---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/07/06: 35 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:11 AM - Re: Svare! (Michel Verheughe) 2. 03:59 AM - Finally found replacement tires for Kitfox (kevin ridsdale) 3. 06:51 AM - Rotax Owners Assn (Marco Menezes) 4. 06:56 AM - Re: Avid/Kitfox (Jose M. Toro) 5. 07:24 AM - Re: Rotax Owners Assn (Bob Robertson) 6. 07:34 AM - Re: Avid/Kitfox (Fox5flyer) 7. 08:24 AM - Arizona attractions (Dave Wahlquist) 8. 08:50 AM - Re: Intercooler (kurt schrader) 9. 09:52 AM - Re: Trip to Florida - OT (kurt schrader) 10. 11:28 AM - New Member (debrun26@juno.com) 11. 12:28 PM - Re: Intercooler (John Anderson) 12. 12:40 PM - Re: New Member (Alan & Linda Daniels) 13. 01:01 PM - Re: New Member (wingnut) 14. 02:23 PM - Re: Re: New Member (debrun26@juno.com) 15. 02:23 PM - Re: New Member (debrun26@juno.com) 16. 02:41 PM - Re: Re: New Member (John Marzulli) 17. 02:51 PM - Re: Trip to Florida - OT (Andrew Matthaey) 18. 03:09 PM - Re: Re: Avid/Kitfox (Randy Daughenbaugh) 19. 03:15 PM - Re: New Member (wingnut) 20. 03:40 PM - Re: Finally found replacement tires for Kitfox (Mark.Summers@lwbref.com) 21. 03:44 PM - 912 Spider Tank position (Colin Durey) 22. 04:00 PM - Re: Trip to Florida - OT (Michael Gibbs) 23. 04:49 PM - Re: Trip to Florida - OT (Michael Logan) 24. 04:53 PM - Re: Intercooler and multiple ignition single plug (Michael Logan) 25. 05:14 PM - Re: Trip to Florida - OT (Andrew Matthaey) 26. 05:23 PM - Re: Re: New Member (debrun26@juno.com) 27. 05:24 PM - Re: 912 Spider Tank position (Lowell Fitt) 28. 05:43 PM - Re: Arizona attractions (DPREMGOOD@aol.com) 29. 05:53 PM - Re: Intercooler and multiple ignition single plug (John Anderson) 30. 05:54 PM - Avid/Kitfox (Sid Hausding) 31. 06:23 PM - Re: New Member (AMuller589@AOL.COM) 32. 06:43 PM - LANDING GEAR QUESTION (Barbara & Keith Schneider) 33. 09:39 PM - Re: Arizona attractions (Les Chambers) 34. 11:13 PM - Re: New Member (debrun26@juno.com) 35. 11:39 PM - Bankruptcy... (Greaves) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:11:59 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Svare! --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe > From: Randy Daughenbaugh [rjdaugh@rapidnet.com] > I'll be darned! I got some new software that knows Norwegian! It puts the > SV:subjects right in date order with the RE:subjects. So now I can read a > thread in date order. Cool! Now, hang on, Randy; what kind of Norwegian is it? We have Bokmaal, closest to Danish and the language spoken in Oslo and the south-east, then: Nynorsk, a slightly different dialect spoken in the mountains ... am I loosing you? Eh! stay awake, guys! ... Zzzzzzz (boring!) ... :-) Cheers, Michel do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:59:36 AM PST US From: kevin ridsdale Subject: Kitfox-List: Finally found replacement tires for Kitfox --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kevin ridsdale After searching long and hard, I finally found the supplier to Kitfox and the company is willing to sell to anyone needing replacement tires. I purchached a pair last week for only 52.00. Contact Mippi Ultralights at 734-377-2670 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:13 AM PST US From: Marco Menezes Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax Owners Assn --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes List: Is anyone else having trouble connecting to Rotax Owners Assn website? Know of any alternative sites to get Rotax services instructions, letters and bulletins? Thanks, Marco Menezes Model 2 582 N99KX --------------------------------- Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:08 AM PST US From: "Jose M. Toro" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Avid/Kitfox --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" Is it legal to drink beer while hangar flying???? Have fun guys! Jose --- Sid Hausding wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Sid Hausding > > > I was even thinking about flying down to Sun'N'Fun > this year to see what that is all > about................maybe, there too. Oshkosh for > sure............. > ______________________- > > Paul Seehafer wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" > > > Sid, > > Just because you are Avid-less for the moment > doesn't mean we can't still > drink beer together at Oshkosh. I hope to see you > there again this year. > > Paul > > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sid Hausding" > > Paul, > > another beer at Oshkosh, too. > > Sid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Why can't we all just get along?" > > --------------------------------- > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a > breeze. > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > Jose M. Toro, P.E. Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200 "A slow flight in the Caribbean..." ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:06 AM PST US From: "Bob Robertson" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax Owners Assn --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" Hi Marcos, Try www.kodiakbs.com . click on TECH INFO and you ar there. The Rotax Owners Assn web site has been acting up the last couple of days. I just checked and the Kodiak web site seems to be the only way in right now. regards Bob R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marco Menezes" Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:47 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax Owners Assn > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes > > List: > > Is anyone else having trouble connecting to Rotax Owners Assn website? Know of any alternative sites to get Rotax services instructions, letters and bulletins? > > Thanks, > > > Marco Menezes > Model 2 582 N99KX > > --------------------------------- > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:57 AM PST US From: "Fox5flyer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Avid/Kitfox --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" Only if you're also a "volunteer" fireman! Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jose M. Toro" Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:55 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Avid/Kitfox > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" > > Is it legal to drink beer while hangar flying???? > > Have fun guys! > > Jose > > --- Sid Hausding wrote: > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Sid Hausding > > > > > > I was even thinking about flying down to Sun'N'Fun > > this year to see what that is all > > about................maybe, there too. Oshkosh for > > sure............. > > ______________________- > > > > Paul Seehafer wrote: > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" > > > > > > Sid, > > > > Just because you are Avid-less for the moment > > doesn't mean we can't still > > drink beer together at Oshkosh. I hope to see you > > there again this year. > > > > Paul > > > > do not archive > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sid Hausding" > > > Paul, > > > another beer at Oshkosh, too. > > > Sid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Why can't we all just get along?" > > > > --------------------------------- > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a > > breeze. > > > > > > > > > > browse > > Subscriptions page, > > FAQ, > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > > > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jose M. Toro, P.E. > Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200 > "A slow flight in the Caribbean..." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:46 AM PST US From: Dave Wahlquist Subject: Kitfox-List: Arizona attractions --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave Wahlquist I will be traveling to the fine state of Arizona in April. Do any list members have any favorite aviation related Museums etc. I should be checking out while I am there? I know there are a few located in AZ. If you have input please respond off list. Thanks Dave do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:55 AM PST US From: kurt schrader Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Intercooler --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader Well that explains it. I can imagine a backfire into a fuel ladened intercooler could be messy. Now how do I convert to injected, which I prefer, and a 2 plug head? $$$$$$ Kurt S. --- John Anderson wrote: > Yes, you sure are correct here Rick. John A. > > From: "wingsdown" > Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 18:50:13 -0800 > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" > > > Kurt, > > To all. This can only be done if the engine is > injected. > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 1:41 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Intercooler > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" > > Kurt S. wrote. But now you have to tell us how you > intercooled the turbo??? > > Kurt, I sourced a small intercooler off a wee Toyota > Starlet (New > Zealand - > might not be called that in US) and it took very > little modification to > fit. > I sits just under the upper cowl (std 0200 cowl) and > I have fabricated a > > f/glass air shoot to channel air from the front > inlet to it. John ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:52:23 AM PST US From: kurt schrader Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Trip to Florida - OT --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader Well Andrew, that makes it bad timing on my part times 2. I live in Rockledge about 45 minutes North of Vero, E. of 95. But I just flew up to KY to turn in my taxes and drive my van down to Fl with my last moving load. Won't be around when you are there. :-( Second I'll miss the big Titusville airshow going on next weekend, 11th and 12th I believe. They have a air museum there too. I found out about it too late, but you could make up the difference if you make it. ;-) Supposed to be a great one - best for eastern FL. Kurt S. --- Andrew Matthaey wrote: > Hi all, > > I'll be driving down to Florida with my girlfriend > at the end of the week. > The mission - Scout out several flight schools where > I can finish up my > CFI/CFII/MEI and where she can finish up her > Commercial/Multi/Instrument...Would there be anybody > along the I-95 > corridor, or down in Florida that we could overnight > with? We're looking at > possibly staying in Atlanta, Jacksonville, Vero > Beach...and? Not sure if the schools will put us up! > > Well, just an idea...! I can be reached anytime > off-group. > > Thanks! > Andrew > KF3 582 > > do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:28:03 AM PST US From: "debrun26@juno.com" Subject: Kitfox-List: New Member --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "debrun26@juno.com" I just signed up since I'm planning to buy a kitfox here in Alaska. I've never flown before and would like to learn how in my own little plane to save $ and be well aquanted with what I'll be using. My plan is to have the plane on floats in summer and skiis during the winter. The kitfoxIV I'm looking at has a 912UL in it. Is this practical and is it hard to find an instructor that will train on an experimental tail dragger? Also, what is a good pricerange for a kitfox... what should I look out for? Do you know of other kitfox owners in Alaska? Thanks, Layne Cropper Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! I just signed up since I'm planning to buy a kitfox here in Alaska. I've never flown before and would like to learn how in my own little plane to save $ and be well aquanted with what I'll be using. My plan is to have the plane on floats in summer and skiis during the winter. The kitfoxIV I'm looking at has a 912UL in it. Is this practical and is it hard to find an instructor that will train on an experimental tail dragger?Also, what is a good pricerange for a kitfox... what should I look out for? Do you know of other kitfox ownersin Alaska? Thanks, Layne Cropper Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:28:50 PM PST US From: "John Anderson" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Intercooler --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" Two plug heads are available here in NZ - or were. My engine was originally EFI so I'm using the original injectors but have a Link Electrics ECU. I have dual primary ignition into a MSD switcher to single secondary. J. From: kurt schrader Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Intercooler --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader Well that explains it. I can imagine a backfire into a fuel ladened intercooler could be messy. Now how do I convert to injected, which I prefer, and a 2 plug head? $$$$$$ Kurt S. --- John Anderson wrote: >Yes, you sure are correct here Rick. John A. > >From: "wingsdown" >Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 18:50:13 -0800 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" > > >Kurt, > >To all. This can only be done if the engine is >injected. > >Rick > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 1:41 PM >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: Intercooler > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" > >Kurt S. wrote. But now you have to tell us how you >intercooled the turbo??? > >Kurt, I sourced a small intercooler off a wee Toyota >Starlet (New >Zealand - >might not be called that in US) and it took very >little modification to >fit. >I sits just under the upper cowl (std 0200 cowl) and >I have fabricated a > >f/glass air shoot to channel air from the front >inlet to it. John ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:40:12 PM PST US From: Alan & Linda Daniels Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New Member --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels There are several in Alaska, but Alaska is big. Where are you. debrun26@juno.com wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "debrun26@juno.com" > >I just signed up since I'm planning to buy a kitfox here in Alaska. I've never flown before and would like to learn how in my own little plane to save $ and be well aquanted with what I'll be using. My plan is to have the plane on floats in summer and skiis during the winter. The kitfoxIV I'm looking at has a 912UL in it. Is this practical and is it hard to find an instructor that will train on an experimental tail dragger? Also, what is a good pricerange for a kitfox... what should I look out for? Do you know of other kitfox owners in Alaska? Thanks, Layne Cropper > > >Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! > >I just signed up since I'm planning to buy a kitfox here in Alaska. I've never flown before and would like to learn how in my own little plane to save $ and be well aquanted with what I'll be using. My plan is to have the plane on floats in summer and skiis during the winter. The kitfoxIV I'm looking at has a 912UL in it. Is this practical and is it hard to find an instructor that will train on an experimental tail dragger?Also, what is a good pricerange for a kitfox... what should I look out for? Do you know of other kitfox ownersin Alaska? Thanks, Layne Cropper > > >Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:01:24 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: New Member From: "wingnut" --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" I did a similar thing. I started out my training in a 172 and transitioned to a Kitfox after the solo. Starting out in a 172 actually slowed me down because I then had to unlearn a bit in order transition to a light tail dragger. Landing a Kitfox is a very different experience. After my second lesson in my Kitfox, I was still struggling just to keep her on the centerline. I felt compelled at one point to tell my instructor that I wasn't lying about having flown an airplane before. His response was "Yep. Ye aint gotcher taining wheels no more". As for finding an instructor.. I had a heck of a time myself. Im very lucky that the one guy I did find ended up being an excellent instructor. It took me three tries to find a decent instructor when I was training in a 172. Just one thing: Can you start off on wheels? Seems like a lot to learn at once to start up on floats or skiis. -Luis R -N824KF > I've never flown before and would like to learn how in my own little plane to save $ and be well aquanted with what I'll be using. My plan is to have the plane on floats in summer and skiis during the winter. The kitfoxIV I'm looking at has a 912UL in it. Is this practical and is it hard to find an instructor that will train on an experimental tail dragger? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=20181#20181 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:23:36 PM PST US From: "debrun26@juno.com" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: New Member --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "debrun26@juno.com" Yes... I would be staring on wheels then much later go to skiis... then floats. how did you go about finding your instructor? Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Yes... I would be staring on wheels then much later go to skiis... then floats. how did you go about finding your instructor? Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:23:36 PM PST US From: "debrun26@juno.com" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New Member --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "debrun26@juno.com" I'm in anchorage along with 2/3 of the population. thanks for the reply!!! Layne Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! I'm in anchorage along with 2/3 of the population. thanks for the reply!!! Layne Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:41:50 PM PST US From: "John Marzulli" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: New Member --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Marzulli" I did most of my training in 150/152s, with a little in 172s, but I have never flown a taildragger. Last month I got my float rating in a Cub Crafters Top Cub down here in Seattle. The training wasn't that hard of a transition, and in fact my instructor even suggested that going from a trike to floats to a dragger was easier for most people than going from a trike to a dragger. On 3/7/06, wingnut wrote: > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" > > I did a similar thing. I started out my training in a 172 and transitioned > to a Kitfox after the solo. Starting out in a 172 actually slowed me down > because I then had to unlearn a bit in order transition to a light tail > dragger. Landing a Kitfox is a very different experience. After my second > lesson in my Kitfox, I was still struggling just to keep her on the > centerline. I felt compelled at one point to tell my instructor that I > wasn't lying about having flown an airplane before. His response was "Yep. > Ye aint gotcher taining wheels no more". > > As for finding an instructor.. I had a heck of a time myself. Im very > lucky that the one guy I did find ended up being an excellent > instructor. It took me three tries to find a decent instructor when I was > training in a 172. > > Just one thing: Can you start off on wheels? Seems like a lot to learn at > once to start up on floats or skiis. > > -Luis R > -N824KF > > > > I've never flown before and would like to learn how in my own little > plane to save $ and be well aquanted with what I'll be using. My plan is to > have the plane on floats in summer and skiis during the winter. The kitfoxIV > I'm looking at has a 912UL in it. Is this practical and is it hard to find > an instructor that will train on an experimental tail dragger? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D20181#20181 > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:51:17 PM PST US From: "Andrew Matthaey" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Trip to Florida - OT --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" Arghhh...that's too bad! I'll take lots of pictures if I get the chance to get to the airshow :) Andrew >From: kurt schrader >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Trip to Florida - OT >Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 09:49:51 -0800 (PST) > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > > >Well Andrew, that makes it bad timing on my part times >2. I live in Rockledge about 45 minutes North of >Vero, E. of 95. But I just flew up to KY to turn in >my taxes and drive my van down to Fl with my last >moving load. Won't be around when you are there. :-( > >Second I'll miss the big Titusville airshow going on >next weekend, 11th and 12th I believe. They have a >air museum there too. I found out about it too late, >but you could make up the difference if you make it. >;-) Supposed to be a great one - best for eastern FL. > >Kurt S. > >--- Andrew Matthaey >wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'll be driving down to Florida with my girlfriend > > at the end of the week. > > The mission - Scout out several flight schools where > > I can finish up my > > CFI/CFII/MEI and where she can finish up her > > Commercial/Multi/Instrument...Would there be anybody > > along the I-95 > > corridor, or down in Florida that we could overnight > > with? We're looking at > > possibly staying in Atlanta, Jacksonville, Vero > > Beach...and? Not sure if the schools will put us up! > > > > Well, just an idea...! I can be reached anytime > > off-group. > > > > Thanks! > > Andrew > > KF3 582 > > > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:37 PM PST US From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Avid/Kitfox --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" Allan said: I tried to buy a kit for his elliptical wing plane but he was closing that down and doing something else. Alan, There are two of the four place Elipse's being built here in Rapid City. - EAA Chapter 39. I think that they are both about a year away from flying. The wings are a work of art. I promised someone on the list to try to keep them up to date on what is happening with these planes. (I have their name some where here.....) Randy . -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan & Linda Daniels Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Avid/Kitfox --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels Several years ago Dean Wilson was the guest speaker at our EAA 837 banquet. He was involved in helping one of our members with the Mifyter bi-plane. It was very interesting to say the least. I wish we had recorded it. It was amazing how many planes and projects he had been involved in. From ag spray planes to sea planes. I tried to buy a kit for his elliptical wing plane but he was closing that down and doing something else. We got to see drawings of the some of the projects and stories about the French adventurer and the planes he built for him, and about the TV show that was done with it. One of the things my wife and I like most about this experimental airplane stuff is the really good and amazing people we meet through it. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:15:33 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: New Member From: "wingnut" --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" I searched long and hard in various venus (including the AOPA and EAA web sites). In the end the only thing that worked was visiting the local airports and talking to the locals. > how did you go about finding your instructor? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=20207#20207 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:40:47 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Finally found replacement tires for Kitfox From: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark.Summers@lwbref.com Tell me more, I am looking for a tire taller and more narrow than the ones I have they are 18x8.5x8 what size did you get. Thanks Mark kf 2 582 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:44:55 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 Spider Tank position From: "Colin Durey" --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey" Hi Guys! I've finally mounted the engine on my KF4 and am starting to fit bits to it. Looking at the manual ('94 vintage), the pictures are both sparse and fuzzy, so it makes it a bit hard to follow in places. I am currently working on re-mounting the spider tank. The instructions say to mount it as far to the right as possible, and an obvious caveat to this is the likely conflict with the carb-heat box which needs to be in the same general vicinity. Does anyone have nice clear pictures of their installed / being installed spider tank on a 912 that I can use for reference? Actually, pictures of the whole engine install, or parts thereof, will be very usefull. (Don't forget that the pictures will need to be upside down for me to be able to read them properly, 'cause Sydney is in the southern hemisphere :-)) Regards Colin Durey Sydney +61-418-677073 (M) +61-2-945466162 (F) ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:00:07 PM PST US From: Michael Gibbs Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Trip to Florida - OT --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs >I'll be driving down to Florida with my girlfriend at the end of the >week...Would there be anybody along the I-95 corridor, or down in >Florida that we could overnight with? Gee, Andrew, that depends. How cute is your girlfriend? :-) Mike G. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:49:27 PM PST US From: "Michael Logan" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Trip to Florida - OT --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" Atlanta is not anywhere near I-95, it is on I-75 and I-85 though. Where are you coming from? -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Matthaey Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:58 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Trip to Florida - OT --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" Hi all, I'll be driving down to Florida with my girlfriend at the end of the week. The mission - Scout out several flight schools where I can finish up my CFI/CFII/MEI and where she can finish up her Commercial/Multi/Instrument...Would there be anybody along the I-95 corridor, or down in Florida that we could overnight with? We're looking at possibly staying in Atlanta, Jacksonville, Vero Beach...and? Not sure if the schools will put us up! Well, just an idea...! I can be reached anytime off-group. Thanks! Andrew KF3 582 do not archive >From: "Don Smythe" >To: >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 questions >Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:09:33 -0500 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" > >Sounds good but don't let the possibility of a slipping gear box get too >far >back in your memory. I spent weeks and over $2500. on a $2.00 fix. The >slipping "C" box is a known problem as the Rotax Bulletin points out. I >wore the list out with my "surging" RPM problems. I think Bruce Harrington >hit on the box early but I ignored his valuable advice. Finally when I >called Lockwood to describe my situation I wasn't half finished when he >said, "YOUR GEARBOX IS SLIPPING! Actually, I managed to use the same >gasket >so the cost of repair wasn't even $2.00. > >Don Smythe >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Marco Menezes" >To: >Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:10 AM >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 questions > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes > > > > Thanks Don. I'm gonna try Bob Roberstson's "fix" first. If that doesn't >do > > it, you've given me another possibility. > > > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 04:53:40 PM PST US From: "Michael Logan" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Intercooler and multiple ignition single plug --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" John, Does that mean you have four MSD switchers? Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:26 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Intercooler --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" Two plug heads are available here in NZ - or were. My engine was originally EFI so I'm using the original injectors but have a Link Electrics ECU. I have dual primary ignition into a MSD switcher to single secondary. J. From: kurt schrader Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Intercooler --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader Well that explains it. I can imagine a backfire into a fuel ladened intercooler could be messy. Now how do I convert to injected, which I prefer, and a 2 plug head? $$$$$$ Kurt S. --- John Anderson wrote: >Yes, you sure are correct here Rick. John A. > >From: "wingsdown" >Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 18:50:13 -0800 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" > > >Kurt, > >To all. This can only be done if the engine is >injected. > >Rick > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 1:41 PM >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: Intercooler > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" > >Kurt S. wrote. But now you have to tell us how you >intercooled the turbo??? > >Kurt, I sourced a small intercooler off a wee Toyota >Starlet (New >Zealand - >might not be called that in US) and it took very >little modification to >fit. >I sits just under the upper cowl (std 0200 cowl) and >I have fabricated a > >f/glass air shoot to channel air from the front >inlet to it. John ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:05 PM PST US From: "Andrew Matthaey" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Trip to Florida - OT --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" I've driven the route from NH to FL several times...I take I-95 down to I-75. Usually stop in Altanta, then head down south again! Coming from Nashua, NH... Andrew do not archive >From: "Michael Logan" >To: >Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Trip to Florida - OT >Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 19:46:22 -0500 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" > >Atlanta is not anywhere near I-95, it is on I-75 and I-85 though. Where >are >you coming from? > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew >Matthaey >Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:58 PM >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: Trip to Florida - OT > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" > > >Hi all, > >I'll be driving down to Florida with my girlfriend at the end of the week. >The mission - Scout out several flight schools where I can finish up my >CFI/CFII/MEI and where she can finish up her >Commercial/Multi/Instrument...Would there be anybody along the I-95 >corridor, or down in Florida that we could overnight with? We're looking at >possibly staying in Atlanta, Jacksonville, Vero Beach...and? Not sure if >the > >schools will put us up! > >Well, just an idea...! I can be reached anytime off-group. > >Thanks! >Andrew >KF3 582 > >do not archive > > > >From: "Don Smythe" > >To: > >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 questions > >Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:09:33 -0500 > > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" > > > >Sounds good but don't let the possibility of a slipping gear box get too > >far > >back in your memory. I spent weeks and over $2500. on a $2.00 fix. The > >slipping "C" box is a known problem as the Rotax Bulletin points out. I > >wore the list out with my "surging" RPM problems. I think Bruce >Harrington > >hit on the box early but I ignored his valuable advice. Finally when I > >called Lockwood to describe my situation I wasn't half finished when he > >said, "YOUR GEARBOX IS SLIPPING! Actually, I managed to use the same > >gasket > >so the cost of repair wasn't even $2.00. > > > >Don Smythe > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Marco Menezes" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:10 AM > >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 questions > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes > > > > > > Thanks Don. I'm gonna try Bob Roberstson's "fix" first. If that >doesn't > >do > > > it, you've given me another possibility. > > > > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:23:13 PM PST US From: "debrun26@juno.com" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: New Member --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "debrun26@juno.com" Thanks... I'll give it a shot. Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Thanks... I'll give it a shot. Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:10 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 Spider Tank position --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Colin, FWIW, most 912 applications in Kitfoxes eliminate the Carb Heat Box. It was found to be unnecessary and the reduction of induction air resistance is a plus - more RPMs.. I understand that some regulating agencies insist that it be there. I'll check my picts later this evening. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Durey" Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:44 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 Spider Tank position > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey" > > Hi Guys! > > I've finally mounted the engine on my KF4 and am starting to fit bits to > it. Looking at the manual ('94 vintage), the pictures are both sparse and > fuzzy, so it makes it a bit hard to follow in places. > > I am currently working on re-mounting the spider tank. The instructions > say to mount it as far to the right as possible, and an obvious caveat to > this is the likely conflict with the carb-heat box which needs to be in > the same general vicinity. > > Does anyone have nice clear pictures of their installed / being installed > spider tank on a 912 that I can use for reference? Actually, pictures of > the whole engine install, or parts thereof, will be very usefull. > > (Don't forget that the pictures will need to be upside down for me to be > able to read them properly, 'cause Sydney is in the southern hemisphere > :-)) > > > Regards > > Colin Durey > Sydney > +61-418-677073 (M) > +61-2-945466162 (F) > > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:41 PM PST US From: DPREMGOOD@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Arizona attractions --> Kitfox-List message posted by: DPREMGOOD@aol.com Pima Museum in Tucson, really good. Doug Remoundos ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 05:53:03 PM PST US From: "John Anderson" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Intercooler and multiple ignition single plug --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" No, just one Michael, I have two ign trigger units in the dist and two matching coils, the h/t leads out of the coils go to the MSD unit. There is a picture on my system on sportflight, but if you want some more I can send. John From: "Michael Logan" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Intercooler and multiple ignition single plug --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michael Logan" John, Does that mean you have four MSD switchers? Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:26 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Intercooler --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" Two plug heads are available here in NZ - or were. My engine was originally EFI so I'm using the original injectors but have a Link Electrics ECU. I have dual primary ignition into a MSD switcher to single secondary. J. From: kurt schrader Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Intercooler --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader Well that explains it. I can imagine a backfire into a fuel ladened intercooler could be messy. Now how do I convert to injected, which I prefer, and a 2 plug head? $$$$$$ Kurt S. --- John Anderson wrote: >Yes, you sure are correct here Rick. John A. > >From: "wingsdown" >Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 18:50:13 -0800 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" > > >Kurt, > >To all. This can only be done if the engine is >injected. > >Rick > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 1:41 PM >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: Intercooler > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" > >Kurt S. wrote. But now you have to tell us how you >intercooled the turbo??? > >Kurt, I sourced a small intercooler off a wee Toyota >Starlet (New >Zealand - >might not be called that in US) and it took very >little modification to >fit. >I sits just under the upper cowl (std 0200 cowl) and >I have fabricated a > >f/glass air shoot to channel air from the front >inlet to it. John Check out the latest video @ http://xtra.co.nz/streaming ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:58 PM PST US From: Sid Hausding Subject: Kitfox-List: Avid/Kitfox --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Sid Hausding Randy, One of them is me, Sid from the Avid list...............but, maybe the whole kitfox list is interested too. Sid ------------------------------lurking Randy Daughenbaugh wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" Allan said: I tried to buy a kit for his elliptical wing plane but he was closing that down and doing something else. Alan, There are two of the four place Elipse's being built here in Rapid City. - EAA Chapter 39. I think that they are both about a year away from flying. The wings are a work of art. I promised someone on the list to try to keep them up to date on what is happening with these planes. (I have their name some where here.....) Randy . -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan & Linda Daniels Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Avid/Kitfox --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels Several years ago Dean Wilson was the guest speaker at our EAA 837 banquet. He was involved in helping one of our members with the Mifyter bi-plane. It was very interesting to say the least. I wish we had recorded it. It was amazing how many planes and projects he had been involved in. From ag spray planes to sea planes. I tried to buy a kit for his elliptical wing plane but he was closing that down and doing something else. We got to see drawings of the some of the projects and stories about the French adventurer and the planes he built for him, and about the TV show that was done with it. One of the things my wife and I like most about this experimental airplane stuff is the really good and amazing people we meet through it. "Why can't we all just get along?" --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 06:23:41 PM PST US From: AMuller589@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New Member --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AMuller589@aol.com fly before buy. I have 6000 hours an this is the most difficult airplane for landings i ever flew. ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:44 PM PST US From: "Barbara & Keith Schneider" Subject: Kitfox-List: LANDING GEAR QUESTION --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Barbara & Keith Schneider" Hello list I recently picked up a damaged Mod 4, which I am in the process of repairing. It suffered a hard landing which wiped out the bungee gear and gear fittings. My plan is to replace the gear with the Grove aluminum gear, and mount it in a similar manner as the gear on the Mod 6&7, forgoing the special brackets that mount to the stock gear and float attach points. What I am looking for is a measurement from the front face of the Grove gear leg to the aft ear of the forward float attach fitting. This will eliminate any guess work on my part as to properly locating the new gear. Hopefully one of you with a Mod 4 with Grove gear can get this measurement from your plane. Also if anyone has any experience with attaching the gear in the manner I described I would love to hear how this went, whether good or bad. On another note since I purchased this repairable Mod 4 , I am considering parting with my other two projects, a bent Mod 3 and a uncompleted Mod 4-1200 kit. Should there be any interest in either of these, feel free to contact me for details. Thanks, Keith Schneider, Waynesville , Ohio ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 09:39:42 PM PST US From: "Les Chambers" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Arizona attractions --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Les Chambers" Pima Air Museum at Tucson and be sure to take the bus tour over to Davis Monthan AFB, next door. Les ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Wahlquist" Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:22 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Arizona attractions > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave Wahlquist > > I will be traveling to the fine state of Arizona in April. > Do any list members have any favorite aviation related Museums etc. I > should be checking out while I am there? I know there are a few located in > AZ. If you have input please respond off list. > > Thanks > Dave > > do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 11:13:01 PM PST US From: "debrun26@juno.com" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New Member --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "debrun26@juno.com" 6000 hrs sounds like 60 years worth of flying. What model is your kitfox and does it matter for landing characteristics? That worries me cause it ruins my cheap way to get my pilots license. There is a kitfoxIV 912 UL with 100hrs total time for sale here for $32,000. Does this sound like a fare deal. Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! 6000 hrs sounds like 60 years worth of flying. What model is your kitfox and does it matter for landing characteristics? That worries me cause it ruins my cheap way to get my pilots license. There is a kitfoxIV 912UL with 100hrs total timefor sale here for $32,000. Does this sound like a fare deal. Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:09 PM PST US From: "Greaves" Subject: Kitfox-List: Bankruptcy... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Greaves" Hey all, Just got some paperwork in the mail regarding the SS bankruptcy. It is regarding the abandonment of items owed by SS to an unsecured creditor. He ordered a kit on July 05 and got screwed out of everything. Though I kinda deal with laws as a cop on the criminal law side, I don't know much about civil law. Anyone venture a guess at why one would abandon their rights to SS's "estate"? I assume it is a legal move in preparation for taking some action outside of the bankruptcy realm. I'm just glad I got most of my stuff before the filing (engine not included in the 'most'!!!) and that the McBean's have been so helpful to help us get the stuff we need. Regards, Wade