Today's Message Index:
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1. 07:09 AM - Water Pressure Gauge (Larry Martin)
2. 07:52 AM - Re: Water Pressure Gauge (Bradley M Webb)
3. 08:15 AM - Re: Radiator ideas (Bradley M Webb)
4. 08:15 AM - Re: Flaperon Hanger Bracket Installation (Lowell Fitt)
5. 08:23 AM - Re: Water Pressure Gauge (Jim Burke)
6. 08:59 AM - AOK tires (Sid Hausding)
7. 09:00 AM - Re: AN Fittings (vft@aol.com)
8. 09:10 AM - Re: Flaperon Hanger Bracket Installation (kurt schrader)
9. 12:21 PM - rudder pedal reinforcements (Fox5flyer)
10. 01:51 PM - Re: rudder pedal reinforcements (jdmcbean)
11. 04:42 PM - Re: rudder pedal reinforcements (Fox5flyer)
12. 09:03 PM - Tax deduction (Greaves)
13. 09:23 PM - Re: rudder pedal reinforcements (RAY Gignac)
14. 09:24 PM - Re: Tax deduction (jdmcbean)
15. 09:24 PM - Re: rudder pedal reinforcements (jdmcbean)
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| Subject: | Water Pressure Gauge |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <CrownLJ@verizon.net>
Does anyone use a water PRESSURE gauge to monitor the cooling system?
What are the pros/cons?
Thanks,
Larry
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| Subject: | Water Pressure Gauge |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
Larry,
I'm thinking about it, as well. CPS recommends on in their articale on Rotax
cooling systems (but then, they also recommend a CHT gauge, which is useless
on a water cooled Rotax). It would accomplish two things: 1) if your water
pump fails, it would register that well before you discover the temps are
high, in the same manner as the oil pressure gauge, and 2) it would verify
that your pressure cap is functioning properly.
I suppose that it would also help detect a low water situation, or
cavitation (sp?) in the pump, as is prone on my 582.
Cons? The only one I can think of is common to all instruments: You must
look at it to detect a change. This is one of the great things about the
engine monitors available today. They'll alarm you if anything goes amiss,
so you don't have to continually eyeball the gauge.
Bradley
KF2 N1836
Middle GA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:03 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Water Pressure Gauge
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <CrownLJ@verizon.net>
Does anyone use a water PRESSURE gauge to monitor the cooling system?
What are the pros/cons?
Thanks,
Larry
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
Finally, success! After trying a number of times, I finally got the pics of
my radiator onto Sportflight.com. They're under "Add Ons/Modifications".
I've also uploaded a .jpg drawing into "Sketches" section showing my setup
theory. So far, it works pretty well, but I'm still taking care of details,
like total sealing. I'm also considering increasing the lip size, from 1/4
inch to 3/4 inch, in an effort to further increase the low-pressure
"bubble", and help on hot days.
For reference, the previous owner had the airbrake under-fuse setup, and
said 200 degrees was common. My setup has never exceeded 188 degrees so far,
and the 582 at 5800rpm gives me VNE (90mph). So I guess I've improved it.
The rad is mounted using SS plates bolted to the firewall, and the rad just
rests on the bottom lips. Some cowling seal rubber creates a chamber that
forces air through the rad downward. It then exits the bottom. The muffler
has a "cowl" with an air space, about 1/2 inch, and is held on with large
hose clamps. The idea here was to allow air flow to take the muff heat away
from the rad.
I'll try to get some pics of my cowl scoop and post them, but it's eerily
similar to some of the others posted there. Just some .025 curved aluminum,
side plates, and a hinged flap with lip at the back.
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bradley M Webb
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:31 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Radiator ideas
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
This weekend I will try to post them up. Maybe Sportflight site. I'll let
you all know when and where.
Bradley
KF2 N1836
Middle GA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 9:20 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Radiator ideas
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 03:53 AM 2/24/2006, you wrote:
>I'm guessing what the article is really saying is that you must play around
>with Bernoulli.
Bradley's got it right; and I'd love to see his installation. I have the
radiator below the fuselage with the Skystar "scoop" which is just a big
flat plate as far as drag is concerned. A real radiator scoop actually
provides thrust, as in the P-51, because the heat added increases the
velocity of the exhaust beyond that of the incoming air. I hadn't thought
there was room in the cowl for this type of installation. I'll have to take
another look.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperon Hanger Bracket Installation |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Bill and Ron,
I just checked my hangar brackets and there is at least 1/2" between the
trailing edge and the point where the top bracket and the bottom bracket
meet just before the rivet. Actually it's more like 5/8" - I went out and
measured and the latter is what I have on my airplane. I fly a Mod
IV-1200. The fit gets even tighter after covering - two layers of fabric
and a layer of finishing tape on both sides of the wing, at least on the aft
most inch or so.
Regarding the aluminum backing plates and the drilling process. Put a
spring clamp on both sides of the intended hole. I thought I was pretty
careful about the backing plate gluing process, but I had more than one
separate from the capstrip.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Flaperon Hanger Bracket Installation
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
> Bill I am right behind you and hope to be mounting my flaperons in the
> next
> week or two. I will refrain from suggesting mounting them farther back
> than
> designed for three reasons. 1 make sure you are mounting to enough rib.
> 2
> make sure you can align with bearing center at turtle deck. 3 I might get
> flamed for suggesting a shortcut. Hopefully someone else has been down
> this
> road before and can offer a good solution.
> I am rebuilding a wing that was destroyed by the former non-builder.
> One of the things he did wrong was to force a dull bit while drilling the
> flaperon attachment holes in the wing. This pushed some of the aluminum
> reinforcement plates away from the rib so that they were not captured by
> the
> rivets when assembled. I plan on using a new bit in a high speed drill to
> do these holes.
> Ron NB Ore MK IV Speedster
>
>>From: "cjswa" <cjswa@comcast.net>
>>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Kitfox-List: Flaperon Hanger Bracket Installation
>>Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 21:20:12 -0500
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "cjswa" <cjswa@comcast.net>
>>
>>List:
>>
>>I am getting ready to drill the holes to attach the flaperon hanger
>>brackets
>>to the ribs on a Model 4 - 1050. The manual calls for a space of 0.25"
>>from
>>the trailing edge to the edge of the top bracket bolt hole. The problem
>>is
>>that when I slide them onto the rib without bending them I get something
>>more like a 1/2" gap. So my question is, do I install them with the 1/2"
>>gap, or do I force them further up the ribs by flexing (bending) them to
>>get
>>the 1/4" gap? Is there a problem with having them mounted further back
>>from
>>the trailing edge than the manual calls for? How much space do other's
>>have
>>between the training edge and the bracket?
>>
>>Thanks for any and all advice.
>>
>>Bill Anderson
>>Model 4 -1050
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Water Pressure Gauge |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
Larry, I have always used a water pressure gauge on my 582. I would say it
is one of the most important gauges I monitor during flight. A absents of
pressure will let me know I have a leak or a low water problem. It can also
ensure my pressure cap is maintaining the rated pressure of the cap itself.
Like any other gauge you have to scan it on a regular basic's for it to be a
useful instrument.
Jim N94JE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Water Pressure Gauge
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
>
> Larry,
> I'm thinking about it, as well. CPS recommends on in their articale on
> Rotax
> cooling systems (but then, they also recommend a CHT gauge, which is
> useless
> on a water cooled Rotax). It would accomplish two things: 1) if your water
> pump fails, it would register that well before you discover the temps are
> high, in the same manner as the oil pressure gauge, and 2) it would verify
> that your pressure cap is functioning properly.
>
> I suppose that it would also help detect a low water situation, or
> cavitation (sp?) in the pump, as is prone on my 582.
>
> Cons? The only one I can think of is common to all instruments: You must
> look at it to detect a change. This is one of the great things about the
> engine monitors available today. They'll alarm you if anything goes amiss,
> so you don't have to continually eyeball the gauge.
>
> Bradley
> KF2 N1836
> Middle GA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Martin
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:03 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Water Pressure Gauge
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <CrownLJ@verizon.net>
>
> Does anyone use a water PRESSURE gauge to monitor the cooling system?
>
> What are the pros/cons?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Sid Hausding <avidsid@yahoo.com>
Okay, know whom to contact now.........Thanks,
Sid
do not archive.
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Malcolmbru@aol.com wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Malcolmbru@aol.com
I got the tires from a guy in Michigan they are common in powered parachutes
$80 delivered
---------------------------------
Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: vft@aol.com
I have found that Earls Indy 317-241-0318 seems to stock a lot of things that
get backordered by Summit or Jegs. It helps to have an Earls catalog when you
take to them as they don't list anything on their website.
Danny Melnik
F1 #25
Melbourne (FL) Rocket Factory
-----Original Message-----
From: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
Sent: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:43:28 -0500
Subject: Kitfox-List: AN Fittings
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
I need two 14mm to AN -8 fittings for my oil system. I ordered them thru
Summit Racing the first of January. They were back ordered and supposed
to ship Feb. 15. Now the ship date has been pushed back to April 4th.
Summit supplies Earl's fittings. I've checked on several web sites and
can't find then any where else. Anybody know of an alternate source?
David Estapa
Woodstock, GA
N97DE S5TD 912ULS (ready to Taxi Test)
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperon Hanger Bracket Installation |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Hi Bill,
I had to use some force and clamps to put mine in
position, but I went by the plans here. It was worth
it. Just be careful not to strain the rivets in the
flapperon brackets too much. I think I bent all the
upper mounts a little to keep the strain down and make
them fit better. It only takes a little verticle
change to make them go forward that extra 1/4 inch.
Take your time and it will come out right.
Kurt S.
--- cjswa <cjswa@comcast.net> wrote:
> List:
>
> I am getting ready to drill the holes to attach the
> flaperon hanger brackets
> to the ribs on a Model 4 - 1050. The manual calls
> for a space of 0.25" from
> the trailing edge to the edge of the top bracket
> bolt hole. The problem is
> that when I slide them onto the rib without bending
> them I get something
> more like a 1/2" gap. So my question is, do I
> install them with the 1/2"
> gap, or do I force them further up the ribs by
> flexing (bending) them to get
> the 1/4" gap? Is there a problem with having them
> mounted further back from
> the trailing edge than the manual calls for? How
> much space do other's have
> between the training edge and the bracket?
>
> Thanks for any and all advice.
>
> Bill Anderson
> Model 4 -1050
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| Subject: | rudder pedal reinforcements |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
While browsing Sportflight.com, our photo archive, I ran across some rudder pedal
reinforcements by Nelson Goguen. Very nice and appears to doable without having
to remove the pedal assemblies. Nelson, if you're out there can you tell
us more about them please? Did you make them yourself or find them aftermarket?
Deke
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| Subject: | rudder pedal reinforcements |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Try http://sportplanellc.com/Misc%20Products.htm
Fly Safe !!
John McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:18 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: rudder pedal reinforcements
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
While browsing Sportflight.com, our photo archive, I ran across some rudder
pedal reinforcements by Nelson Goguen. Very nice and appears to doable
without having to remove the pedal assemblies. Nelson, if you're out there
can you tell us more about them please? Did you make them yourself or find
them aftermarket?
Deke
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| Subject: | Re: rudder pedal reinforcements |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Thanks John. Was I correct in my assumption that they're split and can be
installed without removing the pedal assemblies?
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:48 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: rudder pedal reinforcements
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
> Try http://sportplanellc.com/Misc%20Products.htm
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:18 PM
> To: Kitfox List
> Subject: Kitfox-List: rudder pedal reinforcements
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> While browsing Sportflight.com, our photo archive, I ran across some
rudder
> pedal reinforcements by Nelson Goguen. Very nice and appears to doable
> without having to remove the pedal assemblies. Nelson, if you're out
there
> can you tell us more about them please? Did you make them yourself or
find
> them aftermarket?
> Deke
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Greaves" <tenorio41@comcast.net>
Anyone out there who has taken a big hit financially as a result of Skystar's Chapter
7 examined the tax implications?
I got nailed since I didn't get my engine and a number of other parts. Does anyone
know if one can deduct the financial loss somehow when filing this year with
the IRS? Perhaps we have to wait until eternity for the bankruptcy crud to
officially be over so see if we get a dime from Skyscrew before claiming it
as some form of 'loss'....
Wade
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| Subject: | Re: rudder pedal reinforcements |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@msn.com>
John, will these work on the model IV?
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: jdmcbean<mailto:jdmcbean@cableone.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:48 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: rudder pedal reinforcements
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net<mailto:jdmcbean@cableone.net>>
Try http://sportplanellc.com/Misc%20Products.htm<http://sportplanellc.com/Misc%20Products.htm>
Fly Safe !!
John McBean
www.sportplanellc.com<http://www.sportplanellc.com/>
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:18 PM
To: Kitfox List
Subject: Kitfox-List: rudder pedal reinforcements
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us<mailto:morid@northland.lib.mi.us>>
While browsing Sportflight.com, our photo archive, I ran across some rudder
pedal reinforcements by Nelson Goguen. Very nice and appears to doable
without having to remove the pedal assemblies. Nelson, if you're out there
can you tell us more about them please? Did you make them yourself or find
them aftermarket?
Deke
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Technically it is a loss and therefore should be deductable.. But I am no
Tax accountant.
Fly Safe !!
John McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Greaves
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:59 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tax deduction
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Greaves" <tenorio41@comcast.net>
Anyone out there who has taken a big hit financially as a result of
Skystar's Chapter 7 examined the tax implications?
I got nailed since I didn't get my engine and a number of other parts. Does
anyone know if one can deduct the financial loss somehow when filing this
year with the IRS? Perhaps we have to wait until eternity for the
bankruptcy crud to officially be over so see if we get a dime from Skyscrew
before claiming it as some form of 'loss'....
Wade
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| Subject: | rudder pedal reinforcements |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Deke,
Yes that is correct...
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: rudder pedal reinforcements
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Thanks John. Was I correct in my assumption that they're split and can be
installed without removing the pedal assemblies?
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:48 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: rudder pedal reinforcements
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
> Try http://sportplanellc.com/Misc%20Products.htm
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:18 PM
> To: Kitfox List
> Subject: Kitfox-List: rudder pedal reinforcements
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> While browsing Sportflight.com, our photo archive, I ran across some
rudder
> pedal reinforcements by Nelson Goguen. Very nice and appears to doable
> without having to remove the pedal assemblies. Nelson, if you're out
there
> can you tell us more about them please? Did you make them yourself or
find
> them aftermarket?
> Deke
>
>
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