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1. 03:20 AM - Re: which weld (Mark.Summers@lwbref.com)
2. 03:35 AM - Re: Trailing edge mod (Harold Flynn)
3. 06:33 AM - Re: nameplate location (Marco Menezes)
4. 09:31 AM - Tire Question (RAY Gignac)
5. 01:00 PM - Re: nameplate location (Lynn Matteson)
6. 04:41 PM - engine mount rubber pieces (Brett Walmsley)
7. 05:08 PM - engine mount steel bushing (Brett Walmsley)
8. 05:57 PM - Re: engine mount rubber pieces (jablackwell)
9. 07:33 PM - Re: engine mount steel bushing (RAY Gignac)
10. 07:49 PM - Recommended mods to my series 6 before covering? (scooby harrington)
11. 09:43 PM - Re: Recommended mods to my series 6 before covering? (ron schick)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
That is good info, I don't have any clusters to make I bought the aft 5 ft.
of a kf 4 and will inner splice the longerons and outer splice the 3/8"
cross braces between the two rear clusters. So you didn't post heat the
welds at all? I had planned to preheat the weld area just too hot to touch
and maybe post heat about the same and wrap with fireblanket to slow cool.
I bet you don't remember the wire type and which gas you used do you?
Thanks Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Trailing edge mod |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Harold Flynn <hflynn46531@yahoo.com>
Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn
Matteson
3/8" arrow shafts, Ron? Wow, that seems huge. My Dad was an archer and
I've got a lot of his old arrows around here, mostly fiberglas, and
none are over 5/16".
I'd hate to be on the receiving end of a 3/8" arrow! : )
Anyway, I got 3/8" tubing from Aircraft Spruce, 6061-T6, item
#03-35500, $.99/ft., and I got two 12 ft lengths of it, because mine is
a Speedster with wings just 12' long each. I cut each to fit between
the ribs/rib caps.
Skystar manual calls for .028-.035" wall thickness. This is in the
Classic IV manual, Aug '03 revision. With this stiffening, SS says you
can go to 350 degrees on the fabric....that seems like a bit much to
me, and I quit at 310...very tight.
As far as how close to the ribs, I left mine short about 1/8" to allow
for any condensation to be free to find the drain holes in the fabric.
I smeared structural adhesive the length of the individual tubes, then
rolled them in the trailing edge, and rotated them to spread the epoxy.
Lynn
On Tuesday, February 7, 2006, at 04:32 PM, ron schick wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
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> The consensus of the group was that I should add the 3/8" aluminum
> tubing to
> my trailing edge before covering. As my manual does not cover this I
> was
> wondering how close to the ribs this should come. Any other tips?
> No
> 3/8" aluminum tubing in my town, but lots of used 3/8" aluminum arrow
> shafts. Thanks. Ron NB Ore
>
>On my S5 I used the the aluminum tubing off an old TV antnna. It was vary stiff
and light. I flattened one end to fit into the trailing edge and shaped the
other end to butt up to the rear wing spar.I placed them half way between each
rib and used glue to hold them in place.I heat shrunk my fabric to 375 with no
visable scaloping.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: nameplate location |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Hi Lynn.
Have you tried Art Nadobny, FAA safety inspector out of the Detroit MISO at Willow
Run? He's a great guy, drove 4 hours North to do my inspection and had no
problem with nameplate mounted under stab on the access cover of my model II.
Also, he scheduled me within a couple weeks of receiving the materials, unlike
Grand Rapids FSDO that needed 4 months to get to me. Maybe best of all . .
. he'll do your airworthiness inspection for free! Contact me off list if you'd
like his number.
Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
>From Pontiac, Michigan...I'm in Grass Lake, MI.
Lynn
On Tuesday, February 7, 2006, at 02:40 PM, ron schick wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
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> Good call Lynn. Where is your dar coming from?
> Ron NB Ore
> do not archive
>
>> From: Lynn Matteson
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: nameplate location
>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 07:11:29 -0500
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>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
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>> Thanks everybody for all the suggestions about the nameplate/data
>> plate
>> locations. I finally called my DAR-to-be and he wouldn't approve the
>> tail access covers, so I made a backing plate and placed it behind the
>> fabric, below and to the rear of the access cover on the left side,
>> and
>> far enough rearward to catch the vertical member that I had made to
>> streamline the fin/rudder junction. This member is aluminum, and I
>> caught two rivets in it, and the other two go through the fabric and
>> the backing plate. Very sturdy, and no chance of buffeting, I'm pretty
>> sure.
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>> Lynn
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Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com>
A friend of mine gave me a pair of brand new Air Trac 8.00-6 tires. I have a model
IV 1200 with a 912uls. Want to try these tire out. They look much like
the old slick tires but with lined tread. Anyone tried these before and was results
good?
Ray
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| Subject: | Re: nameplate location |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Thanks, Marco...I just sent an email your way.
Lynn
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On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, at 09:30 AM, Marco Menezes wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
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> Hi Lynn.
>
> Have you tried Art Nadobny, FAA safety inspector out of the Detroit
> MISO at Willow Run? He's a great guy, drove 4 hours North to do my
> inspection and had no problem with nameplate mounted under stab on the
> access cover of my model II. Also, he scheduled me within a couple
> weeks of receiving the materials, unlike Grand Rapids FSDO that needed
> 4 months to get to me. Maybe best of all . . . he'll do your
> airworthiness inspection for free! Contact me off list if you'd like
> his number.
>
> Marco Menezes
> Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | engine mount rubber pieces |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <n93hj@numail.org>
I am installing my 912 on my '95 model Classic IV.
The engine mount rubber pieces are 11 years old now. The engine has never been
hung on them but they are installed in the mount as per the manual.
I imagine they would need to be replaced. Could someone stear me to a source to
purchace new? Does ACS have them?
Thanks
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| Subject: | engine mount steel bushing |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <n93hj@numail.org>
I seem to recall a procedure to shorten the steeel bushing in the engine mount
to affectivly tighten the engine mount bushings more. Anyone else remember this?
Was it a service bulletin? or letter?.
Brett
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| Subject: | Re: engine mount rubber pieces |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: " jablackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
I think John McBean has them.
Do change them now. I just finished changing mine. A real pain.
Jimmie
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Brett Walmsley" <n93hj@numail.org>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley"
<n93hj@numail.org>
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>I am installing my 912 on my '95 model Classic IV.
>The engine mount rubber pieces are 11 years old now. The engine
has never been hung on them but they are installed in the mount as
per the manual.
>I imagine they would need to be replaced. Could someone stear me
to a source to purchace new? Does ACS have them?
>Thanks
>
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>
Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
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| Subject: | Re: engine mount steel bushing |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com>
I do remember that if your were upgrading the 912 mount, then the shorter steel
bushings were the required ones. You can shorten yours, I would have to look
at my specs to see what the new size was.
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: Brett Walmsley<mailto:n93hj@numail.org>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:06 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: engine mount steel bushing
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <n93hj@numail.org<mailto:n93hj@numail.org>>
I seem to recall a procedure to shorten the steeel bushing in the engine mount
to affectivly tighten the engine mount bushings more. Anyone else remember this?
Was it a service bulletin? or letter?.
Brett
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| Subject: | Recommended mods to my series 6 before covering? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "scooby harrington" <scoobytrash@hotmail.com>
I'm almost ready to cover now and I wanted to make sure that
I've added all the mods that people have recommended over
the years, here are the mods I have done:
1) reinforced horiz stab trim motor housing
2) added digital readout for trim position to replace
coil spring/pull cable indicator
3) reinforced wing trailing edge with 3/8" tubing
4) reinforced both seats with strap slings to keep seats
from contacting control tubes on hard landings
5) replace leakage prone hard plastic gas sighting tubes
I did the flapperon rigging and elevator rigging figuring it
would be much easier to do this before things got covered up,
I also installed the cargo floor for the same reason. I havent
done any of the firewall forward installation or instrument panel
work but it doesnt look like that will be any more difficult
after the bird is covered, is that accurate?
Anything that you wish you did before covering?
Thanks for your help!!!!
Scooby Harrington
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| Subject: | Recommended mods to my series 6 before covering? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
I had to modify my master cylinder to peddle clearance to allow the proper
position and stop application when rudder peddles were moved. It was nice to
have room. Elevator push pull tube bushing in, battery box? Ron NB Ore
do not archive
>From: "scooby harrington" <scoobytrash@hotmail.com>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Recommended mods to my series 6 before covering?
>Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 03:47:43 +0000
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "scooby harrington"
><scoobytrash@hotmail.com>
>
>I'm almost ready to cover now and I wanted to make sure that
>I've added all the mods that people have recommended over
>the years, here are the mods I have done:
>
>1) reinforced horiz stab trim motor housing
>2) added digital readout for trim position to replace
> coil spring/pull cable indicator
>3) reinforced wing trailing edge with 3/8" tubing
>4) reinforced both seats with strap slings to keep seats
> from contacting control tubes on hard landings
>5) replace leakage prone hard plastic gas sighting tubes
>
>I did the flapperon rigging and elevator rigging figuring it
>would be much easier to do this before things got covered up,
>I also installed the cargo floor for the same reason. I havent
>done any of the firewall forward installation or instrument panel
>work but it doesnt look like that will be any more difficult
>after the bird is covered, is that accurate?
>
>Anything that you wish you did before covering?
>
>Thanks for your help!!!!
>
>Scooby Harrington
>
>
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