---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/26/06: 28 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:27 AM - SV: I flew today (Michel Verheughe) 2. 03:23 AM - Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 (Fox5flyer) 3. 03:37 AM - Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 (Fox5flyer) 4. 03:53 AM - Re: bungee gear toe in (Mark.Summers@lwbref.com) 5. 04:24 AM - Re: SV: I flew today (Lynn Matteson) 6. 05:51 AM - Re: Re:NEW BUNGEES FOR MY CLASSIC IV.... (Jose M. Toro) 7. 07:01 AM - Re: bungee gear toe in (Lowell Fitt) 8. 11:44 AM - fuel sticker (tcfosser@aol.com) 9. 12:13 PM - Re: Re:NEW BUNGEES FOR MY CLASSIC IV.... (PEDRO PEREZ) 10. 01:03 PM - Re: I flew today (Paul Peerenboom) 11. 01:28 PM - Re: I flew today (Gary Olson) 12. 03:16 PM - Re: 912 Vibration (Cudnohufsky's) 13. 03:21 PM - Re: bungee gear toe in (Cudnohufsky's) 14. 03:39 PM - Re: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... (Jeremy Casey) 15. 03:46 PM - Re: 912 Vibration (Rueb, Duane) 16. 04:05 PM - looking for tailwheel spring (Mark.Summers@lwbref.com) 17. 05:02 PM - Re: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... (Alan & Linda Daniels) 18. 05:11 PM - Re: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... (Randy Daughenbaugh) 19. 06:05 PM - Re: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... (Jeremy Casey) 20. 06:10 PM - Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 (Milt's Kitfox Stuff) 21. 06:54 PM - Re: fuel sticker (Guy Buchanan) 22. 08:19 PM - Re: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... (Alan & Linda Daniels) 23. 08:22 PM - Re: fuel sticker (Alan & Linda Daniels) 24. 09:34 PM - Calling Don (jdmcbean) 25. 09:47 PM - Re: looking for tailwheel spring (Tim Vader) 26. 10:07 PM - Re: power for models 5, 6, 7 (kurt schrader) 27. 10:27 PM - Re: Calling Don (Don Pearsall) 28. 11:13 PM - Re: Calling Don (jdmcbean) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:38 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: I flew today --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe Thanks for the story, Mike. It's always pleasant to read about other's experience and you are a good narrator. Regarding the camlocks, those little wonders have a tendency to disappear when you remove your cowling. I always carry a couple of spares in my on-board toolbag. I have also been surprised by turbulences on nice winter days. I think that, with the snow, no thermal is happening and there is often an inversion with slightly warmer air say, above 500 ft AGL. As wind moves faster up there, it creates turbulences in the transition layer. As you said, it gets better once we get higher. Regarding crosswind langind, with my model 3, I found out that my limit is 12 knots crosswind component. If the ATIS reported wind was correct that day, that's the wind at which my plane will gently veer into the wind, at the end of a landing, even with my foot pushing the rudder to its stop, the other way. Cheers, Michel ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:23:38 AM PST US From: "Fox5flyer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" Thanks Tim. Do you know if the round cowl will fit over the Franklin? Keep up updated on how things are going with the install. The more options we have the better. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: tcfosser@aol.com > > Deke, I am using the "straight" cowl for the 0-235. It has been a while but I believe iI ordered the firewall forward kit for the O-235 and then had Franklin make me a mount. But everything else such as the cowls, firewall, etc fit very well with the Franklin. The carburater is about the only thing I have had to engineer myself and again I have not run the engine yet but I ordered the Aero-vee carb from Sonex which is a fairly simple and straightforward carb. I was planning on using the Ellison carb but it requires a straight run of airflow that I could not figure out a way to make work. I will soon see if I made a good decision or not! > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fox5flyer > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:35:24 -0500 > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" > > Will this work with the round cowl Tim? Which cowl are you using? > Deke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:04 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: tcfosser@aol.com > > > > I am installing a Franklin in my Model V. I have yet to start it but am > getting close. So far it has been a perfect fit for the V. The guys in > Fort Collins that sell the Franklin made up a mount for the Kitfox along > with an exhaust and the quality has been top notch. So far I have not had > any surprises mounting it but again, iI have yet to run it. Any questions > about it let me know. > > > > Tim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rueb, Duane > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:05:49 -0800 > > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane" > > > > Kurt: > > > > I believe that the engines are built in Poland, and may include > > some improvements in quality over the old design, but I do not actually > > know this, but my point was to raise some awareness, and to get some > > discussion going. If they are junk, then that needs to be said, but I > > just found it to be odd that no discussion at all was going on about > > them, while people are busy adapting car engines, and working with > > liquid cooling systems. Have the magazines done any articles on them? > > As Lowell says, it could become an engineering project to do the > > installation, but some of the guys who are in the group could be up to > > it. It could even turn out that there are reasons that it would not be > > a good solution, but we wouldn't know this without some discussion and > > information transfer. > > > > Duane > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt > > schrader > > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:16 PM > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > > > > > > I looked at Franklins back when I was trying to decide > > about my engine. They haven't gotten over the > > reputation of being 300 hr TBO engines, I guess. I > > thought someone on this list had one though. Any > > current experience out there? > > > > Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo > > > > --- "Rueb, Duane" wrote: > > > > > > Some of you are at the stage of needing to consider > > > what power > > > to use in your project, and are looking for a good > > > buy on the Rotax 912 > > > series, but I have notice quite a lot of discussion > > > about the problems > > > associated with it's liquid cooling system, and > > > other issues. > > > Why not use the Franklin 125hp engine, which is > > > available at a > > > price that is hard to believe, because of it's > > > modest level, > > > comparatively ($6,900). They even are aware of our > > > Kitfoxes according > > > to their ads, so why aren't we seeing these > > > installations talked about > > > on our list, and articles in the magazines? I must > > > confess, I don't > > > understand why this engine isn't the main one guys > > > are talking about now > > > for airplanes in the class of the 5 thru 7 Kitfoxes. > > > > > > > > > Duane Rueb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:37:46 AM PST US From: "Fox5flyer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" Do you have any photos you can put on Sportflight.com/uploads Milt? I'm having trouble getting a visual on what you're describing. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Milt's Kitfox Stuff" Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:12 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Milt's Kitfox Stuff" > > I used the Ellison TBI and made a plenum box with the air entry on the right > rear side of the "box" (which is actually shaped sort of like a tear drop > with the pointy part coming out to the right of the oil resevoir). I used a > NACA vent on the side of the lower cowl to bring air in to a carb heat box > mounted to the RH firewall footwell. More than one way to skin a cat, but > it will still be a while before I can claim success... > > Milt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: tcfosser@aol.com > > > > Deke, I am using the "straight" cowl for the 0-235. It has been a while > > but I believe iI ordered the firewall forward kit for the O-235 and then > > had Franklin make me a mount. But everything else such as the cowls, > > firewall, etc fit very well with the Franklin. The carburater is about > > the only thing I have had to engineer myself and again I have not run the > > engine yet but I ordered the Aero-vee carb from Sonex which is a fairly > > simple and straightforward carb. I was planning on using the Ellison carb > > but it requires a straight run of airflow that I could not figure out a > > way to make work. I will soon see if I made a good decision or not! > > > > Tim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fox5flyer > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:35:24 -0500 > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" > > > > Will this work with the round cowl Tim? Which cowl are you using? > > Deke > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:04 PM > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 > > > > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: tcfosser@aol.com > >> > >> I am installing a Franklin in my Model V. I have yet to start it but am > > getting close. So far it has been a perfect fit for the V. The guys in > > Fort Collins that sell the Franklin made up a mount for the Kitfox along > > with an exhaust and the quality has been top notch. So far I have not had > > any surprises mounting it but again, iI have yet to run it. Any questions > > about it let me know. > >> > >> Tim > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Rueb, Duane > >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > >> Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:05:49 -0800 > >> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 > >> > >> > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane" > >> > >> Kurt: > >> > >> I believe that the engines are built in Poland, and may include > >> some improvements in quality over the old design, but I do not actually > >> know this, but my point was to raise some awareness, and to get some > >> discussion going. If they are junk, then that needs to be said, but I > >> just found it to be odd that no discussion at all was going on about > >> them, while people are busy adapting car engines, and working with > >> liquid cooling systems. Have the magazines done any articles on them? > >> As Lowell says, it could become an engineering project to do the > >> installation, but some of the guys who are in the group could be up to > >> it. It could even turn out that there are reasons that it would not be > >> a good solution, but we wouldn't know this without some discussion and > >> information transfer. > >> > >> Duane > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > >> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt > >> schrader > >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:16 PM > >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 > >> > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > >> > >> > >> I looked at Franklins back when I was trying to decide > >> about my engine. They haven't gotten over the > >> reputation of being 300 hr TBO engines, I guess. I > >> thought someone on this list had one though. Any > >> current experience out there? > >> > >> Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo > >> > >> --- "Rueb, Duane" wrote: > >> > > >> > Some of you are at the stage of needing to consider > >> > what power > >> > to use in your project, and are looking for a good > >> > buy on the Rotax 912 > >> > series, but I have notice quite a lot of discussion > >> > about the problems > >> > associated with it's liquid cooling system, and > >> > other issues. > >> > Why not use the Franklin 125hp engine, which is > >> > available at a > >> > price that is hard to believe, because of it's > >> > modest level, > >> > comparatively ($6,900). They even are aware of our > >> > Kitfoxes according > >> > to their ads, so why aren't we seeing these > >> > installations talked about > >> > on our list, and articles in the magazines? I must > >> > confess, I don't > >> > understand why this engine isn't the main one guys > >> > are talking about now > >> > for airplanes in the class of the 5 thru 7 Kitfoxes. > >> > > >> > > >> > Duane Rueb > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:12 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: bungee gear toe in From: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com Come to think of it your are right and my terminology is wrong. I hope I don't have a toe in problem also but the left gear looks to be a more upright angle than the right and the left tire is on the outboard edge where the right tire is pretty much flat on the ground. I have read where some have bent the gear like you did, but the way my luck is going I am hesitant to give it a go. I kinda figured if I could essentially shim the thing from getting horizontal along the bottom of the cabin it may do the same thing. Looking for opinions and appreciate your feedback. Thanks Mark ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:24:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: SV: Kitfox-List: I flew today From: Lynn Matteson --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson Speaking of crosswinds, I've had a little trouble taxiing my IV (tailwheel w/Grove gear, and Jabiru engine with the normal CW rotation viewed from the seat) and making a left turn with a right-rear quartering wind. No amount of left rudder/brake combination seems to be able to overcome the wind during this maneuver. I haven't been lucky enough to have a calm day to practice my taxiing, and both days that I did, the wind was the same....about 12-15. Is there a "demonstrated crosswind handling ability" published for these planes? I haven't seen it if it is. I'm still learning to fly, and have only 2.3 hours instruction in a tailwheel 180 and only 1.3 hrs taxiing in the 'fox, in addition to about 34 hrs in other models (trikes). Lynn On Thursday, January 26, 2006, at 05:09 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe > > Thanks for the story, Mike. It's always pleasant to read about other's > experience and you are a good narrator. > > Regarding the camlocks, those little wonders have a tendency to > disappear when you remove your cowling. I always carry a couple of > spares in my on-board toolbag. > > I have also been surprised by turbulences on nice winter days. I think > that, with the snow, no thermal is happening and there is often an > inversion with slightly warmer air say, above 500 ft AGL. As wind > moves faster up there, it creates turbulences in the transition layer. > As you said, it gets better once we get higher. > > Regarding crosswind langind, with my model 3, I found out that my > limit is 12 knots crosswind component. If the ATIS reported wind was > correct that day, that's the wind at which my plane will gently veer > into the wind, at the end of a landing, even with my foot pushing the > rudder to its stop, the other way. > > Cheers, > Michel > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:40 AM PST US From: "Jose M. Toro" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re:NEW BUNGEES FOR MY CLASSIC IV.... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" Saludos Pedro: You could get advice from the listers on how to make it yourself. You can get the material from Aircraft Spruce. However, you can order a "ready" pair from Steve Winder at Airdale, www.airdale.com. Do you think your plane will be ready this summer? Hopefully, mine will be "back in busines" with the Jabiru 2200 on March. Looking forward to fly side by side. Cuidate! Jose M. Toro, P.E. Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200 "A slow flight in the Caribbean..." ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:42 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: bungee gear toe in --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" LLoyd, My understanding also and your snowmobile experience is a good analogy on the destabilizing effect of toe in. Lowell ------Original Message ----- From: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@Chartermi.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:21 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: bungee gear toe in > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net> > > Mark, > I had a model IV with the tube gear, be it right or wrong I used a pipe > over > my axle to torque the gear leg to the desired position. The tire standing > more upright I think is actually referred to the camber of which I set > mine > to straight up with the bungie tight. The toe in which I reference as the > distance between the front of the tires tighter than the distance between > the rear of the tires I set to straight to slightly toed out. My reasoning > for this was from my days racing snowmobiles and setting up the skis, If > you > have the skis toed in (fronts closed than the rear) and were making a left > turn and had your weight thrown so it loaded the outside ski your machine > would dart left while your body inertia was heading right and off you go. > I > think we can apply the same reasoning to the landing gear especially with > the wings hanging out there it is easy to get one wheel loaded more than > the > other as the plane rocks and roll out or if you land slightly crabbed I > think you can experience the same thing. Either way that is how and why I > set my gear the way I did, I flew it for over 4 years in all weather and > field conditions and never had an incident or on set of a ground loop. I > am > sure others will chime in with their experiences (and I hope they do) > Enjoy. > Lloyd > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:09 PM > Subject: Kitfox-List: bungee gear toe in > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com >> >> I am replacing both tube gear on my KF 2 with recently purchased used >> gear. >> Both gear look undamaged at all, but the left gear looks to be toed in >> [more upright] than the right. May sound stupid but if this is the case >> could this be fixed by putting a thicker rubber cushion on the bungee end >> to keep the gear from pulling as far up when the bungees are tight? Has >> anyone ever tried this or have any opinions, from reading some of the >> archives this seems to have been a fairly common problem. Thanks Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:44:11 AM PST US From: tcfosser@aol.com Subject: Kitfox-List: fuel sticker --> Kitfox-List message posted by: tcfosser@aol.com I saw somewhere that someone had a picture to download for fuel gauges. You could print it and stick it behind the sight gauges to show the fuel remaining. Anyone know where I could find it again? Tim ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:13:54 PM PST US From: "PEDRO PEREZ" <5324@PRTC.NET> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re:NEW BUNGEES FOR MY CLASSIC IV.... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "PEDRO PEREZ" <5324@PRTC.NET> SALUDOS : JOSE YO ESTOY CASI LISTO SOLO ME FALTAN LOS CACHARROS PARA ENFRIAR LOS CILINDROS.... ENVIA TU EMAIL PARA QUE RECIBAS FOTOS.. EL MIO ES : 5324@PRTC.NET PEDRO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jose M. Toro" Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re:NEW BUNGEES FOR MY CLASSIC IV.... > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" > > Saludos Pedro: > > You could get advice from the listers on how to make > it yourself. You can get the material from Aircraft > Spruce. However, you can order a "ready" pair from > Steve Winder at Airdale, www.airdale.com. > > Do you think your plane will be ready this summer? > Hopefully, mine will be "back in busines" with the > Jabiru 2200 on March. Looking forward to fly side by > side. > > Cuidate! > > Jose M. Toro, P.E. > Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200 > "A slow flight in the Caribbean..." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:03:58 PM PST US From: "Paul Peerenboom" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: I flew today --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Peerenboom" Congratulations Mike. I am over in New London with a Model IV. Hope to see you this summer. Paul N102DG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Ford" Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: I flew today > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Ford > > Well, I made it up today. I took a half day off in order to take > advantage of this nice weather. Ive been watching the weather and the > wind was forecast to die down to about 5 mph around 3pm, but it didn't. > Not in Wausau anyway. > > After preflight and engine warm up I headed out to runway 30. > > I announced and was rolling on 30, then ping, I see a little cowling > fastener pop off. I immediately aborted the take-off and back taxied. I > taxied the plane off the runway, shut it off and parked the plane off the > taxiway in the snow. > > Dang. > > Luckily, I only had to walk the first 1/10th of the runway when I happened > to look back for traffic and saw a metallic glimmer. I had already > passed that tiny fastener, but not by much. > > Whew. > > Well, I fastened it back in the cowl and once again prepared to take off. > I am still fairly new to my tail wheel Kitfox. I really didnt want to > take off if the winds were going to be moderate crosswind, as I havent > really had too much time practicing them. The practice that I did have > was several months ago. > Well, after a safe, but fairly wobbly take-off, I was up in the air and > found the air to be a little more turbulent than I was expecting. > > I decided landing right now might not be the best thing. I knew I had > plenty of fuel, so I decided to fly east for a while and practice > maneuvers. > After about an hour of practice I was starting to get a pretty good > feel for the plane again. The bumps where a little less at altitude, but > I was also getting used to them. > > After about an hour, the wind at Wausau still hadnt subsided. So, I > decided to kill some time by flying over to Merrill. Merrills runways > were a little more favorable given the wind direction. The wind was also a > bit calmer there. > There was still a small crosswind at Merrill. After a slightly bouncy, > but otherwise un-eventful landing at Merrill, I felt a bit more emboldened > with crosswind landings. > > > After a short break at Merrill I headed back to Wausau. I was feeling much > better about the crosswind landing to come. > > The wind at Wausau was only slightly calmer than it had been earlier. > However, I felt I could handle it. It was getting dark and Id rather put > my bird back in her Wausau nest if possible. > > I found downwind, base, and then a nice long final for 30. I wanted a > long final so that I could get set up a ways out and get a good feel for > the wind on approach. Again, I had a little bounce, but otherwise safe > landing. > > > Ahh. > > Another day, another couple of small crosswind landings under my belt. > > > THAT felt good! > > Mike > Model IV speedster > > > --------------------------------- > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:28:06 PM PST US From: Gary Olson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: I flew today --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson Hey, You guys should try flying south a couple of miles. We have got a S7 going together down here in Oshkosh with late spring being the target for completion. Gary Olson Paul Peerenboom wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Peerenboom" Congratulations Mike. I am over in New London with a Model IV. Hope to see you this summer. Paul N102DG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Ford" Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: I flew today > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Ford > > Well, I made it up today. I took a half day off in order to take > advantage of this nice weather. Ive been watching the weather and the > wind was forecast to die down to about 5 mph around 3pm, but it didn't. > Not in Wausau anyway. > > After preflight and engine warm up I headed out to runway 30. > > I announced and was rolling on 30, then ping, I see a little cowling > fastener pop off. I immediately aborted the take-off and back taxied. I > taxied the plane off the runway, shut it off and parked the plane off the > taxiway in the snow. > > Dang. > > Luckily, I only had to walk the first 1/10th of the runway when I happened > to look back for traffic and saw a metallic glimmer. I had already > passed that tiny fastener, but not by much. > > Whew. > > Well, I fastened it back in the cowl and once again prepared to take off. > I am still fairly new to my tail wheel Kitfox. I really didnt want to > take off if the winds were going to be moderate crosswind, as I havent > really had too much time practicing them. The practice that I did have > was several months ago. > Well, after a safe, but fairly wobbly take-off, I was up in the air and > found the air to be a little more turbulent than I was expecting. > > I decided landing right now might not be the best thing. I knew I had > plenty of fuel, so I decided to fly east for a while and practice > maneuvers. > After about an hour of practice I was starting to get a pretty good > feel for the plane again. The bumps where a little less at altitude, but > I was also getting used to them. > > After about an hour, the wind at Wausau still hadnt subsided. So, I > decided to kill some time by flying over to Merrill. Merrills runways > were a little more favorable given the wind direction. The wind was also a > bit calmer there. > There was still a small crosswind at Merrill. After a slightly bouncy, > but otherwise un-eventful landing at Merrill, I felt a bit more emboldened > with crosswind landings. > > > After a short break at Merrill I headed back to Wausau. I was feeling much > better about the crosswind landing to come. > > The wind at Wausau was only slightly calmer than it had been earlier. > However, I felt I could handle it. It was getting dark and Id rather put > my bird back in her Wausau nest if possible. > > I found downwind, base, and then a nice long final for 30. I wanted a > long final so that I could get set up a ways out and get a good feel for > the wind on approach. Again, I had a little bounce, but otherwise safe > landing. > > > Ahh. > > Another day, another couple of small crosswind landings under my belt. > > > THAT felt good! > > Mike > Model IV speedster > > > --------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:16:21 PM PST US From: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@Chartermi.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 Vibration --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net> Thanks Jim, we will definitely do that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Shumaker" Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 12:11 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 Vibration > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker > > > lloyd > > It is not likely that the engine was damaged due to a prop strike with a > wooden prop. Wooden props usually shatter before they transmit damaging > forces to the engine. Try a different prop. Also look for a difference > in tracking along different sections of the blades. That is, if both > blades are set at the same angle using the GSC protractor, they may not be > set at the same angle. Check for proper tracking of the prop and check it > for tracking at a couple of different points. They blades may not be a > perfect match at all points along the blades. > > Jim Shumaker > > Cudnohufsky's <7suds@Chartermi.net> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net> > > Group, > A friend of mine is working on a Pulsar with a 912UL 80 hp. It dropped a > wheel off the runway when turning around and had a slight prop strike. The > prop was a GSC 2 blade wood ground adjust. Upon inspection there was no > evidence of the strike so the prop was removed and sent to the Mfg. for > inspection which revealed micro fractures to the prop end. The prop was > replaced and there is now a slight vibration at low RPM, higher RPM seems > to > be smoother. The prop was removed and balance checked, balanced and > replaced > but vibration still there. The question he would like to ask is what do > you > feel he should look at, check, replace in the motor? Also, are the 912 > cranks solid or are they pressed together? > Thanks for any direction I can pass on, > Lloyd > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:21:39 PM PST US From: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@Chartermi.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: bungee gear toe in --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net> Mark, Only thing I can think of about shimming is if it needs allot it will make that leg shorter to the ground and farther out from center causing the plane to sit tilted on the runway and the centerline of the aircraft to be offset from the centerline of the gear. Again it would depend how much you needed to shim it. Lloyd ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:47 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: bungee gear toe in > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com > > > Come to think of it your are right and my terminology is wrong. I hope I > don't have a toe in problem also but the left gear looks to be a more > upright angle than the right and the left tire is on the outboard edge > where the right tire is pretty much flat on the ground. I have read where > some have bent the gear like you did, but the way my luck is going I am > hesitant to give it a go. I kinda figured if I could essentially shim the > thing from getting horizontal along the bottom of the cabin it may do the > same thing. Looking for opinions and appreciate your feedback. Thanks Mark > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:39:28 PM PST US From: "Jeremy Casey" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" Moving the motor 5" is a VERY SIGNIFICANT change!!! If the C.G. was close to right before then something else had to move...(battery to the tail?) I understand the reasoning for more room behind the engine...the RANS S7 FWF is about 10 pounds of ____ in a 5 pound can...requires a left handed midget who amputated his pinky and ring finger to get somethings in there... (Remember the S7 uses the same motor on a firewall about 23" wide ;-) Just trying to get educated in the ways of Kitfox...history of why things were changed explains lots of stuff when your building a kit that is 2 models old. Jeremy Casey -----Original Message----- From: jdmcbean [mailto:jdmcbean@cableone.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" Jeremy, The differences are significant.. The Series 7 FWF reduces the installation time by as much as 60%. The engine also moved forward about 5". Have a Safe New Year !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Casey Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:50 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" Could some of you folks that know such things, point me to a couple of representative pictures of the series 6 and 7 fwf installations? Trying to see what is different...I found several FWF pictures on the Sportflight site, but don't know what version I'm looking at. Jeremy Casey ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:46:21 PM PST US Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 Vibration From: "Rueb, Duane" --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane" Lloyd Remember that the Rotax 912 uses a gearbox for final drive to the propeller, so if any damage was sustained by the prop strike, it would be to the output shaft of the gearbox, not the engines crankshaft. Even though wooden props tend to not transmit damage, it is still possible, and it sounds like your friend may have a bent propeller shaft. He needs to have it checked by someone who can put a dial indicator on it. Duane -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cudnohufsky's Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 Vibration --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net> Thanks Jim, we will definitely do that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Shumaker" Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 12:11 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 Vibration > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker > > > lloyd > > It is not likely that the engine was damaged due to a prop strike with a > wooden prop. Wooden props usually shatter before they transmit damaging > forces to the engine. Try a different prop. Also look for a difference > in tracking along different sections of the blades. That is, if both > blades are set at the same angle using the GSC protractor, they may not be > set at the same angle. Check for proper tracking of the prop and check it > for tracking at a couple of different points. They blades may not be a > perfect match at all points along the blades. > > Jim Shumaker > > Cudnohufsky's <7suds@Chartermi.net> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net> > > Group, > A friend of mine is working on a Pulsar with a 912UL 80 hp. It dropped a > wheel off the runway when turning around and had a slight prop strike. The > prop was a GSC 2 blade wood ground adjust. Upon inspection there was no > evidence of the strike so the prop was removed and sent to the Mfg. for > inspection which revealed micro fractures to the prop end. The prop was > replaced and there is now a slight vibration at low RPM, higher RPM seems > to > be smoother. The prop was removed and balance checked, balanced and > replaced > but vibration still there. The question he would like to ask is what do > you > feel he should look at, check, replace in the motor? Also, are the 912 > cranks solid or are they pressed together? > Thanks for any direction I can pass on, > Lloyd > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:05:05 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: looking for tailwheel spring From: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com I have a maule tail wheel on my KF 2 and the spring is steel two leaf, looks to be a bit heavier than needed the wheel and leaf assembly weighs a little over ten pounds the leaf spring weighs 5 lbs by itself. Anybody know of a source for aluminum or some sort of composite leaf spring on the market and what tailwheel recommendation as far as light weight. I need to shed as much weight to keep my aft CG in check as I can. Thanks Mark ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:02:19 PM PST US From: Alan & Linda Daniels Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels I think the problem was that the 5,6 with the Rotax was not heavy enough up front, and it limited how much you could put in the cargo area. The 5 inches made it a better balanced plane, but when I built my 5 with a 7 FWF which I made as light as I could and set the max. weight at 1320, I decided that I would be better off to use 1 degree of forward wing sweep. I also put an oversized elevator on for more slow speed authority. I don't know how much the 1 degree helped as I could roll the tail wheel before the mains on my standard 7 about as easy as I can with my 57. Jeremy Casey wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" > >Moving the motor 5" is a VERY SIGNIFICANT change!!! If the C.G. was >close to right before then something else had to move...(battery to the >tail?) > >I understand the reasoning for more room behind the engine...the RANS S7 >FWF is about 10 pounds of ____ in a 5 pound can...requires a left handed >midget who amputated his pinky and ring finger to get somethings in >there... (Remember the S7 uses the same motor on a firewall about 23" >wide ;-) > >Just trying to get educated in the ways of Kitfox...history of why >things were changed explains lots of stuff when your building a kit that >is 2 models old. > >Jeremy Casey > > >-----Original Message----- >From: jdmcbean [mailto:jdmcbean@cableone.net] >Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:35 AM >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" > >Jeremy, > The differences are significant.. The Series 7 FWF reduces the >installation >time by as much as 60%. The engine also moved forward about 5". > >Have a Safe New Year !! >John & Debra McBean >www.sportplanellc.com >"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Casey >Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:50 AM >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" > >Could some of you folks that know such things, point me to a couple of >representative pictures of the series 6 and 7 fwf installations? Trying >to see what is different...I found several FWF pictures on the >Sportflight site, but don't know what version I'm looking at. > >Jeremy Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:06 PM PST US From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" Jeremy, I have the S-7 firewall forward on my Series 5. Moving the 912S ahead does move the CG ahead. But that was the purpose! Because the engine is light, this is needed to allow the full use of the 150 lb capacity of the baggage area. My plane is light and I established a 16 lb tool kit (that I like to have anyway) as required equipment. This keeps me in balance when solo with minimum fuel. Randy - Series 5/7 912S . -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Casey Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:39 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" Moving the motor 5" is a VERY SIGNIFICANT change!!! If the C.G. was close to right before then something else had to move...(battery to the tail?) I understand the reasoning for more room behind the engine...the RANS S7 FWF is about 10 pounds of ____ in a 5 pound can...requires a left handed midget who amputated his pinky and ring finger to get somethings in there... (Remember the S7 uses the same motor on a firewall about 23" wide ;-) Just trying to get educated in the ways of Kitfox...history of why things were changed explains lots of stuff when your building a kit that is 2 models old. Jeremy Casey -----Original Message----- From: jdmcbean [mailto:jdmcbean@cableone.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" Jeremy, The differences are significant.. The Series 7 FWF reduces the installation time by as much as 60%. The engine also moved forward about 5". Have a Safe New Year !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Casey Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:50 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" Could some of you folks that know such things, point me to a couple of representative pictures of the series 6 and 7 fwf installations? Trying to see what is different...I found several FWF pictures on the Sportflight site, but don't know what version I'm looking at. Jeremy Casey ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:00 PM PST US From: "Jeremy Casey" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" Alan...seems that forward sweep would aggravate an aft CG condition? Did you mean rearward sweep? -----Original Message----- From: Alan & Linda Daniels [mailto:aldaniels@fmtc.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:01 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels I think the problem was that the 5,6 with the Rotax was not heavy enough up front, and it limited how much you could put in the cargo area. The 5 inches made it a better balanced plane, but when I built my 5 with a 7 FWF which I made as light as I could and set the max. weight at 1320, I decided that I would be better off to use 1 degree of forward wing sweep. I also put an oversized elevator on for more slow speed authority. I don't know how much the 1 degree helped as I could roll the tail wheel before the mains on my standard 7 about as easy as I can with my 57. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:10:15 PM PST US From: "Milt's Kitfox Stuff" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Milt's Kitfox Stuff" Deke, I'll have to break out the digital camera and take some pictures. Back when I did the work all I had was 35mm.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fox5flyer" Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 6:36 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" > > Do you have any photos you can put on Sportflight.com/uploads Milt? I'm > having trouble getting a visual on what you're describing. > Deke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Milt's Kitfox Stuff" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:12 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Milt's Kitfox Stuff" > >> >> I used the Ellison TBI and made a plenum box with the air entry on the > right >> rear side of the "box" (which is actually shaped sort of like a tear drop >> with the pointy part coming out to the right of the oil resevoir). I >> used > a >> NACA vent on the side of the lower cowl to bring air in to a carb heat >> box >> mounted to the RH firewall footwell. More than one way to skin a cat, >> but >> it will still be a while before I can claim success... >> >> Milt >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:12 PM >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 >> >> >> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: tcfosser@aol.com >> > >> > Deke, I am using the "straight" cowl for the 0-235. It has been a > while >> > but I believe iI ordered the firewall forward kit for the O-235 and >> > then >> > had Franklin make me a mount. But everything else such as the cowls, >> > firewall, etc fit very well with the Franklin. The carburater is about >> > the only thing I have had to engineer myself and again I have not run > the >> > engine yet but I ordered the Aero-vee carb from Sonex which is a fairly >> > simple and straightforward carb. I was planning on using the Ellison > carb >> > but it requires a straight run of airflow that I could not figure out a >> > way to make work. I will soon see if I made a good decision or not! >> > >> > Tim >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Fox5flyer >> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> > Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:35:24 -0500 >> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 >> > >> > >> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" > >> > >> > Will this work with the round cowl Tim? Which cowl are you using? >> > Deke >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: >> > To: >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:04 PM >> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 >> > >> > >> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: tcfosser@aol.com >> >> >> >> I am installing a Franklin in my Model V. I have yet to start it but > am >> > getting close. So far it has been a perfect fit for the V. The guys >> > in >> > Fort Collins that sell the Franklin made up a mount for the Kitfox >> > along >> > with an exhaust and the quality has been top notch. So far I have not > had >> > any surprises mounting it but again, iI have yet to run it. Any > questions >> > about it let me know. >> >> >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Rueb, Duane >> >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> >> Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:05:49 -0800 >> >> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 >> >> >> >> >> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane" > >> >> >> >> Kurt: >> >> >> >> I believe that the engines are built in Poland, and may include >> >> some improvements in quality over the old design, but I do not >> >> actually >> >> know this, but my point was to raise some awareness, and to get some >> >> discussion going. If they are junk, then that needs to be said, but I >> >> just found it to be odd that no discussion at all was going on about >> >> them, while people are busy adapting car engines, and working with >> >> liquid cooling systems. Have the magazines done any articles on them? >> >> As Lowell says, it could become an engineering project to do the >> >> installation, but some of the guys who are in the group could be up to >> >> it. It could even turn out that there are reasons that it would not >> >> be >> >> a good solution, but we wouldn't know this without some discussion and >> >> information transfer. >> >> >> >> Duane >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >> >> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt >> >> schrader >> >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:16 PM >> >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 >> >> >> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader >> >> >> >> >> >> I looked at Franklins back when I was trying to decide >> >> about my engine. They haven't gotten over the >> >> reputation of being 300 hr TBO engines, I guess. I >> >> thought someone on this list had one though. Any >> >> current experience out there? >> >> >> >> Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo >> >> >> >> --- "Rueb, Duane" wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Some of you are at the stage of needing to consider >> >> > what power >> >> > to use in your project, and are looking for a good >> >> > buy on the Rotax 912 >> >> > series, but I have notice quite a lot of discussion >> >> > about the problems >> >> > associated with it's liquid cooling system, and >> >> > other issues. >> >> > Why not use the Franklin 125hp engine, which is >> >> > available at a >> >> > price that is hard to believe, because of it's >> >> > modest level, >> >> > comparatively ($6,900). They even are aware of our >> >> > Kitfoxes according >> >> > to their ads, so why aren't we seeing these >> >> > installations talked about >> >> > on our list, and articles in the magazines? I must >> >> > confess, I don't >> >> > understand why this engine isn't the main one guys >> >> > are talking about now >> >> > for airplanes in the class of the 5 thru 7 Kitfoxes. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Duane Rueb >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:54:14 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: fuel sticker --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan At 11:43 AM 1/26/2006, you wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: tcfosser@aol.com > >I saw somewhere that someone had a picture to download for fuel >gauges. You could print it and stick it behind the sight gauges to show >the fuel remaining. Anyone know where I could find it again? http://murlewilliamsaviation.com/ Has some. I thought there were others that were color and more attractive and had both ground and flight levels. Maybe someone else will come forward with another source. Guy Buchanan K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:19:39 PM PST US From: Alan & Linda Daniels Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels Forward wing sweep does move the center of lift forward and give a different CG envelope. I did it as I do not intend to use the 150 pound limit in the cargo compartment and wanted it better balanced for light operations. Loaded very light without anything in the cargo compartment puts you forward of or close to the forward limit. My wife can fly it for fun alone and still get a good flair, or we can load it up and go camping with a cargo limit of something like 120 pounds in the cargo bay. I normally do not carry bricks or sacks of cement so that is not a problem. Like I said, I am not sure it really did much. I can tell you that when my wife flies the Kitfox, the plane is not the only fox flying. Jeremy Casey wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" > >Alan...seems that forward sweep would aggravate an aft CG condition? >Did you mean rearward sweep? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alan & Linda Daniels [mailto:aldaniels@fmtc.com] >Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:01 PM >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Series 6 vs. Series 7 FWF... > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels > > >I think the problem was that the 5,6 with the Rotax was not heavy enough > >up front, and it limited how much you could put in the cargo area. The 5 > >inches made it a better balanced plane, but when I built my 5 with a 7 >FWF which I made as light as I could and set the max. weight at 1320, I >decided that I would be better off to use 1 degree of forward wing >sweep. I also put an oversized elevator on for more slow speed >authority. I don't know how much the 1 degree helped as I could roll the > >tail wheel before the mains on my standard 7 about as easy as I can with > >my 57. > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:22:54 PM PST US From: Alan & Linda Daniels Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: fuel sticker --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels John McBean has them . Skystar had them on a PDF file you could print yourself. I did to save them as I had a computed crash a while back, but the color ones have a pattern that changes when seen through the full fuel tube so it is easy to see the level. Guy Buchanan wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan > >At 11:43 AM 1/26/2006, you wrote: > > >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: tcfosser@aol.com >> >>I saw somewhere that someone had a picture to download for fuel >>gauges. You could print it and stick it behind the sight gauges to show >>the fuel remaining. Anyone know where I could find it again? >> >> > >http://murlewilliamsaviation.com/ > >Has some. I thought there were others that were color and more attractive >and had both ground and flight levels. Maybe someone else will come forward >with another source. > > >Guy Buchanan >K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:26 PM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: Kitfox-List: Calling Don --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" Don, Please give me a shout.. Your email keeps getting kicked back to me... Have a Safe New Year !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:47:35 PM PST US From: "Tim Vader" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: looking for tailwheel spring --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tim Vader" Mark I opted for the Matco tailwheel (5 lbs) and got a one piece aluminum spring from Grove Aircraft. Looks good and performs well. Tim Vader ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:17 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: looking for tailwheel spring > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com > > I have a maule tail wheel on my KF 2 and the spring is steel two leaf, > looks to be a bit heavier than needed the wheel and leaf assembly weighs a > little over ten pounds the leaf spring weighs 5 lbs by itself. Anybody > know > of a source for aluminum or some sort of composite leaf spring on the > market and what tailwheel recommendation as far as light weight. I need to > shed as much weight to keep my aft CG in check as I can. Thanks Mark > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 10:07:45 PM PST US From: kurt schrader Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: power for models 5, 6, 7 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader You are right. I was just trying to speculate as to why they are't more popular. I agree that they sound like a great match on the 5-7's and the price is even better. People just seem to be afraid to try them. Kurt S. --- "Rueb, Duane" wrote: > > Kurt: > > I believe that the engines are built in Poland, and > may include > some improvements in quality over the old design, > but I do not actually > know this, but my point was to raise some awareness, > and to get some > discussion going. If they are junk, then that needs > to be said, but I > just found it to be odd that no discussion at all > was going on about > them, while people are busy adapting car engines, > and working with > liquid cooling systems. Have the magazines done any > articles on them? > As Lowell says, it could become an engineering > project to do the > installation, but some of the guys who are in the > group could be up to > it. It could even turn out that there are reasons > that it would not be > a good solution, but we wouldn't know this without > some discussion and > information transfer. > > Duane ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 10:27:07 PM PST US From: "Don Pearsall" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Calling Don --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" Don who? Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:24 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Calling Don --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" Don, Please give me a shout.. Your email keeps getting kicked back to me... Have a Safe New Year !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 11:13:30 PM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Calling Don --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" Guess I should be more specific... I was actually calling you... Don Pearsall.. Please contact me off-list... Have a Safe New Year !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Pearsall Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 11:25 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Calling Don --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" Don who? Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:24 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Calling Don --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" Don, Please give me a shout.. Your email keeps getting kicked back to me... Have a Safe New Year !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"