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1. 08:44 AM - Re: Welcome - was Cabin Heat (wingnut)
2. 08:56 AM - Wing Rig Alignment (Matt Teixeira)
3. 10:30 AM - NSI Isolation Module (Peter Graichen)
4. 11:00 AM - Bottom False Ribs (Zimmermans)
5. 11:11 AM - Re: NSI Isolation Module (Fox5flyer)
6. 11:36 AM - Re: Wing Rig Alignment (Lowell Fitt)
7. 11:37 AM - Re: Bottom False Ribs (Lowell Fitt)
8. 12:51 PM - Re: Wing Rig Alignment (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
9. 01:25 PM - Re: Wing Rig Alignment (Matt Teixeira)
10. 02:04 PM - Re: VOR Antenna (Dcecil3@aol.com)
11. 02:59 PM - Re: NSI Isolation Module (Michael Logan)
12. 11:11 PM - Re: NSI Isolation Module (kurt schrader)
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Subject: | Re: Welcome - was Cabin Heat |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
Alaska!? Brrr. Not without my tupperware :-)
Count me in for the next flight to Bimini though!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12639#12639
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Subject: | Wing Rig Alignment |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Matt Teixeira" <mteixeira@wmlylesco.com>
Gentlemen
This list is great; your collective experience and willingness to help
has saved me a lot of time and headache.
I'm currently on the wings un-building what the previous kit owner did
to the left wing of my IV-1200 serial #1883. I have corrected a poor
rib #8 installation and will move on to #9 next; they obviously settled
during epoxy setup and were 3/8" out of vertical plumb. Fortunately, a
check for washout and square proved correct.
The #2 rib is 3/16" out of vertical plumb. I hate to ask the question,
but is 3/16" so far out as to be a safety issue? I will do whatever is
necessary to build a safe airplane, but these ribs (and operator) take
some abuse during the slow and careful heat gun process.
Thanks again guys.
Matt IV-1200, Fresno, CA.
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Subject: | NSI Isolation Module |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
Hello NSI Subaru drivers:
Now that NSI is no longer in business, have any of you found a source for
the isolation modules that NSI used to manufacture? Or do you know of a
person or firm that can and/or will repair them? You do realize that if one
of these units gives up its ghost you are dead in the water.
Peter Graichen
http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
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Subject: | Bottom False Ribs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Zimmermans" <jezim@pro-ns.net>
Anyone have a set of bottom false ribs they want to sell. jezim@pro-ns.net
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Subject: | Re: NSI Isolation Module |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Are you telling us that you're dead in the water Peter? I doubt that those
units were actually manufactured by NSI. The first person I'd call would be
Mykal Templeman at Stratus. As he worked for NSI for quite some time, if
anybody would know where to get one, he would. Are you sure it's the IM?
What are the symptoms?
Deke
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> Hello NSI Subaru drivers:
>
> Now that NSI is no longer in business, have any of you found a source for
> the isolation modules that NSI used to manufacture? Or do you know of a
> person or firm that can and/or will repair them? You do realize that if
one
> of these units gives up its ghost you are dead in the water.
> Peter Graichen
> http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Wing Rig Alignment |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Matt,
Settling does occur. I remember checking mine every hour or so as the 3-M
structural adhesive set up and had to tweak constantly and still not
perfect.
In answer to your question, though, I suspect the only functional problem
you might see is if the rib in question is one that supports the flaperon
attach brackets. Alignment on those are pretty important. The others?
probably mostly cosmetic as gross misalignment will be visible through the
fabric.
Where are you in Fresno? Are you close to any GA airports or is FAT your
base?
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Teixeira" <mteixeira@wmlylesco.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:55 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Wing Rig Alignment
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Matt Teixeira"
> <mteixeira@wmlylesco.com>
>
>
> Gentlemen
> This list is great; your collective experience and willingness to help
> has saved me a lot of time and headache.
> I'm currently on the wings un-building what the previous kit owner did
> to the left wing of my IV-1200 serial #1883. I have corrected a poor
> rib #8 installation and will move on to #9 next; they obviously settled
> during epoxy setup and were 3/8" out of vertical plumb. Fortunately, a
> check for washout and square proved correct.
> The #2 rib is 3/16" out of vertical plumb. I hate to ask the question,
> but is 3/16" so far out as to be a safety issue? I will do whatever is
> necessary to build a safe airplane, but these ribs (and operator) take
> some abuse during the slow and careful heat gun process.
> Thanks again guys.
> Matt IV-1200, Fresno, CA.
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Bottom False Ribs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
We could probably make up a set of those puppies. I have been working on my
router table lately.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zimmermans" <jezim@pro-ns.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Bottom False Ribs
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Zimmermans" <jezim@pro-ns.net>
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> Anyone have a set of bottom false ribs they want to sell.
> jezim@pro-ns.net
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Wing Rig Alignment |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
I remember running masking tape along the bottoms and tops to keep everything lined
up until the epoxy set up.
John
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt"
>
> Matt,
>
> Settling does occur. I remember checking mine every hour or so as the 3-M
> structural adhesive set up and had to tweak constantly and still not
> perfect.
>
> In answer to your question, though, I suspect the only functional problem
> you might see is if the rib in question is one that supports the flaperon
> attach brackets. Alignment on those are pretty important. The others?
> probably mostly cosmetic as gross misalignment will be visible through the
> fabric.
>
> Where are you in Fresno? Are you close to any GA airports or is FAT your
> base?
>
> Lowell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Teixeira"
> To: "kitfox-list@matronics.com" <'kitfox-list@matronics.com'>
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:55 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Wing Rig Alignment
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> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Matt Teixeira"
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> > Gentlemen
> > This list is great; your collective experience and willingness to help
> > has saved me a lot of time and headache.
> > I'm currently on the wings un-building what the previous kit owner did
> > to the left wing of my IV-1200 serial #1883. I have corrected a poor
> > rib #8 installation and will move on to #9 next; they obviously settled
> > during epoxy setup and were 3/8" out of vertical plumb. Fortunately, a
> > check for washout and square proved correct.
> > The #2 rib is 3/16" out of vertical plumb. I hate to ask the question,
> > but is 3/16" so far out as to be a safety issue? I will do whatever is
> > necessary to build a safe airplane, but these ribs (and operator) take
> > some abuse during the slow and careful heat gun process.
> > Thanks again guys.
> > Matt IV-1200, Fresno, CA.
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I remember running masking tape along the bottoms and tops to keep everything lined
up until the epoxy set up.
John
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Lowell Fitt" lcfitt@sbcglobal.net
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <LCFITT@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Matt,
Settling does occur. I remember checking mine every hour or so as the 3-M
structural adhesive set up and had to tweak constantly and still not
perfect.
In answer to your question, though, I suspect the only functional problem
you might see is if the rib in question is one that supports the flaperon
attach brackets. Alignment on those are pretty important. The others?
probably mostly cosmetic as gross misalignment will be visible through the
fabric.
Where are you in Fresno? Are you close to any GA airports or is FAT your
base?
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Teixeira" <MTEIXEIRA@WMLYLESCO.COM>
To: "kitfox-list@matronics.com" 'kitfox-list@matronics.com'
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:55 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Wing Rig Alignment
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Matt Teixeira"
<MTEIXEIRA@WMLYLESCO.COM>
Gentlemen
This list is great; your collective experience and willingness to help
has saved me a lot of time and headache.
I'm currently on the wings un-building what the previous kit owner did
to the left wing of my IV-1200 serial #1883. I have corrected a poor
rib #8 installation and will move on to #9 next; they obviously settled
during epoxy setup and were 3/8" out of vertical plumb. Fortunately, a
check for washout and square proved correct.
&
gt; The #2 rib is 3/16" out of vertical plumb. I hate to ask the question,
but is 3/16" so far out as to be a safety issue? I will do whatever is
necessary to build a safe airplane, but these ribs (and operator) take
some abuse during the slow and careful heat gun process.
Thanks again guys.
Matt IV-1200, Fresno, CA.
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Subject: | Wing Rig Alignment |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Matt Teixeira" <mteixeira@wmlylesco.com>
Lowell
Thanks for your reply. You have settled my mind on my rib #2.
I'm usually based at work just 1/4 mile from FCH, Fresno's downtown
airport. Close enough to run down and take a pilot and their passenger
to lunch or to run cans to a local mogas station. Just let me know when
you are coming in. Right now, I'm 30 miles north building an Ethanol
Plant in Madera; basically a giant still on steroids. Yes, I can say
with relative certainty, that our mogas will now and forever be blended
with a percentage of ethanol.
Building my Kitfox is a dream come true. I can't wait to join the ranks
of you guys and fly a plane that you assembled yourselves.
I have to admit that I was very concerned when Skystar closed their
doors, but you and the others on this list as well as my local EAA have
kept me building and not selling.
I have a list of questions, but I'll hold back until I get closer to
those areas of the build.
Are you in Southern California or Oregon?
Matt IV-1200, Fresno, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Wing Rig Alignment
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Matt,
Settling does occur. I remember checking mine every hour or so as the
3-M
structural adhesive set up and had to tweak constantly and still not
perfect.
In answer to your question, though, I suspect the only functional
problem
you might see is if the rib in question is one that supports the
flaperon
attach brackets. Alignment on those are pretty important. The others?
probably mostly cosmetic as gross misalignment will be visible through
the
fabric.
Where are you in Fresno? Are you close to any GA airports or is FAT
your
base?
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Teixeira" <mteixeira@wmlylesco.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:55 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Wing Rig Alignment
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Matt Teixeira"
> <mteixeira@wmlylesco.com>
>
>
> Gentlemen
> This list is great; your collective experience and willingness to help
> has saved me a lot of time and headache.
> I'm currently on the wings un-building what the previous kit owner did
> to the left wing of my IV-1200 serial #1883. I have corrected a poor
> rib #8 installation and will move on to #9 next; they obviously
settled
> during epoxy setup and were 3/8" out of vertical plumb. Fortunately,
a
> check for washout and square proved correct.
> The #2 rib is 3/16" out of vertical plumb. I hate to ask the
question,
> but is 3/16" so far out as to be a safety issue? I will do whatever
is
> necessary to build a safe airplane, but these ribs (and operator) take
> some abuse during the slow and careful heat gun process.
> Thanks again guys.
> Matt IV-1200, Fresno, CA.
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
Thanks Guys for the maney ideas I've sold the Kitfox so would you plase take
me off this list
Thanks again David Cecil
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Subject: | NSI Isolation Module |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
The coil joiners or isolation modules are the weak point in the ignition of
the NSI setup. I have never heard of anyone having their ignition go bad
with the exception of some of us with the early models that had the pickups
go bad. Right now I am running without the modules on one ignition since my
modules went tango uniform on me.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Graichen
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:28 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI Isolation Module
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
Hello NSI Subaru drivers:
Now that NSI is no longer in business, have any of you found a source for
the isolation modules that NSI used to manufacture? Or do you know of a
person or firm that can and/or will repair them? You do realize that if one
of these units gives up its ghost you are dead in the water.
Peter Graichen
http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
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Subject: | Re: NSI Isolation Module |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Haven't crossed that bridge yet Peter. I wonder if
the internal diodes have the manufacturer and
pertinent data stamped on them? If you are still
operating, leave it alone, but if not, getting at the
insides might be useful.
They are just big diodes, though handling high voltage
as they do must be a challenge for them. Still, I
haven't heard of any actually being the cause of
failure yet. I lost one P/U coil, but nothing more.
As far as I remember, you don't fix diodes. Only a
wire failure into or out of them is repairable. That
could possible be a problem with burnthru at a contact
point.
Kurt S.
--- Peter Graichen <n10pg@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> Hello NSI Subaru drivers:
>
> Now that NSI is no longer in business, have any of
> you found a source for
> the isolation modules that NSI used to manufacture?
> Or do you know of a
> person or firm that can and/or will repair them? You
> do realize that if one
> of these units gives up its ghost you are dead in
> the water.
> Peter Graichen
> http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
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