Today's Message Index:
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1. 01:01 AM - Re: Pre-sewn wing envelopes (Graeme Toft)
2. 08:27 AM - Camlocks (Mike Chaney)
3. 08:41 AM - Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting (jdisher@intergate.com)
4. 09:18 AM - Re: Camlocks (Lynn Matteson)
5. 09:24 AM - Re: Camlocks ()
6. 09:28 AM - Re: Camlocks (Barbara Jones)
7. 09:29 AM - Re: Camlocks (Barbara Jones)
8. 10:33 AM - Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting (Bob Robertson)
9. 02:02 PM - Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting (Rich Williamson)
10. 02:33 PM - Paint (Gary Olson)
11. 03:03 PM - Re: Paint (ron schick)
12. 03:36 PM - Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting (jablackwell)
13. 04:07 PM - Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting (Bob Robertson)
14. 04:09 PM - Re: Paint (flier)
15. 04:13 PM - Re: Paint (Brett Walmsley)
16. 04:27 PM - Re: Paint (ron schick)
17. 05:20 PM - Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting (Paul Wilson)
18. 05:27 PM - Re: Franklin Engine firewall forward Kitfox 5,6,or 7? (Milt's Kitfox Stuff)
19. 05:38 PM - Re: I caught my wing on FIRE! To smokey (Ceashman@aol.com)
20. 06:08 PM - Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting (Lowell Fitt)
21. 06:12 PM - Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting, question? (Ceashman@aol.com)
22. 07:42 PM - Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting - tube lengths (kitfoxjunky)
23. 07:55 PM - Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 (Norm Beauchamp)
24. 09:50 PM - Re: Camlocks (Guy Buchanan)
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| Subject: | Re: Pre-sewn wing envelopes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
Thanks Kurt, I appreciate your advice and will work with the rolled fabric.
I have recieved another reply to my thread that basically says the same as
you. Thanks again.
Regards
Graeme Toft
----- Original Message -----
From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Pre-sewn wing envelopes
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> Hi Graeme,
>
> I covered my plane with the rolled fabric and my
> friend covered his with envelopes. It turned out that
> mine was easier because he had a hard time keeping the
> seems lined up where I could just cut mine to fit.
> His was harder to shrink evenly too because the fabric
> would pucker or bunch when lining up the seems.
>
> Like you, I thought the envelopes would have been
> easier, but it didn't turn out that way.
>
> Kurt S. S-5
>
> --- Graeme Toft <msm@byterocky.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys, has anyone had experience with the ceconite
>> 102 pre-sewn envelopes and if so what are your
>> thoughts. Just thinking they might be a simple way
>> to re-cover the wings and they appear to be
>> reasonably priced.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Graeme Toft
>
>
> --
> 19/01/2006
>
>
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Cc: "Mike Chaney (E-mail)" <mdps_mc@swoca.net>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Chaney <mdps_mc@SWOCA.NET>
I wanting to order some camlocks for my cowling and the one's I need say 5W
and others say 6W. Does this designation tell me what I need? Aricraft
Spruce does have camlocks listed with this designation along with a few
other numbers.
Mike Chaney
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jdisher@intergate.com
Whatever you do, don't tamper with the vent tubes. I increased the
length on my
left one and the engine dropped two left cylinders on take-off twice
during the
next 8 times I flew the plane. Really gets your attention. The easiest and
safest solution is to take a small funnel with a longer hose attached, fasten
it up under the carb, and merely lay the vent tube in it, so that if
fuel drips
out it will be collected by the funnel and drained away from the hot
exhaust and
you have not upset the balance of the carb.
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
>
> This has probably been addressed on the list before, so hope the
> old timers will forgive me. It occured to me that the vent tube
> on the bing carbs present a fire hazard. Should the float stick
> on either carb, then gasoline would be flowing out of the vent
> tube and on the Kitfox would likely come in contact with the
> exhaust pipes and muffler. I would not want to be in my Kitfox if
> this happened.
>
> Has there been any instances of a fire because of sticking
> floats? More importantly, does anyone know of a solution? Not
> flying is not an option.
>
> Jimmie
>
> Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
The 5W and 6W indicate the length (the numbers) and the W means that it
is a winged camloc. The different lengths are needed to go through
differing thicknesses of cowling, mounting tabs, etc. These numbers
(and the letter) are the"dash numbers" that must be added to the part
number of the camloc, such as the 2600 series the 2700 series, etc. If
the camloc is rather tight and hard to insert, go to the next larger
number. Each dash number increases the length by about .030"
or 1/32".
Lynn
On Friday, January 20, 2006, at 02:20 PM, Mike Chaney wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Chaney <mdps_mc@SWOCA.NET>
>
> I wanting to order some camlocks for my cowling and the one's I need
> say 5W
> and others say 6W. Does this designation tell me what I need?
> Aricraft
> Spruce does have camlocks listed with this designation along with a few
> other numbers.
>
> Mike Chaney
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rkstevens@verizon.net>
The "5W" and "6W" as you would suspect designate the size. There is a helpful
page in the Aircraft Spruce catalog that tells you how to decode the meaning.
I will tell you that 'grip length' will be important to you. Sometimes, I'll order
one, and it'll either be too short or too long - which is the grip length.
Often, I will order several of the sizes and pick which ones fit the best for
whatever I'm working on.
Check out the Aircraft Spruce catalog - it'll help a lot.
Ron
>From: Mike Chaney <mdps_mc@swoca.net>
>Date: Fri Jan 20 13:20:09 CST 2006
>To: "Kitfox (E-mail)" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Cc: "Mike Chaney (E-mail)" <mdps_mc@swoca.net>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Camlocks
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Chaney <mdps_mc@SWOCA.NET>
>
>I wanting to order some camlocks for my cowling and the one's I need say 5W
>and others say 6W. Does this designation tell me what I need? Aricraft
>Spruce does have camlocks listed with this designation along with a few
>other numbers.
>
>Mike Chaney
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Barbara Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
Mike,
Here is a link to a page in the Spruce catalog with a description of cam
locks. The way I read it in the 2600 and 2700 series, 5 has a grip
length of .150 to .179 in. and 6 is .180 to .209 in. W is "wing" type.
Tom Jones Classic 4, Ellensburg WA
Mike Chaney wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Chaney <mdps_mc@SWOCA.NET>
>
> I wanting to order some camlocks for my cowling and the one's I need say 5W
> and others say 6W. Does this designation tell me what I need? Aricraft
> Spruce does have camlocks listed with this designation along with a few
> other numbers.
>
> Mike Chaney
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Barbara Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
OOPS, here is the link to cam lock info.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/catalog/Cat06106.pdf
Tom Jones
Mike Chaney wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Chaney <mdps_mc@SWOCA.NET>
>
> I wanting to order some camlocks for my cowling and the one's I need say 5W
> and others say 6W. Does this designation tell me what I need? Aricraft
> Spruce does have camlocks listed with this designation along with a few
> other numbers.
>
> Mike Chaney
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
Jimmy,
There are drip trays available that fit under the carbs.. I know of no
fires resulting from overflowing carburetors.
One thing you do not want to do is extend the vent lines and move them away
from the carburetors. This changes the pressure in the float bowls
resulting is mixture changes...
regards
Bob Robertson
Light Engine Services Ltd.
Rotax Service Center
Aero Control Enterprises, Inc.
St. Albert, Ab. T8N 1M8
Ph: (Tech Support) 1-780-418-4164
Ph: (Order Line) 1-866-418-4164 (TOLL FREE)
www.rtx-av-engines.ca
www.aerocontrols.net
----- Original Message -----
From: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
>
> This has probably been addressed on the list before, so hope the
> old timers will forgive me. It occured to me that the vent tube
> on the bing carbs present a fire hazard. Should the float stick
> on either carb, then gasoline would be flowing out of the vent
> tube and on the Kitfox would likely come in contact with the
> exhaust pipes and muffler. I would not want to be in my Kitfox if
> this happened.
>
> Has there been any instances of a fire because of sticking
> floats? More importantly, does anyone know of a solution? Not
> flying is not an option.
>
> Jimmie
>
> Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rich Williamson" <rwill1@adelphia.net>
Bob,
Is there a "recommended" length for the vent tubes to extend?
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
I am starting to plan for the painting of my S7. I have read the Polyfiber manual
completely and am wondering what kind of success everyone else has had using
this method. What kind of process would you guys recomend to paint the aluminum
and fiberglass? I am going to use a Polytone paint. How much is required to
do the job?
Thanks,
Gary Olson
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Gary I have just painted my fuselage with polytone white. Very easy to use
and white covers well. I don't think I'll make the tail group and wings on
this gallon, but expect two will be plenty. My lemon yellow graphics were
taped, sprayed, and unmasked in three hours easy. One quart will do graphics
on mine. Remember you can always spray more after a few minutes dry time,
but runs are a pain. I used Dupont Nasson automotive urethane for my cowl
and will use it on all metal. Ron NB Or
do not archive
>From: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
>To: Builder Hotline <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Paint
>Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:30:17 -0800 (PST)
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
>
How much is required to do the job?
>
> Thanks,
> Gary Olson
>
>
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>ASAP.
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| Subject: | Rotax 912 Carb Venting |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
No trays with mine. Trays sound like the answer to my concerns.
Anyone know where to get them?
Jimmie
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
<rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
>Jimmie,
>Do you have trays under your carbs? I was provided two little
catch trays
>that fit close up under the carbs and are fitted with hose
fittings to carry
>overflow down and out the cowl. They are kind of a nuisance at
times, but
>should do the job.
>
>Randy = Series 5/7 - 912S
>
>.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jablackwell
>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:58 PM
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell"
<jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
>
>This has probably been addressed on the list before, so hope the
>old timers will forgive me. It occured to me that the vent tube
>on the bing carbs present a fire hazard. Should the float stick
>on either carb, then gasoline would be flowing out of the vent
>tube and on the Kitfox would likely come in contact with the
>exhaust pipes and muffler. I would not want to be in my Kitfox
if
>this happened.
>
>Has there been any instances of a fire because of sticking
>floats? More importantly, does anyone know of a solution? Not
>flying is not an option.
>
>Jimmie
>
>Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
>
>
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Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
Jimmy,
I will ceheck to see what is hanging around is the used parts dept. Will
e-mail you Monday. Maybe someone has some they could part with.
regards
Bob Robertson
Light Engine Services Ltd.
Rotax Service Center
Aero Control Enterprises, Inc.
St. Albert, Ab. T8N 1M8
Ph: (Tech Support) 1-780-418-4164
Ph: (Order Line) 1-866-418-4164 (TOLL FREE)
www.rtx-av-engines.ca
www.aerocontrols.net
----- Original Message -----
From: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:31 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
>
> No trays with mine. Trays sound like the answer to my concerns.
> Anyone know where to get them?
>
> Jimmie
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:46:41 -0700
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
> <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
> >
> >Jimmie,
> >Do you have trays under your carbs? I was provided two little
> catch trays
> >that fit close up under the carbs and are fitted with hose
> fittings to carry
> >overflow down and out the cowl. They are kind of a nuisance at
> times, but
> >should do the job.
> >
> >Randy = Series 5/7 - 912S
> >
> >.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> jablackwell
> >Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:58 PM
> >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
> >
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell"
> <jablackwell@ev1.net>
> >
> >
> >
> >This has probably been addressed on the list before, so hope the
> >old timers will forgive me. It occured to me that the vent tube
> >on the bing carbs present a fire hazard. Should the float stick
> >on either carb, then gasoline would be flowing out of the vent
> >tube and on the Kitfox would likely come in contact with the
> >exhaust pipes and muffler. I would not want to be in my Kitfox
> if
> >this happened.
> >
> >Has there been any instances of a fire because of sticking
> >floats? More importantly, does anyone know of a solution? Not
> >flying is not an option.
> >
> >Jimmie
> >
> >Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
Ron,
You got two cross-coats with 1 gallon of Polytone??
Sounds to me like your coverage is a little thin.
Using HVLP, a top or bottom of one wing will use just
shy of a quart for 1 cross-coat and PolyFiber
recommends two cross-coats for typical coverage.
Which would be ~ two gallons just to do two wings.
Figure about 4 gallons or so of Polytone at least to
do a Kitfox.
Regards,
Ted
--- Original Message ---
From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Paint
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
<roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
>Gary I have just painted my fuselage with polytone
white. Very easy to use
>and white covers well. I don't think I'll make the
tail group and wings on
>this gallon, but expect two will be plenty. My
lemon yellow graphics were
>taped, sprayed, and unmasked in three hours easy.
One quart will do graphics
>on mine. Remember you can always spray more after a
few minutes dry time,
>but runs are a pain. I used Dupont Nasson
automotive urethane for my cowl
>and will use it on all metal. Ron NB Or
>do not archive
>
>>From: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
>>To: Builder Hotline <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Kitfox-List: Paint
>>Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:30:17 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson
<ofd725@yahoo.com>
>>
>How much is required to do the job?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gary Olson
>>
>>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
I am almost done.
Going to be pretty close to:
6 gal poly brush (1 brush 2 cross)
6 gal poly spray (3 cross)
6 gal ins. white poly tone (3 cross)
used 8500 reducer. HVLP gun.
very happy with results.
Easy.
Watch out for static electricity.
Regards
Smokey in Georgia
First time for me covering and painting.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Olson" <ofd725@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:30 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Paint
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
>
> I am starting to plan for the painting of my S7. I have read the Polyfiber
> manual completely and am wondering what kind of success everyone else has
> had using this method. What kind of process would you guys recomend to
> paint the aluminum and fiberglass? I am going to use a Polytone paint. How
> much is required to do the job?
>
> Thanks,
> Gary Olson
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands
> ASAP.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Ouch! the wings are gonna hurt. Ron NB Or
do not archive
>From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>, <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Paint
>Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:09:01 -0500
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
>
>Ron,
>
>You got two cross-coats with 1 gallon of Polytone??
>
>Sounds to me like your coverage is a little thin.
>Using HVLP, a top or bottom of one wing will use just
>shy of a quart for 1 cross-coat and PolyFiber
>recommends two cross-coats for typical coverage.
>Which would be ~ two gallons just to do two wings.
>Figure about 4 gallons or so of Polytone at least to
>do a Kitfox.
>
>Regards,
>
>Ted
>
>--- Original Message ---
>From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Paint
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
><roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
> >
> >Gary I have just painted my fuselage with polytone
>white. Very easy to use
> >and white covers well. I don't think I'll make the
>tail group and wings on
> >this gallon, but expect two will be plenty. My
>lemon yellow graphics were
> >taped, sprayed, and unmasked in three hours easy.
>One quart will do graphics
> >on mine. Remember you can always spray more after a
>few minutes dry time,
> >but runs are a pain. I used Dupont Nasson
>automotive urethane for my cowl
> >and will use it on all metal. Ron NB Or
> >do not archive
> >
> >>From: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
> >>To: Builder Hotline <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >>Subject: Kitfox-List: Paint
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| Subject: | Rotax 912 Carb Venting |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul Wilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
Trays come with the 914 and can be purchased seperately
A Rotax guy told me to leave the plastic tube where it was from the factory
and put a Tee on its end then run a longer tube to the cowl bottom. Didn't
do it, but it is an interesting thought.
Paul
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At 03:31 PM 1/20/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
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>No trays with mine. Trays sound like the answer to my concerns.
>Anyone know where to get them?
>
>Jimmie
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>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:46:41 -0700
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> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
><rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
> >
> >Jimmie,
> >Do you have trays under your carbs? I was provided two little
>catch trays
> >that fit close up under the carbs and are fitted with hose
>fittings to carry
> >overflow down and out the cowl. They are kind of a nuisance at
>times, but
> >should do the job.
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> >Randy = Series 5/7 - 912S
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>jablackwell
> >Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:58 PM
> >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
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> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell"
><jablackwell@ev1.net>
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> >This has probably been addressed on the list before, so hope the
> >old timers will forgive me. It occured to me that the vent tube
> >on the bing carbs present a fire hazard. Should the float stick
> >on either carb, then gasoline would be flowing out of the vent
> >tube and on the Kitfox would likely come in contact with the
> >exhaust pipes and muffler. I would not want to be in my Kitfox
>if
> >this happened.
> >
> >Has there been any instances of a fire because of sticking
> >floats? More importantly, does anyone know of a solution? Not
> >flying is not an option.
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| Subject: | Re: Franklin Engine firewall forward Kitfox 5,6,or 7? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Milt's Kitfox Stuff" <flysly@erols.com>
I've got their engine & mount for my Series V and have had it mounted on the
airframe with most everything hooked up at one point. I've got the engine
off the fuselage now in hopes of getting time to cover some day...
----- Original Message -----
From: "michael burkhardt" <mjbavid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:20 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Franklin Engine firewall forward Kitfox 5,6,or 7?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michael burkhardt <mjbavid@yahoo.com>
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> Has anyone have any experience with Franklin engines
> in a Kitfox 5,6,or 7? I looked at there website. They
> have a firewall forward available, for the four
> cyl-Franklin 125 hp.
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| Subject: | Re: I caught my wing on FIRE! To smokey |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Ceashman@aol.com
Hi Brett.
Happy to hear you are about done with the painting.
>>> suspect it is toluene (sp?) I am sure it is not kerosene.
If it is toluene then this would be tricky stuff (static wise) on fiberglass
or the fabric, unless the Polyfiber people added some kind of anti static.
Anyway, the Skybolt is slow going but enjoyable. I am close to finishing the
full canopy. This is for the long journeys and cool weather and I have an open
cockpit set up for the short summer trips.
The Kitfox is down and waiting for its annual. Been very busy with
everything. I finally got my flight review this week after I procrastinated for
nearly
three months. Not a regulation problem, I haven't been flying:(
Carin is doing fine, still allows me to puts around in the workshop.
You guy's will have to contact and visit. The hangar is complete and the
house is underway. Come on up and we can show you around and stay for refreshments.
Greetings Eric and Carin
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
California Power Systems has them:
http://www.800-airwolf.com/
Click on online store, then click on search. You are looking for carb pans
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:31 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
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> No trays with mine. Trays sound like the answer to my concerns.
> Anyone know where to get them?
>
> Jimmie
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:46:41 -0700
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
> <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>>
>>Jimmie,
>>Do you have trays under your carbs? I was provided two little
> catch trays
>>that fit close up under the carbs and are fitted with hose
> fittings to carry
>>overflow down and out the cowl. They are kind of a nuisance at
> times, but
>>should do the job.
>>
>>Randy = Series 5/7 - 912S
>>
>>.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> jablackwell
>>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:58 PM
>>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell"
> <jablackwell@ev1.net>
>>
>>
>>
>>This has probably been addressed on the list before, so hope the
>>old timers will forgive me. It occured to me that the vent tube
>>on the bing carbs present a fire hazard. Should the float stick
>>on either carb, then gasoline would be flowing out of the vent
>>tube and on the Kitfox would likely come in contact with the
>>exhaust pipes and muffler. I would not want to be in my Kitfox
> if
>>this happened.
>>
>>Has there been any instances of a fire because of sticking
>>floats? More importantly, does anyone know of a solution? Not
>>flying is not an option.
>>
>>Jimmie
>>
>>Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting, question? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Ceashman@aol.com
Bob Robertson said
>Jimmy,
>There are drip trays available that fit under the carbs.. I know of no
>fires resulting from overflowing carburetors.
jdisher said.
>safest solution is to take a small funnel with a longer hose attached, fasten
>it up under the carb, and merely lay the vent tube in it, so that if
>fuel drips
>out it will be collected by the funnel and drained away from the hot
>exhaust and
>you have not upset the balance of the carb.
Hi guys.
I remember discussion of the possible fire hazard because of the vent tubes
hanging out there.
I am trying to understand this:
While slicing through the air at the blinding speed of a 912 Kitfox and the
air being squeezed through the cowl opening and out the bottom. I cannot see a
small funnel or drip tray capturing the flow of fuel. I think while parked on
the ramp and the prop spinning would cause enough draft to blow the dripping
fuel away from the devises placed under the drip.
Then again, I don't know I have not been under the cowl with the engine
running. Maybe there is no or little air movement?
I don't know, is it that the 912 carburetor only overflows when at rest and
the motor shut down?
If this is the case I can see the above being solutions if the carb ever
dribbles especially the funnel and tube, because it has no capacity. The drip tray
must be larger capacity than the quantity of the expected leakage.
And more importantly, I can feel more at ease at the controls while the
engine running on the ground or in the air.
Thanks in advance for information on this. Eric
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| Subject: | Rotax 912 Carb Venting - tube lengths |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
You should not run the carb vent tubes to the bottom of the cowl. These
are used for the carb altitude compensation..the mixture automatically
adjusts. Put them into the air flow and the pressures get messed up and
your carbs will not compensate for altitude properly. This is why there is
a recommended length..and it is relatively short. I routed mine so any
overflow is sucked into the air filter..and hence back into the carbs
where it is burned.
Gary Walsh
KF IV Anphib 912S
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
do not archive
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul Wilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
Trays come with the 914 and can be purchased seperately
A Rotax guy told me to leave the plastic tube where it was from the
factory
and put a Tee on its end then run a longer tube to the cowl bottom.
Didn't
do it, but it is an interesting thought.
Paul
===================
At 03:31 PM 1/20/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
>
>No trays with mine. Trays sound like the answer to my concerns.
>Anyone know where to get them?
>
>Jimmie
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:46:41 -0700
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
><rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
> >
> >Jimmie,
> >Do you have trays under your carbs? I was provided two little
>catch trays
> >that fit close up under the carbs and are fitted with hose
>fittings to carry
> >overflow down and out the cowl. They are kind of a nuisance at
>times, but
> >should do the job.
> >
> >Randy = Series 5/7 - 912S
> >
> >.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>jablackwell
> >Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:58 PM
> >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
> >
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell"
><jablackwell@ev1.net>
> >
> >
> >
> >This has probably been addressed on the list before, so hope the
> >old timers will forgive me. It occured to me that the vent tube
> >on the bing carbs present a fire hazard. Should the float stick
> >on either carb, then gasoline would be flowing out of the vent
> >tube and on the Kitfox would likely come in contact with the
> >exhaust pipes and muffler. I would not want to be in my Kitfox
>if
> >this happened.
> >
> >Has there been any instances of a fire because of sticking
> >floats? More importantly, does anyone know of a solution? Not
> >flying is not an option.
> >
> >Jimmie
> >
> >Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
> >
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| Subject: | Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Norm Beauchamp <nebchmp@wcc.net>
<mrclary@erols.com> Milt Cary was one who purchased a Franklin. I don't
know how up to date the e-mail address is. Roy Meyers was the first to
put a Franklin in a Kitfox Safari. I don't have his e-mail , and
haven't heard from him for some time. Norm
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 11:20 AM 1/20/2006, you wrote:
>the one's I need say 5W and others say 6W
These correspond to the -5 and -6 lengths. You'll have to eyeball the type
based on the pictures in the ACS catalog.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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