appreciated. I am not
> done painting yet, but I am a little nervous about wiping down with
> C-2210. I was using painters rags from Home Depot (t-shirt type material).
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jacking Question? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com
We clamped the two boards on each side (top and bottom of the Grove gear
strut but should work on any of them, even tubes.
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| Subject: | New feature for the Kitfox Pin Map |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net>
The Frappr team just added new colors to use on the pins of the maps. Please go
to the Kitfox Map and see how I applied this to the site. I used the colors to
identify the Model of Kitfox we each fly. There aren't enough colors for all
seven models so I combined the first two on a color and last two on a color.
Please go to the Map
http://www.frappr.com/kitfox
(Note the legend under the Map. Scroll down the page to make your choice).
Please send me your comments. You can just reply to me using my email address here.
I am the Kitfox Map administrator, but there is a delay in getting the email
through the Frappr site.
I also had the idea of using different colors to represent different engines. Tell
me what you think and if the majority wants the engine designation represented,
I will switch it.
I hope you like it!
Ben
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| Subject: | New feature for the Kitfox Pin Map |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Great Ben I was just thinking of using LEMON yellow for an accent stripe on
my VW powered KF IV.
Ron NB Or
do not archive
>From: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: New feature for the Kitfox Pin Map
>Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 21:09:49 -0500
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis" <ben@gmpexpress.net>
>
>The Frappr team just added new colors to use on the pins of the maps.
>Please go to the Kitfox Map and see how I applied this to the site. I used
>the colors to identify the Model of Kitfox we each fly. I also had the idea
>of using different colors to represent different engines. Tell me what you
>think and if the majority wants the engine designation represented, I will
>switch it.
>
>I hope you like it!
>Ben
>
>
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