Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Fri 02/17/06


Total Messages Posted: 24



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     1. 02:26 AM - Airdale wide gear (Mark.Summers@lwbref.com)
     2. 06:01 AM - Re: NSI Isolation Module (Michael Logan)
     3. 07:01 AM - Odyssey Batterys (wingnut)
     4. 07:01 AM - Re: NSI Isolation Module (Fox5flyer)
     5. 07:38 AM - Re: Odyssey Batterys (Vic Baker)
     6. 07:50 AM - Re: Odyssey Batterys (jdmcbean)
     7. 08:08 AM - Re: Odyssey Batterys (wingnut)
     8. 09:46 AM - SV: Re: Welcome (Michel Verheughe)
     9. 10:17 AM - SV: Re: Welcome (wingnut)
    10. 12:38 PM - Re: SV: First Flight Report (Mdkitfox@aol.com)
    11. 12:51 PM - Re: First Flight Report (Mdkitfox@aol.com)
    12. 02:48 PM - Re: NSI Isolation Module (Michael Logan)
    13. 02:48 PM - Re: SV: First Flight Report (Michael Logan)
    14. 03:08 PM - engine out (Chenoweth)
    15. 03:20 PM - Re: First Flight Report (Donna and Roger McConnell)
    16. 03:31 PM - Re: engine out (Bruce Harrington)
    17. 03:33 PM - Vortex generators (Clem Nichols)
    18. 04:42 PM - Re: Vortex generators (jdmcbean)
    19. 05:37 PM - Re: Model IV Wing Extensions (Business Address)
    20. 07:28 PM - Re: SV: Re: Welcome (Fred Shiple)
    21. 07:28 PM - Re: First Flight Report (Fred Shiple)
    22. 07:29 PM - Re: Model IV Wing Extensions (Your Name)
    23. 07:29 PM - Re: Model IV Wing Extensions (Your Name)
    24. 10:19 PM - Re: NSI Isolation Module (kurt schrader)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:26:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Airdale wide gear
    From: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com Has anyone had any experience with the wide tube gear made by airdale I think it is 14" wider than standard and is supposed to fit on kitfoxes also. I am considering them I would suspect that it should make ground handling better, any thoughts or expertise. Thanks Mark


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    Time: 06:01:05 AM PST US
    From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
    Subject: NSI Isolation Module
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net> You can no longer get the original diodes that NSI put in the modules. You can replace them with mouser electronics part number NTE 517 diode. It is a higher voltage diode so you only need five rather than the six needed with the original set-up. They are almost $6 each and you will need at least 40 of them if you are going to rebuild both modules. Even rebuilt with new diodes, the module is still the weakest single point failure point in the ignition system. Mike Logan -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt schrader Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:06 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Isolation Module --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Haven't crossed that bridge yet Peter. I wonder if the internal diodes have the manufacturer and pertinent data stamped on them? If you are still operating, leave it alone, but if not, getting at the insides might be useful. They are just big diodes, though handling high voltage as they do must be a challenge for them. Still, I haven't heard of any actually being the cause of failure yet. I lost one P/U coil, but nothing more. As far as I remember, you don't fix diodes. Only a wire failure into or out of them is repairable. That could possible be a problem with burnthru at a contact point. Kurt S. --- Peter Graichen <n10pg@neo.rr.com> wrote: > Hello NSI Subaru drivers: > > Now that NSI is no longer in business, have any of > you found a source for > the isolation modules that NSI used to manufacture? > Or do you know of a > person or firm that can and/or will repair them? You > do realize that if one > of these units gives up its ghost you are dead in > the water. > Peter Graichen > http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm


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    Time: 07:01:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Odyssey Batterys
    From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> I picked up one of these to replace the motorcycle battery I'm using now. This thing should have plenty of power to start my kitfox on cold days. Only problem is that it's just a tad wider than the current battery box. I noticed that the battery has some plastic ribs on the sides that I assume are to provide some space for cooling. I was thinking about filing them down a touch to get it to fit the box. About 1/3 of the width of the ribs should be plenty so there should still be some space for cooling. Any thoughts? -Luis -N824KF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12856#12856


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    Time: 07:01:04 AM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Re: NSI Isolation Module
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> I'm a little confused here Mike. Both modules? My NSI has only one isolation module (coil joiner). Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:58 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Isolation Module > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net> > > You can no longer get the original diodes that NSI put in the modules. You > can replace them with mouser electronics part number NTE 517 diode. It is a > higher voltage diode so you only need five rather than the six needed with > the original set-up. They are almost $6 each and you will need at least 40 > of them if you are going to rebuild both modules. > > Even rebuilt with new diodes, the module is still the weakest single point > failure point in the ignition system. > > Mike Logan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt schrader > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:06 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Isolation Module > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > Haven't crossed that bridge yet Peter. I wonder if > the internal diodes have the manufacturer and > pertinent data stamped on them? If you are still > operating, leave it alone, but if not, getting at the > insides might be useful. > > They are just big diodes, though handling high voltage > as they do must be a challenge for them. Still, I > haven't heard of any actually being the cause of > failure yet. I lost one P/U coil, but nothing more. > > As far as I remember, you don't fix diodes. Only a > wire failure into or out of them is repairable. That > could possible be a problem with burnthru at a contact > point. > > Kurt S. > > --- Peter Graichen <n10pg@neo.rr.com> wrote: > > > Hello NSI Subaru drivers: > > > > Now that NSI is no longer in business, have any of > > you found a source for > > the isolation modules that NSI used to manufacture? > > Or do you know of a > > person or firm that can and/or will repair them? You > > do realize that if one > > of these units gives up its ghost you are dead in > > the water. > > Peter Graichen > > http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm > >


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    Time: 07:38:31 AM PST US
    From: "Vic Baker" <vr_baker@nvbell.net>
    Subject: Re: Odyssey Batterys
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Baker" <vr_baker@nvbell.net> Hi Luis, The ribs are for structural support. Trim with caution. Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 6:58 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Odyssey Batterys > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> > > I picked up one of these to replace the motorcycle battery I'm using now. This thing should have plenty of power to start my kitfox on cold days. Only problem is that it's just a tad wider than the current battery box. I noticed that the battery has some plastic ribs on the sides that I assume are to provide some space for cooling. I was thinking about filing them down a touch to get it to fit the box. About 1/3 of the width of the ribs should be plenty so there should still be some space for cooling. Any thoughts? > > -Luis > -N824KF > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12856#12856 > >


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    Time: 07:50:42 AM PST US
    From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
    Subject: Odyssey Batterys
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net> When looking for batteries.. consider the sealed battery that we offer.. http://sportplanellc.com/Electrical.htm it fits in the existing battery box without any trimming.. Fly Safe !! John McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of wingnut Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:58 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Odyssey Batterys --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> I picked up one of these to replace the motorcycle battery I'm using now. This thing should have plenty of power to start my kitfox on cold days. Only problem is that it's just a tad wider than the current battery box. I noticed that the battery has some plastic ribs on the sides that I assume are to provide some space for cooling. I was thinking about filing them down a touch to get it to fit the box. About 1/3 of the width of the ribs should be plenty so there should still be some space for cooling. Any thoughts? -Luis -N824KF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12856#12856


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    Time: 08:08:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Odyssey Batterys
    From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> I actually feel better about trimming if they're for structural support. As I understand it, these things are designed for very high vibration/shock environments like ATVs and snow mobiles. The battery it's replacing feels much flimsier. I would think that the relatively snug fit in the plastic battery box will also add some support. Still not ideal though. Got any specs on that Deka battery? I didn't build the airplane. How do I tell if I have a stock battery box? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12877#12877


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    Time: 09:46:08 AM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: Welcome
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> > From: kurt schrader [smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com] > Yes, welcome to the list Wingnu.... ah Luis. :-) Bienvenido a bordo, Luis! As Kurt sayts, we are just a big international family. I am Belgian, fly my Kifox 3 in Norway, where I live and I am now at my brother's house in Spain! :-) Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 10:17:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: SV: Re: Welcome
    From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> Gracias! Must be some nice flyging out your way. Are you on the kitfox owners map on frappr? Here's a link to me. -Luis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12909#12909


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    Time: 12:38:11 PM PST US
    From: Mdkitfox@aol.com
    Subject: Re: First Flight Report
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mdkitfox@aol.com In a message dated 1/23/2006 4:03:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, michel@online.no writes: Michel, I'm about 2 months behind in reading my email, but I'm slowly getting through them. I can't help but mention how much I enjoy your comments and the picture links you provide to all of us. Thanks for the motivation to keep slugging along. My only comment is the view out your plane of the snow and frozen earth gives me the chills. If you ever want to fly in the warm sun and over a warm sea come visit us in Daytona Beach, FL. Rick Weiss Series V N39RW and still building


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    Time: 12:51:08 PM PST US
    From: Mdkitfox@aol.com
    Subject: Re: First Flight Report
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mdkitfox@aol.com Roger, Sorry for the late reply, but congratulations on your first flight. I'm sure the smile is still firmly in place! Way to go. Blue skies and fair winds, Rick Weiss Series V N39RW (still working on it)


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    Time: 02:48:55 PM PST US
    From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
    Subject: NSI Isolation Module
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net> Mine has two, four wires in and two out on each. How is yours set up? Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fox5flyer Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:01 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Isolation Module --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> I'm a little confused here Mike. Both modules? My NSI has only one isolation module (coil joiner). Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:58 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Isolation Module > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net> > > You can no longer get the original diodes that NSI put in the modules. You > can replace them with mouser electronics part number NTE 517 diode. It is a > higher voltage diode so you only need five rather than the six needed with > the original set-up. They are almost $6 each and you will need at least 40 > of them if you are going to rebuild both modules. > > Even rebuilt with new diodes, the module is still the weakest single point > failure point in the ignition system. > > Mike Logan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt schrader > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:06 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Isolation Module > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > Haven't crossed that bridge yet Peter. I wonder if > the internal diodes have the manufacturer and > pertinent data stamped on them? If you are still > operating, leave it alone, but if not, getting at the > insides might be useful. > > They are just big diodes, though handling high voltage > as they do must be a challenge for them. Still, I > haven't heard of any actually being the cause of > failure yet. I lost one P/U coil, but nothing more. > > As far as I remember, you don't fix diodes. Only a > wire failure into or out of them is repairable. That > could possible be a problem with burnthru at a contact > point. > > Kurt S. > > --- Peter Graichen <n10pg@neo.rr.com> wrote: > > > Hello NSI Subaru drivers: > > > > Now that NSI is no longer in business, have any of > > you found a source for > > the isolation modules that NSI used to manufacture? > > Or do you know of a > > person or firm that can and/or will repair them? You > > do realize that if one > > of these units gives up its ghost you are dead in > > the water. > > Peter Graichen > > http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm > >


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    Time: 02:48:55 PM PST US
    From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
    Subject: First Flight Report
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net> Rick, Have you moved to the sunny south? Mike Logan in cold Virginia. Or at least it will be tomorrow. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mdkitfox@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:35 PM Subject: Re: SV: Kitfox-List: First Flight Report --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mdkitfox@aol.com In a message dated 1/23/2006 4:03:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, michel@online.no writes: Michel, I'm about 2 months behind in reading my email, but I'm slowly getting through them. I can't help but mention how much I enjoy your comments and the picture links you provide to all of us. Thanks for the motivation to keep slugging along. My only comment is the view out your plane of the snow and frozen earth gives me the chills. If you ever want to fly in the warm sun and over a warm sea come visit us in Daytona Beach, FL. Rick Weiss Series V N39RW and still building


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    Time: 03:08:58 PM PST US
    From: "Chenoweth" <chenoweth@gwi.net>
    Subject: engine out
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Chenoweth" <chenoweth@gwi.net> Here's a description of some engine-out practice, the first ever, I had yesterday. I found it quite enlightening. Others may find interesting - perhaps useful. The background goes something like this. I'm a relatively low-time pilot (350 hrs) with about 200 in my Kitfox (IV-1200 582 w/IVO medium) and the rest in 172s. Recently I've been chasing a vibration that was almost certainly prop, gearbox, or engine. But, in the interest of thoroughness I decided to fly to 3000', shut down, and do some gliding to see if, perhaps, the airframe was producing the problem (it wasn't). I invited my tech counselor along because he's the coolest person I know under even the most trying circumstances and I can be excitable. As an aside, since this is a two-stroke engine I've been very concerned with the possibility of an engine-induced forced landing so all (I mean All) of my downwind, base, and finals have been with engine at idle (I have the idle set at about 2050 - 2100 on the ground). I've figured I might as well be ready in case I really have an engine out. Wasted effort - see below. To get to the end of the story, we did four separate climbs to about 3000, shut-downs, and descents to a landing. My plan now is to enlist this willing victim in data collection as I go to 3500 and do engine-out glides at speeds from 45 mph to 65 mph to re-calculate the best glide speeds. Here's the story. Yesterday was a perfectly calm day. We climbed to 3000. Overcoming my increasing reluctance to actually do it, I shut the engine off. But, surprise number 1, there was not an abrupt stop. It ran for a good 15 - 20 seconds as I slowly pulled the nose up into a stall - then the prop quit turning (except for a spastic sort of turn as it went jerkily past compression). The next surprise was that it wasn't all that quiet - wind noise. Next was the stall speed - about 42 mph. All my previous stalls had been at about 34 mph. They were all with the engine idling. Finally the descent rate at best glide speed (55 mph but determined with the engine idling) was pretty fast and we didn't seem to be covering a lot of ground. There was essentially no wind at 1000 to 2000 AGL. The descent rate was 500+ fpm. Of my four descents to landing only two were on the runway initially chosen. One was on a closer runway due to being too low to make the original destination. One was aborted about 500' AGL due to being too low. There is a story there, too. When I decided I needed to restart, the engine didn't cooperate. It took several tries and a hundred or so feet of altitude to get it going. I had the throttle at idle and with one hand flying and the other cranking there was no way to give it more gas. After that experience I locked the throttle at about 1/3 and the engine started fine. To summarize - this experience was so unlike what I'd expected (and presumably practiced for) that it was startling. I'm very interested in comments from any of you. Including criticisms of technique or action. Bill Albion, Maine


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    Time: 03:20:12 PM PST US
    From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
    Subject: First Flight Report
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net> Rick, Thanks, yes indeed still smiling. I don't think it will quit for a long while. Roger Mac DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mdkitfox@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:49 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First Flight Report --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mdkitfox@aol.com Roger, Sorry for the late reply, but congratulations on your first flight. I'm sure the smile is still firmly in place! Way to go. Blue skies and fair winds, Rick Weiss Series V N39RW (still working on it)


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    Time: 03:31:43 PM PST US
    From: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: engine out
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com> The 582 idle speed is too high! On my old IV-1200 582ed (800 hrs), it would float a long ways when trying to land when the idle was at 2000 rpm static. I then set it to about 1600-1700 rpm static. Once on the ground with tail down, I added throttle to taxi with 2000 rpm or more. Just add a bit more throttle for start engine. Cheers, bh ex-N194KF 582ed IV-1200, 800+ hrs > Here's a description of some engine-out practice, the first ever, I had > yesterday. I found it quite enlightening. Others may find interesting - > perhaps useful. > > The background goes something like this. I'm a relatively low-time pilot > (350 hrs) with about 200 in my Kitfox (IV-1200 582 w/IVO medium) and the > rest in 172s. Recently I've been chasing a vibration that was almost > certainly prop, gearbox, or engine. But, in the interest of thoroughness > I decided to fly to 3000', shut down, and do some gliding to see if, > perhaps, the airframe was producing the problem (it wasn't). I invited my > tech counselor along because he's the coolest person I know under even the > most trying circumstances and I can be excitable. > > As an aside, since this is a two-stroke engine I've been very concerned > with the possibility of an engine-induced forced landing so all (I mean > All) of my downwind, base, and finals have been with engine at idle (I > have the idle set at about 2050 - 2100 on the ground). I've figured I > might as well be ready in case I really have an engine out. Wasted > effort - see below. > > To get to the end of the story, we did four separate climbs to about 3000, > shut-downs, and descents to a landing. My plan now is to enlist this > willing victim in data collection as I go to 3500 and do engine-out glides > at speeds from 45 mph to 65 mph to re-calculate the best glide speeds. > > Here's the story. > Yesterday was a perfectly calm day. We climbed to 3000. Overcoming my > increasing reluctance to actually do it, I shut the engine off. But, > surprise number 1, there was not an abrupt stop. It ran for a good 15 - > 20 seconds as I slowly pulled the nose up into a stall - then the prop > quit turning (except for a spastic sort of turn as it went jerkily past > compression). > The next surprise was that it wasn't all that quiet - wind noise. > Next was the stall speed - about 42 mph. All my previous stalls had been > at about 34 mph. They were all with the engine idling. > Finally the descent rate at best glide speed (55 mph but determined with > the engine idling) was pretty fast and we didn't seem to be covering a lot > of ground. There was essentially no wind at 1000 to 2000 AGL. The > descent rate was 500+ fpm. > > Of my four descents to landing only two were on the runway initially > chosen. One was on a closer runway due to being too low to make the > original destination. One was aborted about 500' AGL due to being too > low. There is a story there, too. When I decided I needed to restart, > the engine didn't cooperate. It took several tries and a hundred or so > feet of altitude to get it going. I had the throttle at idle and with one > hand flying and the other cranking there was no way to give it more gas. > After that experience I locked the throttle at about 1/3 and the engine > started fine. > > To summarize - this experience was so unlike what I'd expected (and > presumably practiced for) that it was startling. > > I'm very interested in comments from any of you. Including criticisms of > technique or action. > > Bill > Albion, Maine


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    Time: 03:33:12 PM PST US
    From: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
    Subject: Vortex generators
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com> I received a postcard today from Harison Designs, LLC in Kootenai, Idaho aimed at Kitfox owners and advertising Affordable Vortex generators for $95 per wing. Needless to say, the claims made sound impressive. Does anyone in the group have any experience with these, and if so, what is your impression? Thanks Clem Nichols


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    Time: 04:42:55 PM PST US
    From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
    Subject: Vortex generators
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net> This is just an opinion... While the VG's, plastic or aluminum, are going to work essentially the same. I feel the aluminum is a better way to go. If you paint the plastic ones they will most likely last a awhile.. but I know the aluminum ones are going to. Also, while the kit we offer http://sportplanellc.com/Wing.htm is more expensive it also has the instructions, adhesive, tape, video and templates. Fly Safe !! John McBean www.sportplanellc.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clem Nichols Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:32 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Vortex generators --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com> I received a postcard today from Harison Designs, LLC in Kootenai, Idaho aimed at Kitfox owners and advertising Affordable Vortex generators for $95 per wing. Needless to say, the claims made sound impressive. Does anyone in the group have any experience with these, and if so, what is your impression? Thanks Clem Nichols


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    Time: 05:37:17 PM PST US
    From: Business Address <rdarchangel@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Model IV Wing Extensions
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Business Address <rdarchangel@earthlink.net> I have POH information specific to the Speedster with a 912UL.. contact me and I will send you copies of the data you need. Dick Your Name wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Your Name" <dwayne@flywv.com> > > >I would like to find a source for the wing extensions for my Model IV >Speedster. Also I would like to know if anyone has POH information >specific to the Speedster with a 912UL. > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:28:24 PM PST US
    From: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: SV: Re: Welcome
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net> Welcome, Luis! I've got a Series 6 in Toledo Ohio. We're just in the process of getting it on floats. Fred do not archive


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    Time: 07:28:24 PM PST US
    From: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: First Flight Report
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net> Roger, Just catching up on the mail. Congratulations on the first flight! Fred


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    Time: 07:29:21 PM PST US
    From: "Your Name" <dwayne@flywv.com>
    Subject: Re: Model IV Wing Extensions
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Your Name" <dwayne@flywv.com> Dick, Thanks for the reply! Is the POH info that you have in a format so that you can email it? If not let me know what to send you for mailing it to me. Thanks, Dwayne > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Business Address <rdarchangel@earthlink.net> > > I have POH information specific to the Speedster with a 912UL.. contact > me and I will send you copies of the data you need. > Dick > Your Name wrote: > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Your Name" <dwayne@flywv.com> > > > > > >I would like to find a source for the wing extensions for my Model IV > >Speedster. Also I would like to know if anyone has POH information > >specific to the Speedster with a 912UL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --


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    Time: 07:29:21 PM PST US
    From: "Your Name" <dwayne@flywv.com>
    Subject: Re: Model IV Wing Extensions
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Your Name" <dwayne@flywv.com> Dick, Thanks for the reply! Is the POH info that you have in a format so that you can email it? If not let me know what to send you for mailing it to me. Thanks, Dwayne > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Business Address <rdarchangel@earthlink.net> > > I have POH information specific to the Speedster with a 912UL.. contact > me and I will send you copies of the data you need. > Dick > Your Name wrote: > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Your Name" <dwayne@flywv.com> > > > > > >I would like to find a source for the wing extensions for my Model IV > >Speedster. Also I would like to know if anyone has POH information > >specific to the Speedster with a 912UL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --


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    Time: 10:19:01 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: NSI Isolation Module
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Hi Michael, I haven't dealt with such high tension diodes before, but it seems to me likely that only one broke down in the bunch. Do you know of a way to adequately test these and replace only the bad one? Obviously they will have to be seperated first for testing. The problem I think is that it may test well at low voltage or with a meter and only fail under higher voltages. This could be a more economical repair. But then I wonder if unmatched diodes will cause a weaker one to break down more quickly? I've not gone beyond 120 volt diodes in my experience. Kurt S. --- Michael Logan <michael.logan@cox.net> wrote: > You can no longer get the original diodes that NSI > put in the modules. You > can replace them with mouser electronics part number > NTE 517 diode. It is a > higher voltage diode so you only need five rather > than the six needed with > the original set-up. They are almost $6 each and > you will need at least 40 > of them if you are going to rebuild both modules. > > Even rebuilt with new diodes, the module is still > the weakest single point > failure point in the ignition system. > > Mike Logan




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