---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/14/06: 28 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:51 AM - Re: VOR Antenna (Jim Burke) 2. 08:10 AM - Re: Preheating (Andrew Matthaey) 3. 08:10 AM - Re: Preheating (Andrew Matthaey) 4. 08:25 AM - Cabin Heat (Algate) 5. 10:26 AM - Re: Cabin Heat (wingnut) 6. 10:28 AM - Re: Preheating (wingnut) 7. 10:40 AM - Preheat 582 (Larry Martin) 8. 11:03 AM - Re: Re: Cabin Heat (Algate) 9. 11:58 AM - Re: Re: Cabin Heat (Lowell Fitt) 10. 12:34 PM - Re: Cabin Heat (wingnut) 11. 02:18 PM - Re: Preheating (Randy Daughenbaugh) 12. 02:46 PM - Re: Re: Cabin Heat (Lowell Fitt) 13. 02:55 PM - Re: Preheating (Alan & Linda Daniels) 14. 03:18 PM - Re: VOR Antenna (Jim Burke) 15. 03:24 PM - Cabin Heat (Sid Hausding) 16. 03:26 PM - Missing part (Gary Olson) 17. 03:34 PM - Re: cutting prop bolt threads (Business Address) 18. 04:04 PM - Re: Cabin Heat (wingnut) 19. 04:26 PM - Re: Re: Cabin Heat (Donna and Roger McConnell) 20. 04:51 PM - Re: Re: Cabin Heat (Brett Walmsley) 21. 05:40 PM - Model IV Wing Extensions (Your Name) 22. 06:49 PM - Ethanol in WA State (jdmcbean) 23. 06:56 PM - Re: Ethanol in WA State (Malcolmbru@AOL.COM) 24. 07:13 PM - Re: Ethanol in WA State (Herbert R Gottelt) 25. 07:13 PM - Re: Ethanol in WA State (Herbert R Gottelt) 26. 08:29 PM - Welcome (John King) 27. 08:29 PM - Re: Re: Cabin Heat (Lowell Fitt) 28. 10:26 PM - Welcome - was Cabin Heat (jdmcbean) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:33 AM PST US From: Jim Burke Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: VOR Antenna --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke Rick, Thanks so much for your offer. your antenna sounds great,but I prefer the wire type ver. the composite one. I have acquired the wire type from Kitfoxer in CO,the same one Skystar supplied with the Kitfox kit that mounts on the tail feathers. Thanks again for your offer,I will keep you in mind if I hear of someone needing a composite VOR antenna. Jim,N94JE ----- Original Message ----- From: "wingsdown" Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:25 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: VOR Antenna > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" > > I have a very nice one removed from my plane. It is a com nav with BNC > male connector, composite construction. > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Burke > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 5:33 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: VOR Antenna > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke > > I did fine one on E-Bay,but It required a balun. Unfortunately, it is > not > included. > > Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dee Young" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 8:19 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: VOR Antenna > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" >> >> Try EBay >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jim Burke >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 5:31 PM >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: VOR Antenna >> >> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke >> > >> >> Hi Guys, I know this is a odd request but,I'm looking for a VOR >> antenna complete, Or plans on how to make one. I think the wisker >> type in the shape of a V would be a good choice. I have added a RT >> 328D Com/Nav to my new panel and will need to install a Nav antenna. >> If someone could help me locate one or supply plans for >> building >> one I would very greatfull. >> >> Jim,N94JE >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:20 AM PST US From: "Andrew Matthaey" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Preheating --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" 200 hrs, ouch...I'll be flying the Cessna's and Arrows when it's that cold! Thanks for the battery info! Andrew >From: "Frank Miles" >To: >Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Preheating >Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:33:30 -0800 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Frank Miles" > > >Just got a new battery from: Sport Plane, LLC. $71.50 + shipping. > >I have heard it said that a starting a cold soaked engine at -20% C. >without >preheating is equal to 200 hours of time on an engine. Frank > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew >Matthaey >Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:59 PM >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Preheating > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" > > >Usually don't get to pre-heat...never had a problem, but I don't usually >fly > >the 'Fox too much when it's below 30 anyway. > >Funny thing, I was going to take my Crew Partner (Cockpit Resource Mgmt >Training in Multi-Engine Ops at school) flying low and slow...and the damn >battery turned the prop over once and kicked the bucket. NEVER had a >problem > >with it before...oh well. I hooked up the charger and started 'er up... > >Any ideas where I can get a good, inexpensive replacement? > >Thanks! >Andrew >KF3 582 68" GSC > > > >From: "Rich Williamson" > >To: > >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Preheating > >Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:48:16 -0500 > > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rich Williamson" > > > > >Pre heat below 40 F....!!!! We'd be preheating 6 months of the year in > >Maine.. When the temp gets -10 F , we just stay by the fire and self > >preheat... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > >-- > > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:20 AM PST US From: "Andrew Matthaey" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Preheating --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" 200 hrs, ouch...I'll be flying the Cessna's and Arrows when it's that cold! Thanks for the battery info! Andrew >From: "Frank Miles" >To: >Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Preheating >Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:33:30 -0800 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Frank Miles" > > >Just got a new battery from: Sport Plane, LLC. $71.50 + shipping. > >I have heard it said that a starting a cold soaked engine at -20% C. >without >preheating is equal to 200 hours of time on an engine. Frank > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew >Matthaey >Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:59 PM >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Preheating > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" > > >Usually don't get to pre-heat...never had a problem, but I don't usually >fly > >the 'Fox too much when it's below 30 anyway. > >Funny thing, I was going to take my Crew Partner (Cockpit Resource Mgmt >Training in Multi-Engine Ops at school) flying low and slow...and the damn >battery turned the prop over once and kicked the bucket. NEVER had a >problem > >with it before...oh well. I hooked up the charger and started 'er up... > >Any ideas where I can get a good, inexpensive replacement? > >Thanks! >Andrew >KF3 582 68" GSC > > > >From: "Rich Williamson" > >To: > >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Preheating > >Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:48:16 -0500 > > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rich Williamson" > > > > >Pre heat below 40 F....!!!! We'd be preheating 6 months of the year in > >Maine.. When the temp gets -10 F , we just stay by the fire and self > >preheat... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > >-- > > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:09 AM PST US From: "Algate" Subject: Kitfox-List: Cabin Heat --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" I purchased the small cabin heater from Skystar and although it takes a bit of the chill off your toes it does almost nothing to heat the cabin at -20 degC OAT. Dave Fisher (another Kitfox pilot) told me about his setup and it works great. I used a small Tupperware container (about 6" x 3") and drilled cut 2 x 1-1/2" holes in the bottom and then used two x plastic ties to strap it the rear of my engine rad. From the two holes I ran two lengths of plastic shed Vac hose up through the bungee openings into the cabin. The heated air pumps out under your knees and brings the air temp up in the cab about 20 degC. For even more heat he suggested a simple muffler heater which ducts air into the cab at your feet and last weekend at -12 deg OAT it registered + 15 in the Cabin. GaryA Lite2/582 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:26:34 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat From: "wingnut" --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" Putting something behind the radiator will disrupt the airflow and reduce its effectiveness. Might not be a big deal in the winter but if you forget to take remove it during the summer, you could over heat your motor. A shroud sounds safer (isn't that what GA airplanes with air cooled motors use?) but I'd want a carbon monoxide detector in the cabin in case the mufler springs a leak. How about one of those electric jump suits that mountain climbers wear? Don't have to mod your airplane and it will still keep you warm when you step out of the cabin. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12115#12115 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:28:30 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Preheating From: "wingnut" --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" Anyone use one of these?: http://www.ultralightnews.ca/heaters/enginepreheater.htm Seems like a simple and inexpensive setup that takes advantage of the fact that the motor is liquid cooled. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12116#12116 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:44 AM PST US From: "Larry Martin" Subject: Kitfox-List: Preheat 582 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" I installed a Ski Doo rad hose heater (any rad hose heater will do) to my 582 and use it anytime the temp is below +40ish. I find that it starts and idles with little priming and the water temp is already around 100F on start. I feel justified in flying the airplane by the time I taxi out, which is around 5 min, figuring everything is nice and warm. It only takes a short time (1 hr). When its cold out, I'll plug it into a timer the night before, so it will be nice and warm in the morning, without using too much hydro. Larry ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:03:40 AM PST US From: "Algate" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" Winter flying in Canada requires masking off the front of the Rad to reduce cooling so this actually helps the situation. You wouldn't fly far in summer with heater going as you would be uncomfortable to notice it. GaryA -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of wingnut Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:23 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" Putting something behind the radiator will disrupt the airflow and reduce its effectiveness. Might not be a big deal in the winter but if you forget to take remove it during the summer, you could over heat your motor. A shroud sounds safer (isn't that what GA airplanes with air cooled motors use?) but I'd want a carbon monoxide detector in the cabin in case the mufler springs a leak. How about one of those electric jump suits that mountain climbers wear? Don't have to mod your airplane and it will still keep you warm when you step out of the cabin. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12115#12115 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:58:09 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" List One quick question. Who is Wingnut? Or are we not supposed to know, or are we just supposed to not care? I guess that was three questions, sorry. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "wingnut" Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:23 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" > > Putting something behind the radiator will disrupt the airflow and reduce > its effectiveness. Might not be a big deal in the winter but if you forget > to take remove it during the summer, you could over heat your motor. A > shroud sounds safer (isn't that what GA airplanes with air cooled motors > use?) but I'd want a carbon monoxide detector in the cabin in case the > mufler springs a leak. > > How about one of those electric jump suits that mountain climbers wear? > Don't have to mod your airplane and it will still keep you warm when you > step out of the cabin. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12115#12115 > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:34:54 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat From: "wingnut" --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" I am wingnut. wingnut am I. I'm a guy who recently purchased a kitfox and joined the kitfox list. I fly N824KF out of 34A (Laurens, SC). Other than that, there's nothing worth noting about me. What is it that you want to know? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12156#12156 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:18:51 PM PST US From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Preheating --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" 200 hours. I think I avoid most of that by cranking until the oil pressure is up before I turn on the mags. Then everything is pre-oiled before high RPM's. My old Jeep has nearly 4000 hours on it and it doesn't burn any oil. And it always is started with no oil pressure. And many of those starts are at below - 4 F. Still, I suspect that there is some truth to the 200 hours run of thumb. Randy - 912S . -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Miles Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:34 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Preheating --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Frank Miles" Just got a new battery from: Sport Plane, LLC. $71.50 + shipping. I have heard it said that a starting a cold soaked engine at -20% C. without preheating is equal to 200 hours of time on an engine. Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Matthaey Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Preheating --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" Usually don't get to pre-heat...never had a problem, but I don't usually fly the 'Fox too much when it's below 30 anyway. Funny thing, I was going to take my Crew Partner (Cockpit Resource Mgmt Training in Multi-Engine Ops at school) flying low and slow...and the damn battery turned the prop over once and kicked the bucket. NEVER had a problem with it before...oh well. I hooked up the charger and started 'er up... Any ideas where I can get a good, inexpensive replacement? Thanks! Andrew KF3 582 68" GSC >From: "Rich Williamson" >To: >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Preheating >Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:48:16 -0500 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rich Williamson" > >Pre heat below 40 F....!!!! We'd be preheating 6 months of the year in >Maine.. When the temp gets -10 F , we just stay by the fire and self >preheat... > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:46:28 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Your name. Most people sign their posts with their name. For some reason I like to know who is posting. Call me old fashioned but I like to know all the names of my friends. If your name really is Wingnut, then I apologize for asking I checked the N# registry - no Wingnuts there. Lowell do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "wingnut" Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:32 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" > > I am wingnut. wingnut am I. > > I'm a guy who recently purchased a kitfox and joined the kitfox list. I > fly N824KF out of 34A (Laurens, SC). Other than that, there's nothing > worth noting about me. What is it that you want to know? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12156#12156 > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:55:04 PM PST US From: Alan & Linda Daniels Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Preheating --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels There is a huge difference in air cooled and water cooled engines in how a cold start affects them. The big no no is to cold start an air cooled conventional aircraft engine as at cold temps the dissimilar metals expand and contract at different rates and that reduces clearances to less than acceptable. This is what causes the excessive wear. On most car engines if you can crank it over enough to start and the oil will flow you are all right. Multi weight oils have dramatically reduced cold start oil starvation. It all comes down to what clearances the engine was built with, what materials it was built with, and at what temp those materials no longer have acceptable clearances. I would not start my O-320 or O-360 below 20 F without preheat, and I would preheat below 30F if I could, but I have never preheated my snowmobile - ever- and I have started it at -20F and never had any sighs of problems. I guess you would have to find out from the manufacture what the critical temps are and go with that. > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:18:13 PM PST US From: Jim Burke Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: VOR Antenna --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke Thanks, To all that have resopnded to my needs for a VOR antenna and or plans. And thanks to jeff for the VOR plans I'm sure someone will build a inexpensive antenna. I have acquired the wire type VOR antenna from a Kitfox owner in CO that should work just fine for me. Again thanks for the help, As always I'll be back needing more help,and knowing someone will help dig me out when needed with this new project. Jim,N94JE ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:24:56 PM PST US From: Sid Hausding Subject: Kitfox-List: Cabin Heat --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Sid Hausding The standard factory cabin heat box supplied with the Avid comes with a shroud to mount behind one of the 582 cheek radiators and scat hosing to connect to the heater box mounted on the firewall. As the heater is opened up more, it dumps less and less out to the airflow through the cowling....less heat needed, more radiator heated air is dumped out the box and back into the cowling cooling flow..............simple, effective, and cheap, and no combustion fumes to worry about. Either setting, or something inbetween, allows full flow through the radiator for proper cooling......... Sid ---------------- wingnut wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" Putting something behind the radiator will disrupt the airflow and reduce its effectiveness. Might not be a big deal in the winter but if you forget to take remove it during the summer, you could over heat your motor. A shroud sounds safer (isn't that what GA airplanes with air cooled motors use?) but I'd want a carbon monoxide detector in the cabin in case the mufler springs a leak. How about one of those electric jump suits that mountain climbers wear? Don't have to mod your airplane and it will still keep you warm when you step out of the cabin. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12115#12115 --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:26:47 PM PST US From: Gary Olson Subject: Kitfox-List: Missing part --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson Gentlemen, I am making the final assembly of my tailfeathers for my S7 and I find that I am short a bushing for the horzontal. Does anyone know where I could find another? Is this the kind of bushing that may be used on a production aircraft so that I may find one at my local FBO? Worst case scenario is that I would have to make one from scratch. Thanks. Gary P.S. Hey Lowell, the only Wingnut I know has that handle because he has big ears. He also is known as "Radar" . --------------------------------- Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:34:28 PM PST US From: Business Address Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: cutting prop bolt threads --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Business Address Deke, I agree with you. Refer to Carroll Smith's book "Nuts, Bolts, Fasteners and Plumbing Handbook"published by Motorbooks International. This a a great reference to theory and practice of high strength fasteners It's written for the motor sport audience but applies to equally to aviation applications. Dick Fox5flyer wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" > >Rich, there's a problem with what you're doing. AN bolts have "rolled" >threads which means they aren't cut, but rolled in with a machine. The >reason for this is to eliminate stress cracks in the threads. By using a >cutting die on your bolts you're changing the properties of them and what >you end up with is a bolt that does not have the tensile strenght or >predictability of a prop bolt. It's possible that you will never have a >problem, but as important as prop bolts are, I don't think it's wise to take >that risk. >If I'm off base on this someone please let me know. >Deke > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rich Williamson" >To: >Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 6:46 PM >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Torque ?s > > > > >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rich Williamson" >> >>Thank you, I did find this out and because of the "non prop" bolts.. I >> >> >just used a die nf 1/4-28 and lengthened the tread so it would not bottom >out... They are AN4 bolts so I am thinking the torque specs must in the in >the 120in lbs range... > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:04:56 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat From: "wingnut" --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" > Most people sign their posts with their name. For some reason I like to know who is posting. Call me old fashioned but I like to know all the names of my friends. If your name really is Wingnut, then I apologize for asking OK. You're old fashoned :-). The reason that Ken's name is still in the FAA database is that I've only recently purchased the airplane from him (Great guy BTW: He delivered my airplane accross the country for nothing but a return ticket home). Wingnut is just a login name. Everyone I see here uses an alias for that. If knowing my name makes you feel better then here you go. Luis Rodriguez Didn't meen to ruffle any feathers but I've been a citizen of the internet since before there was a world wide web and no one has ever asked me for my name before or suggested I was a friend because we posted on the same forum. To be honest, I'm kind of surprised and finding it hard to not be defensive... But, for the sake of friendship, I'm going to take your reasons at face value and throw in my address to boot: 244 Boyd Rd. Laurens, SC 29360 Oh, and my birth day is in two days. Can I expect a card ? :-) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12212#12212 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:26:52 PM PST US From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell" I'm a wingnut too Luis, but I prefer Roger ;-)......roger that.... Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of wingnut Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 6:04 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" > Most people sign their posts with their name. For some reason I like to know who is posting. Call me old fashioned but I like to know all the names of my friends. If your name really is Wingnut, then I apologize for asking OK. You're old fashoned :-). The reason that Ken's name is still in the FAA database is that I've only recently purchased the airplane from him (Great guy BTW: He delivered my airplane accross the country for nothing but a return ticket home). Wingnut is just a login name. Everyone I see here uses an alias for that. If knowing my name makes you feel better then here you go. Luis Rodriguez Didn't meen to ruffle any feathers but I've been a citizen of the internet since before there was a world wide web and no one has ever asked me for my name before or suggested I was a friend because we posted on the same forum. To be honest, I'm kind of surprised and finding it hard to not be defensive... But, for the sake of friendship, I'm going to take your reasons at face value and throw in my address to boot: 244 Boyd Rd. Laurens, SC 29360 Oh, and my birth day is in two days. Can I expect a card ? :-) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12212#12212 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:51:21 PM PST US From: "Brett Walmsley" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" Hey Lowell, you better send that card priority mail if you expect Luis to get it on his birthday. :-) Too funny... ----- Original Message ----- From: "wingnut" Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:03 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" > > >> Most people sign their posts with their name. For some reason I like to >> know who is posting. Call me old fashioned but I like to know all the >> names of my friends. If your name really is Wingnut, then I apologize for >> asking > > > OK. You're old fashoned :-). The reason that Ken's name is still in the > FAA database is that I've only recently purchased the airplane from him > (Great guy BTW: He delivered my airplane accross the country for nothing > but a return ticket home). Wingnut is just a login name. Everyone I see > here uses an alias for that. If knowing my name makes you feel better then > here you go. > > Luis Rodriguez > > Didn't meen to ruffle any feathers but I've been a citizen of the internet > since before there was a world wide web and no one has ever asked me for > my name before or suggested I was a friend because we posted on the same > forum. To be honest, I'm kind of surprised and finding it hard to not be > defensive... But, for the sake of friendship, I'm going to take your > reasons at face value and throw in my address to boot: > > 244 Boyd Rd. > Laurens, SC 29360 > > Oh, and my birth day is in two days. Can I expect a card ? :-) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12212#12212 > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:40:51 PM PST US From: "Your Name" Subject: Kitfox-List: Model IV Wing Extensions --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Your Name" I would like to find a source for the wing extensions for my Model IV Speedster. Also I would like to know if anyone has POH information specific to the Speedster with a 912UL. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:43 PM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: Kitfox-List: Ethanol in WA State --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" Heads up.. this was just posted on another site A legislator in WA state is trying to get a 2% ethanol in gasoline requirement passed in the current legislative session. Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:56:01 PM PST US From: Malcolmbru@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ethanol in WA State --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Malcolmbru@aol.com jim please send your ph# I have questions on my 582 install malcolm ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:44 PM PST US From: Herbert R Gottelt Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ethanol in WA State --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Herbert R Gottelt We have 10% ethanol in all our auto fuel and octane ratings in the Chicago area for the last five years! So far no ill effects in my fuel tanks nor my engine! Herbert Gottelt M4-1200,UL. Mt. Prospect, IL jdmcbean wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" Heads up.. this was just posted on another site A legislator in WA state is trying to get a 2% ethanol in gasoline requirement passed in the current legislative session. Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:45 PM PST US From: Herbert R Gottelt Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ethanol in WA State --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Herbert R Gottelt We have 10% ethanol in all our auto fuel and octane ratings in the Chicago area for the last five years! So far no ill effects in my fuel tanks nor my engine! Herbert Gottelt M4-1200,UL. Mt. Prospect, IL jdmcbean wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" Heads up.. this was just posted on another site A legislator in WA state is trying to get a 2% ethanol in gasoline requirement passed in the current legislative session. Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:29:02 PM PST US From: John King Subject: Kitfox-List: Welcome --> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King Nice to know you Luis Rodriguez of 244 Boyd Rd., Laurens, SC 29360 -- John King Warrenton, VA Luis Rodriguez Didn't meen to ruffle any feathers but I've been a citizen of the internet since before there was a world wide web and no one has ever asked me for my name before or suggested I was a friend because we posted on the same forum. To be honest, I'm kind of surprised and finding it hard to not be defensive... But, for the sake of friendship, I'm going to take your reasons at face value and throw in my address to boot: 244 Boyd Rd. Laurens, SC 29360 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 08:29:44 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Thanks Louis, I think you will find that we here in the KF list are a friendly bunch and we often respond with a Hi, (insert name) in the old fashioned way. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "wingnut" Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:03 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" > > >> Most people sign their posts with their name. For some reason I like to >> know who is posting. Call me old fashioned but I like to know all the >> names of my friends. If your name really is Wingnut, then I apologize for >> asking > > > OK. You're old fashoned :-). The reason that Ken's name is still in the > FAA database is that I've only recently purchased the airplane from him > (Great guy BTW: He delivered my airplane accross the country for nothing > but a return ticket home). Wingnut is just a login name. Everyone I see > here uses an alias for that. If knowing my name makes you feel better then > here you go. > > Luis Rodriguez > > Didn't meen to ruffle any feathers but I've been a citizen of the internet > since before there was a world wide web and no one has ever asked me for > my name before or suggested I was a friend because we posted on the same > forum. To be honest, I'm kind of surprised and finding it hard to not be > defensive... But, for the sake of friendship, I'm going to take your > reasons at face value and throw in my address to boot: > > 244 Boyd Rd. > Laurens, SC 29360 > > Oh, and my birth day is in two days. Can I expect a card ? :-) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12212#12212 > > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 10:26:12 PM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: Kitfox-List: Welcome - was Cabin Heat --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" Welcome Luis, The list can be a great resource.... most of us know each other, have flown together or look forward to flying together. You ever decide to head out to the Northwest let us know.. The Fox is really at home up here. PS.. Happy early Birthday !! and the card is in the email.... Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of wingnut Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:04 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heat --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" > Most people sign their posts with their name. For some reason I like to know who is posting. Call me old fashioned but I like to know all the names of my friends. If your name really is Wingnut, then I apologize for asking OK. You're old fashoned :-). The reason that Ken's name is still in the FAA database is that I've only recently purchased the airplane from him (Great guy BTW: He delivered my airplane accross the country for nothing but a return ticket home). Wingnut is just a login name. Everyone I see here uses an alias for that. If knowing my name makes you feel better then here you go. Luis Rodriguez Didn't meen to ruffle any feathers but I've been a citizen of the internet since before there was a world wide web and no one has ever asked me for my name before or suggested I was a friend because we posted on the same forum. To be honest, I'm kind of surprised and finding it hard to not be defensive... But, for the sake of friendship, I'm going to take your reasons at face value and throw in my address to boot: 244 Boyd Rd. Laurens, SC 29360 Oh, and my birth day is in two days. Can I expect a card ? :-) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12212#12212