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1. 06:30 AM - Re: Re: dorsal fin (Eric)
2. 10:03 AM - Re: dorsal fin (Michael Gibbs)
3. 11:27 AM - Tow Bar (Donald STEVENSON)
4. 11:47 AM - Re: Tow Bar (Jay Fabian)
5. 12:41 PM - Re: Tow Bar (Alan & Linda Daniels)
6. 12:58 PM - Re: Tow Bar (Ron Liebmann)
7. 01:19 PM - Re: Demonstrated crosswind capability (Lynn Matteson)
8. 05:00 PM - Re: Tow Bar (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
9. 07:58 PM - Re: Re: New Bungees for model 4 (ROBERT E SIMON)
10. 08:55 PM - Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics! (Matt Dralle)
11. 10:02 PM - Re: Tow Bar (ron schick)
12. 10:07 PM - Re: Tow Bar (James Shumaker)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Eric" <iworonko@cox.net>
thanks to all who responded to my Dorsal fin question
Eric
IV Speedster
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Billingsley" <dan@azshowersolutions.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: dorsal fin
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dan Billingsley
> <dan@azshowersolutions.com>
>
> Hey Mike,
> Did you get your 6 back from powder-coating yet?
> Dan B.
> Mesa
>
>
> Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs
>
> I'm not sure if this is what you are referring to as a "dorsal fin,"
> but on my Model IV-1200 Murle Williams welded a piece of 4130 tubing
> from just behind the turtledeck to the base of the vertical
> stabilizer. I usually refer to it as a dorsal fin. :-)
>
> We found that this made applying the fuselage fabric easier in the
> area at the base of the vertical tail. The increase in surface area
> also slightly increases yaw stability and, in my opinion, improves
> the aesthetics.
>
> We just got through welding a similar piece onto the fuselage of my Series
> 6.
>
> Mike G.
> N728KF
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Dan B. sez:
>Did you get your 6 back from powder-coating yet?
Yeah, Dan, just yesterday. They did a beautiful job! :-)
Mike G.
N728KF
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
Hi again Everyone, Once I get my M4 Speedster finished
in late spring (I hope) I will be keeping it in my
garage at home as I live less then three miles from
our local airport and flying club, I was looking for
information an using the KitFox type tow bar that
attaches to the rear of the a/c. I would love to hear
from anyone who has used one, either good or bad. I'm
not sure if I should go this route of should consider
a modified boat trailer. Maybe your comments will help
make up my mind. Thanks, Don.
M4/1200-912 Speedster
Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario, Canada
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian" <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
I borrowed one to move my fox from PYM right after 911. It was next to a
NUKE, so no flying out of there.
I towed it about 15 miles( slowly but it went great.)
I passed two different set of cops.
1- looked at me and dropped his head as I was just about to leave his town.
2- the other one passed me going the other way and nearly Broke his neck,
but no tickets.
It is techniclly registered, but you would have to find out for sure, I
donot think they would even want to figure it out.
Jay
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald STEVENSON" <shericom@rogers.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 2:24 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tow Bar
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
>
> Hi again Everyone, Once I get my M4 Speedster finished
> in late spring (I hope) I will be keeping it in my
> garage at home as I live less then three miles from
> our local airport and flying club, I was looking for
> information an using the KitFox type tow bar that
> attaches to the rear of the a/c. I would love to hear
> from anyone who has used one, either good or bad. I'm
> not sure if I should go this route of should consider
> a modified boat trailer. Maybe your comments will help
> make up my mind. Thanks, Don.
>
> M4/1200-912 Speedster
> Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario, Canada
>
>
> --
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
I have one for my 5 and it does a good job. I would think the deciding
factor would be traffic and roads. I am in a very rural area and it
works good. Some drivers are stupid and the sight of a plane going down
the road does not increase their IQ. I usually am a nervous wreck by the
time I get my 3 miles to the airport, but it is just the other drives,
the plane tracks good. I think a good enclosed trailer would be best as
you can store it safe and dry in there when not flying, but again it
depends on your needs. I am lucky in that I have a hangar at the
airport. Plug for ONO. We only charge 12 cents a square foot for the
hangar space on a 20 year rolling lease, and you build your own hangar.
Lease and property tax on my hangar big enough to put two planes in is
only about $300 a year. I understand this is better than most places.
Donald STEVENSON wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
>
>Hi again Everyone, Once I get my M4 Speedster finished
>in late spring (I hope) I will be keeping it in my
>garage at home as I live less then three miles from
>our local airport and flying club, I was looking for
>information an using the KitFox type tow bar that
>attaches to the rear of the a/c. I would love to hear
>from anyone who has used one, either good or bad. I'm
>not sure if I should go this route of should consider
>a modified boat trailer. Maybe your comments will help
>make up my mind. Thanks, Don.
>
>M4/1200-912 Speedster
>Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario, Canada
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Liebmann" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
No doubt that different states have their own laws but here in Illinois NO
licence plate is needed to tow a plane ON its own wheels. Just the red flag
hanging from the prop and lights if your vehicle lights are obscured..
I towed my Fox Model 2 on our tollway system for 38 miles at 45 miles per
hour. When I got to the test site I felt the wheels and they were warm to
the touch as were the tires. All else was fine too.
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Demonstrated crosswind capability |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Lowell, I think you came as close as anybody to hitting on the problem.
I was just out fiddling around with it in the workshop, and had it
jacked up and trying to unlock the tailwheel, when I realized that it
wouldn't break away as easily (by hand) to the left as to the right.
Then the light bulb in my head came on! I had installed the anti-shimmy
spring set, which has a stronger and a weaker spring, and the reason
that it wouldn't break away to the left is that the strong spring is on
the right, and that must be overcome before the tailwheel can break
away. I removed the unequal springs and reinstalled the equal strength
"bed springs" and now the tailwheel will break away with equal pressure
to either side. I hope this proves to be correct, but only by taxiing
will I know for sure, and it's too nasty outside to go to the field and
try it...maybe tomorrow. Thanks for all the input, folks.
Lynn
On Friday, January 27, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Lynn, I have landed in a consensus (flight of six) derived, over 25
> mph.
> the Kitfox has enough rudder authority to handle significant cross
> winds.
> My guess is that with a little practice you will develope the
> technique.
> Are you using the flaperons during taxi as you used when learning to
> fly?
>
> Is your tailwheel unlocking in your turn? You might check the chains
> for
> proper tension or the springs. Lots of theorys there.
>
> Lowell
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Malcolmbru@aol.com
if U plan to tow it a lot you could modify a trailer from the big box
store, by making the tong removable and replace it with one long and strong
enough to haul your plain, than switch it back when you need it to do
something else
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Cc: kitfox-list@matronics.com
| Subject: | Re: New Bungees for model 4 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: ROBERT E SIMON <bigbob196@juno.com>
Hi,
I am still waiting for your reply on the message sent. I am interested
in the Bun gee cords for the Fox IV.
Robert E.
Simon
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Don ask a cop , or whoever gives tickets, in Canada. We have overactive
state police in Oregon that love the "not DOT approved" that is molded into
most of the tires we use. Other than that I believe we can haul up to 800
lbs without licence. Washington requires a licence on all trailers towed by
vehicles with Washington plates. I have trailered mine several times.
Ron NB Ore
do not archive
>From: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
>To: Kitfox List <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Tow Bar
>Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:24:04 -0500 (EST)
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
>
>Hi again Everyone, Once I get my M4 Speedster finished
>in late spring (I hope) I will be keeping it in my
>garage at home as I live less then three miles from
>our local airport and flying club, I was looking for
>information an using the KitFox type tow bar that
>attaches to the rear of the a/c. I would love to hear
>from anyone who has used one, either good or bad. I'm
>not sure if I should go this route of should consider
>a modified boat trailer. Maybe your comments will help
>make up my mind. Thanks, Don.
>
>M4/1200-912 Speedster
>Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario, Canada
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Don
I towed my Model III to the airport every time I flew for about 4 years. I used
up a few pairs of tires, but I thought that was cheaper than a trailer. And
they were the cheap atv tires that were only designed for about half the load.
When I got a set of cheap golf cart tires the load rating was much higher,
the rubber thicker and they lasted a couple of years or more. Hitching and
unhitching did not take long. Maybe 15 or 20 mintes at each end. Not much longer
than pulling it out of a hanger, or so I thought. But when I finally got
a hanger I discovered it up it really does add about an hour to each flight.
I also got a bit of hanger rash from storing it at home. Mostly nicks and scraps.
But there really is an added risk for damage every time you fold the wings
out and fold them in. When there is wind, the whole operation gets even dicier.
The day I lost the turtle deck over the top of the wing ( it missed the
wing but hit the engine cowl) was the day I decided that a hanger was not that
expensive after all.
Oh, and don't tow with the tanks full of fuel. and make absolutely sure that
that you use the braces. The welded tabs can snap off so make sure that you
have a back up to the wing tip braces. Also, strap the elevator up (stick back
with the seat belts). That will help keep the wings from swinging open while
towing. Which leads to great damage.
Jim Shumaker
Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON
Hi again Everyone, Once I get my M4 Speedster finished
in late spring (I hope) I will be keeping it in my
garage at home as I live less then three miles from
our local airport and flying club, I was looking for
information an using the KitFox type tow bar that
attaches to the rear of the a/c. I would love to hear
from anyone who has used one, either good or bad. I'm
not sure if I should go this route of should consider
a modified boat trailer. Maybe your comments will help
make up my mind. Thanks, Don.
M4/1200-912 Speedster
Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario, Canada
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