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1. 12:10 AM - Re: Model 5 fuel shutoff valve (kurt schrader)
2. 12:45 AM - SV: Re: PDA Gps (Michel Verheughe)
3. 12:59 AM - SV: Re: PDA Gps (Michel Verheughe)
4. 03:26 AM - Re: Lynn's Kitfox Cowling (Jose M. Toro)
5. 03:47 AM - Re: Lynn's Kitfox Cowling (Lynn Matteson)
6. 04:27 AM - Re: Re: PDA Gps (John Larsen)
7. 05:00 AM - Garmin 396 question (was PDA/GPS) (Dan Billingsley)
8. 05:34 AM - Re: Lynn's Kitfox Cowling (Jose M. Toro)
9. 06:23 AM - SV: Re: PDA Gps (wingnut)
10. 06:46 AM - Re: Garmin 396 question (was PDA/GPS) (wingnut)
11. 06:55 AM - SV: SV: Re: PDA Gps (Michel Verheughe)
12. 07:11 AM - SV: SV: Re: PDA Gps (wingnut)
13. 08:01 AM - Re: heating epoxy for removal-flaming (RAY Gignac)
14. 09:03 AM - Re: SV: SV: Re: PDA Gps (Steve Zakreski)
15. 09:13 AM - Re: Covering wingtips- fabric reinforcement plates (Matt Teixeira)
16. 09:21 AM - Lambasting (was: PDA Gps) (Michael Gibbs)
17. 09:24 AM - SV: SV: Re: PDA Gps (wingnut)
18. 09:33 AM - Re: Winter blues - Was engine out (Kerry Skyring)
19. 12:03 PM - Re: Lynn's Kitfox Cowling (Lynn Matteson)
20. 12:11 PM - [Off-topic] List vs. forum. WAS: PDA Gps (Michel Verheughe)
21. 12:14 PM - Re: Re: PDA Gps (Michel Verheughe)
22. 12:17 PM - Re: Covering wingtips- fabric reinforcement plates (Lynn Matteson)
23. 12:43 PM - Re: engine out- Sonex? (Randy Daughenbaugh)
24. 01:03 PM - Re: Lynn's Kitfox Cowling (Jose M. Toro)
25. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: Lynn's Kitfox Cowling (Jimmie Blackwell)
26. 03:28 PM - Re: [Off-topic] List vs. forum. WAS: PDA Gps (Lynn Matteson)
27. 03:29 PM - Re: Re: Lynn's Kitfox Cowling (Lynn Matteson)
28. 04:10 PM - Turtle Deck (Eric)
29. 04:24 PM - Re: SV: Re: PDA Gps (kurt schrader)
30. 05:53 PM - Re: Turtle Deck (wingsdown)
31. 10:31 PM - Re: engine out- Sonex? (Bruce Harrington)
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| Subject: | Model 5 fuel shutoff valve |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I agree with Rick. My S-5 fuel valve has been so much
trouble. It takes 2 hands to move it, even awhile
after cleaning it up and lubricating it.
If you dont want Ricks Adiar, Ill take it. I am
about ready to rip mine out.
Kurt S.
--- wingsdown <wingsdown@comcast.net> wrote:
> You don't really want that valve. It was one of the
> first things I
> replaced. It is more at home on a fuel oil tank
> going to a tree heater.
> Contact me off list as I have a very nice Adiar for
> sale.
>
> Rick
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Bradley M Webb [bmwebb@cox.net]
> Didn't mean to be rude, but read your post again. To the uninitiated, it
> sounds as though you knew the conditions were marginal, and because of your
> having such a useful instrument, you chose to make the flight
Now I am confused, Brad, because you answer not Gary's post but mine.
In any case, everybody AGREE with you and I am sure Gary reacted not to WHAT you
said but HOW you said it - as Lowell pointed out.
Cheers,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: wingnut [wingnut@spamarrest.com]
> I'm using an X3 with the same processor as that X5 running Pocket FMS. It is
just
> fast enough. With all the nifty options turned on, I can't zoom out to show more
than
> 20 miles without panning getting too slow.
Ah, please let me explain something, Luis and all wannabe PDA navigators. I met
the creators of PocketFMS in The Netherlands and computer graphic is my profession.
Worldwide maps, on navigation instruments, or flight simulator - for the matter,
are all created from vector database we owe the American tax-payers and the
USGS with their NIMA, DEM and DAFIF databases.
The problem is that the processors used today in PDAs cannot handle such a large
amount of vector graphic. On your PC, it is handled by your graphic card, which
a PDA doesn't have. Therefore maps for PDA applications have to be transformed
to bitmap format. The drawback is that bitmap files are large. Hence the
slow update of the maps and - in the case of PocketFMS - the inability to zoom
close in.
Luis, for PocketFMS, I know that the team is currently working at a new display
model that should increase the refreshing time of the moving map. Next version
is planned for April.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Lynn's Kitfox Cowling |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
Lynn:
Is it that the Skyfox cowling? Otherwise, where did
you get it?
Jose
--- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
> <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> Nope, Jose, it's a Model IV, with clipped wings, and
> I now have the
> wingtips on. I took that picture while practicing
> taxiing not long ago.
> I guess maybe I should all those facts to my
> signature, now that the
> plane is done and waiting for final inspection.
>
> Lynn
> Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 04:19 PM, Jose M.
> Toro wrote:
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro"
> > <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Hey Lynn:
> >
> > I just saw your Kitfox picture, and realized that
> it
> > is Jabiru powered. Is it that a Model III?
> >
> > Regards!
> >
> > Jose M. Toro, P.E.
> > Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200
> > "A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
> >
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> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
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> Admin.
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Jose M. Toro, P.E.
Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200
"A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
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| Subject: | Re: Lynn's Kitfox Cowling |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Yes, Jose that's a Skyfox, and took quite a bit to make it fit as you
probably know. Mostly in the flare-to-windshield area. I followed Dave
Jalanti's lead in that area. The Skyfox people could do a better job of
making the upper-to-lower or "jog" area a little better quality, but
for the most part it's nice and smooth overall.
Lynn
Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
On Wednesday, February 22, 2006, at 06:22 AM, Jose M. Toro wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro"
> <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
>
> Lynn:
>
> Is it that the Skyfox cowling? Otherwise, where did
> you get it?
>
> Jose
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com>
Yeh Michel,I was gettng low on gas and was decending through a mountain
pass appoaching Butte MT and had a hole in the clouds to let me
through. I miss judged the hole and went into IMC, the last place I
wanted to be. I froze at the controls and kept a steady decent and after
what seemed like eternity I popped out into sunshine. I now own a 196
and occasionaly use the HSI to keep in practice. On long cross country
flights, you may have to risk IMC at or near your destination.
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>On Feb 21, 2006, at 8:49 PM, Algate wrote:
>
>
>
>>Sometimes I think people either don't read these postings or are just
>>downright rude.
>>
>>
>
>I don't think anybody meant to be rude, Gary. I have also, in the past,
>experienced the same as you do now and you are right on one point: we
>don't use the time to read carefully and many jump on the occasion to
>say: Be careful! And that's a good thing even if, at time, it sounds
>patronising and unpleasant.
>
>But I read your experience very carefully and I found it very
>interesting because I can relate to it. Fog can be tricky, and your
>story will help me to be careful if I even encounter the same weather
>conditions.
>
>As for the use of the GPS as ultimate help when no gyro instrument is
>available, here is my story:
>As I left Germany for The Netherlands, I had to wait for a front with
>rain, to pass. Being a novice, I listened to the German pilots advice
>and when they said: Now it clears up westward, I went.
>But soon after the Dutch border, the ceiling started to go down and
>down and near Groningen, I was down to 500 ft, drizzle on my
>windshield, the only visual reference I had was a little cone under me,
>from the side window. I called ATC, explained my situation and they
>told me to keep on course because the weather was already clearing at
>my destination, about 30 minutes away.
>
>However, I prepared myself for the moment I would be totally without
>visual reference. I then sat my PDA with moving map in "Head Up"
>display (as a sailor, I always use "North Up") and looked at the red
>line of my flight plan, thinking: If panic comes, the main task is:
>keep the red line up at all price! If I was to meet the ground or an
>obstacle, it was better to do it on level wings than in a spin.
>
>Luckily, the weather didn't get worse and soon I could climb again to
>1,000 and 1,500 ft. But this experience is what made me decide to buy
>the TruTrak turn coordinator. Not that I will EVER consider flying IFR.
>But when the weather surprises you, an extra instrument can make the
>difference between panic and control. I know, instruments can also
>create a false sense of control and make you take decisions that you
>wouldn't if you didn't had it.
>
>In any case, reading the experiences from my friends on this list is,
>I believe, the best way for me to practice aviation the safest way.
>
>Cheers,
>Michel
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| Subject: | Garmin 396 question (was PDA/GPS) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dan Billingsley <dan@azshowersolutions.com>
I think many of us agree that the 396 would be a nice addition to our panel...the
weather capability being a huge asset. I know to get the weather requires an
account or signing up for the service. Does anyone know what a minimum time-frame
is for a subscription? I could see using the weather periodically on longer
trips and adding the service say one month at a time when I know I will use
it...but I don't think it would be cost effective if a year subscription at
a time is required. Has anyone checked into this?
Thanks,
Dan, Mesa
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| Subject: | Re: Lynn's Kitfox Cowling |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
Lynn:
I haven't attained a "smooth" coupling of the upper
and lower parts yet. This makes it difficult to
remove the upper part. I will need to redo the fit.
For model II, I don't need to make adjustments for the
windshield. My concern is that the skyfox cowling is
kind of short on the sides, and do not have an
adequate fit with the frames near the doors. Did you
extend yours on the sides? How did you handle the
muffler exits?
Jose
--- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
> <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> Yes, Jose that's a Skyfox, and took quite a bit to
> make it fit as you
> probably know. Mostly in the flare-to-windshield
> area. I followed Dave
> Jalanti's lead in that area. The Skyfox people could
> do a better job of
> making the upper-to-lower or "jog" area a little
> better quality, but
> for the most part it's nice and smooth overall.
>
> Lynn
> Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2006, at 06:22 AM, Jose
> M. Toro wrote:
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro"
> > <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Lynn:
> >
> > Is it that the Skyfox cowling? Otherwise, where
> did
> > you get it?
> >
> > Jose
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
>
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>
Jose M. Toro, P.E.
Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200
"A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
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| Subject: | Re: SV: Re: PDA Gps |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
Actually, the problem I have is the inability to zoom way out. The closer I zoom
in the better things work. PocketFMS uses different size bitmaps for different
zoom levels so panning the map should be the same no matter what level you're
at. The problem I think is that the terrain is the only thing that's a bitmap.
Things like airspace boundaries, text, airports, etc, are still drawn with
vector graphics. If I turn all that stuff off, I can zoom to any level. It's
just not very usefull.
It's good to hear that they're working on improving performance. Although, it's
worth noting that some of the newer PDAs on the market now come with some kind
of graphic acceleration hardware. Some of them even have hardware support for
advanced graphics libraries like DirectX.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14071#14071
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 396 question (was PDA/GPS) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
Did you know that some PDA gps solutions support WX weather? Anwyeremap and PocketFMS
both do. Not to suggest that the PDA solution is equal to a 396 but if
WX weather support is the only thing you're concerned about then I thought it
would be worth mentioning.
As for pricing.. There's a $75 activation fee :-(. I'd bet they do that just to
discourage people from doing exactly what you're suggesting. Also, don't forget
that you also have to buy the XM weather receiver. That's an extra $600 no
matter which way you go.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14074#14074
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| Subject: | Re: SV: Re: PDA Gps |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: wingnut [wingnut@spamarrest.com]
> PocketFMS uses different size bitmaps for different zoom levels so panning the
map
> should be the same no matter what level you're at.
That is correct, Luis. At zoom level one, it may be quite a bunch of vector data
to display, especially in the US where you have so many airfields. Norway, on
the other hand, is ... mucho nada! :-)
> Although, it's worth noting that some of the newer PDAs on the market now come
with some kind of graphic acceleration hardware.
That's good news! ... on second thoughts, it means that my Garmin M5 will soon
be outdated ... ah, well, we can't stop progress, can we? :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: SV: SV: Re: PDA Gps |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
I'm curious about something Michel. Why do your replies spawn new forum threads
instead of posting in the original thread? Are you not using the new forum interface?
-Luis
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| Subject: | Re: heating epoxy for removal-flaming |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com>
That sounds like a good idea also, thanks
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: AMuller589@aol.com<mailto:AMuller589@aol.com>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: heating epoxy for removal-flaming
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com<mailto:AMuller589@aol.com>
grinding on the bolt will jump the heat up to two hundred pretty quick and
with no flame or heating of the fabric.
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| Subject: | Re: SV: SV: Re: PDA Gps |
Cc: "Steve Zakreski (szakreski@shaw.ca)" <sszakreski@trane.com>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
New forum interface?
SteveZ
Calgary
IV/NSI-EA81/CAP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of wingnut
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:11 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: SV: SV: Re: PDA Gps
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
I'm curious about something Michel. Why do your replies spawn new forum
threads instead of posting in the original thread? Are you not using the new
forum interface?
-Luis
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| Subject: | Covering wingtips- fabric reinforcement plates |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Matt Teixeira" <mteixeira@wmlylesco.com>
Lynn
Thank you for the reply. I can't tell you how happy I am that I don't
have to take another part off this wing. Now I'm moving forward.
Matt
IV-1200, Fresno, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn
Matteson
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Covering wingtips- fabric reinforcement plates
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Yes, that's what I did...rivet the aluminum strip to the underside of
the last rib cap, then when it's time to cover, press the fabric down
into the right-angle formed between the cap and the aluminum strip,
across the strip, around the edge of the strip, and cement under the
strip. It'll hold 'til the cows come home....actually longer than THAT,
thank God! I'm not sure if the fabric would hold just being glued to
the strip itself, so why take chances. And don't forget that this area
will be covered with the pinked finishing tapes, which I also formed
down into the cap/strip interface.
Lynn
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 01:33 PM, Matt Teixeira wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Matt Teixeira"
> <mteixeira@wmlylesco.com>
>
> Lynn
>
> I have one wing with the added-on aluminum strip installed (previous
> owner), but the wing is not covered. Can I cover this added-on strip
> with fabric? Will the fabric have enough hold if it doesn't wrap
> around
> the end rib cap strip?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Matt
> IV-1200
> Fresno, CA
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| Subject: | Lambasting (was: PDA Gps) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Bradley sez:
>...read your post again. To the uninitiated, it sounds as though you
>knew the conditions were marginal, and because of your having such a
>useful instrument, you chose to make the flight, maybe assuming that
>IF things went wrong, your fantastic quasi-wanna-be IFR panel would
>be put to good use.
I think you are the only one that read such things into his message,
Bradley, he said nothing of the kind (yes--I've read it three times
now). He was quite clear that he used the capabilities of his
equipment as a way to exit a bad situation, not an excuse to enter it
in the first place.
Mike G.
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| Subject: | Re: SV: SV: Re: PDA Gps |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
http://forums.matronics.com
A much nicer interface to the email list. Makes it easy to follow a line of conversation
(AKA a thread). Also makes it unnecessary to copy the body of the post
you are responding to.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14140#14140
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| Subject: | Re: Winter blues - Was engine out |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
Michelle wrote..
As for the cold Norway, we have so much snow at the moment that I can't
get to my Kitfox.
Michelle I think I know how you feel. On Jan. 26th it started to snow in
central europe and until this last weekend (Feb. 19th.) nothing moved at our
airfield except the occasional helicopter and a deer bouncing across the
snow covered runway. A winter from hell if I may use an oxymoron. I'm not
looking for sympathy (ok I am looking for sympathy) but we received the
permit to fly back in Ocober. We still had a few things to do so it was
probably December before the S5 was really ready to fly. Since then the test
pilot has been unavailable (understandable family problems) and the winter
has closed the airfield. So a perfectly flyable brand new Kitfox standing in
the hangar for about two months. Maybe next week it will fly. I did,
finally, fly the Motorfalke on Sunday. A beautiful day and a great way to
beat the winter blues. Cheers. Kerry. S5 Kitfox builders helper.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lynn's Kitfox Cowling |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
I had to take about 1/2" to 3/4" from the bottom edge of the sides as
it hung a bit low. My oil cooler is so deep (top to bottom) that I had
to lower the cowl as far as it would go, just barely clearing the
cooling air ducts by 1/4" or so. If I gave the top of the engine any
more clearance, the cowl would hit the oil cooler. Another thing...I
fastened the upper and lower cowls together with clecos, then slid it
over the engine and airframe, back until it cleared the rear of the
prop, then shimmed here and there until it fit. That assured me that
the halves would fit together. I made up a little rectangular box-like
device that stood the camloc socket out away from the airframe, and
allowed the cowl to "relax". My cowl was also slightly long at the
doors (long fore and aft), so I trimmed that to fit. I did have to
extend the camloc mounting locations a bit on the upper, most forward
location on each side.
At first I had cut holes in the lower cowl to allow the muffler exits
to protrude. Then I got to looking and thinking about the muffler exits
exiting the cowl through the lower cowl rear opening, and decided to
make that work. This meant filling the already-cut holes with
fiberglass, and reworking the carb heat adapter (for want of a better
word), to allow the carb heat collar to be moved to the right side of
that adapter, and filling in the hole with a piece of stainless steel.
Then I rotated the muffler so the exit tubes were above the muffler,
and this lined up nicely with the cowl exit area, except that the
muffler exit pipes were a bit short, and would have probably caused the
exhaust gases to turbulate (my spell-checker doesn't like that word,
but I do. : ) ) right at the cowl exit. So I had a couple of 6" tube
extensions welded on to extend them. They look really nice, I think,
and extend about 4 and 1/2" beyond the lip of the lower cowl....right
out into the airstream.
Lynn
Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
On Wednesday, February 22, 2006, at 08:32 AM, Jose M. Toro wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro"
> <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
>
> Lynn:
>
> I haven't attained a "smooth" coupling of the upper
> and lower parts yet. This makes it difficult to
> remove the upper part. I will need to redo the fit.
>
> For model II, I don't need to make adjustments for the
> windshield. My concern is that the skyfox cowling is
> kind of short on the sides, and do not have an
> adequate fit with the frames near the doors. Did you
> extend yours on the sides? How did you handle the
> muffler exits?
>
> Jose
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| Subject: | [Off-topic] List vs. forum. WAS: PDA Gps |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Feb 22, 2006, at 4:10 PM, wingnut wrote:
> I'm curious about something Michel. Why do your replies spawn new
> forum threads instead of posting in the original thread? Are you not
> using the new forum interface?
Well ... you don't learn new tricks to an old ape, Luis. I am used to
receive my list email (I am on many lists) through my mailbox. I know
about forum, I am e.g. on the PocketFMS one. But, with a mailing list,
you're sure to see all the new postings. And answering with copy is no
problems, all browsers will do it for you, if you select that in your
Preferences.
In any case, I also have my "netiquette" which is: Change the title
when the subject changes, delete what is not relevant to the answer,
sign with my name and - in the case of the convention of this list: Add
"do not archive" at the bottom of the message, if I feel it is not of
common interest for Kitfox Builders. And all this is easier on a list,
which I am used to.
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Feb 22, 2006, at 1:23 PM, John Larsen wrote:
> On long cross country flights, you may have to risk IMC at or near
> your destination.
Exactly, John. Only a fool would relay on a GPS to fly IMC. But, when
the proverbial s**t hits the fan ... we use what we have. The danger
is, of course, the false feeling of security it may generate. But it's
a choice we have to make. I decided against a liferaft in my sailboat,
against a ballistic chute in my Kitfox, but for a turn coordinator. Was
that the right decision? I only hope that I won't have to find it out,
one day.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Covering wingtips- fabric reinforcement plates |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Good show,Matt.
Lynn
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On Wednesday, February 22, 2006, at 12:12 PM, Matt Teixeira wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Matt Teixeira"
> <mteixeira@wmlylesco.com>
>
> Lynn
> Thank you for the reply. I can't tell you how happy I am that I don't
> have to take another part off this wing. Now I'm moving forward.
> Matt
> IV-1200, Fresno, CA
>
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| Subject: | engine out- Sonex? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Hey, good to hear from you Bruce. Glad you are still monitoring this list.
How is your Sonex doing? Still happy with it?
Randy Series 5/7 912S
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.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
Harrington
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: engine out
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
The 582 idle speed is too high! On my old IV-1200 582ed (800 hrs), it would
float a long ways when trying to land when the idle was at 2000 rpm static.
I then set it to about 1600-1700 rpm static. Once on the ground with tail
down, I added throttle to taxi with 2000 rpm or more. Just add a bit more
throttle for start engine.
Cheers,
bh
ex-N194KF 582ed IV-1200, 800+ hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Lynn's Kitfox Cowling |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
Lynn:
Thanks for the details! This information will be
useful for my project.
My project, which began as an engine replacement,
yesterday became a complete restoration. I had no
choice but removing all the fabric. This means that
after a year of buying the Jabiru, I will be grounded
for a while.
Jose
--- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
> <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> I had to take about 1/2" to 3/4" from the bottom
> edge of the sides as
> it hung a bit low. My oil cooler is so deep (top to
> bottom) that I had
> to lower the cowl as far as it would go, just barely
> clearing the
> cooling air ducts by 1/4" or so. If I gave the top
> of the engine any
> more clearance, the cowl would hit the oil cooler.
> Another thing...I
> fastened the upper and lower cowls together with
> clecos, then slid it
> over the engine and airframe, back until it cleared
> the rear of the
> prop, then shimmed here and there until it fit. That
> assured me that
> the halves would fit together. I made up a little
> rectangular box-like
> device that stood the camloc socket out away from
> the airframe, and
> allowed the cowl to "relax". My cowl was also
> slightly long at the
> doors (long fore and aft), so I trimmed that to fit.
> I did have to
> extend the camloc mounting locations a bit on the
> upper, most forward
> location on each side.
>
> At first I had cut holes in the lower cowl to allow
> the muffler exits
> to protrude. Then I got to looking and thinking
> about the muffler exits
> exiting the cowl through the lower cowl rear
> opening, and decided to
> make that work. This meant filling the already-cut
> holes with
> fiberglass, and reworking the carb heat adapter (for
> want of a better
> word), to allow the carb heat collar to be moved to
> the right side of
> that adapter, and filling in the hole with a piece
> of stainless steel.
> Then I rotated the muffler so the exit tubes were
> above the muffler,
> and this lined up nicely with the cowl exit area,
> except that the
> muffler exit pipes were a bit short, and would have
> probably caused the
> exhaust gases to turbulate (my spell-checker doesn't
> like that word,
> but I do. : ) ) right at the cowl exit. So I had a
> couple of 6" tube
> extensions welded on to extend them. They look
> really nice, I think,
> and extend about 4 and 1/2" beyond the lip of the
> lower cowl....right
> out into the airstream.
>
> Lynn
> Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2006, at 08:32 AM, Jose
> M. Toro wrote:
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro"
> > <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Lynn:
> >
> > I haven't attained a "smooth" coupling of the
> upper
> > and lower parts yet. This makes it difficult to
> > remove the upper part. I will need to redo the
> fit.
> >
> > For model II, I don't need to make adjustments for
> the
> > windshield. My concern is that the skyfox cowling
> is
> > kind of short on the sides, and do not have an
> > adequate fit with the frames near the doors. Did
> you
> > extend yours on the sides? How did you handle the
> > muffler exits?
> >
> > Jose
>
Jose M. Toro, P.E.
Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200
"A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
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| Subject: | Re: Lynn's Kitfox Cowling |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jimmie Blackwell <jimmieblackwell@sbcglobal.net>
Jose
I may have missed part of this thread, but am curious as to know why you are
replacing all the fabric, age, accident?
Jimmie
"Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro"
Lynn:
Thanks for the details! This information will be
useful for my project.
My project, which began as an engine replacement,
yesterday became a complete restoration. I had no
choice but removing all the fabric. This means that
after a year of buying the Jabiru, I will be grounded
for a while.
Jose
--- Lynn Matteson wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
>
>
> I had to take about 1/2" to 3/4" from the bottom
> edge of the sides as
> it hung a bit low. My oil cooler is so deep (top to
> bottom) that I had
> to lower the cowl as far as it would go, just barely
> clearing the
> cooling air ducts by 1/4" or so. If I gave the top
> of the engine any
> more clearance, the cowl would hit the oil cooler.
> Another thing...I
> fastened the upper and lower cowls together with
> clecos, then slid it
> over the engine and airframe, back until it cleared
> the rear of the
> prop, then shimmed here and there until it fit. That
> assured me that
> the halves would fit together. I made up a little
> rectangular box-like
> device that stood the camloc socket out away from
> the airframe, and
> allowed the cowl to "relax". My cowl was also
> slightly long at the
> doors (long fore and aft), so I trimmed that to fit.
> I did have to
> extend the camloc mounting locations a bit on the
> upper, most forward
> location on each side.
>
> At first I had cut holes in the lower cowl to allow
> the muffler exits
> to protrude. Then I got to looking and thinking
> about the muffler exits
> exiting the cowl through the lower cowl rear
> opening, and decided to
> make that work. This meant filling the already-cut
> holes with
> fiberglass, and reworking the carb heat adapter (for
> want of a better
> word), to allow the carb heat collar to be moved to
> the right side of
> that adapter, and filling in the hole with a piece
> of stainless steel.
> Then I rotated the muffler so the exit tubes were
> above the muffler,
> and this lined up nicely with the cowl exit area,
> except that the
> muffler exit pipes were a bit short, and would have
> probably caused the
> exhaust gases to turbulate (my spell-checker doesn't
> like that word,
> but I do. : ) ) right at the cowl exit. So I had a
> couple of 6" tube
> extensions welded on to extend them. They look
> really nice, I think,
> and extend about 4 and 1/2" beyond the lip of the
> lower cowl....right
> out into the airstream.
>
> Lynn
> Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2006, at 08:32 AM, Jose
> M. Toro wrote:
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro"
> >
> >
> > Lynn:
> >
> > I haven't attained a "smooth" coupling of the
> upper
> > and lower parts yet. This makes it difficult to
> > remove the upper part. I will need to redo the
> fit.
> >
> > For model II, I don't need to make adjustments for
> the
> > windshield. My concern is that the skyfox cowling
> is
> > kind of short on the sides, and do not have an
> > adequate fit with the frames near the doors. Did
> you
> > extend yours on the sides? How did you handle the
> > muffler exits?
> >
> > Jose
>
Jose M. Toro, P.E.
Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200
"A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
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| Subject: | Re: [Off-topic] List vs. forum. WAS: PDA Gps |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
And to add to what Michel said, this matronics List is one hell of a
lot easier to deal with than the Yahoo group that I also am associated
with...the Jabiru Engine group....that thing is a real pain in the a__!
One whole page of "path" information to scroll down through, and they
don't think of using "do not archive"...or maybe they don't HAVE an
archive, I don't know. But if I was King, I'd make the Yahoo Jabiru
Engine group change over to this matronics list/format/forum, whatever,
and let us read information, not unnecessary "path" information. Ok,
guys, I got my flame-proof underwear on...fire away.
Lynn
do not archive
p.s. yes, there is a matronics list for Jabiru Engines, but Yahoo
somehow got its foot in the door and nobody seems to want to
change...it's the old VHS versus Betamax thing all over again.
On Wednesday, February 22, 2006, at 03:06 PM, Michel Verheughe wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> On Feb 22, 2006, at 4:10 PM, wingnut wrote:
>
>> I'm curious about something Michel. Why do your replies spawn new
>> forum threads instead of posting in the original thread? Are you not
>> using the new forum interface?
>
> Well ... you don't learn new tricks to an old ape, Luis. I am used to
> receive my list email (I am on many lists) through my mailbox. I know
> about forum, I am e.g. on the PocketFMS one. But, with a mailing list,
> you're sure to see all the new postings. And answering with copy is no
> problems, all browsers will do it for you, if you select that in your
> Preferences.
>
> In any case, I also have my "netiquette" which is: Change the title
> when the subject changes, delete what is not relevant to the answer,
> sign with my name and - in the case of the convention of this list: Add
> "do not archive" at the bottom of the message, if I feel it is not of
> common interest for Kitfox Builders. And all this is easier on a list,
> which I am used to.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lynn's Kitfox Cowling |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Jose-
Oh, NO! Why the complete restoration?
Lynn
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On Wednesday, February 22, 2006, at 04:01 PM, Jose M. Toro wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro"
> <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
>
> Lynn:
>
> Thanks for the details! This information will be
> useful for my project.
>
> My project, which began as an engine replacement,
> yesterday became a complete restoration. I had no
> choice but removing all the fabric. This means that
> after a year of buying the Jabiru, I will be grounded
> for a while.
>
> Jose
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Eric" <iworonko@cox.net>
There is a Kitfox Turtle Deck on eBay right now.
Eric
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Louis, aka Wingnut,
You see what you get into here? Michel is no innocent
bystander but one of our Gurus! This list is full of
them! Stay tuned.
Kurt S.
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--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
> > From: wingnut [wingnut@spamarrest.com]
> > I'm using an X3 with the same processor as that X5
> running Pocket FMS. It is just
> > fast enough. With all the nifty options turned on,
> I can't zoom out to show more than
> > 20 miles without panning getting too slow.
>
> Ah, please let me explain something, Luis and all
> wannabe PDA navigators. I met the creators of
> PocketFMS in The Netherlands and computer graphic is
> my profession.
>
> Worldwide maps, on navigation instruments, or flight
> simulator - for the matter, are all created from
> vector database we owe the American tax-payers and
> the USGS with their NIMA, DEM and DAFIF databases.
>
> The problem is that the processors used today in
> PDAs cannot handle such a large amount of vector
> graphic. On your PC, it is handled by your graphic
> card, which a PDA doesn't have. Therefore maps for
> PDA applications have to be transformed to bitmap
> format. The drawback is that bitmap files are large.
> Hence the slow update of the maps and - in the case
> of PocketFMS - the inability to zoom close in.
>
> Luis, for PocketFMS, I know that the team is
> currently working at a new display model that should
> increase the refreshing time of the moving map. Next
> version is planned for April.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
I have one as well. Not listed yet but for sale. It is for a model 5.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 4:08 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Turtle Deck
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Eric" <iworonko@cox.net>
There is a Kitfox Turtle Deck on eBay right now.
Eric
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| Subject: | Re: engine out- Sonex? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
Hi Randy,
Still loving my Sonex! And monitoring the Kitfox list!
And waiting for a renewed SkyStar or....
My Sonex stalls at 41 IAS, and has hit 196 ground speed per my GPS!
I cruise at 140-150 mph on 5.5-5.8 gph 193 octane auto gas. 6 more being
built in SW Oregon. We'll have a Squadron before long!
Cheers,
Bruce ex-N194KF, 582ed IV-1200, 800+ hrs
> Hey, good to hear from you Bruce. Glad you are still monitoring this
> list.
>
> How is your Sonex doing? Still happy with it?
>
> Randy Series 5/7 912S
>
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