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1. 04:46 AM - Bungee cord (Mark.Summers@lwbref.com)
2. 04:51 AM - Re: Static RPM (Fox5flyer)
3. 05:17 AM - Re: Anyone have Series 5,6,or7 with 0-235 or 0-200? (Clifford Begnaud)
4. 05:38 AM - Re: Static RPM (tc9008@aol.com)
5. 05:42 AM - Re: Static RPM (Glenn Horne)
6. 05:47 AM - Re: Bungee cord (Glenn Horne)
7. 06:04 AM - weight and balance (Mark.Summers@lwbref.com)
8. 06:44 AM - Re: Bungee cord (Mark.Summers@lwbref.com)
9. 07:19 AM - Re: Anyone have Series 5,6,or7 with 0-235 or 0-200? (Rueb, Duane)
10. 08:07 AM - side windows-Classic IV (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
11. 08:12 AM - Re: Bungee cord measurements (Algate)
12. 08:25 AM - Kitfox III with 912 (Algate)
13. 09:33 AM - Re: weight and balance (Randy Daughenbaugh)
14. 10:31 AM - Static RPM (Andrew Matthaey)
15. 11:03 AM - FAA needs our comments Re: LSA rule change by 1/24! (Paul Seehafer)
16. 11:27 AM - Re: side windows-Classic IV (tc9008@aol.com)
17. 02:23 PM - Re: Bungee cord measurements (Mark.Summers@lwbref.com)
18. 02:23 PM - Re: weight and balance (Mark.Summers@lwbref.com)
19. 02:35 PM - 0-200 (Zimmermans)
20. 03:32 PM - Re: 0-200 (Fox5flyer)
21. 03:54 PM - Re: Kitfox-94VC 12/24 Crash (David Estapa)
22. 05:27 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox-94VC 12/24 Crash (Fox5flyer)
23. 06:21 PM - Franklin Engine firewall forward Kitfox 5,6,or 7? (michael burkhardt)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
Does anyone have any suggestions of how long to make bungee's for a KF 2
the cord I purchased from Spruce is 3/8" the old worn out cord on my plane
was only wrapped 4 times and was worn out {stretched}. also any suggestions
as to how large to make the safety cable loop as to not let the bungee's
bottom out against it, if this makes sense. Thanks Mark
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Sound like you have it about right, but be prepared to change it as the
weather changes. Just remember that with higher static rpm your takeoff
will be awesome, but your cruise speed and fuel consumption will suffer.
It's all a trade off.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:35 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Static RPM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey"
<spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
>
> Hello List,
>
> I have the 3-Blade GSC Wood Prop coupled to a C-Box (3.47:1) and 582. GSC
> states that static RPM should be about 6200...the previous owner had
static
> RPM way up at about 6500. I'm awfully tired of fine-tuning this thing -
> whats the best static RPM in your opinions? BTW, right now I'm lucky to
push
> 6200 in climb-out.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Andrew
> KF3
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone have Series 5,6,or7 with 0-235 or 0-200? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
model 5, 0-235, 870 lbs, kicks butt.
Cliff
Does anyone have a series 5,6,or7 with a 0-235 or
0-200? Would like to hear how the performance is?
Regards, Mike
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: tc9008@aol.com
I have a 582 with a GSC prop My static is 6250 and I don't exceed 6400 on climb
out. I figure the rpm will increase with warmer weather.
Travis
---Original Message-----
From: Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Sent: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:51:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Static RPM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Sound like you have it about right, but be prepared to change it as the
weather changes. Just remember that with higher static rpm your takeoff
will be awesome, but your cruise speed and fuel consumption will suffer.
It's all a trade off.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:35 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Static RPM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey"
<spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
>
> Hello List,
>
> I have the 3-Blade GSC Wood Prop coupled to a C-Box (3.47:1) and 582. GSC
> states that static RPM should be about 6200...the previous owner had
static
> RPM way up at about 6500. I'm awfully tired of fine-tuning this thing -
> whats the best static RPM in your opinions? BTW, right now I'm lucky to
push
> 6200 in climb-out.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Andrew
> KF3
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
I have the same engine and gear box, and turn 6200 static.
Glenn Horne Model II 582
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:24 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Static RPM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey"
> <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
>
> Hello List,
>
> I have the 3-Blade GSC Wood Prop coupled to a C-Box (3.47:1) and 582. GSC
> states that static RPM should be about 6200...the previous owner had
> static
> RPM way up at about 6500. I'm awfully tired of fine-tuning this thing -
> whats the best static RPM in your opinions? BTW, right now I'm lucky to
> push
> 6200 in climb-out.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Andrew
> KF3
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
My Model II has 6 turns around the gear. My safety cables I
made 3" in diameter.
Glenn Horne Model II 582
----- Original Message -----
From: <Mark.Summers@lwbref.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:44 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Bungee cord
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of how long to make bungee's for a KF 2
> the cord I purchased from Spruce is 3/8" the old worn out cord on my plane
> was only wrapped 4 times and was worn out {stretched}. also any
> suggestions
> as to how large to make the safety cable loop as to not let the bungee's
> bottom out against it, if this makes sense. Thanks Mark
>
>
>
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| Subject: | weight and balance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
I have another question does anyone have page 1 and 2 of the of the
assembly weight and balance paperwork I have 3 and 4 which starts with step
2. I assume the instructions for leveling the aircraft for empty weights.
any help is appreciated Mark
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
Thanks for the info I bet you don't remember how long eye to eye your
cords were before installing do you Thanks Mark
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| Subject: | Anyone have Series 5,6,or7 with 0-235 or 0-200? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane" <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu>
-----Original Message-----
I think I have the best combination of engine/prop/airplane possible
with a Kitfox 5. It is a 5 Safari with a Continental IO-240 swinging a
70"/46 pitch Performance prop. Cruises at 125 mph, climbs like an
angel. Aircraft is not super light at 969lb.
Duane Rueb, N24ZM
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Forfun3@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Anyone have Series 5,6,or7 with 0-235 or
0-200?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Forfun3@aol.com
0-235, Vixen, 120mph cruise, 900 pounds empty.
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| Subject: | side windows-Classic IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
I ran on to some photo taken when I replace the sewn-in side windows on the Kitfox
IV with modules from Blue Sky. If anyone is interested I can post them to
sport flight etc.
Noel, do you have any interest?
John
I ran on to some photo taken when I replace the sewn-in side windows on the Kitfox
IV with modules from Blue Sky. If anyone is interested I can post them to
sport flight etc.
Noel, do you have any interest?
John
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| Subject: | Bungee cord measurements |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
A friend measured a new set of Model 4 bungees - results as follows
GaryA
Lite2/582
They were 3/8 inch diameter and 59.5 inch total length to the outside of the
loops with the aluminum lugs installed already. The inner diameter of the
loops measures a 1 inch diameter.
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| Subject: | Kitfox III with 912 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Can anybody put me in touch with "D.Cecil" re the following plane for sale.
I have a friend who is interested
GaryA
Lite2/582
""""
Hey Folks
just listed my model 3 on ebay if you know anybody that wants one send em my
way prob won't find one this cheap anywhere else
"""""
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| Subject: | weight and balance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Mark,
What plane are you building?
Randy
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:04 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: weight and balance
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
I have another question does anyone have page 1 and 2 of the of the
assembly weight and balance paperwork I have 3 and 4 which starts with step
2. I assume the instructions for leveling the aircraft for empty weights.
any help is appreciated Mark
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Hello List,
I have the 3-Blade GSC Wood Prop coupled to a C-Box (3.47:1) and 582. GSC
states that static RPM should be about 6200...the previous owner had static
RPM way up at about 6500. I'm awfully tired of fine-tuning this thing -
whats the best static RPM in your opinions? BTW, right now I'm lucky to push
6200 in climb-out.
Thanks!
Andrew
KF3
http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | FAA needs our comments re: LSA rule change by 1/24! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Hey Gang, the FAA is asking us to submit comments on adding amphibians to
the Light Sport Aircraft Rule. This has been a long time coming, and we
desperately need support.
I realize not everyone cares about flying an amphibious Light Sport
Aircraft. But there are many that do. And many of these people are highly
experienced amphibian pilots that are getting older and their medicals are
costing them a small fortune to maintain. Plus, there are lots of others
that just want to be able to have the option should they decide to ever use
it.
Did you know you can fly an ultralight that is amphibious with zero
training? But a 10,000 hour certified pilot that has been flying amphibs
his whole life can't operate a LSA as an amphib if he opts to fly LSA's
without a medical. Something wrong with that picture. But now's our
opportunity to try and make things right with the FAA. But they need to
hear from us by 1/24!
Please read below for the details on how to submit your comment to the
proposed FAA rule change. And thanks in advance for your support!
Paul Seehafer
(from the internet talk show, ULTRAFLIGHT RADIO;)
Dan Defelici, Sport Aircraft Works
Dan Defelici joins us to talk about a Notice for Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM)
that will permit the Czech Aircraft Works to be issued a special
airworthiness certificate in the light-sport category for the Mermaid
aircraft. This is significant because the Mermaid aircraft is an amphibious
aircraft equipped with landing gear that can be retracted and extended while
in flight. This has been a problem with the Light Sport Aircraft rules
because of the language pertaining to amphibs. This NPRM has a very short
fuse since the comment period ends on January 24, 2006. This is a chance for
the sport aviation community to come together to help change the rules for
the better. Sport Aircraft Works
(And from the Czech Aircraft Works Website)
The FAA has told us they are writing a new NPRM to fix some
ambiguities and errors in the LSA rule. They plan to correct their error
with the amphibious gear issue by allowing retractable gear in amphibs as
they originally intended. This is excellent news but could take months. Chip
Erwin, the director of Czech Aircraft Works, has written a petition to the
FAA to allow LSA certification of the Mermaid now. The FAA has accepted and
puiblished this petition. They are now asking for comments.
This is your chance to be heard where it can really count. The comment
period ENDS 24 JANUARY 2006. So please send you comments in ASAP. The FAA
will make their decision shortly after the comment period ends.
The FAA likes to hear things like why this is in the public interest,
why it is important to the industry, and in the interest of safety.
Statements made with substants count the most. (Keep them short or summarize
your opinion in first few lines.)
To read the petition and to submit your comments go to
http://dms.dot.gov/submit/dspSubmission.cfm follow the instructions for
submitting comments on the electronic docket site. Or fax to 1-202-493-2251.
Refer to Docket No: FAA-2005-23030
Operating administration: FAA
Docket existence: Does Exist
Document title: Czech Aircraft Works - Exemption/Rulemaking
Thank you for your support.
Danny
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| Subject: | Re: side windows-Classic IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: tc9008@aol.com
I have to do the same thing with my windows. Please post them
Travis
-----Original Message-----
From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
Sent: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:00:47 +0000
Subject: Kitfox-List: side windows-Classic IV
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
I ran on to some photo taken when I replace the sewn-in side windows on the
Kitfox IV with modules from Blue Sky. If anyone is interested I can post them
to sport flight etc.
Noel, do you have any interest?
John
I ran on to some photo taken when I replace the sewn-in side windows on the
Kitfox IV with modules from Blue Sky. If anyone is interested I can post them to
sport flight etc.
Noel, do you have any interest?
John
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| Subject: | Bungee cord measurements |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
Thank you That helps a lot Mark
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| Subject: | weight and balance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
Its a KF 2. I am actually doing some fuselage splicing and will need to do
W&B as if I were building it. The splices are at the rear and will need to
re-weigh the plane . The sheets I have start with step #2 With the aircraft
and all fixed equipment installed, record the scale readings. I want to be
sure I don't mget the aft CG out of whack Thanks Mark
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Zimmermans" <jezim@pro-ns.net>
In the pictures section at SportFlight under the Completions dated 1/18/02 is a
set of 5 pictures of Michael Meyers airplane. The fifth one, DSC00061 JPG shows
a 0-200 engine without a propeller extension. The cowling appears to be from
a C-150 or maybe a Champ. Is anyone familiar with this type of instillation?
I want to do this on my Kitfox series 5. I tried the e-mail address but it is
no longer valid. I ran the N number but it comes up a different airplane. Any
info. would be appreciated. Thanks for taking the time to look. Jim
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
That cowling looks very much Piper to me.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zimmermans" <jezim@pro-ns.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:34 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: 0-200
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Zimmermans" <jezim@pro-ns.net>
>
> In the pictures section at SportFlight under the Completions dated 1/18/02
is a set of 5 pictures of Michael Meyers airplane. The fifth one, DSC00061
JPG shows a 0-200 engine without a propeller extension. The cowling appears
to be from a C-150 or maybe a Champ. Is anyone familiar with this type of
instillation? I want to do this on my Kitfox series 5. I tried the e-mail
address but it is no longer valid. I ran the N number but it comes up a
different airplane. Any info. would be appreciated. Thanks for taking the
time to look. Jim
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-94VC 12/24 Crash |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
Deke, the aircraft was built by a former list member. N94VC was a short
wing speedster Model IV with a 912 80 HP. Vic Syracuse built the
airplane. It was a common site around metro Atlanta until March 2005 when
it was sold. It also was at Osh and SNF often. It has flown many Young
Eagles. Vic did mild aerbatics (loops and rolls in it). But I believe
always solo.I visited Vic several times to look over the plane when I was
installing my engine. I was a beautiful example of a Kitfox and a shame
it crashed-but even bigger shame that two young men lost their lives. Vic
went on to build a RV6 and now is flying one of the first customer built
RV10s.
C David Estapa
Woodstock, GA
S5TD 912ULS N97DE
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:19:06 -0500 "Fox5flyer"
<morid@northland.lib.mi.us> writes:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
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> Does anybody know if this was one of ours?
> Deke
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> > <http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20051228X02019&key=1>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-94VC 12/24 Crash |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Thanks David. That fills in a lot of blanks. Whenever we lose one of our
List members it's almost like losing family.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Estapa" <davestapa@juno.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 6:52 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox-94VC 12/24 Crash
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
>
> Deke, the aircraft was built by a former list member. N94VC was a short
> wing speedster Model IV with a 912 80 HP. Vic Syracuse built the
> airplane. It was a common site around metro Atlanta until March 2005 when
> it was sold. It also was at Osh and SNF often. It has flown many Young
> Eagles. Vic did mild aerbatics (loops and rolls in it). But I believe
> always solo.I visited Vic several times to look over the plane when I was
> installing my engine. I was a beautiful example of a Kitfox and a shame
> it crashed-but even bigger shame that two young men lost their lives. Vic
> went on to build a RV6 and now is flying one of the first customer built
> RV10s.
>
> C David Estapa
> Woodstock, GA
> S5TD 912ULS N97DE
>
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:19:06 -0500 "Fox5flyer"
> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> writes:
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
> > <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
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> > Deke
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> > > http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20051228X02019&key=1
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| Subject: | Franklin Engine firewall forward Kitfox 5,6,or 7? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michael burkhardt <mjbavid@yahoo.com>
Has anyone have any experience with Franklin engines
in a Kitfox 5,6,or 7? I looked at there website. They
have a firewall forward available, for the four
cyl-Franklin 125 hp.
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