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1. 12:25 AM - Sykstar- does anyone have any news on what is happening? (harry tucker)
2. 01:02 AM - SV: First Flight Report (Michel Verheughe)
3. 03:34 AM - Re: Sykstar- does anyone have any news on what is happening? (michael burkhardt)
4. 05:25 AM - Re: SV: First Flight Report (Lynn Matteson)
5. 06:47 AM - Re: First Flight Report (Paul Seehafer)
6. 07:34 AM - Paint (and 2 gallons for sale) (Mark Anliker)
7. 07:34 AM - Re: First Flight Report (Guy Buchanan)
8. 09:13 AM - Last call for Sport Pilot Amphib comments! (Paul Seehafer)
9. 09:33 AM - Re: fabric temp/ paint (Randy Daughenbaugh)
10. 12:29 PM - Skystar Will Be Back Soon. (Harris, Robert)
11. 12:33 PM - Re: First Flight Report (Fred Shiple)
12. 01:53 PM - Re: Skystar Will Be Back Soon. (Alan & Linda Daniels)
13. 02:31 PM - Re: Skystar Will Be Back Soon. (Randy Daughenbaugh)
14. 03:11 PM - Re: Skystar Will Be Back Soon. (Don Pearsall)
15. 03:26 PM - Re: Skystar Will Be Back Soon. (Steve Zakreski)
16. 04:22 PM - Re: Skystar Will Be Back Soon. (Alan & Linda Daniels)
17. 05:28 PM - Re: Skystar Will Be Back Soon. (Frank Miles)
18. 05:30 PM - Re: Skystar Will Be Back Soon. (michael burkhardt)
19. 05:44 PM - header tank (Eric)
20. 06:08 PM - Re: Skystar Will Be Back Soon. (Alan & Linda Daniels)
21. 06:36 PM - Re: Skystar Will Be Back Soon. (Frank Miles)
22. 06:49 PM - Some kind of Rendezvous (jdmcbean)
23. 06:49 PM - barnstorming (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
24. 06:51 PM - Denney description of model diffs (jack bell)
25. 08:03 PM - Re: fabric temp/ paint (Lynn Matteson)
26. 08:45 PM - Re: fabric temp/ paint (kurt schrader)
27. 08:45 PM - Re: First Flight Report (Gary Randall)
28. 09:19 PM - Re: Skystar Will Be Back Soon. (Steve Zakreski)
29. 10:42 PM - Re: Skystar Will Be Back Soon. (jdmcbean)
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| Subject: | Sykstar- does anyone have any news on what is happening? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "harry tucker" <harry@htucker.com>
We are stuck over in Africa and have not been able to find out what is
happening. Does anyone have any news?
Harry Tucker
Email: harry@htucker.com
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| Subject: | First Flight Report |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Donna and Roger McConnell [rdmac@swbell.net]
> today Jan 22 after 3 years and 5 months of off
> and on building she took to the air for the first time.
Congratulations, Roger!
I also flew yesterday but ... in certainly worse conditions that you. Here is a
photo of it:
http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/Tonsberg.jpg
We've had much bad weather, here in Norway, and this was my first flight in 2006.
I just had to fly. Kitfox flying is like a drug. Actually, it is a drug!
Welcome to the club, dear new addicted! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Sykstar- does anyone have any news on what is happening? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michael burkhardt <mjbavid@yahoo.com>
Harry, All I have heard and read is on the internet or
in the magazines. Mike
--- harry tucker <harry@htucker.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "harry tucker"
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> We are stuck over in Africa and have not been able
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> happening. Does anyone have any news?
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> Harry Tucker
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight Report |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
re the drug, Michel:
My dealer has been put out of business (Skystar), but I have the
paraphernalia (the plane), and am waiting for a visit from a man with
scales (tech inspector), and eventually a visit from the Feds (FAA
inspection person), and eventually they will say it's ok to go ahead
and indulge myself in the use of this drug, as it is now perfectly
legal...what's wrong with this picture? :)
(this is all in jest, I assure you)
Lynn
On Monday, January 23, 2006, at 04:01 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
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>> From: Donna and Roger McConnell [rdmac@swbell.net]
>> today Jan 22 after 3 years and 5 months of off
>> and on building she took to the air for the first time.
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> Congratulations, Roger!
> I also flew yesterday but ... in certainly worse conditions that you.
> Here is a photo of it:
> http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/Tonsberg.jpg
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> We've had much bad weather, here in Norway, and this was my first
> flight in 2006. I just had to fly. Kitfox flying is like a drug.
> Actually, it is a drug!
> Welcome to the club, dear new addicted! :-)
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> Cheers,
> Michel
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight Report |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Congratulations Roger! I'm not surprised to hear how well you like your
plane. There's a reason thousands of these things are flying around the
world. Now you fully understand why <GRIN> Welcome to the club!!!!
Please keep us posted on your continued flight test progress.
Paul Seehafer
Central Wisconsin
Kitfox IV 912ul on amphibs
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight Report
OK guys and gals here's my story, enjoy
On Jan. 11, N619RM, a Series 7 passed its FAA inspection with
only a few minor problems and today Jan 22 after 3 years and 5 months of
off
and on building she took to the air for the first time. All I can say is
WOW
what a solid little airplane. I guess I must have done my home work
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| Subject: | Paint (and 2 gallons for sale) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark Anliker <manliker@uiuc.edu>
I used Polyfiber's Polytone on the fabric and their enamel on the hard
surfaces with good results on my Series 5. Used a couple HVLP guns from
Harbor Freight.
Also, I have some unopened, unused P-tone for sale. 1 gallon Pontiac Red,
and 1 gallon Blue (I'll have to look up the specific flavor of blue). Have
had both less than 6 months. Will sell 'em half price to someone in or
near Illinois. Can't ship. 217-898-4766.
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight Report |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 04:35 PM 1/22/2006, you wrote:
>today Jan 22 after 3 years and 5 months of off
>and on building she took to the air for the first time.
Congratulations Roger. I'm envious.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Last call for Sport Pilot Amphib comments! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Tomorrow is the deadline for us to send in our comments regarding adding
amphibians to the Light Sport Aircraft rule. We've had a good number of
positive comments so far, but it would be great to see more. So if you can
take the time to fill out an internet or fax response to the FAA, I would
really appreciate it. This could be important to any of us that might one
day want to fly an amphib LSA. But it is particularly important for the
older seaplane pilots that have been flying amphibs for years, but are tired
of paying thousands to maintain their medicals. So lets see what we can do
to help them, as well as ourselves.
The Seaplane Pilots Association has very good information with all the
necessary links to the FAA. You can find that at
http://www.seaplanes.org/index.htm It also shows some very interesting
accident statistics of light verses heavy amphibians that is worth reading.
The FAA is specifically looking for comments as to why having amphibious
capability is safer, and how it may impact things economically.
Here is a just a brief list from my point of view after operating straight
floats and amphibs for years:
Safety - An amphibious aircraft can get fuel at airports. That is a huge
safety advantage. Non amphibious seaplanes are many times flying around low
on fuel because they can't find aircraft fuel on water. And if they choose
to haul additional fuel in cans as many do, they increase risk of explosion
or fire during even a minor impact or accident.
Safety - An amphbious aircraft is more likely to be maintained better than a
water-only seaplane. The amphibian can be kept in a protective hangar
minimizing weather related airframe and engine deterioration, and damage.
And when needed, it can be more easily repaired at an airport repair
facility that is properly staffed and equipped. A non-amphibious seaplane
is limited to dockside maintenance or repairs. That creates poor access to
many areas of the aircraft, less than ideal working conditions, parts
availability issues, and makes it difficult to find qualified repair
personnel to do the work. An amphibious aircraft avoids all these issues,
as it can be maintained and repaired just like any other land based
aircraft.
Safety - In the case of an engine failure in a light aircraft, having the
ability to land in water or on land provides the best chances of surviving
an emergency off airport landing.
Safety and Economics - Being able to utilize airport services and facilities
such as fuel, maintenance, weather computers, etc. provides the amphibian
pilot with all the advantages associated with airport facilities.
Economics - Because the amphibian pilots will be using airport facilities,
just like land based pilots they will be supporting the facilities
economically.
Economics - Manufacturers of light sport aircraft that are amphibious will
see more sales revenue than those that offer only non-amphibious seaplanes.
The majority of the population does not have access to waterfront property
in which to keep a seaplane. For this reason, few float manufacturers today
offer straight (non-amphibious) floats.
Thanks for your support!
Paul Seehafer
Central Wisconsin
Kitfox IV 912ul Amphib
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| Subject: | fabric temp/ paint |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Lynn,
No, I didn't. I am pretty sure that the series 5 manual doesn't call for.
Al (see below) uses higher temperatures and does say to watch the trailing
edge of the wing. I haven't noticed any loosening fabric though.
Randy
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: fabric temp/ paint
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Did you reinforce the trailing edge of the wing with 3/8" aluminum
tubing per the later Classic IV manual? I did and I used 310F for all
my shrinking.
Lynn
On Saturday, January 21, 2006, at 05:15 PM, Alan & Linda Daniels wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
> <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
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> On the 5,6,7 I use 325/350 in most places. On cold days the fabric
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> simple,
> but there are a few tricks. Were in Oregon are you, I am in eastern
> Oregon.
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| Subject: | Skystar Will Be Back Soon. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Skystar may be back in business by end of February 2006. I hope they have a
speedy recovery and that LSA boosts their sales.
Robert
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight Report |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
Congratulations, Roger!
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Skystar Will Be Back Soon. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
Skystar ? Kitfox for sure. It is too great a plane to keep down. I have
studied lots of planes, built or helped build 5 different brands,
inspected several as a TA, and built 3 Fox's myself. IMHO nothing else
even comes close in quality, easy of build, quality of flying ( in this
type of flying) and most importantly safety. The Kitfox family is also
the greatest, and it is a family. I know anywhere I go if I need help,
someone is close. Likewise if you need help, no mater what you are
flying if you are in eastern oregon, my place is your place, fully
equipped with a shop and hangar.
Alan & Linda
Harris, Robert wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
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>Skystar may be back in business by end of February 2006. I hope they have a
>speedy recovery and that LSA boosts their sales.
>Robert
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| Subject: | Skystar Will Be Back Soon. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Robert,
You sound like you know more than we do. Can you share more details?
Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Harris, Robert
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 1:26 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
<Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Skystar may be back in business by end of February 2006. I hope they have a
speedy recovery and that LSA boosts their sales.
Robert
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| Subject: | Skystar Will Be Back Soon. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Robert, you can't throw that out without details! Tell us what you know. Has
there been a purchase of Skystar assets? I know a group was once interested
in buying SS, but I do not know the present status.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Harris, Robert
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:26 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
<Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Skystar may be back in business by end of February 2006. I hope they have a
speedy recovery and that LSA boosts their sales.
Robert
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| Subject: | Skystar Will Be Back Soon. |
Cc: "Steve Zakreski (szakreski@shaw.ca)" <sszakreski@trane.com>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Careful.....you realize eastern Oregon is only a two hour
Kitfox flight from Calgary.
SteveZ
Calgary
>Likewise if you need help, no mater what you are
>. flying if you are in eastern Oregon, my place
> is your place, fully equipped with a shop and hangar.
SteveZ
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| Subject: | Re: Skystar Will Be Back Soon. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
Come on down. This is a great place to base out of for Idaho and Oregon
back country flying. I have a private place in the country with lots of
room to camp - even a swimming pool when it is warm-, extra cars and a
love of adventure. I am serious. We would enjoy it.
Alan
Steve Zakreski wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
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>Careful.....you realize eastern Oregon is only a two hour
>Kitfox flight from Calgary.
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>>Likewise if you need help, no mater what you are
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| Subject: | Skystar Will Be Back Soon. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Frank Miles" <f.miles.tcp.833@clearwire.net>
Just where is this place? I live at Clarkston, Washington/ Lewiston, Idaho
(all the same) and have a daughter at Payette, Idaho on the Oregon border.
Several Kitfoxes up here. Maybe we could arrange some kind of rendezvous?
Are you familiar with a fly-in Bed and Breakfast near Kimberly. I haven't
been there but might be an interesting for a meet. Frank Miles
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
Daniels
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
Come on down. This is a great place to base out of for Idaho and Oregon
back country flying. I have a private place in the country with lots of
room to camp - even a swimming pool when it is warm-, extra cars and a
love of adventure. I am serious. We would enjoy it.
Alan
Steve Zakreski wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
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>Careful.....you realize eastern Oregon is only a two hour
>Kitfox flight from Calgary.
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>SteveZ
>Calgary
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>>Likewise if you need help, no mater what you are
>>. flying if you are in eastern Oregon, my place
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| Subject: | Re: Skystar Will Be Back Soon. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michael burkhardt <mjbavid@yahoo.com>
Alan, I will take you up on that when I get my 7 done.
Mike
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--- Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda
> Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
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> Come on down. This is a great place to base out of
> for Idaho and Oregon
> back country flying. I have a private place in the
> country with lots of
> room to camp - even a swimming pool when it is
> warm-, extra cars and a
> love of adventure. I am serious. We would enjoy it.
>
> Alan
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> Steve Zakreski wrote:
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Eric" <iworonko@cox.net>
there is a Kitfox header tank on ebay right now
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| Subject: | Re: Skystar Will Be Back Soon. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
I can see Payette from my house. Ontario is on the Oregon Idaho border -
just west of Caldwell Idaho. I am airport manager at ONO. I would enjoy
a getting together.
I was the police and fire chief in Genesee Idaho years ago ( about 28
years ago), and my wife and I graduated from U Of I Moscow.
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Frank Miles wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Frank Miles" <f.miles.tcp.833@clearwire.net>
>
>Just where is this place? I live at Clarkston, Washington/ Lewiston, Idaho
>(all the same) and have a daughter at Payette, Idaho on the Oregon border.
>Several Kitfoxes up here. Maybe we could arrange some kind of rendezvous?
>Are you familiar with a fly-in Bed and Breakfast near Kimberly. I haven't
>been there but might be an interesting for a meet. Frank Miles
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
>Daniels
>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:21 PM
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
>Come on down. This is a great place to base out of for Idaho and Oregon
>back country flying. I have a private place in the country with lots of
>room to camp - even a swimming pool when it is warm-, extra cars and a
>love of adventure. I am serious. We would enjoy it.
>
>Alan
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>Steve Zakreski wrote:
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>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
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>>Careful.....you realize eastern Oregon is only a two hour
>>Kitfox flight from Calgary.
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>>Calgary
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| Subject: | Skystar Will Be Back Soon. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Frank Miles" <f.miles.tcp.833@clearwire.net>
Alan, I get to ONO several times a year and will make it a point to look you
up. Probably be in the Cherokee though. Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
Daniels
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
I can see Payette from my house. Ontario is on the Oregon Idaho border -
just west of Caldwell Idaho. I am airport manager at ONO. I would enjoy
a getting together.
I was the police and fire chief in Genesee Idaho years ago ( about 28
years ago), and my wife and I graduated from U Of I Moscow.
Do not archive
Frank Miles wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Frank Miles"
<f.miles.tcp.833@clearwire.net>
>
>Just where is this place? I live at Clarkston, Washington/ Lewiston, Idaho
>(all the same) and have a daughter at Payette, Idaho on the Oregon border.
>Several Kitfoxes up here. Maybe we could arrange some kind of rendezvous?
>Are you familiar with a fly-in Bed and Breakfast near Kimberly. I haven't
>been there but might be an interesting for a meet. Frank Miles
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
>Daniels
>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:21 PM
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
<aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
>Come on down. This is a great place to base out of for Idaho and Oregon
>back country flying. I have a private place in the country with lots of
>room to camp - even a swimming pool when it is warm-, extra cars and a
>love of adventure. I am serious. We would enjoy it.
>
>Alan
>
>Steve Zakreski wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
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>>Careful.....you realize eastern Oregon is only a two hour
>>Kitfox flight from Calgary.
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>>Calgary
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>>>. flying if you are in eastern Oregon, my place
>>>is your place, fully equipped with a shop and hangar.
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| Subject: | Some kind of Rendezvous |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
OK... I haven't said anything just yet... I have been trying to setup a get
together.... Why.. because we can.. Where.. haven't figured that part out
just yet.. But just for kicks... How about a consensus:
When ? May is too soon.. June has Cameron Park, Golden West, Rocky
Mountain... July has Arlington and Oshkosh... Aug... Gets a little warm in
some areas but might work... or do we schedule something for the same
time frame as Arlington or Oshkosh... or do we wait for September, October
and head a little south...
Where ? Thoughts have been.. Stanley, Moab, Salmon.. somewhere there is
places for people to stay, eat, visit and more importantly.. FLY !!! I like
fly-outs...
Would enjoy hearing some thoughts... but I think it is time for an INFORMAL
fun gathering of Fox's
Please feel free to send me an email off list with your thoughts if you
wish.. but we are going to do something...
Have a Safe New Year !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Miles
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 6:08 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Frank Miles"
<f.miles.tcp.833@clearwire.net>
Just where is this place? I live at Clarkston, Washington/ Lewiston, Idaho
(all the same) and have a daughter at Payette, Idaho on the Oregon border.
Several Kitfoxes up here. Maybe we could arrange some kind of rendezvous?
Are you familiar with a fly-in Bed and Breakfast near Kimberly. I haven't
been there but might be an interesting for a meet. Frank Miles
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
Daniels
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
Come on down. This is a great place to base out of for Idaho and Oregon
back country flying. I have a private place in the country with lots of
room to camp - even a swimming pool when it is warm-, extra cars and a
love of adventure. I am serious. We would enjoy it.
Alan
Steve Zakreski wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
>Careful.....you realize eastern Oregon is only a two hour
>Kitfox flight from Calgary.
>
>SteveZ
>Calgary
>
>
>>Likewise if you need help, no mater what you are
>>. flying if you are in eastern Oregon, my place
>>is your place, fully equipped with a shop and hangar.
>>
>>
>
>SteveZ
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Malcolmbru@aol.com
I have always wanted to barnstorm accost America on floats with the kids
and wife in tow in a moterhome in 4 years the oldest will be a HS senior
and the youngest in junior hi the interaction I see on this site
makes it a possibility mal
do not archive
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| Subject: | Denney description of model diffs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jack bell <jack@comconn.com>
I've seen the "whats the difference between" thread come up several times,
and as I came across an old newsletter in papers I was going through,
thought I'd attempt to scan and post the "official" version.
After uploading, I noted that page 2 and 3 are in the wrong order
(who puts a subscription form in the *middle* of an article?),
but it's on www.sportflight.com in the files section under
Text/Articles.
Enjoy..
-Jack
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| Subject: | Re: fabric temp/ paint |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Randy-
You probably won't see the loosening of the fabric, just a "scalloped"
look to the trailing edge, if viewed from a low angle, say, from the
tip in to the root. It's one of those things that wouldn't be noticed
normally, and I wouldn't have thought about it if I hadn't seen it in
the later Classic IV manual.
Lynn
On Monday, January 23, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
> <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
> Lynn,
> No, I didn't. I am pretty sure that the series 5 manual doesn't call
> for.
>
> Al (see below) uses higher temperatures and does say to watch the
> trailing
> edge of the wing. I haven't noticed any loosening fabric though.
>
> Randy
>
> .
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: fabric temp/ paint |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I was advised to stiffen the trailing edge on my 5 and
I am glad I did. One person ran diagonals from the
ribs to the center of the trailing edge between the
ribs. Wish I did that. It only takes a little AL or
plywood to do it. Very light for the gain.
I did as the other person advised and sprayed
expanding foam into the trailing edge to keep it from
buckling easily. I like the extra stiffness, but both
methods would have been better.
I kept my heat to 300 except over the tanks where I
went to 315. Much more temp and I would worry about
the false ribs snapping too.
Kurt S. S-5 w/70 hrs
--- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
> Randy-
> You probably won't see the loosening of the fabric,
> just a "scalloped" look to the trailing edge, if
viewed from a
> low angle, say, from the tip in to the root.
> It's one of those things that
> wouldn't be noticed normally, and I wouldn't have
thought
> about it if I hadn't seen it in the later Classic IV
manual.
>
> Lynn
> On Monday, January 23, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Randy
> Daughenbaugh wrote:
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy
> Daughenbaugh"
> > <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
> >
> > Lynn,
> > No, I didn't. I am pretty sure that the series 5
> manual doesn't call for.
> >
> > Al (see below) uses higher temperatures and does
> say to watch the trailing edge of the wing.
> > I haven't noticed any loosening fabric though.
> >
> > Randy
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| Subject: | First Flight Report |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Randall" <gryfz450@hotmail.com>
All Right Roger!!! This is very good news. Makes a bad week a he)) lot
better. I will be flying with you one of these days....in formation that
is.
Thanks for the good news
Gary
s7 still in the garage
>From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight Report
>Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:35:45 -0600
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
><rdmac@swbell.net>
>
>OK guys and gals here's my story, enjoy
>
>
> On Jan. 11, N619RM, a Series 7 passed its FAA inspection with
>only a few minor problems and today Jan 22 after 3 years and 5 months of
>off
>and on building she took to the air for the first time. All I can say is
>WOW
>what a solid little airplane. I guess I must have done my home work because
>it flew just as straight and true as can be. To tell you the truth I was a
>little worried weather all my time in a Cessna 152 was going to prepare me
>well enough for flying this bird but my worries were all for not. It
>actually was easier to fly that the 152. This is the most honest flying
>airplane I could have hoped for. It flew just as solid as a rock. I didn't
>have a heavy wing and the pitch felt good and positive. The trim tab system
>on the Model 7 has good authority and is super simple to get use to. The
>only thing that surprised me was in how quick it got off. I had no sooner
>applied full throttle and the air speed was at 45 and we were leaving the
>ground right after that. I had the trim set for take off and it started
>flying when the air speed was there. I sit here typing this with a big grin
>on my face. Man what a fun little airplane this is going to be. Initially I
>was showing about 95 MPH in cruise but I know that will improve once I ad
>the spinner on the prop and the wheel pants. Today was the payback for all
>the work (actually it was a labor of love) and the waiting that was endured
>and in closing I'd like to add that it would not have ever happened if not
>for one person in Aberdeen, WA. Once again thank you Gary Randall.
>
>
> Happy Landing
>
> Roger Mac
>
> N619RM/912S (now flying)
>
>
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| Subject: | Skystar Will Be Back Soon. |
Cc: "Steve Zakreski (szakreski@shaw.ca)" <sszakreski@trane.com>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Alan
I'm doing some long range planning for a trip in that general direction.
What are some of the must see places in the northwest. The Boeing Plant in
Seattle, Mount St Helen and Crater Lake are on my list, as well as the
Spruce Goose in McMinnville, The Avenue of Giants, and Sonoma Valley.
Anything further inland near you for the return trip?
SteveZ
Calgary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
Daniels
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
Come on down. This is a great place to base out of for Idaho and Oregon
back country flying. I have a private place in the country with lots of
room to camp - even a swimming pool when it is warm-, extra cars and a
love of adventure. I am serious. We would enjoy it.
Alan
Steve Zakreski wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
>Careful.....you realize eastern Oregon is only a two hour
>Kitfox flight from Calgary.
>
>SteveZ
>Calgary
>
>
>
>>Likewise if you need help, no mater what you are
>>. flying if you are in eastern Oregon, my place
>>is your place, fully equipped with a shop and hangar.
>>
>>
>
>SteveZ
>
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| Subject: | Skystar Will Be Back Soon. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Steve,
You'd better look us up.. We had fun at Oshkosh.. probably time to do that
again.. only here this time...
Have a Safe New Year !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Zakreski
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 10:20 PM
Cc: Steve Zakreski (szakreski@shaw.ca)
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Alan
I'm doing some long range planning for a trip in that general direction.
What are some of the must see places in the northwest. The Boeing Plant in
Seattle, Mount St Helen and Crater Lake are on my list, as well as the
Spruce Goose in McMinnville, The Avenue of Giants, and Sonoma Valley.
Anything further inland near you for the return trip?
SteveZ
Calgary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
Daniels
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
Come on down. This is a great place to base out of for Idaho and Oregon
back country flying. I have a private place in the country with lots of
room to camp - even a swimming pool when it is warm-, extra cars and a
love of adventure. I am serious. We would enjoy it.
Alan
Steve Zakreski wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
>Careful.....you realize eastern Oregon is only a two hour
>Kitfox flight from Calgary.
>
>SteveZ
>Calgary
>
>
>>Likewise if you need help, no mater what you are
>>. flying if you are in eastern Oregon, my place
>>is your place, fully equipped with a shop and hangar.
>>
>>
>
>SteveZ
>
>
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