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1. 05:32 AM - Fw: Re: Engines (michael burkhardt)
2. 06:36 AM - need IV, speedster wingtips (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?=)
3. 10:40 AM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 40 Msgs - 01/21/06 (Kirby Cramer)
4. 04:36 PM - First Flight Report (Donna and Roger McConnell)
5. 04:48 PM - Re: First Flight Report (eccles)
6. 04:58 PM - Re: First Flight Report (michael burkhardt)
7. 05:42 PM - Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting (jablackwell)
8. 06:09 PM - Re: First Flight Report (Dan Billingsley)
9. 06:20 PM - Re: First Flight Report (Donna and Roger McConnell)
10. 06:21 PM - Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting (RAY Gignac)
11. 06:53 PM - Re: First Flight Report (ron schick)
12. 06:58 PM - Re: First Flight Report (jdmcbean)
13. 07:02 PM - Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting (Floran Higgins)
14. 08:30 PM - Re: First Flight Report (Don Pearsall)
15. 08:53 PM - Re: First Flight Report (QSS)
16. 09:11 PM - Re: First Flight Report (Tom Tomlin)
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Subject: Re: Engines
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I have one 914UL in the box all there. $18K S/N4417525
Three 912 UL's Two all together in box $10K each. S/N's 4401158,4401008
One zero time with oil squirters and built up. Together $10K S/N 4152042
No service bulletins done on them since 1998.
If you need pictures I have.
These engines were bought for a research project and never used. Kept in
storage in So. CA.
I have the oil tanks for them as well. Right now in my hangar in Livermore,
CA.
Give me a call if serious
925-447-8055
----- Original Message -----
From: "michael burkhardt" <mjbavid@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:48 PM
Subject: Engines
> Dave, What engines do you have forsale? And, prices
> please if possible? Thanks, Mike
>
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i am building a IV with the droped wingtips, i am going to build it with speedster
type wingtips instead, anyone that have a set to sell.
Geir Olav
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kirby Cramer" <kitfox@mcn.org>
How can I get on the chat?
Kirby Cramer
Commercial Broker Associate & Realtor
Prudential California Realty
Bonsall, California
760-505-3173 cell
760-454-4567 fax
Kirby@PruSD.com
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 08:45 AM - Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting (Bob Robertson)
2. 09:12 AM - Re: Paint (Donald STEVENSON)
3. 09:37 AM - Re: Paint (Brett Walmsley)
4. 10:01 AM - Purolator fuel filters revisited (Lynn Matteson)
5. 10:16 AM - Drain valves (Clint Bazzill)
6. 10:27 AM - Rotax 912 & 914 (Clint Bazzill)
7. 11:04 AM - fabric temp/ paint (ron schick)
8. 11:26 AM - Re: Purolator fuel filters revisited (James
Shumaker)
9. 11:30 AM - Re: fabric temp/ paint (James Shumaker)
10. 12:13 PM - Re: fabric temp/ paint (Randy Daughenbaugh)
11. 12:49 PM - Re: Paint (Guy Buchanan)
12. 01:27 PM - Re: Paint (eccles)
13. 01:33 PM - paint hoses- water trap (ron schick)
14. 01:51 PM - Re: Paint (Donald STEVENSON)
15. 02:01 PM - Re: Purolator fuel filters revisited (Alan & Linda
Daniels)
16. 02:15 PM - Re: fabric temp/ paint (Alan & Linda Daniels)
17. 02:17 PM - Fw: Re: Aeroelectric Seminar at Prescott (Dan
Billingsley)
18. 02:26 PM - Re: Paint (Alan & Linda Daniels)
19. 02:26 PM - Re: Purolator fuel filters revisited (Lynn Matteson)
20. 02:29 PM - Re: fabric temp/ paint (Lynn Matteson)
21. 02:30 PM - Re: fabric temp/ paint (ron schick)
22. 02:37 PM - Kitfox 4-1200 For Sale (Jay Fabian)
23. 02:45 PM - Jimmy Franklin aerobatic video (ron schick)
24. 02:51 PM - Re: Paint (Lynn Matteson)
25. 03:02 PM - Re: Jimmy Franklin aerobatic video (Ronald K.
Stevens)
26. 03:10 PM - Re: Jimmy Franklin aerobatic video (Howard Firm)
27. 03:10 PM - Re: Paint (Lynn Matteson)
28. 03:10 PM - Re: Jimmy Franklin aerobatic video (jdmcbean)
29. 03:20 PM - Re: paint hoses- water trap (Lynn Matteson)
30. 04:13 PM - Who was looking for Purolator Fuel Filter?? (Rich
Williamson)
31. 04:47 PM - Re: Jimmy Franklin aerobatic video (ron schick)
32. 05:20 PM - Re: Who was looking for Purolator Fuel Filter??
(Lynn Matteson)
33. 05:31 PM - Re: fabric temp/ paint (Brett Walmsley)
34. 05:32 PM - Re: Paint (Brett Walmsley)
35. 06:39 PM - Re: Purolator fuel filters revisited (Lowell Fitt)
36. 07:02 PM - Re: paint hoses- water trap (Alan & Linda Daniels)
37. 07:54 PM - Re: Drain valves (wingsdown)
38. 08:45 PM - Re: Purolator fuel filters revisited (Lynn Matteson)
39. 08:51 PM - Re: paint hoses- water trap (Lynn Matteson)
40. 10:41 PM - Re: Purolator fuel filters revisited (James
Shumaker)
________________________________ Message 1
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Time: 08:45:22 AM PST US
From: "Bob Robertson" <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson"
<aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
Rick,
The lines as they are shipped from the factory are 120mm (a tad longer
than
4 3/4").
Thats what I'd stay with. Differences in cowling pressures and
temperatures
between airplanes
could make a difference in air pressure in the float bowl. Therefore any
changes to where the float bowl chambers tubes are placed could result
in a
dramatic change.
Hope this helps
Bob R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Williamson" <rwill1@adelphia.net>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rich Williamson"
<rwill1@adelphia.net>
>
> Bob,
> Is there a "recommended" length for the vent tubes to extend?
>
>
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 09:12:20 AM PST US
From: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON
<shericom@rogers.com>
Hi Smokey, I've just read your post and since I will
be ready to paint my M4 Speedster in the spring I have
a question or two for you. What model is your kit, and
what type of HLVP unit did you use, was it a complete
system or just a gun using a standard air compressor.
I have a large compressor and am not sure if I only
need to purchase a HVLP gun (if such a thing even
exists)
Any comments you may have would be a great help. Don
Stevenson, Caledon Ontario Canada.
--- Brett Walmsley <N93HJ@numail.org> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley"
> <N93HJ@numail.org>
>
> I am almost done.
> Going to be pretty close to:
> 6 gal poly brush (1 brush 2 cross)
> 6 gal poly spray (3 cross)
> 6 gal ins. white poly tone (3 cross)
> used 8500 reducer. HVLP gun.
> very happy with results.
> Easy.
> Watch out for static electricity.
> Regards
> Smokey in Georgia
>
> First time for me covering and painting.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Olson" <ofd725@yahoo.com>
> To: "Builder Hotline" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:30 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Paint
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson
> <ofd725@yahoo.com>
> >
> > I am starting to plan for the painting of my S7. I
> have read the Polyfiber
> > manual completely and am wondering what kind of
> success everyone else has
> > had using this method. What kind of process would
> you guys recomend to
> > paint the aluminum and fiberglass? I am going to
> use a Polytone paint. How
> > much is required to do the job?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gary Olson
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get
> quality prints in your hands
> > ASAP.
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
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>
>
> browse
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> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
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> Admin.
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________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 09:37:18 AM PST US
From: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
My kit is a M4 long wing with all the speedster mods.
The gun is a porter-cable PSH1 w/ standard nozzle (ebay $45) (I they are
over a hundred new)(many companies have similar models)
It is just a gun with the 20 oz. tank on top. Running a 22# +-.
Works real nice for me. I am NOT a painter.
One piece of advice I would give, would be to not over think the
process.
It's just not that complicated.
The poly process is just like they say, "dead easy".
p.s. Watch out for static electricity ;-)
Regards, Brett (smokey or sparky, I've heard em all since I tried to
burn my
airplane up)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald STEVENSON" <shericom@rogers.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Paint
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON
<shericom@rogers.com>
>
> Hi Smokey, I've just read your post and since I will
> be ready to paint my M4 Speedster in the spring I have
> a question or two for you. What model is your kit, and
> what type of HLVP unit did you use, was it a complete
> system or just a gun using a standard air compressor.
> I have a large compressor and am not sure if I only
> need to purchase a HVLP gun (if such a thing even
> exists)
> Any comments you may have would be a great help. Don
> Stevenson, Caledon Ontario Canada.
> --- Brett Walmsley <N93HJ@numail.org> wrote:
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley"
>> <N93HJ@numail.org>
>>
>> I am almost done.
>> Going to be pretty close to:
>> 6 gal poly brush (1 brush 2 cross)
>> 6 gal poly spray (3 cross)
>> 6 gal ins. white poly tone (3 cross)
>> used 8500 reducer. HVLP gun.
>> very happy with results.
>> Easy.
>> Watch out for static electricity.
>> Regards
>> Smokey in Georgia
>>
>> First time for me covering and painting.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gary Olson" <ofd725@yahoo.com>
>> To: "Builder Hotline" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:30 PM
>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Paint
>>
>>
>> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson
>> <ofd725@yahoo.com>
>> >
>> > I am starting to plan for the painting of my S7. I
>> have read the Polyfiber
>> > manual completely and am wondering what kind of
>> success everyone else has
>> > had using this method. What kind of process would
>> you guys recomend to
>> > paint the aluminum and fiberglass? I am going to
>> use a Polytone paint. How
>> > much is required to do the job?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Gary Olson
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------
>> > Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get
>> quality prints in your hands
>> > ASAP.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> browse
>> Subscriptions page,
>> FAQ,
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>>
>> Admin.
>>
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>
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>
________________________________ Message 4
_____________________________________
Time: 10:01:09 AM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: Purolator fuel filters revisited
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
I just spent a few hours researching the Purolator glass in-line fuel
filter subject, and was wondering if there was any recent news
regarding this subject. I perused several Matronics lists and found
pros and cons on the subject. I have then in my fuel lines down to the
header tank, and have been taxiing my plane with no problems so far. I
would like to install another after the header tank, which is behind
the seat, but before the auxiliary fuel pump. It seems that locally the
Purolators are no longer available, nor do they show up on Purolators
website, and everyone tries to sell me a Mr. Gasket look-alike, but
they are of VERY poor quality compared to the Purolator product. So,
can anybody shed some new light on this subject? I'd really like to see
what the filter is trapping, and don't like the idea of those cheap
plastic automotive filters.
Lynn
________________________________ Message 5
_____________________________________
Time: 10:16:15 AM PST US
From: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Drain valves
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill"
<clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
Can someone tell me the number for the wing tank drain valves. Thanks
________________________________ Message 6
_____________________________________
Time: 10:27:27 AM PST US
From: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
Cc: davedent@comcast.net
Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 & 914
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill"
<clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
I was in Livermore airport yesterday and met Dave Dent. He has a 914
and I
believe 2 0r 3 912's for sale. You can contact him at
davedent@comcast.net
________________________________ Message 7
_____________________________________
Time: 11:04:51 AM PST US
From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: fabric temp/ paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
<roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
What temps have been used to shrink the fabric? I could not bring
myself to
go 350 on the fuselage as it was starting to deform the longerons. now
I am
ready for final shrinking on the tail group and want it as tight as
possible.
I used almost one gallon of polybrush on fuselage, and almost as much
polyspray. The white however covered well with the first coat and the
second coat was a formality. barely over a half gallon. Is there any
advantage to more color? I have HVLP but used my old bottom feeder for
this
as I have more experience with the older style. Not a technique for
beginers, but on autos I pull the needle way back for lots of paint,
stay
close and move really fast. You can give another fast pass if needed or
move away if it went on heavy. On single stage paints this allows
completing the coat and tying in the wet edge at the starting point.
May
not be needed with polytone, but did it by habit. Perhaps this why it
covered so well. Ron NB Or
________________________________ Message 8
_____________________________________
Time: 11:26:26 AM PST US
From: James Shumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Purolator fuel filters revisited
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker
<jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Hi Lynn
After years of flying with the glass purolator just before the carbs,
I got bored
with seeing the same thing over and over. I considered the screwed
together
glass case to be a weak point and so now use a cheap STEEL automotive
fuel
filter. This filter is after the gascolator screen and is changed
annually.
Remember, the more devices you have in line the more flow
restrictions.
Jim Shumaker
Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
I just spent a few hours researching the Purolator glass in-line fuel
filter subject, and was wondering if there was any recent news
regarding this subject. I perused several Matronics lists and found
pros and cons on the subject. I have then in my fuel lines down to the
header tank, and have been taxiing my plane with no problems so far. I
would like to install another after the header tank, which is behind
the seat, but before the auxiliary fuel pump. It seems that locally the
Purolators are no longer available, nor do they show up on Purolators
website, and everyone tries to sell me a Mr. Gasket look-alike, but
they are of VERY poor quality compared to the Purolator product. So,
can anybody shed some new light on this subject? I'd really like to see
what the filter is trapping, and don't like the idea of those cheap
plastic automotive filters.
Lynn
________________________________ Message 9
_____________________________________
Time: 11:30:34 AM PST US
From: James Shumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: fabric temp/ paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker
<jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Ron
250 degrees F.
More paint is more weight. Do you want to fly well or show well? One
of the
tricks that was employed with the early kitfoxes was a very thin paint
coat to
save weight.
Jim Shumaker
ron schick <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
What temps have been used to shrink the fabric? I could not bring myself
to
go 350 on the fuselage as it was starting to deform the longerons. now I
am
ready for final shrinking on the tail group and want it as tight as
possible.
I used almost one gallon of polybrush on fuselage, and almost as much
polyspray. The white however covered well with the first coat and the
second coat was a formality. barely over a half gallon. Is there any
advantage to more color? I have HVLP but used my old bottom feeder for
this
as I have more experience with the older style. Not a technique for
beginers, but on autos I pull the needle way back for lots of paint,
stay
close and move really fast. You can give another fast pass if needed or
move away if it went on heavy. On single stage paints this allows
completing the coat and tying in the wet edge at the starting point. May
not be needed with polytone, but did it by habit. Perhaps this why it
covered so well. Ron NB Or
________________________________ Message 10
____________________________________
Time: 12:13:40 PM PST US
From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: fabric temp/ paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
<rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
300F most places. 275 F in some places.
350F is too high for our foxes. And be sure your iron calibration is
accurate.
Randy
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
Shumaker
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: fabric temp/ paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker
<jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Ron
250 degrees F.
More paint is more weight. Do you want to fly well or show well? One
of
the tricks that was employed with the early kitfoxes was a very thin
paint
coat to save weight.
Jim Shumaker
ron schick <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
What temps have been used to shrink the fabric? I could not bring myself
to
go 350 on the fuselage as it was starting to deform the longerons. now I
am
ready for final shrinking on the tail group and want it as tight as
possible.
I used almost one gallon of polybrush on fuselage, and almost as much
polyspray. The white however covered well with the first coat and the
second coat was a formality. barely over a half gallon. Is there any
advantage to more color? I have HVLP but used my old bottom feeder for
this
as I have more experience with the older style. Not a technique for
beginers, but on autos I pull the needle way back for lots of paint,
stay
close and move really fast. You can give another fast pass if needed or
move away if it went on heavy. On single stage paints this allows
completing the coat and tying in the wet edge at the starting point. May
not be needed with polytone, but did it by habit. Perhaps this why it
covered so well. Ron NB Or
________________________________ Message 11
____________________________________
Time: 12:49:40 PM PST US
From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 09:11 AM 1/21/2006, you wrote:
>I have a large compressor and am not sure if I only
>need to purchase a HVLP gun (if such a thing even
>exists)
>Any comments you may have would be a great help. Don
>Stevenson, Caledon Ontario Canada.
I use the Husky HVLP gun and it seems to work well. However, if I had to
do
it all over again I'd buy a more expensive professional gun. The Husky
is a
pain to clean completely and I'm beginning to think cleaning it causes
more
wear and tear than use. I recently had to rebuild the internals because
some had simply worn out from assembly/ disassembly. (In particular, the
air cap started leaking; a bad thing for an air gun.) I'd like to find a
gun that's made to be used and cleaned daily over a long period of time.
gun. I installed both a water separator and then a dryer in line. I've
never seen water in the separator so I think that was a waste of effort.
Here in San Diego the dryer works hard. I bought a really large one,
(the
bowl is about 10" long and 4" diameter,) so I'd be able to do a lot of
paint without having to dry the agent.
2) is a pressure regulator at the gun. I run 90 psi to the gun and then
between 25 and 40 psi at the gun. I like this system a lot better than
using the compressor's regulator since there are no line losses.
Guy
________________________________ Message 12
____________________________________
Time: 01:27:50 PM PST US
From: "eccles" <eccles@Chartermi.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "eccles" <eccles@chartermi.net>
Hey guys
jumping in with my two cents , what kind of paint are you spraying
aerothane
or polytone for the final coats?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 09:11 AM 1/21/2006, you wrote:
>I have a large compressor and am not sure if I only
>need to purchase a HVLP gun (if such a thing even
>exists)
>Any comments you may have would be a great help. Don
>Stevenson, Caledon Ontario Canada.
I use the Husky HVLP gun and it seems to work well. However, if I had to
do
it all over again I'd buy a more expensive professional gun. The Husky
is a
pain to clean completely and I'm beginning to think cleaning it causes
more
wear and tear than use. I recently had to rebuild the internals because
some had simply worn out from assembly/ disassembly. (In particular, the
air cap started leaking; a bad thing for an air gun.) I'd like to find a
gun that's made to be used and cleaned daily over a long period of time.
gun. I installed both a water separator and then a dryer in line. I've
never seen water in the separator so I think that was a waste of effort.
Here in San Diego the dryer works hard. I bought a really large one,
(the
bowl is about 10" long and 4" diameter,) so I'd be able to do a lot of
paint without having to dry the agent.
2) is a pressure regulator at the gun. I run 90 psi to the gun and then
between 25 and 40 psi at the gun. I like this system a lot better than
using the compressor's regulator since there are no line losses.
Guy
________________________________ Message 13
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Time: 01:33:04 PM PST US
From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: paint hoses- water trap
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
<roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
I have 50' hose to water trap which I leave barely hissing then 50' more
to
workshop then 25' to gun. The first 50' acts as a condensor for water
separation. 50-60 psi at compressor gives good consistant gun pressure.
HVLP may require a secondary tank near gun. Raining cats and dogs in
Oregon, but painting anyway. Ron NB Or
________________________________ Message 14
____________________________________
Time: 01:51:47 PM PST US
From: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON
<shericom@rogers.com>
Polytone when I get to that point, Don
--- eccles <eccles@Chartermi.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "eccles"
> <eccles@chartermi.net>
>
> Hey guys
> jumping in with my two cents , what kind of paint
> are you spraying aerothane
> or polytone for the final coats?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On
> Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:48 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Paint
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan
> <bnn@nethere.com>
>
> At 09:11 AM 1/21/2006, you wrote:
> >I have a large compressor and am not sure if I only
> >need to purchase a HVLP gun (if such a thing even
> >exists)
> >Any comments you may have would be a great help.
> Don
> >Stevenson, Caledon Ontario Canada.
>
> I use the Husky HVLP gun and it seems to work well.
> However, if I had to do
> it all over again I'd buy a more expensive
> professional gun. The Husky is a
> pain to clean completely and I'm beginning to think
> cleaning it causes more
> wear and tear than use. I recently had to rebuild
> the internals because
> some had simply worn out from assembly/ disassembly.
> (In particular, the
> air cap started leaking; a bad thing for an air
> gun.) I'd like to find a
> gun that's made to be used and cleaned daily over a
> long period of time.
>
> gun. I installed both a water separator and then a
> dryer in line. I've
> never seen water in the separator so I think that
> was a waste of effort.
> Here in San Diego the dryer works hard. I bought a
> really large one, (the
> bowl is about 10" long and 4" diameter,) so I'd be
> able to do a lot of
> paint without having to dry the agent.
>
> 2) is a pressure regulator at the gun. I run 90 psi
> to the gun and then
> between 25 and 40 psi at the gun. I like this system
> a lot better than
> using the compressor's regulator since there are no
> line losses.
>
>
> Guy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>
> Admin.
>
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>
________________________________ Message 15
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Time: 02:01:03 PM PST US
From: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Purolator fuel filters revisited
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
<aldaniels@fmtc.com>
I have been using the NAPA version of the same filter -glass with a
nylon filter- just above the the header tank for 9 years with no
problems. I have done it two ways, one is above the seat so I can see
it, the other is just above the header tank and I cut 1 1/2 inch holes
in the seat back so I could pull the seat cushion back forward and see
them. I have see and heard of problems with using the paper inline type
filter. For some reason there is not always enough head pressure to push
the gas through them, especially at altitude.
Lynn Matteson wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
>I just spent a few hours researching the Purolator glass in-line fuel
>filter subject, and was wondering if there was any recent news
>regarding this subject. I perused several Matronics lists and found
>pros and cons on the subject. I have then in my fuel lines down to the
>header tank, and have been taxiing my plane with no problems so far. I
>would like to install another after the header tank, which is behind
>the seat, but before the auxiliary fuel pump. It seems that locally the
>Purolators are no longer available, nor do they show up on Purolators
>website, and everyone tries to sell me a Mr. Gasket look-alike, but
>they are of VERY poor quality compared to the Purolator product. So,
>can anybody shed some new light on this subject? I'd really like to see
>what the filter is trapping, and don't like the idea of those cheap
>plastic automotive filters.
>
>Lynn
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 16
____________________________________
Time: 02:15:49 PM PST US
From: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: fabric temp/ paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
<aldaniels@fmtc.com>
On the 5,6,7 I use 325/350 in most places. On cold days the fabric seems
a little loose when I didn't fully shrink. The trailing edge of the wing
seems to be the place you have to watch. The Poly system is dead simple,
but there are a few tricks. Were in Oregon are you, I am in eastern
Oregon.
Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
<rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
>300F most places. 275 F in some places.
>
>350F is too high for our foxes. And be sure your iron calibration is
>accurate.
>
>Randy
>
>.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
Shumaker
>Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:30 PM
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: fabric temp/ paint
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker
><jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
>
>Ron
>
> 250 degrees F.
>
> More paint is more weight. Do you want to fly well or show well?
One of
>the tricks that was employed with the early kitfoxes was a very thin
paint
>coat to save weight.
>
> Jim Shumaker
>
>ron schick <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
>
>What temps have been used to shrink the fabric? I could not bring
myself to
>go 350 on the fuselage as it was starting to deform the longerons. now
I am
>ready for final shrinking on the tail group and want it as tight as
>possible.
>I used almost one gallon of polybrush on fuselage, and almost as much
>polyspray. The white however covered well with the first coat and the
>second coat was a formality. barely over a half gallon. Is there any
>advantage to more color? I have HVLP but used my old bottom feeder for
this
>as I have more experience with the older style. Not a technique for
>beginers, but on autos I pull the needle way back for lots of paint,
stay
>close and move really fast. You can give another fast pass if needed or
>move away if it went on heavy. On single stage paints this allows
>completing the coat and tying in the wet edge at the starting point.
May
>not be needed with polytone, but did it by habit. Perhaps this why it
>covered so well. Ron NB Or
>
>
>
>
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________________________________ Message 17
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Time: 02:17:03 PM PST US
From: Dan Billingsley <dan@azshowersolutions.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fwd: Re: Aeroelectric Seminar at Prescott
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dan Billingsley
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Subject: Re: Aeroelectric Seminar at Prescott
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The Prescott Seminar is now on Bob's AeroElectric site.
You can sign up very easily by going to:
http://aeroelectric.com/seminars/Prescott.html
No prepayment required - in fact you will only have to pay what you
really feel the seminar was worth if you don't think it was worth the
$150.00!
On Jan 11, 2006, at 7:28 PM, John Ackerman wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric Connection fame will be putting on
a
> two-day seminar/workshop at Prescott Airport (Love field, KPRC) on May
> 20 and 21, sponsored by EAA chapter 658. Bob is arguably the foremost
> authority on homebuilt aircraft electrical systems. His approach is
> highly practical, and is based on sound engineering principles and a
> scientific attitude.
>
> Seminar emphasis is on reliable and non-noisy systems. Details
can be
> found on Bob's web site:
> http://www.aeroelectric.com/
> Just click on Weekend Seminars. Content will range from theory to
> hands-on demonstrations.
>
> You can sign up on the web site. The Prescott event may not be
up yet
> when you get there, but I expect it will be soon. The web site is a
> gold mine of useful information, but be warned -you can spend a lot of
> time there! The seminar is based on the Aeroelectric Connection book.
> Studying this resource in advance will multiply the benefit of the
> seminar; there's a special price for seminar attendees . Just add a
> request for immediate mailing in the comments box of the reservation
> form.
>
> We will have AM coffee and a lunch on Saturday, Dutch treat. We
will
> arrange a place for all interested participants to dine on Saturday
> night from among the many excellent restaurants in the area. We are
> currently working on a spouses' program; there are a number of museums
> and other attractions in the Prescott area. We hope to have a special
> rate available at the motel across highway 89 from the airport. There
> are a number of motels and hotels of varying degrees of luxury in the
> area.
>
> The cost of the seminar is $150, but Bob's policy is "If you
don't
> think it was worth $150 after the seminar, just pay me what you think
> it WAS worth". Chapter 658 will make nothing on the seminar, and will
> stand for the Coffee and doughnuts. We will pass the hat for the
> lunch.
>
> Will you kindly forward this message to your chapter members?
>
> Please don't hesitate to call if you have questions or
suggestions -
> home phone is 928-759-9279 and mobile is 928-308-0471. We're looking
> forward to seeing you at the seminar!
>
> Best regards.
> John Ackerman chapter 461
> Dan Billingsley chapter 228
________________________________ Message 18
____________________________________
Time: 02:26:26 PM PST US
From: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
<aldaniels@fmtc.com>
If you are getting water when you spray, even using a water separator
there is a trick. This usually happens when you spray a lot and the
compressor and the air gets hot. The water does not come out of the air
till it cools, like coming out of the gun. I got an extra hose and
coiled most of it in a bucket of ice water, then put my water trap after
that hose. This cools the air so the trap can take it out. I like the
Sharp gun. Remember that the size of the tip is critical, so match it to
what you are spraying. Any of the Poly stuff you can use a 1.5 or primer
type gun, but urethane requires a smaller tip.
Guy Buchanan wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
>
>At 09:11 AM 1/21/2006, you wrote:
>
>
>>I have a large compressor and am not sure if I only
>>need to purchase a HVLP gun (if such a thing even
>>exists)
>>Any comments you may have would be a great help. Don
>>Stevenson, Caledon Ontario Canada.
>>
>>
>
>I use the Husky HVLP gun and it seems to work well. However, if I had
to do
>it all over again I'd buy a more expensive professional gun. The Husky
is a
>pain to clean completely and I'm beginning to think cleaning it causes
more
>wear and tear than use. I recently had to rebuild the internals because
>some had simply worn out from assembly/ disassembly. (In particular,
the
>air cap started leaking; a bad thing for an air gun.) I'd like to find
a
>gun that's made to be used and cleaned daily over a long period of
time.
>
>gun. I installed both a water separator and then a dryer in line. I've
>never seen water in the separator so I think that was a waste of
effort.
>Here in San Diego the dryer works hard. I bought a really large one,
(the
>bowl is about 10" long and 4" diameter,) so I'd be able to do a lot of
>paint without having to dry the agent.
>
>2) is a pressure regulator at the gun. I run 90 psi to the gun and then
>between 25 and 40 psi at the gun. I like this system a lot better than
>using the compressor's regulator since there are no line losses.
>
>
>Guy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 19
____________________________________
Time: 02:26:27 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Purolator fuel filters revisited
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Thanks, Jim-
Maybe I'll remove the glass filters a little later on, too, but for
now, after having re-Kreemed the tanks, I want to see what's flowing
down to the header tank. Just for the history of it, my 1994 IV is just
now coming together after being owned by three previous owners, and I'm
the first to get it past the "bare bones" stage. Therefore, the tanks
were virgins, and Frank Miller said last year that they should be
re-Kreemed, so I did that. So when the time came for the first splash
of gas, I really needed to satisfy myself that the system was clean,
hence the glass filters. I've always had good luck with them on
automotive installations in the past, then I began reading the archives
which revealed some folks having problems with them. Also, I don't have
a gascolator, using the header tank for that purpose, and taking my gas
sample from the bottom of that header tank. I ran a flow test and that
revealed 8.5 gals. per hour gravity at the fuel inlet to the Jabiru
fuel pump, so I'm well within the parameters for flow...way more than
that if I turn on the aux. pump. If I do install another filter (before
the aux. pump) it would be to catch anything that got by the header
tank.
Lynn
On Saturday, January 21, 2006, at 02:25 PM, James Shumaker wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker
> <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Hi Lynn
>
> After years of flying with the glass purolator just before the
> carbs, I got bored with seeing the same thing over and over. I
> considered the screwed together glass case to be a weak point and so
> now use a cheap STEEL automotive fuel filter. This filter is after
> the gascolator screen and is changed annually.
>
> Remember, the more devices you have in line the more flow
> restrictions.
>
> Jim Shumaker
>
>
> Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
>
> I just spent a few hours researching the Purolator glass in-line fuel
> filter subject, and was wondering if there was any recent news
> regarding this subject. I perused several Matronics lists and found
> pros and cons on the subject. I have then in my fuel lines down to the
> header tank, and have been taxiing my plane with no problems so far. I
> would like to install another after the header tank, which is behind
> the seat, but before the auxiliary fuel pump. It seems that locally
the
> Purolators are no longer available, nor do they show up on Purolators
> website, and everyone tries to sell me a Mr. Gasket look-alike, but
> they are of VERY poor quality compared to the Purolator product. So,
> can anybody shed some new light on this subject? I'd really like to
see
> what the filter is trapping, and don't like the idea of those cheap
> plastic automotive filters.
>
> Lynn
>
>
________________________________ Message 20
____________________________________
Time: 02:29:37 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: fabric temp/ paint
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Did you reinforce the trailing edge of the wing with 3/8" aluminum
tubing per the later Classic IV manual? I did and I used 310F for all
my shrinking.
Lynn
On Saturday, January 21, 2006, at 05:15 PM, Alan & Linda Daniels wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
> <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
> On the 5,6,7 I use 325/350 in most places. On cold days the fabric
> seems
> a little loose when I didn't fully shrink. The trailing edge of the
> wing
> seems to be the place you have to watch. The Poly system is dead
> simple,
> but there are a few tricks. Were in Oregon are you, I am in eastern
> Oregon.
>
> Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
________________________________ Message 21
____________________________________
Time: 02:30:39 PM PST US
From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: fabric temp/ paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
<roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Alan I am in North Bend (oth) next to Coos Bay. Ron NB Or
do not archive
>From: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: fabric temp/ paint
>Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:15:15 -0700
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
><aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
>On the 5,6,7 I use 325/350 in most places. On cold days the fabric
seems
>a little loose when I didn't fully shrink. The trailing edge of the
wing
>seems to be the place you have to watch. The Poly system is dead
simple,
>but there are a few tricks. Were in Oregon are you, I am in eastern
Oregon
>
>
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________________________________ Message 22
____________________________________
Time: 02:37:30 PM PST US
From: "Jay Fabian" <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 4-1200 For Sale
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian"
<experimental208nd@comcast.net>
Hi List,
I just wanted to let everyone know that I am selling my 2001 Kitfox
4-1200 .
Here are a few of the specs:
I am in Mass. It is a Kitfox 4-1200, 912UL, 135 hours TT, 3 blade warp
drive
ground adj, BRS, oil cooler, baggage sack, Tundra tires, matco tail
wheel,
Microair radio, transponder,GPS,Intercom, ELT, blue and wht paint ,
Built in 2001,
Bubble doors , windsheild, and turtledeck. Wheelan strobes and Nav
lights,
droop
tips,Speed mods....
Asking $37,000.
I have pics if needed.
Any other questions just let me know,
Thanks
Jay Fabian
________________________________ Message 23
____________________________________
Time: 02:45:39 PM PST US
From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Jimmy Franklin aerobatic video
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
<roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
I have saved to my desktop the video of Jimmy Franklin doing
aerobatics in
the Skystar Speedster. It is on lazair.com under kitfox videos. If
anyone
has not seen this I think you will be amazed. I hope he is still doing
these
graceful moves. Can anyone remember who the pilots were that had the
mishap
up north last year? It seems that somewhere in Canada we lost a former
Kifox aerobatic pilot while performing in another aircraft.
I purchased the Kitfox vids that were available a while back and enjoy
all
I can see. Soon I hope to post some of our coast as seen through the
eyes
of a Kitfox. I hope it's not seen as heiracy, but lazair is the only
place
to post, and view, video I think. Ron North Bend Oregon
________________________________ Message 24
____________________________________
Time: 02:51:00 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Paint
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
I used the Polyfiber products throughout, with their enamel for the
metal and f'glas parts. The enamel must be shot over their epoxy
primer. In the case of my flaperon horn brackets, I got this advice:
Shoot the brackets with epoxy primer, then while it is still wet, shoot
with polybrush. Shooting into the wet primer makes a transition from
the epoxy primer to the polybrush, and eventually the polyspray, and
finally the polytone. I chose to do this because I wanted to rivet the
brackets on before shooting anything on my wings, so that my brackets
would be a matching color, and the rivet heads would be painted. I've
seen too many that were riveted on after painting and they don't look
so good.
Lynn
On Friday, January 20, 2006, at 05:30 PM, Gary Olson wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
>
> I am starting to plan for the painting of my S7. I have read the
> Polyfiber manual completely and am wondering what kind of success
> everyone else has had using this method. What kind of process would
> you guys recomend to paint the aluminum and fiberglass? I am going to
> use a Polytone paint. How much is required to do the job?
>
> Thanks,
> Gary Olson
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your
> hands ASAP.
>
>
________________________________ Message 25
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Time: 03:02:36 PM PST US
From: "Ronald K. Stevens" <rkstevens@verizon.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Jimmy Franklin aerobatic video
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ronald K. Stevens"
<rkstevens@verizon.net>
Unfortunately, Jimmy Franklin was killed along with another pilot during
an
airshow performance this past year.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron schick
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:45 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Jimmy Franklin aerobatic video
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
<roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
I have saved to my desktop the video of Jimmy Franklin doing
aerobatics in
the Skystar Speedster. It is on lazair.com under kitfox videos. If
anyone
has not seen this I think you will be amazed. I hope he is still doing
these
graceful moves. Can anyone remember who the pilots were that had the
mishap
up north last year? It seems that somewhere in Canada we lost a former
Kifox aerobatic pilot while performing in another aircraft.
I purchased the Kitfox vids that were available a while back and enjoy
all
I can see. Soon I hope to post some of our coast as seen through the
eyes
of a Kitfox. I hope it's not seen as heiracy, but lazair is the only
place
to post, and view, video I think. Ron North Bend Oregon
________________________________ Message 26
____________________________________
Time: 03:10:45 PM PST US
From: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Jimmy Franklin aerobatic video
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
That is a great video...I was at Osh when he did that show. Jimmy was
killed
last year at an airshow in a collision.
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
________________________________ Message 27
____________________________________
Time: 03:10:45 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Paint
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Don-
I bought an HVLP conversion gun through F&M Enterprises, who were the
Polyfiber people several years ago out in El Toro, CA. This gun uses a
regular air compressor but you regulate it down to 10 psi. It worked
beautifully for shooting my plane. It has a hopper/gravity feed and
holds about 20 oz. I bought it when I was living in California back in
about 2000. My gun is a model 38308 by Central Pneumatic, and was
distributed by Harbor Freight Tools. Cost was about $70. There are
probably others out there by now. The beauty of it is you use up every
drop of paint in the hopper, and if you run short pour in another ounce
and finish the job.
Lynn
On Saturday, January 21, 2006, at 12:11 PM, Donald STEVENSON wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON
> <shericom@rogers.com>
>
> Hi Smokey, I've just read your post and since I will
> be ready to paint my M4 Speedster in the spring I have
> a question or two for you. What model is your kit, and
> what type of HLVP unit did you use, was it a complete
> system or just a gun using a standard air compressor.
> I have a large compressor and am not sure if I only
> need to purchase a HVLP gun (if such a thing even
> exists)
> Any comments you may have would be a great help. Don
> Stevenson, Caledon Ontario Canada.
> --- Brett Walmsley <N93HJ@numail.org> wrote:
>
________________________________ Message 28
____________________________________
Time: 03:10:46 PM PST US
From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Jimmy Franklin aerobatic video
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Ron,
It was Jimmie doing the "Masters of Disasters" routine.. a
simulation of a
WWII dog fight... with another airshow legend Bobby Younkin.. and Jim
LeRoy
flying "Bulldog" Both Jimmie and Younkin died in a midair...
Have a Safe New Year !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ron schick
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:45 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Jimmy Franklin aerobatic video
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
<roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
I have saved to my desktop the video of Jimmy Franklin doing
aerobatics in
the Skystar Speedster. It is on lazair.com under kitfox videos. If
anyone
has not seen this I think you will be amazed. I hope he is still doing
these
graceful moves. Can anyone remember who the pilots were that had the
mishap
up north last year? It seems that somewhere in Canada we lost a former
Kifox aerobatic pilot while performing in another aircraft.
I purchased the Kitfox vids that were available a while back and enjoy
all
I can see. Soon I hope to post some of our coast as seen through the
eyes
of a Kitfox. I hope it's not seen as heiracy, but lazair is the only
place
to post, and view, video I think. Ron North Bend Oregon
________________________________ Message 29
____________________________________
Time: 03:20:18 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: paint hoses- water trap
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Hi Ron-
On my HVLP conversion gun, I used 25 feet of hose to lower temperature
of compressed air, then through a regulator/filter set to 40 psi, then
15 feet of hose to gun which has an attached pressure regulator set to
10 psi...works great. Watch that humidity, Ron...Polyfiber tells me no
higher than 70%. I can't imagine Oregon at less than that...is it?
Lynn
On Saturday, January 21, 2006, at 04:32 PM, ron schick wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
> I have 50' hose to water trap which I leave barely hissing then 50'
> more to
> workshop then 25' to gun. The first 50' acts as a condensor for water
> separation. 50-60 psi at compressor gives good consistant gun
> pressure.
> HVLP may require a secondary tank near gun. Raining cats and dogs in
> Oregon, but painting anyway. Ron NB Or
>
>
________________________________ Message 30
____________________________________
Time: 04:13:27 PM PST US
From: "Rich Williamson" <rwill1@adelphia.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Who was looking for Purolator Fuel Filter??
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rich Williamson"
<rwill1@adelphia.net>
http://mikes.automated-shops.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid3D1456&p_catid=3D133
________________________________ Message 31
____________________________________
Time: 04:47:11 PM PST US
From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Jimmy Franklin aerobatic video
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
<roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
I was afraid to hear the replys. We have indeed lost one of the greats.
When I pull the first loop in my speedster I will be poorly attempting
his
style. Thanks for the info. Ron NB Or
do not archive
>From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Jimmy Franklin aerobatic video
>Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:08:00 -0700
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
>Ron,
> It was Jimmie doing the "Masters of Disasters" routine.. a
simulation of a
>WWII dog fight... with another airshow legend Bobby Younkin.. and Jim
LeRoy
>flying "Bulldog" Both Jimmie and Younkin died in a midair...
>
>Have a Safe New Year !!
>John & Debra McBean
>www.sportplanellc.com
>"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ron schick
>Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:45 PM
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Jimmy Franklin aerobatic video
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
<roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
> I have saved to my desktop the video of Jimmy Franklin doing
aerobatics
>in
>the Skystar Speedster. It is on lazair.com under kitfox videos. If
anyone
>has not seen this I think you will be amazed. I hope he is still doing
>these
>graceful moves. Can anyone remember who the pilots were that had the
>mishap
>up north last year? It seems that somewhere in Canada we lost a former
>Kifox aerobatic pilot while performing in another aircraft.
> I purchased the Kitfox vids that were available a while back and
enjoy
>all
>I can see. Soon I hope to post some of our coast as seen through the
eyes
>of a Kitfox. I hope it's not seen as heiracy, but lazair is the only
place
>to post, and view, video I think. Ron North Bend Oregon
>
>
________________________________ Message 32
____________________________________
Time: 05:20:03 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Who was looking for Purolator Fuel Filter??
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Thanks for the address, Rich.
Lynn
do not archive
On Saturday, January 21, 2006, at 07:12 PM, Rich Williamson wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rich Williamson"
> <rwill1@adelphia.net>
>
> http://mikes.automated-shops.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/
> st_prod.html?p_prodid=3D1456&p_catid=3D133
>
>
________________________________ Message 33
____________________________________
Time: 05:31:22 PM PST US
From: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: fabric temp/ paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
I went to 350 everywhere.
I also put stiffeners in trailing edge of wing.
----- Original Message -----
From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: fabric temp/ paint
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
> What temps have been used to shrink the fabric? I could not bring
myself
> to
> go 350 on the fuselage as it was starting to deform the longerons.
now I
> am
> ready for final shrinking on the tail group and want it as tight as
> possible.
> I used almost one gallon of polybrush on fuselage, and almost as
much
> polyspray. The white however covered well with the first coat and the
> second coat was a formality. barely over a half gallon. Is there any
> advantage to more color? I have HVLP but used my old bottom feeder
for
> this
> as I have more experience with the older style. Not a technique for
> beginers, but on autos I pull the needle way back for lots of paint,
stay
> close and move really fast. You can give another fast pass if needed
or
> move away if it went on heavy. On single stage paints this allows
> completing the coat and tying in the wet edge at the starting point.
May
> not be needed with polytone, but did it by habit. Perhaps this why
it
> covered so well. Ron NB Or
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 34
____________________________________
Time: 05:32:36 PM PST US
From: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <N93HJ@numail.org>
poly-tone
----- Original Message -----
From: "eccles" <eccles@Chartermi.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:08 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Paint
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "eccles" <eccles@chartermi.net>
>
> Hey guys
> jumping in with my two cents , what kind of paint are you spraying
> aerothane
> or polytone for the final coats?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Guy
Buchanan
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:48 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Paint
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
>
> At 09:11 AM 1/21/2006, you wrote:
>>I have a large compressor and am not sure if I only
>>need to purchase a HVLP gun (if such a thing even
>>exists)
>>Any comments you may have would be a great help. Don
>>Stevenson, Caledon Ontario Canada.
>
> I use the Husky HVLP gun and it seems to work well. However, if I had
to
> do
> it all over again I'd buy a more expensive professional gun. The Husky
is
> a
> pain to clean completely and I'm beginning to think cleaning it causes
> more
> wear and tear than use. I recently had to rebuild the internals
because
> some had simply worn out from assembly/ disassembly. (In particular,
the
> air cap started leaking; a bad thing for an air gun.) I'd like to find
a
> gun that's made to be used and cleaned daily over a long period of
time.
>
> gun. I installed both a water separator and then a dryer in line. I've
> never seen water in the separator so I think that was a waste of
effort.
> Here in San Diego the dryer works hard. I bought a really large one,
(the
> bowl is about 10" long and 4" diameter,) so I'd be able to do a lot of
> paint without having to dry the agent.
>
> 2) is a pressure regulator at the gun. I run 90 psi to the gun and
then
> between 25 and 40 psi at the gun. I like this system a lot better than
> using the compressor's regulator since there are no line losses.
>
>
> Guy
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 35
____________________________________
Time: 06:39:56 PM PST US
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Purolator fuel filters revisited
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Hi Lynn,
I have been uing the Purolater type glass filters since 1998 and like
them.
It was by looking at the filter that I was able to confirm that the
right
tank was sucked dry after a mis tightened fuel cap.
I am curious about the problems mentioned in the archives. Can you
elaborate a bit on what was mentioned. I have been on the list since
about
1995 and don't remember anything that discouraged my use of them.
Thanks,
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Purolator fuel filters revisited
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> Thanks, Jim-
> Maybe I'll remove the glass filters a little later on, too, but for
> now, after having re-Kreemed the tanks, I want to see what's flowing
> down to the header tank. Just for the history of it, my 1994 IV is
just
> now coming together after being owned by three previous owners, and
I'm
> the first to get it past the "bare bones" stage. Therefore, the tanks
> were virgins, and Frank Miller said last year that they should be
> re-Kreemed, so I did that. So when the time came for the first splash
> of gas, I really needed to satisfy myself that the system was clean,
> hence the glass filters. I've always had good luck with them on
> automotive installations in the past, then I began reading the
archives
> which revealed some folks having problems with them. Also, I don't
have
> a gascolator, using the header tank for that purpose, and taking my
gas
> sample from the bottom of that header tank. I ran a flow test and that
> revealed 8.5 gals. per hour gravity at the fuel inlet to the Jabiru
> fuel pump, so I'm well within the parameters for flow...way more than
> that if I turn on the aux. pump. If I do install another filter
(before
> the aux. pump) it would be to catch anything that got by the header
> tank.
>
> Lynn
>
> On Saturday, January 21, 2006, at 02:25 PM, James Shumaker wrote:
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker
>> <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
>>
>> Hi Lynn
>>
>> After years of flying with the glass purolator just before the
>> carbs, I got bored with seeing the same thing over and over. I
>> considered the screwed together glass case to be a weak point and so
>> now use a cheap STEEL automotive fuel filter. This filter is after
>> the gascolator screen and is changed annually.
>>
>> Remember, the more devices you have in line the more flow
>> restrictions.
>>
>> Jim Shumaker
>>
>>
>>
>> Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
>>
>> I just spent a few hours researching the Purolator glass in-line fuel
>> filter subject, and was wondering if there was any recent news
>> regarding this subject. I perused several Matronics lists and found
>> pros and cons on the subject. I have then in my fuel lines down to
the
>> header tank, and have been taxiing my plane with no problems so far.
I
>> would like to install another after the header tank, which is behind
>> the seat, but before the auxiliary fuel pump. It seems that locally
the
>> Purolators are no longer available, nor do they show up on Purolators
>> website, and everyone tries to sell me a Mr. Gasket look-alike, but
>> they are of VERY poor quality compared to the Purolator product. So,
>> can anybody shed some new light on this subject? I'd really like to
see
>> what the filter is trapping, and don't like the idea of those cheap
>> plastic automotive filters.
>>
>> Lynn
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 36
____________________________________
Time: 07:02:52 PM PST US
From: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: paint hoses- water trap
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
<aldaniels@fmtc.com>
The Poly stuff is a little different than many paints in that humidity
speeds the drying. I have seen people wet the floor of the paint area on
a warm day and try and spray polytone with interesting results. It
looked like there were spider webs everywhere. It was drying before it
hit the plane and caused all sorts of a mess. Blush retarder can really
help.
Lynn Matteson wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
>Hi Ron-
>On my HVLP conversion gun, I used 25 feet of hose to lower temperature
>of compressed air, then through a regulator/filter set to 40 psi, then
>15 feet of hose to gun which has an attached pressure regulator set to
>10 psi...works great. Watch that humidity, Ron...Polyfiber tells me no
>higher than 70%. I can't imagine Oregon at less than that...is it?
>
>Lynn
>
>On Saturday, January 21, 2006, at 04:32 PM, ron schick wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
>><roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>>
>>I have 50' hose to water trap which I leave barely hissing then 50'
>>more to
>>workshop then 25' to gun. The first 50' acts as a condensor for water
>>separation. 50-60 psi at compressor gives good consistant gun
>>pressure.
>>HVLP may require a secondary tank near gun. Raining cats and dogs in
>>Oregon, but painting anyway. Ron NB Or
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 37
____________________________________
Time: 07:54:53 PM PST US
From: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Drain valves
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
Yes. If you have a header tank there are called 1/8 pipe plugs.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clint
Bazzill
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Drain valves
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill"
--> <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
Can someone tell me the number for the wing tank drain valves. Thanks
________________________________ Message 38
____________________________________
Time: 08:45:46 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Purolator fuel filters revisited
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Lowell-
My original search today came up with a thread of about Oct 27, 2004,
right about the time that I first came on board here. It was in
relation to the glass fuel filters, and you were one of the
participants.
I just got done with another search, and came up with the possible
reason that I haven't been able to find the Purolator fuel filters any
more. I'll reprint what I found under the Zenith-list at matronics
dated March 24, 2005:
Start of quote:
Very recently, I referred to a search for a Purolator "See Through" Fuel
Filter in a posting.
This filter was eventually located and found to be a *Purolator Pro-Fuel
Filter*. In the Google perusal
of articles on this filter, I found that *there is a recall of this
filter series* because the
polylmer used for the housing in the suspect fuel filters may not be
compatible with ethanol
and other chemicals sometimes found in fuel systems. If the housing
leaks, you could have
a fire. In another listed instance, an aircraft builder's filter leaked
and it was on negative pressure, sucked air
and his engine quit on takeoff due to fuel starvation. Subsequent
replacement of this item was found to
be difficult as the replacement product was re-marked as Made in USA and
it was obviously made in Taiwan.
The latter didn't even exhibit the necessary quality found on the failed
original filter made in the US.
So much for the Purolator Company and their filters. I didn't want to
have misled anyone into using this
filter on their plane just because the basic concept embodied what I'd
like to have found in one..........
Pleased to have found this, but immensely disappointed that the trend of
once good products are
disappearing and being re-mfg as similiar, but inferior items from
offshore that could get you killed.
Please be aware and *do not use the Purolator Part Numbers 804, 805, 806
and NAPA
624804, 624805 and 624806 part numbers*.
End of quote.
So you see, Lowell, this is what got me to worrying again today, and
also explains why I haven't been able to find the Purolator filters
that I like so much. I bought a Mr. Gasket filter, and it was
junk...very inferior glass tube body, with rough edges where it
contacts the rubber seals, really poor imitation of the filter that
Purolator made, and it incorporated plastic end-nipples that screwed
into the end caps, rather than the one-piece, barbed end caps of the
original design, and it was made in China...(not that there's anything
wrong with that : ) )
Lynn
On Saturday, January 21, 2006, at 09:40 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt"
<lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Hi Lynn,
>
> I have been uing the Purolater type glass filters since 1998 and like
> them.
> It was by looking at the filter that I was able to confirm that the
> right
> tank was sucked dry after a mis tightened fuel cap.
>
> I am curious about the problems mentioned in the archives. Can you
> elaborate a bit on what was mentioned. I have been on the list since
> about
> 1995 and don't remember anything that discouraged my use of them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lowell
>
>
________________________________ Message 39
____________________________________
Time: 08:51:10 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: paint hoses- water trap
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
That's probably why my Polyfiber rep told me to not spray at 70%
humidity or over. I was lucky that most of my spraying was done at
about 60%, and at less than about 70 degrees...and at one point at 2
am, just to get that last coat on and done with!
Lynn
On Saturday, January 21, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Alan & Linda Daniels wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
> <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
> The Poly stuff is a little different than many paints in that humidity
> speeds the drying. I have seen people wet the floor of the paint area
> on
> a warm day and try and spray polytone with interesting results. It
> looked like there were spider webs everywhere. It was drying before it
> hit the plane and caused all sorts of a mess. Blush retarder can
really
> help.
>
>
________________________________ Message 40
____________________________________
Time: 10:41:36 PM PST US
From: James Shumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Purolator fuel filters revisited
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker
<jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Lynn
I did it for the sames reasons. Now that I've washed all the Kream
out a couple
of times there is nothing left to look at...so they have been removed.
Jim Shumaker
Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
Thanks, Jim-
Maybe I'll remove the glass filters a little later on, too, but for
now, after having re-Kreemed the tanks, I want to see what's flowing
down to the header tank. Just for the history of it, my 1994 IV is just
now coming together after being owned by three previous owners, and I'm
the first to get it past the "bare bones" stage. Therefore, the tanks
were virgins, and Frank Miller said last year that they should be
re-Kreemed, so I did that. So when the time came for the first splash
of gas, I really needed to satisfy myself that the system was clean,
hence the glass filters. I've always had good luck with them on
automotive installations in the past, then I began reading the archives
which revealed some folks having problems with them. Also, I don't have
a gascolator, using the header tank for that purpose, and taking my gas
sample from the bottom of that header tank. I ran a flow test and that
revealed 8.5 gals. per hour gravity at the fuel inlet to the Jabiru
fuel pump, so I'm well within the parameters for flow...way more than
that if I turn on the aux. pump. If I do install another filter (before
the aux. pump) it would be to catch anything that got by the header
tank.
Lynn
On Saturday, January 21, 2006, at 02:25 PM, James Shumaker wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker
>
>
> Hi Lynn
>
> After years of flying with the glass purolator just before the
> carbs, I got bored with seeing the same thing over and over. I
> considered the screwed together glass case to be a weak point and so
> now use a cheap STEEL automotive fuel filter. This filter is after
> the gascolator screen and is changed annually.
>
> Remember, the more devices you have in line the more flow
> restrictions.
>
> Jim Shumaker
>
>
> Lynn Matteson wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
>
> I just spent a few hours researching the Purolator glass in-line fuel
> filter subject, and was wondering if there was any recent news
> regarding this subject. I perused several Matronics lists and found
> pros and cons on the subject. I have then in my fuel lines down to the
> header tank, and have been taxiing my plane with no problems so far. I
> would like to install another after the header tank, which is behind
> the seat, but before the auxiliary fuel pump. It seems that locally
the
> Purolators are no longer available, nor do they show up on Purolators
> website, and everyone tries to sell me a Mr. Gasket look-alike, but
> they are of VERY poor quality compared to the Purolator product. So,
> can anybody shed some new light on this subject? I'd really like to
see
> what the filter is trapping, and don't like the idea of those cheap
> plastic automotive filters.
>
> Lynn
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
OK guys and gals here's my story, enjoy
On Jan. 11, N619RM, a Series 7 passed its FAA inspection with
only a few minor problems and today Jan 22 after 3 years and 5 months of off
and on building she took to the air for the first time. All I can say is WOW
what a solid little airplane. I guess I must have done my home work because
it flew just as straight and true as can be. To tell you the truth I was a
little worried weather all my time in a Cessna 152 was going to prepare me
well enough for flying this bird but my worries were all for not. It
actually was easier to fly that the 152. This is the most honest flying
airplane I could have hoped for. It flew just as solid as a rock. I didn't
have a heavy wing and the pitch felt good and positive. The trim tab system
on the Model 7 has good authority and is super simple to get use to. The
only thing that surprised me was in how quick it got off. I had no sooner
applied full throttle and the air speed was at 45 and we were leaving the
ground right after that. I had the trim set for take off and it started
flying when the air speed was there. I sit here typing this with a big grin
on my face. Man what a fun little airplane this is going to be. Initially I
was showing about 95 MPH in cruise but I know that will improve once I ad
the spinner on the prop and the wheel pants. Today was the payback for all
the work (actually it was a labor of love) and the waiting that was endured
and in closing I'd like to add that it would not have ever happened if not
for one person in Aberdeen, WA. Once again thank you Gary Randall.
Happy Landing
Roger Mac
N619RM/912S (now flying)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "eccles" <eccles@chartermi.net>
Congratulations Roger and i know what you are talking about,, it's hard to
really explain with words but to coin a catch phrase "Oh What A Feeling"
pretty much says it all
Steve
N642SE
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Donna and
Roger McConnell
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight Report
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
<rdmac@swbell.net>
OK guys and gals here's my story, enjoy
On Jan. 11, N619RM, a Series 7 passed its FAA inspection with
only a few minor problems and today Jan 22 after 3 years and 5 months of off
and on building she took to the air for the first time. All I can say is WOW
what a solid little airplane. I guess I must have done my home work because
it flew just as straight and true as can be. To tell you the truth I was a
little worried weather all my time in a Cessna 152 was going to prepare me
well enough for flying this bird but my worries were all for not. It
actually was easier to fly that the 152. This is the most honest flying
airplane I could have hoped for. It flew just as solid as a rock. I didn't
have a heavy wing and the pitch felt good and positive. The trim tab system
on the Model 7 has good authority and is super simple to get use to. The
only thing that surprised me was in how quick it got off. I had no sooner
applied full throttle and the air speed was at 45 and we were leaving the
ground right after that. I had the trim set for take off and it started
flying when the air speed was there. I sit here typing this with a big grin
on my face. Man what a fun little airplane this is going to be. Initially I
was showing about 95 MPH in cruise but I know that will improve once I ad
the spinner on the prop and the wheel pants. Today was the payback for all
the work (actually it was a labor of love) and the waiting that was endured
and in closing I'd like to add that it would not have ever happened if not
for one person in Aberdeen, WA. Once again thank you Gary Randall.
Happy Landing
Roger Mac
N619RM/912S (now flying)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michael burkhardt <mjbavid@yahoo.com>
Roger, I am a building a series 7, someday it will be
my turn. Congrats on the first flight! Are you
satisfied with the 912s performance? Regqards, Mike---
Donna and Roger McConnell <rdmac@swbell.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger
> McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
> OK guys and gals here's my story, enjoy
>
>
>
> On Jan. 11, N619RM, a Series 7 passed
> its FAA inspection with
> only a few minor problems and today Jan 22 after 3
> years and 5 months of off
> and on building she took to the air for the first
> time. All I can say is WOW
> what a solid little airplane. I guess I must have
> done my home work because
> it flew just as straight and true as can be. To tell
> you the truth I was a
> little worried weather all my time in a Cessna 152
> was going to prepare me
> well enough for flying this bird but my worries were
> all for not. It
> actually was easier to fly that the 152. This is the
> most honest flying
> airplane I could have hoped for. It flew just as
> solid as a rock. I didn't
> have a heavy wing and the pitch felt good and
> positive. The trim tab system
> on the Model 7 has good authority and is super
> simple to get use to. The
> only thing that surprised me was in how quick it got
> off. I had no sooner
> applied full throttle and the air speed was at 45
> and we were leaving the
> ground right after that. I had the trim set for take
> off and it started
> flying when the air speed was there. I sit here
> typing this with a big grin
> on my face. Man what a fun little airplane this is
> going to be. Initially I
> was showing about 95 MPH in cruise but I know that
> will improve once I ad
> the spinner on the prop and the wheel pants. Today
> was the payback for all
> the work (actually it was a labor of love) and the
> waiting that was endured
> and in closing I'd like to add that it would not
> have ever happened if not
> for one person in Aberdeen, WA. Once again thank you
> Gary Randall.
>
>
>
> Happy Landing
>
> Roger Mac
>
> N619RM/912S (now flying)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Just a note to say thanks for all the input on 912 carb venting.
You all sure gave me a lot to think about.
Currently, I am in the process of changing my engine mount shock
pads. This is one heck of a chore. Anyone contemplating doing
this may want to contact me and perhaps I can save you some
pain. So far, I have removed the exhaust system and most of the
coolant lines. I was surprised to find that even after 11 years
and 340 engine hours the pads are in good condition. They look
bad on the surface, but when I took them out of the mounts they
are ok except a very thin layer of deteriation on the surface. I
am changing them anyway since I have them apart.
Anyone know how long these things can last?
Jimmie
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt"
<lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
>California Power Systems has them:
>
>http://www.800-airwolf.com/
>
>Click on online store, then click on search. You are looking for
carb pans
>
>Lowell
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:31 PM
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell"
<jablackwell@ev1.net>
>>
>>
>> No trays with mine. Trays sound like the answer to my
concerns.
>> Anyone know where to get them?
>>
>> Jimmie
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:46:41 -0700
>>
>>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
>> <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>>>
>>>Jimmie,
>>>Do you have trays under your carbs? I was provided two little
>> catch trays
>>>that fit close up under the carbs and are fitted with hose
>> fittings to carry
>>>overflow down and out the cowl. They are kind of a nuisance at
>> times, but
>>>should do the job.
>>>
>>>Randy = Series 5/7 - 912S
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>>>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> jablackwell
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:58 PM
>>>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
>>>
>>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell"
>> <jablackwell@ev1.net>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>This has probably been addressed on the list before, so hope
the
>>>old timers will forgive me. It occured to me that the vent
tube
>>>on the bing carbs present a fire hazard. Should the float
stick
>>>on either carb, then gasoline would be flowing out of the vent
>>>tube and on the Kitfox would likely come in contact with the
>>>exhaust pipes and muffler. I would not want to be in my Kitfox
>> if
>>>this happened.
>>>
>>>Has there been any instances of a fire because of sticking
>>>floats? More importantly, does anyone know of a solution? Not
>>>flying is not an option.
>>>
>>>Jimmie
>>>
>>>Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dan Billingsley <dan@azshowersolutions.com>
Congratulations Roger!
Yours is a time I look forward to as I begin my quest. I am beginning a build
on a Kitfox Lite Squared (Same as the IV). I appreciate your comments comparing
the C152 as I think we all anticipate what flying these labors of love will
really be like. I'm sure, however, there really is no comparison :>)
Enjoy,
Dan Billingsley
Mesa, AZ
www.azshowersolutions.com/Kitfox1.html
Donna and Roger McConnell <rdmac@swbell.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
OK guys and gals here's my story, enjoy
On Jan. 11, N619RM, a Series 7 passed its FAA inspection with
only a few minor problems and today Jan 22 after 3 years and 5 months of off
and on building she took to the air for the first time. All I can say is WOW
what a solid little airplane. I guess I must have done my home work because
it flew just as straight and true as can be. To tell you the truth I was a
little worried weather all my time in a Cessna 152 was going to prepare me
well enough for flying this bird but my worries were all for not. It
actually was easier to fly that the 152. This is the most honest flying
airplane I could have hoped for. It flew just as solid as a rock. I didn't
have a heavy wing and the pitch felt good and positive. The trim tab system
on the Model 7 has good authority and is super simple to get use to. The
only thing that surprised me was in how quick it got off. I had no sooner
applied full throttle and the air speed was at 45 and we were leaving the
ground right after that. I had the trim set for take off and it started
flying when the air speed was there. I sit here typing this with a big grin
on my face. Man what a fun little airplane this is going to be. Initially I
was showing about 95 MPH in cruise but I know that will improve once I ad
the spinner on the prop and the wheel pants. Today was the payback for all
the work (actually it was a labor of love) and the waiting that was endured
and in closing I'd like to add that it would not have ever happened if not
for one person in Aberdeen, WA. Once again thank you Gary Randall.
Happy Landing
Roger Mac
N619RM/912S (now flying)
Message 9
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Mike,
Oh yes, extremely satisfied. When compared with what I've been use
to, I feel like this plane has twice the power. The Rotax is very smooth and
even with a GSC prop it gets with the program surprisingly fast. I have it
pitched at 18 degrees which is what the prop manufacturer recommends. I
don't have any numbers for full power cruise but on the ground I saw at
least 5400 rpm. Keep working on your 7, you will love the results.
Roger
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of michael
burkhardt
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First Flight Report
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michael burkhardt <mjbavid@yahoo.com>
Roger, I am a building a series 7, someday it will be
my turn. Congrats on the first flight! Are you
satisfied with the 912s performance? Regqards, Mike---
Donna and Roger McConnell <rdmac@swbell.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger
> McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
> OK guys and gals here's my story, enjoy
>
>
>
> On Jan. 11, N619RM, a Series 7 passed
> its FAA inspection with
> only a few minor problems and today Jan 22 after 3
> years and 5 months of off
> and on building she took to the air for the first
> time. All I can say is WOW
> what a solid little airplane. I guess I must have
> done my home work because
> it flew just as straight and true as can be. To tell
> you the truth I was a
> little worried weather all my time in a Cessna 152
> was going to prepare me
> well enough for flying this bird but my worries were
> all for not. It
> actually was easier to fly that the 152. This is the
> most honest flying
> airplane I could have hoped for. It flew just as
> solid as a rock. I didn't
> have a heavy wing and the pitch felt good and
> positive. The trim tab system
> on the Model 7 has good authority and is super
> simple to get use to. The
> only thing that surprised me was in how quick it got
> off. I had no sooner
> applied full throttle and the air speed was at 45
> and we were leaving the
> ground right after that. I had the trim set for take
> off and it started
> flying when the air speed was there. I sit here
> typing this with a big grin
> on my face. Man what a fun little airplane this is
> going to be. Initially I
> was showing about 95 MPH in cruise but I know that
> will improve once I ad
> the spinner on the prop and the wheel pants. Today
> was the payback for all
> the work (actually it was a labor of love) and the
> waiting that was endured
> and in closing I'd like to add that it would not
> have ever happened if not
> for one person in Aberdeen, WA. Once again thank you
> Gary Randall.
>
>
>
> Happy Landing
>
> Roger Mac
>
> N619RM/912S (now flying)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com>
DON'T KNOW OW LONG THEY LAST, BUT I ALSO CHANGED MINE, WHAT A JOB.
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: jablackwell<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>>
Just a note to say thanks for all the input on 912 carb venting.
You all sure gave me a lot to think about.
Currently, I am in the process of changing my engine mount shock
pads. This is one heck of a chore. Anyone contemplating doing
this may want to contact me and perhaps I can save you some
pain. So far, I have removed the exhaust system and most of the
coolant lines. I was surprised to find that even after 11 years
and 340 engine hours the pads are in good condition. They look
bad on the surface, but when I took them out of the mounts they
are ok except a very thin layer of deteriation on the surface. I
am changing them anyway since I have them apart.
Anyone know how long these things can last?
Jimmie
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net<mailto:lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:07:51 -0800
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt"
<lcfitt@sbcglobal.net<mailto:lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>>
>
>California Power Systems has them:
>
>http://www.800-airwolf.com/
>
>Click on online store, then click on search. You are looking for
carb pans
>
>Lowell
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>>
>Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:31 PM
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell"
<jablackwell@ev1.net<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>>
>>
>>
>> No trays with mine. Trays sound like the answer to my
concerns.
>> Anyone know where to get them?
>>
>> Jimmie
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com<mailto:rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>>
>> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:46:41 -0700
>>
>>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
>> <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com<mailto:rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>>
>>>
>>>Jimmie,
>>>Do you have trays under your carbs? I was provided two little
>> catch trays
>>>that fit close up under the carbs and are fitted with hose
>> fittings to carry
>>>overflow down and out the cowl. They are kind of a nuisance at
>> times, but
>>>should do the job.
>>>
>>>Randy =3D Series 5/7 - 912S
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com>
>>>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> jablackwell
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:58 PM
>>>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>>>Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
>>>
>>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell"
>> <jablackwell@ev1.net<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>This has probably been addressed on the list before, so hope
the
>>>old timers will forgive me. It occured to me that the vent
tube
>>>on the bing carbs present a fire hazard. Should the float
stick
>>>on either carb, then gasoline would be flowing out of the vent
>>>tube and on the Kitfox would likely come in contact with the
>>>exhaust pipes and muffler. I would not want to be in my Kitfox
>> if
>>>this happened.
>>>
>>>Has there been any instances of a fire because of sticking
>>>floats? More importantly, does anyone know of a solution? Not
>>>flying is not an option.
>>>
>>>Jimmie
>>>
>>>Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Congrads Roger! The accomplishment as well as the test piloting is
something to be proud of. I have around forty hours in my Avid I and chose
to fly it today instead of the Cessna. Then it was back to the Kitfox and
polybrush. It is all a labor of love, but mostly I love to fly. I'm sure
your new Kitfox will be everything you've dreamed of.
Ron NB Ore 117AF flying 67779
sitting 541KF building
do not archive
>From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight Report
>Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:35:45 -0600
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
><rdmac@swbell.net>
>
>OK guys and gals here's my story, enjoy
>
>
> On Jan. 11, N619RM, a Series 7 passed its FAA inspection with
>only a few minor problems and today Jan 22 after 3 years and 5 months of
>off
>and on building she took to the air for the first time. All I can say is
>WOW
>what a solid little airplane. I guess I must have done my home work because
>it flew just as straight and true as can be. To tell you the truth I was a
>little worried weather all my time in a Cessna 152 was going to prepare me
>well enough for flying this bird but my worries were all for not. It
>actually was easier to fly that the 152. This is the most honest flying
>airplane I could have hoped for. It flew just as solid as a rock. I didn't
>have a heavy wing and the pitch felt good and positive. The trim tab system
>on the Model 7 has good authority and is super simple to get use to. The
>only thing that surprised me was in how quick it got off. I had no sooner
>applied full throttle and the air speed was at 45 and we were leaving the
>ground right after that. I had the trim set for take off and it started
>flying when the air speed was there. I sit here typing this with a big grin
>on my face. Man what a fun little airplane this is going to be. Initially I
>was showing about 95 MPH in cruise but I know that will improve once I ad
>the spinner on the prop and the wheel pants. Today was the payback for all
>the work (actually it was a labor of love) and the waiting that was endured
>and in closing I'd like to add that it would not have ever happened if not
>for one person in Aberdeen, WA. Once again thank you Gary Randall.
>
>
> Happy Landing
>
> Roger Mac
>
> N619RM/912S (now flying)
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Roger,
Congrats!!!! We know the feeling.....
Have a Safe New Year !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Donna and Roger
McConnell
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 5:36 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight Report
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
<rdmac@swbell.net>
OK guys and gals here's my story, enjoy
On Jan. 11, N619RM, a Series 7 passed its FAA inspection with
only a few minor problems and today Jan 22 after 3 years and 5 months of off
and on building she took to the air for the first time. All I can say is WOW
what a solid little airplane. I guess I must have done my home work because
it flew just as straight and true as can be. To tell you the truth I was a
little worried weather all my time in a Cessna 152 was going to prepare me
well enough for flying this bird but my worries were all for not. It
actually was easier to fly that the 152. This is the most honest flying
airplane I could have hoped for. It flew just as solid as a rock. I didn't
have a heavy wing and the pitch felt good and positive. The trim tab system
on the Model 7 has good authority and is super simple to get use to. The
only thing that surprised me was in how quick it got off. I had no sooner
applied full throttle and the air speed was at 45 and we were leaving the
ground right after that. I had the trim set for take off and it started
flying when the air speed was there. I sit here typing this with a big grin
on my face. Man what a fun little airplane this is going to be. Initially I
was showing about 95 MPH in cruise but I know that will improve once I ad
the spinner on the prop and the wheel pants. Today was the payback for all
the work (actually it was a labor of love) and the waiting that was endured
and in closing I'd like to add that it would not have ever happened if not
for one person in Aberdeen, WA. Once again thank you Gary Randall.
Happy Landing
Roger Mac
N619RM/912S (now flying)
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Carb Venting |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Floran Higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net>
If I remember correctly, Skystar recomminded that they be changed annually.
Floran H.
----- Original Message -----
From: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com>
>
> DON'T KNOW OW LONG THEY LAST, BUT I ALSO CHANGED MINE, WHAT A JOB.
>
> Ray
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jablackwell<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell"
> <jablackwell@ev1.net<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>>
>
> Just a note to say thanks for all the input on 912 carb venting.
> You all sure gave me a lot to think about.
>
> Currently, I am in the process of changing my engine mount shock
> pads. This is one heck of a chore. Anyone contemplating doing
> this may want to contact me and perhaps I can save you some
> pain. So far, I have removed the exhaust system and most of the
> coolant lines. I was surprised to find that even after 11 years
> and 340 engine hours the pads are in good condition. They look
> bad on the surface, but when I took them out of the mounts they
> are ok except a very thin layer of deteriation on the surface. I
> am changing them anyway since I have them apart.
>
> Anyone know how long these things can last?
>
> Jimmie
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net<mailto:lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:07:51 -0800
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt"
> <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net<mailto:lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>>
> >
> >California Power Systems has them:
> >
> >http://www.800-airwolf.com/
> >
> >Click on online store, then click on search. You are looking for
> carb pans
> >
> >Lowell
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>>
> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>>
> >Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:31 PM
> >Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
> >
> >
> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell"
> <jablackwell@ev1.net<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>>
> >>
> >>
> >> No trays with mine. Trays sound like the answer to my
> concerns.
> >> Anyone know where to get them?
> >>
> >> Jimmie
> >>
> >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >> From: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
> <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com<mailto:rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>>
> >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:46:41 -0700
> >>
> >>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
> >> <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com<mailto:rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>>
> >>>
> >>>Jimmie,
> >>>Do you have trays under your carbs? I was provided two little
> >> catch trays
> >>>that fit close up under the carbs and are fitted with hose
> >> fittings to carry
> >>>overflow down and out the cowl. They are kind of a nuisance at
> >> times, but
> >>>should do the job.
> >>>
> >>>Randy =3D Series 5/7 - 912S
> >>>
> >>>.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From:
> owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com>
> >>>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> >> jablackwell
> >>>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:58 PM
> >>>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >>>Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 Carb Venting
> >>>
> >>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell"
> >> <jablackwell@ev1.net<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>This has probably been addressed on the list before, so hope
> the
> >>>old timers will forgive me. It occured to me that the vent
> tube
> >>>on the bing carbs present a fire hazard. Should the float
> stick
> >>>on either carb, then gasoline would be flowing out of the vent
> >>>tube and on the Kitfox would likely come in contact with the
> >>>exhaust pipes and muffler. I would not want to be in my Kitfox
> >> if
> >>>this happened.
> >>>
> >>>Has there been any instances of a fire because of sticking
> >>>floats? More importantly, does anyone know of a solution? Not
> >>>flying is not an option.
> >>>
> >>>Jimmie
> >>>
> >>>Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
> Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
>
>
>
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| Subject: | First Flight Report |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Great first flight report Roger. Congratulations! I hope you have that grin
on your face on each and every flight from now on. Thanks for letting the
group know.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donna and Roger
McConnell
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight Report
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
<rdmac@swbell.net>
OK guys and gals here's my story, enjoy
On Jan. 11, N619RM, a Series 7 passed its FAA inspection with
only a few minor problems and today Jan 22 after 3 years and 5 months of off
and on building she took to the air for the first time. All I can say is WOW
what a solid little airplane. I guess I must have done my home work because
it flew just as straight and true as can be. To tell you the truth I was a
little worried weather all my time in a Cessna 152 was going to prepare me
well enough for flying this bird but my worries were all for not. It
actually was easier to fly that the 152. This is the most honest flying
airplane I could have hoped for. It flew just as solid as a rock. I didn't
have a heavy wing and the pitch felt good and positive. The trim tab system
on the Model 7 has good authority and is super simple to get use to. The
only thing that surprised me was in how quick it got off. I had no sooner
applied full throttle and the air speed was at 45 and we were leaving the
ground right after that. I had the trim set for take off and it started
flying when the air speed was there. I sit here typing this with a big grin
on my face. Man what a fun little airplane this is going to be. Initially I
was showing about 95 MPH in cruise but I know that will improve once I ad
the spinner on the prop and the wheel pants. Today was the payback for all
the work (actually it was a labor of love) and the waiting that was endured
and in closing I'd like to add that it would not have ever happened if not
for one person in Aberdeen, WA. Once again thank you Gary Randall.
Happy Landing
Roger Mac
N619RM/912S (now flying)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
Good onya Roger, enjoy every moment. Its a great experience and one you
will remember for the rest of your life.
Kind Regards
Graeme
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don
Pearsall
Sent: Monday, 23 January 2006 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: First Flight Report
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
<donpearsall@comcast.net>
Great first flight report Roger. Congratulations! I hope you have that
grin
on your face on each and every flight from now on. Thanks for letting
the
group know.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donna and
Roger
McConnell
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight Report
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
<rdmac@swbell.net>
OK guys and gals here's my story, enjoy
On Jan. 11, N619RM, a Series 7 passed its FAA inspection
with
only a few minor problems and today Jan 22 after 3 years and 5 months of
off
and on building she took to the air for the first time. All I can say is
WOW
what a solid little airplane. I guess I must have done my home work
because
it flew just as straight and true as can be. To tell you the truth I was
a
little worried weather all my time in a Cessna 152 was going to prepare
me
well enough for flying this bird but my worries were all for not. It
actually was easier to fly that the 152. This is the most honest flying
airplane I could have hoped for. It flew just as solid as a rock. I
didn't
have a heavy wing and the pitch felt good and positive. The trim tab
system
on the Model 7 has good authority and is super simple to get use to. The
only thing that surprised me was in how quick it got off. I had no
sooner
applied full throttle and the air speed was at 45 and we were leaving
the
ground right after that. I had the trim set for take off and it started
flying when the air speed was there. I sit here typing this with a big
grin
on my face. Man what a fun little airplane this is going to be.
Initially I
was showing about 95 MPH in cruise but I know that will improve once I
ad
the spinner on the prop and the wheel pants. Today was the payback for
all
the work (actually it was a labor of love) and the waiting that was
endured
and in closing I'd like to add that it would not have ever happened if
not
for one person in Aberdeen, WA. Once again thank you Gary Randall.
Happy Landing
Roger Mac
N619RM/912S (now flying)
--
20/01/2006
--
20/01/2006
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tom Tomlin" <ThomasTomlin@comcast.net>
Hoooraaahh for you Roger. That brings back great memories of last June.
The best is yet to come.
Tom Tomlin
IV Speedster
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