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1. 04:49 AM - Re: Service Bulletins Kitfox Model II (Bill Bowen)
2. 05:34 AM - Re: Re: Service Bulletins Kitfox Model II (Dee Young)
3. 06:51 AM - Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... (Jeremy Casey)
4. 07:37 AM - Re: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... (jdmcbean)
5. 07:37 AM - Re: Re: Service Bulletins Kitfox Model II (jdmcbean)
6. 07:51 AM - Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 (Randy Daughenbaugh)
7. 08:06 AM - Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 (Rueb, Duane)
8. 12:05 PM - Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 (tcfosser@aol.com)
9. 01:36 PM - Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 (Fox5flyer)
10. 03:31 PM - Re:NEW BUNGEES FOR MY CLASSIC IV.... (PEDRO PEREZ)
11. 06:11 PM - bungee gear toe in (Mark.Summers@lwbref.com)
12. 06:13 PM - Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 (tcfosser@aol.com)
13. 07:29 PM - 912 Vibration (Cudnohufsky's)
14. 07:42 PM - Re: Re:NEW BUNGEES FOR MY CLASSIC IV.... (jdmcbean)
15. 07:47 PM - I flew today (Mike Ford)
16. 08:12 PM - Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 (Milt's Kitfox Stuff)
17. 08:25 PM - Re: I flew today (Lowell Fitt)
18. 08:54 PM - Re: bungee gear toe in (Cudnohufsky's)
19. 10:12 PM - Re: 912 Vibration (James Shumaker)
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| Subject: | Re: Service Bulletins Kitfox Model II |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Bowen" <bill.bowen@premierhotel.com>
Can anyone tell me how to acquire all of the Service Bulletins that were published
for the Kitfox Model II? Somehow Skystar had dropped me from the list and
I would like to acquire a copy of all of the SB's. I hear that some of them
were significant.
Bill B.
William D. Bowen
Chairman and CEO
Premier Hotel Corporation
2839 Paces Ferry Rd., Suite 560
Atlanta, Georgia 30339
Office 678.842.0633
Cell 229.402.2121
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| Subject: | Re: Service Bulletins Kitfox Model II |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Bill try this site, it should take care of your needs.
http://kitfox.lazair.com/skystar/service_bulletins/<http://kitfox.lazair.com/skystar/service_bulletins/>
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bowen<mailto:bill.bowen@premierhotel.com>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:47 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Service Bulletins Kitfox Model II
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Bowen" <bill.bowen@premierhotel.com<mailto:bill.bowen@premierhotel.com>>
Can anyone tell me how to acquire all of the Service Bulletins that were published
for the Kitfox Model II? Somehow Skystar had dropped me from the list and
I would like to acquire a copy of all of the SB's. I hear that some of them
were significant.
Bill B.
William D. Bowen
Chairman and CEO
Premier Hotel Corporation
2839 Paces Ferry Rd., Suite 560
Atlanta, Georgia 30339
Office 678.842.0633
Cell 229.402.2121
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| Subject: | Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
Could some of you folks that know such things, point me to a couple of
representative pictures of the series 6 and 7 fwf installations? Trying
to see what is different...I found several FWF pictures on the
Sportflight site, but don't know what version I'm looking at.
Jeremy Casey
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| Subject: | Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Jeremy,
The differences are significant.. The Series 7 FWF reduces the installation
time by as much as 60%. The engine also moved forward about 5".
Have a Safe New Year !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Casey
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:50 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF...
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
Could some of you folks that know such things, point me to a couple of
representative pictures of the series 6 and 7 fwf installations? Trying
to see what is different...I found several FWF pictures on the
Sportflight site, but don't know what version I'm looking at.
Jeremy Casey
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| Subject: | Re: Service Bulletins Kitfox Model II |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Bill,
Visit our web www.sportplanellc.com goto the about Kitfox link You'll
find them there.
Have a Safe New Year !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Bowen
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:47 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Service Bulletins Kitfox Model II
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Bowen"
<bill.bowen@premierhotel.com>
Can anyone tell me how to acquire all of the Service Bulletins that were
published for the Kitfox Model II? Somehow Skystar had dropped me from the
list and I would like to acquire a copy of all of the SB's. I hear that
some of them were significant.
Bill B.
William D. Bowen
Chairman and CEO
Premier Hotel Corporation
2839 Paces Ferry Rd., Suite 560
Atlanta, Georgia 30339
Office 678.842.0633
Cell 229.402.2121
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| Subject: | power for models 5, 6, 7 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
One consideration is Sport plane or not. My 5/7 has a gross weight of 1320
and is a LSA. Empty weight is 776 lbs. So I can fly as sport pilot when
(if?) my medical becomes questionable. The O-200 makes this much less
feasible.
Randy - 912S
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FLYung@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: FLYung@aol.com
What's the best way to learn details about the Kitfox 7, like construction
materials & details of various components, weight of basic airframe with
specific engines like 0-200, performance with 0-200, Rotax 100+ h.p., fuel
tanks
vs folded wing transport, & cost of engines, props & "projects"? My
interest
is cross country with long range tanks & low weight pilot/passenger 7
little
luggage.
Thanks, F. Wood
_fixter53@aol.com_ (mailto:fixter53@aol.com)
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| Subject: | power for models 5, 6, 7 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane" <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu>
Kurt:
I believe that the engines are built in Poland, and may include
some improvements in quality over the old design, but I do not actually
know this, but my point was to raise some awareness, and to get some
discussion going. If they are junk, then that needs to be said, but I
just found it to be odd that no discussion at all was going on about
them, while people are busy adapting car engines, and working with
liquid cooling systems. Have the magazines done any articles on them?
As Lowell says, it could become an engineering project to do the
installation, but some of the guys who are in the group could be up to
it. It could even turn out that there are reasons that it would not be
a good solution, but we wouldn't know this without some discussion and
information transfer.
Duane
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt
schrader
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I looked at Franklins back when I was trying to decide
about my engine. They haven't gotten over the
reputation of being 300 hr TBO engines, I guess. I
thought someone on this list had one though. Any
current experience out there?
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- "Rueb, Duane" <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu> wrote:
>
> Some of you are at the stage of needing to consider
> what power
> to use in your project, and are looking for a good
> buy on the Rotax 912
> series, but I have notice quite a lot of discussion
> about the problems
> associated with it's liquid cooling system, and
> other issues.
> Why not use the Franklin 125hp engine, which is
> available at a
> price that is hard to believe, because of it's
> modest level,
> comparatively ($6,900). They even are aware of our
> Kitfoxes according
> to their ads, so why aren't we seeing these
> installations talked about
> on our list, and articles in the magazines? I must
> confess, I don't
> understand why this engine isn't the main one guys
> are talking about now
> for airplanes in the class of the 5 thru 7 Kitfoxes.
>
>
> Duane Rueb
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| Subject: | Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: tcfosser@aol.com
I am installing a Franklin in my Model V. I have yet to start it but am getting
close. So far it has been a perfect fit for the V. The guys in Fort Collins
that sell the Franklin made up a mount for the Kitfox along with an exhaust
and the quality has been top notch. So far I have not had any surprises mounting
it but again, iI have yet to run it. Any questions about it let me know.
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: Rueb, Duane <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu>
Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:05:49 -0800
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane" <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu>
Kurt:
I believe that the engines are built in Poland, and may include
some improvements in quality over the old design, but I do not actually
know this, but my point was to raise some awareness, and to get some
discussion going. If they are junk, then that needs to be said, but I
just found it to be odd that no discussion at all was going on about
them, while people are busy adapting car engines, and working with
liquid cooling systems. Have the magazines done any articles on them?
As Lowell says, it could become an engineering project to do the
installation, but some of the guys who are in the group could be up to
it. It could even turn out that there are reasons that it would not be
a good solution, but we wouldn't know this without some discussion and
information transfer.
Duane
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt
schrader
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I looked at Franklins back when I was trying to decide
about my engine. They haven't gotten over the
reputation of being 300 hr TBO engines, I guess. I
thought someone on this list had one though. Any
current experience out there?
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- "Rueb, Duane" <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu> wrote:
>
> Some of you are at the stage of needing to consider
> what power
> to use in your project, and are looking for a good
> buy on the Rotax 912
> series, but I have notice quite a lot of discussion
> about the problems
> associated with it's liquid cooling system, and
> other issues.
> Why not use the Franklin 125hp engine, which is
> available at a
> price that is hard to believe, because of it's
> modest level,
> comparatively ($6,900). They even are aware of our
> Kitfoxes according
> to their ads, so why aren't we seeing these
> installations talked about
> on our list, and articles in the magazines? I must
> confess, I don't
> understand why this engine isn't the main one guys
> are talking about now
> for airplanes in the class of the 5 thru 7 Kitfoxes.
>
>
> Duane Rueb
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| Subject: | Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Will this work with the round cowl Tim? Which cowl are you using?
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: <tcfosser@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: tcfosser@aol.com
>
> I am installing a Franklin in my Model V. I have yet to start it but am
getting close. So far it has been a perfect fit for the V. The guys in
Fort Collins that sell the Franklin made up a mount for the Kitfox along
with an exhaust and the quality has been top notch. So far I have not had
any surprises mounting it but again, iI have yet to run it. Any questions
about it let me know.
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rueb, Duane <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:05:49 -0800
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane" <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu>
>
> Kurt:
>
> I believe that the engines are built in Poland, and may include
> some improvements in quality over the old design, but I do not actually
> know this, but my point was to raise some awareness, and to get some
> discussion going. If they are junk, then that needs to be said, but I
> just found it to be odd that no discussion at all was going on about
> them, while people are busy adapting car engines, and working with
> liquid cooling systems. Have the magazines done any articles on them?
> As Lowell says, it could become an engineering project to do the
> installation, but some of the guys who are in the group could be up to
> it. It could even turn out that there are reasons that it would not be
> a good solution, but we wouldn't know this without some discussion and
> information transfer.
>
> Duane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt
> schrader
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:16 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> I looked at Franklins back when I was trying to decide
> about my engine. They haven't gotten over the
> reputation of being 300 hr TBO engines, I guess. I
> thought someone on this list had one though. Any
> current experience out there?
>
> Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
>
> --- "Rueb, Duane" <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Some of you are at the stage of needing to consider
> > what power
> > to use in your project, and are looking for a good
> > buy on the Rotax 912
> > series, but I have notice quite a lot of discussion
> > about the problems
> > associated with it's liquid cooling system, and
> > other issues.
> > Why not use the Franklin 125hp engine, which is
> > available at a
> > price that is hard to believe, because of it's
> > modest level,
> > comparatively ($6,900). They even are aware of our
> > Kitfoxes according
> > to their ads, so why aren't we seeing these
> > installations talked about
> > on our list, and articles in the magazines? I must
> > confess, I don't
> > understand why this engine isn't the main one guys
> > are talking about now
> > for airplanes in the class of the 5 thru 7 Kitfoxes.
> >
> >
> > Duane Rueb
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:NEW BUNGEES FOR MY CLASSIC IV.... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "PEDRO PEREZ" <5324@PRTC.NET>
HELLO: LIST...
I WAS OUT OF LIST FOR A YEAR...BUT I AM HERE AGAIN...
I NEED A SET OF NEW BUNGEES FOR MY CLASSIC IV 1200....
DO 'WICKS OR SPRUCE MAKE IT????
DO ANY SPECIAL TECH HINT TO MAKE THE 5 LOOPS RECCOMENDED!!!!!!!!ANY TOOL TO
USED???
REGARDS TO ALL,
PEDRO PEREZ
CLASSIC w/ VERNER ENGINE IN PUERTO RICO
----- Original Message -----
From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:39 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
> Meridian.. between Boise and Caldwell... Currently have a hangar at
> Caldwell....
>
> Have a Safe New Year !!
> John & Debra McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Zakreski
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:13 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Cc: Steve Zakreski (szakreski@shaw.ca)
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
> John
> Are you in Caldwell?
> SteveZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:40 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
> Steve,
> You'd better look us up.. We had fun at Oshkosh.. probably time to
> do that
> again.. only here this time...
>
> Have a Safe New Year !!
> John & Debra McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Zakreski
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 10:20 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Cc: Steve Zakreski (szakreski@shaw.ca)
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
> Alan
>
> I'm doing some long range planning for a trip in that general direction.
> What are some of the must see places in the northwest. The Boeing Plant in
> Seattle, Mount St Helen and Crater Lake are on my list, as well as the
> Spruce Goose in McMinnville, The Avenue of Giants, and Sonoma Valley.
> Anything further inland near you for the return trip?
>
> SteveZ
> Calgary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
> Daniels
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:21 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
> <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
> Come on down. This is a great place to base out of for Idaho and Oregon
> back country flying. I have a private place in the country with lots of
> room to camp - even a swimming pool when it is warm-, extra cars and a
> love of adventure. I am serious. We would enjoy it.
>
> Alan
>
> Steve Zakreski wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>>
>>Careful.....you realize eastern Oregon is only a two hour
>>Kitfox flight from Calgary.
>>
>>SteveZ
>>Calgary
>>
>>
>>
>>>Likewise if you need help, no mater what you are
>>>. flying if you are in eastern Oregon, my place
>>>is your place, fully equipped with a shop and hangar.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>SteveZ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | bungee gear toe in |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
I am replacing both tube gear on my KF 2 with recently purchased used gear.
Both gear look undamaged at all, but the left gear looks to be toed in
[more upright] than the right. May sound stupid but if this is the case
could this be fixed by putting a thicker rubber cushion on the bungee end
to keep the gear from pulling as far up when the bungees are tight? Has
anyone ever tried this or have any opinions, from reading some of the
archives this seems to have been a fairly common problem. Thanks Mark
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| Subject: | Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: tcfosser@aol.com
Deke, I am using the "straight" cowl for the 0-235. It has been a while but I
believe iI ordered the firewall forward kit for the O-235 and then had Franklin
make me a mount. But everything else such as the cowls, firewall, etc fit
very well with the Franklin. The carburater is about the only thing I have had
to engineer myself and again I have not run the engine yet but I ordered the
Aero-vee carb from Sonex which is a fairly simple and straightforward carb.
I was planning on using the Ellison carb but it requires a straight run of airflow
that I could not figure out a way to make work. I will soon see if I made
a good decision or not!
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:35:24 -0500
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Will this work with the round cowl Tim? Which cowl are you using?
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: <tcfosser@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: tcfosser@aol.com
>
> I am installing a Franklin in my Model V. I have yet to start it but am
getting close. So far it has been a perfect fit for the V. The guys in
Fort Collins that sell the Franklin made up a mount for the Kitfox along
with an exhaust and the quality has been top notch. So far I have not had
any surprises mounting it but again, iI have yet to run it. Any questions
about it let me know.
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rueb, Duane <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:05:49 -0800
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane" <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu>
>
> Kurt:
>
> I believe that the engines are built in Poland, and may include
> some improvements in quality over the old design, but I do not actually
> know this, but my point was to raise some awareness, and to get some
> discussion going. If they are junk, then that needs to be said, but I
> just found it to be odd that no discussion at all was going on about
> them, while people are busy adapting car engines, and working with
> liquid cooling systems. Have the magazines done any articles on them?
> As Lowell says, it could become an engineering project to do the
> installation, but some of the guys who are in the group could be up to
> it. It could even turn out that there are reasons that it would not be
> a good solution, but we wouldn't know this without some discussion and
> information transfer.
>
> Duane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt
> schrader
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:16 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> I looked at Franklins back when I was trying to decide
> about my engine. They haven't gotten over the
> reputation of being 300 hr TBO engines, I guess. I
> thought someone on this list had one though. Any
> current experience out there?
>
> Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
>
> --- "Rueb, Duane" <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Some of you are at the stage of needing to consider
> > what power
> > to use in your project, and are looking for a good
> > buy on the Rotax 912
> > series, but I have notice quite a lot of discussion
> > about the problems
> > associated with it's liquid cooling system, and
> > other issues.
> > Why not use the Franklin 125hp engine, which is
> > available at a
> > price that is hard to believe, because of it's
> > modest level,
> > comparatively ($6,900). They even are aware of our
> > Kitfoxes according
> > to their ads, so why aren't we seeing these
> > installations talked about
> > on our list, and articles in the magazines? I must
> > confess, I don't
> > understand why this engine isn't the main one guys
> > are talking about now
> > for airplanes in the class of the 5 thru 7 Kitfoxes.
> >
> >
> > Duane Rueb
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net>
Group,
A friend of mine is working on a Pulsar with a 912UL 80 hp. It dropped a
wheel off the runway when turning around and had a slight prop strike. The
prop was a GSC 2 blade wood ground adjust. Upon inspection there was no
evidence of the strike so the prop was removed and sent to the Mfg. for
inspection which revealed micro fractures to the prop end. The prop was
replaced and there is now a slight vibration at low RPM, higher RPM seems to
be smoother. The prop was removed and balance checked, balanced and replaced
but vibration still there. The question he would like to ask is what do you
feel he should look at, check, replace in the motor? Also, are the 912
cranks solid or are they pressed together?
Thanks for any direction I can pass on,
Lloyd
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| Subject: | Re:NEW BUNGEES FOR MY CLASSIC IV.... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
I have bungees for the 3, 4, and 5.
Have a Safe New Year !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of PEDRO PEREZ
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:23 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re:NEW BUNGEES FOR MY CLASSIC IV....
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "PEDRO PEREZ" <5324@PRTC.NET>
HELLO: LIST...
I WAS OUT OF LIST FOR A YEAR...BUT I AM HERE AGAIN...
I NEED A SET OF NEW BUNGEES FOR MY CLASSIC IV 1200....
DO 'WICKS OR SPRUCE MAKE IT????
DO ANY SPECIAL TECH HINT TO MAKE THE 5 LOOPS RECCOMENDED!!!!!!!!ANY TOOL TO
USED???
REGARDS TO ALL,
PEDRO PEREZ
CLASSIC w/ VERNER ENGINE IN PUERTO RICO
----- Original Message -----
From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:39 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
> Meridian.. between Boise and Caldwell... Currently have a hangar at
> Caldwell....
>
> Have a Safe New Year !!
> John & Debra McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Zakreski
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:13 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Cc: Steve Zakreski (szakreski@shaw.ca)
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
> John
> Are you in Caldwell?
> SteveZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:40 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
> Steve,
> You'd better look us up.. We had fun at Oshkosh.. probably time to
> do that
> again.. only here this time...
>
> Have a Safe New Year !!
> John & Debra McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Zakreski
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 10:20 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Cc: Steve Zakreski (szakreski@shaw.ca)
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
> Alan
>
> I'm doing some long range planning for a trip in that general direction.
> What are some of the must see places in the northwest. The Boeing Plant in
> Seattle, Mount St Helen and Crater Lake are on my list, as well as the
> Spruce Goose in McMinnville, The Avenue of Giants, and Sonoma Valley.
> Anything further inland near you for the return trip?
>
> SteveZ
> Calgary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
> Daniels
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:21 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Skystar Will Be Back Soon.
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
> <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
> Come on down. This is a great place to base out of for Idaho and Oregon
> back country flying. I have a private place in the country with lots of
> room to camp - even a swimming pool when it is warm-, extra cars and a
> love of adventure. I am serious. We would enjoy it.
>
> Alan
>
> Steve Zakreski wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>>
>>Careful.....you realize eastern Oregon is only a two hour
>>Kitfox flight from Calgary.
>>
>>SteveZ
>>Calgary
>>
>>
>>
>>>Likewise if you need help, no mater what you are
>>>. flying if you are in eastern Oregon, my place
>>>is your place, fully equipped with a shop and hangar.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>SteveZ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Ford <fordm2003@yahoo.com>
Well, I made it up today. I took a half day off in order to take advantage of
this nice weather. Ive been watching the weather and the wind was forecast
to die down to about 5 mph around 3pm, but it didn't. Not in Wausau anyway.
After preflight and engine warm up I headed out to runway 30.
I announced and was rolling on 30, then ping, I see a little cowling fastener
pop off. I immediately aborted the take-off and back taxied. I taxied the plane
off the runway, shut it off and parked the plane off the taxiway in the snow.
Dang.
Luckily, I only had to walk the first 1/10th of the runway when I happened to look
back for traffic and saw a metallic glimmer. I had already passed that tiny
fastener, but not by much.
Whew.
Well, I fastened it back in the cowl and once again prepared to take off.
I am still fairly new to my tail wheel Kitfox. I really didnt want to take
off if the winds were going to be moderate crosswind, as I havent really had too
much time practicing them. The practice that I did have was several months
ago.
Well, after a safe, but fairly wobbly take-off, I was up in the air and found
the air to be a little more turbulent than I was expecting.
I decided landing right now might not be the best thing. I knew I had plenty of
fuel, so I decided to fly east for a while and practice maneuvers.
After about an hour of practice I was starting to get a pretty good feel for
the plane again. The bumps where a little less at altitude, but I was also
getting used to them.
After about an hour, the wind at Wausau still hadnt subsided. So, I decided to
kill some time by flying over to Merrill. Merrills runways were a little more
favorable given the wind direction. The wind was also a bit calmer there.
There was still a small crosswind at Merrill. After a slightly bouncy, but
otherwise un-eventful landing at Merrill, I felt a bit more emboldened with crosswind
landings.
After a short break at Merrill I headed back to Wausau. I was feeling much better
about the crosswind landing to come.
The wind at Wausau was only slightly calmer than it had been earlier. However,
I felt I could handle it. It was getting dark and Id rather put my bird back
in her Wausau nest if possible.
I found downwind, base, and then a nice long final for 30. I wanted a long final
so that I could get set up a ways out and get a good feel for the wind on approach.
Again, I had a little bounce, but otherwise safe landing.
Ahh.
Another day, another couple of small crosswind landings under my belt.
THAT felt good!
Mike
Model IV speedster
---------------------------------
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| Subject: | Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Milt's Kitfox Stuff" <flysly@erols.com>
I used the Ellison TBI and made a plenum box with the air entry on the right
rear side of the "box" (which is actually shaped sort of like a tear drop
with the pointy part coming out to the right of the oil resevoir). I used a
NACA vent on the side of the lower cowl to bring air in to a carb heat box
mounted to the RH firewall footwell. More than one way to skin a cat, but
it will still be a while before I can claim success...
Milt
----- Original Message -----
From: <tcfosser@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: tcfosser@aol.com
>
> Deke, I am using the "straight" cowl for the 0-235. It has been a while
> but I believe iI ordered the firewall forward kit for the O-235 and then
> had Franklin make me a mount. But everything else such as the cowls,
> firewall, etc fit very well with the Franklin. The carburater is about
> the only thing I have had to engineer myself and again I have not run the
> engine yet but I ordered the Aero-vee carb from Sonex which is a fairly
> simple and straightforward carb. I was planning on using the Ellison carb
> but it requires a straight run of airflow that I could not figure out a
> way to make work. I will soon see if I made a good decision or not!
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:35:24 -0500
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> Will this work with the round cowl Tim? Which cowl are you using?
> Deke
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <tcfosser@aol.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: tcfosser@aol.com
>>
>> I am installing a Franklin in my Model V. I have yet to start it but am
> getting close. So far it has been a perfect fit for the V. The guys in
> Fort Collins that sell the Franklin made up a mount for the Kitfox along
> with an exhaust and the quality has been top notch. So far I have not had
> any surprises mounting it but again, iI have yet to run it. Any questions
> about it let me know.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rueb, Duane <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu>
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:05:49 -0800
>> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
>>
>>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane" <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu>
>>
>> Kurt:
>>
>> I believe that the engines are built in Poland, and may include
>> some improvements in quality over the old design, but I do not actually
>> know this, but my point was to raise some awareness, and to get some
>> discussion going. If they are junk, then that needs to be said, but I
>> just found it to be odd that no discussion at all was going on about
>> them, while people are busy adapting car engines, and working with
>> liquid cooling systems. Have the magazines done any articles on them?
>> As Lowell says, it could become an engineering project to do the
>> installation, but some of the guys who are in the group could be up to
>> it. It could even turn out that there are reasons that it would not be
>> a good solution, but we wouldn't know this without some discussion and
>> information transfer.
>>
>> Duane
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt
>> schrader
>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:16 PM
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7
>>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
>> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>>
>> I looked at Franklins back when I was trying to decide
>> about my engine. They haven't gotten over the
>> reputation of being 300 hr TBO engines, I guess. I
>> thought someone on this list had one though. Any
>> current experience out there?
>>
>> Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
>>
>> --- "Rueb, Duane" <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > Some of you are at the stage of needing to consider
>> > what power
>> > to use in your project, and are looking for a good
>> > buy on the Rotax 912
>> > series, but I have notice quite a lot of discussion
>> > about the problems
>> > associated with it's liquid cooling system, and
>> > other issues.
>> > Why not use the Franklin 125hp engine, which is
>> > available at a
>> > price that is hard to believe, because of it's
>> > modest level,
>> > comparatively ($6,900). They even are aware of our
>> > Kitfoxes according
>> > to their ads, so why aren't we seeing these
>> > installations talked about
>> > on our list, and articles in the magazines? I must
>> > confess, I don't
>> > understand why this engine isn't the main one guys
>> > are talking about now
>> > for airplanes in the class of the 5 thru 7 Kitfoxes.
>> >
>> >
>> > Duane Rueb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: I flew today |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Fun read, Thanks Mike
Lowell
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ford" <fordm2003@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:47 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: I flew today
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Ford <fordm2003@yahoo.com>
>
> Well, I made it up today. I took a half day off in order to take
> advantage of this nice weather. Ive been watching the weather and the
> wind was forecast to die down to about 5 mph around 3pm, but it didn't.
> Not in Wausau anyway.
>
> After preflight and engine warm up I headed out to runway 30.
>
> I announced and was rolling on 30, then ping, I see a little cowling
> fastener pop off. I immediately aborted the take-off and back taxied. I
> taxied the plane off the runway, shut it off and parked the plane off the
> taxiway in the snow.
>
> Dang.
>
> Luckily, I only had to walk the first 1/10th of the runway when I happened
> to look back for traffic and saw a metallic glimmer. I had already
> passed that tiny fastener, but not by much.
>
> Whew.
>
> Well, I fastened it back in the cowl and once again prepared to take off.
> I am still fairly new to my tail wheel Kitfox. I really didnt want to
> take off if the winds were going to be moderate crosswind, as I havent
> really had too much time practicing them. The practice that I did have
> was several months ago.
> Well, after a safe, but fairly wobbly take-off, I was up in the air and
> found the air to be a little more turbulent than I was expecting.
>
> I decided landing right now might not be the best thing. I knew I had
> plenty of fuel, so I decided to fly east for a while and practice
> maneuvers.
> After about an hour of practice I was starting to get a pretty good
> feel for the plane again. The bumps where a little less at altitude, but
> I was also getting used to them.
>
> After about an hour, the wind at Wausau still hadnt subsided. So, I
> decided to kill some time by flying over to Merrill. Merrills runways
> were a little more favorable given the wind direction. The wind was also a
> bit calmer there.
> There was still a small crosswind at Merrill. After a slightly bouncy,
> but otherwise un-eventful landing at Merrill, I felt a bit more emboldened
> with crosswind landings.
>
>
> After a short break at Merrill I headed back to Wausau. I was feeling much
> better about the crosswind landing to come.
>
> The wind at Wausau was only slightly calmer than it had been earlier.
> However, I felt I could handle it. It was getting dark and Id rather put
> my bird back in her Wausau nest if possible.
>
> I found downwind, base, and then a nice long final for 30. I wanted a
> long final so that I could get set up a ways out and get a good feel for
> the wind on approach. Again, I had a little bounce, but otherwise safe
> landing.
>
>
> Ahh.
>
> Another day, another couple of small crosswind landings under my belt.
>
>
> THAT felt good!
>
> Mike
> Model IV speedster
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: bungee gear toe in |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net>
Mark,
I had a model IV with the tube gear, be it right or wrong I used a pipe over
my axle to torque the gear leg to the desired position. The tire standing
more upright I think is actually referred to the camber of which I set mine
to straight up with the bungie tight. The toe in which I reference as the
distance between the front of the tires tighter than the distance between
the rear of the tires I set to straight to slightly toed out. My reasoning
for this was from my days racing snowmobiles and setting up the skis, If you
have the skis toed in (fronts closed than the rear) and were making a left
turn and had your weight thrown so it loaded the outside ski your machine
would dart left while your body inertia was heading right and off you go. I
think we can apply the same reasoning to the landing gear especially with
the wings hanging out there it is easy to get one wheel loaded more than the
other as the plane rocks and roll out or if you land slightly crabbed I
think you can experience the same thing. Either way that is how and why I
set my gear the way I did, I flew it for over 4 years in all weather and
field conditions and never had an incident or on set of a ground loop. I am
sure others will chime in with their experiences (and I hope they do) Enjoy.
Lloyd
----- Original Message -----
From: <Mark.Summers@lwbref.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:09 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: bungee gear toe in
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
>
> I am replacing both tube gear on my KF 2 with recently purchased used
> gear.
> Both gear look undamaged at all, but the left gear looks to be toed in
> [more upright] than the right. May sound stupid but if this is the case
> could this be fixed by putting a thicker rubber cushion on the bungee end
> to keep the gear from pulling as far up when the bungees are tight? Has
> anyone ever tried this or have any opinions, from reading some of the
> archives this seems to have been a fairly common problem. Thanks Mark
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 912 Vibration |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
lloyd
It is not likely that the engine was damaged due to a prop strike with a wooden
prop. Wooden props usually shatter before they transmit damaging forces to
the engine. Try a different prop. Also look for a difference in tracking along
different sections of the blades. That is, if both blades are set at the
same angle using the GSC protractor, they may not be set at the same angle. Check
for proper tracking of the prop and check it for tracking at a couple of
different points. They blades may not be a perfect match at all points along
the blades.
Jim Shumaker
Cudnohufsky's <7suds@Chartermi.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net>
Group,
A friend of mine is working on a Pulsar with a 912UL 80 hp. It dropped a
wheel off the runway when turning around and had a slight prop strike. The
prop was a GSC 2 blade wood ground adjust. Upon inspection there was no
evidence of the strike so the prop was removed and sent to the Mfg. for
inspection which revealed micro fractures to the prop end. The prop was
replaced and there is now a slight vibration at low RPM, higher RPM seems to
be smoother. The prop was removed and balance checked, balanced and replaced
but vibration still there. The question he would like to ask is what do you
feel he should look at, check, replace in the motor? Also, are the 912
cranks solid or are they pressed together?
Thanks for any direction I can pass on,
Lloyd
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