Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:06 AM - It Flew! (John Anderson)
2. 12:30 AM - Re: It Flew! (Don Pearsall)
3. 12:36 AM - SV: It Flew! (Michel Verheughe)
4. 03:40 AM - Re: It Flew! (Lynn Matteson)
5. 05:29 AM - SV: GPS Elevation Readings (Michel Verheughe)
6. 05:33 AM - Skystar Bankruptcy Hearing (paul nightingale)
7. 06:00 AM - Skystar (paul nightingale)
8. 06:33 AM - Skystar (Sid Hausding)
9. 07:01 AM - Re: It Flew! (Lowell Fitt)
10. 08:04 AM - Price of 912S (Don McIntosh)
11. 08:54 AM - Re: GPS Elevation Readings (Michael Gibbs)
12. 09:35 AM - Re: It Flew! (Matt Teixeira)
13. 10:31 AM - Re: SV: GPS Elevation Readings (Rex)
14. 10:39 AM - Re: Price of 912S (Randy Daughenbaugh)
15. 10:57 AM - Re: SV: GPS Elevation Readings (Randy Daughenbaugh)
16. 11:09 AM - Re: Re: GPS Elevation Readings (JeffFowler@aol.com)
17. 11:28 AM - Re: space command (Rex)
18. 12:04 PM - Re: Price of 912S (kitfoxpilot)
19. 12:10 PM - Re: It Flew! (John Anderson)
20. 12:20 PM - relative vs. absolute position WAS: GPS Elevation Readings (Michel Verheughe)
21. 12:26 PM - Re: Re: GPS Elevation Readings (Ted Palamarek)
22. 12:44 PM - Re: Price of 912S (Clint Bazzill)
23. 12:45 PM - Skyststar Bankruptcy Hearing (Don McIntosh)
24. 01:23 PM - Re: Price of 912S (Jeremy Casey)
25. 01:24 PM - Re: It Flew! (Lynn Matteson)
26. 01:32 PM - Re: Price of 912S (kitfoxpilot)
27. 01:39 PM - Change of Operating Limitations (Lynn Matteson)
28. 02:04 PM - test flights soon in n.c. (Kem Dunnebacke)
29. 03:01 PM - Re: Price of 912S (Clint Bazzill)
30. 03:56 PM - FW: Skyststar Bankruptcy Hearing (Don McIntosh)
31. 04:58 PM - Re: It Flew! (Guy Buchanan)
32. 05:37 PM - Re: Price of 912S (Mike Ford)
33. 11:35 PM - Re: It Flew! (John Anderson)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Well, another Kitfox left the ground today for the first time. My Series 5
TD ZK-RJA took to the air just 2 hours back and it flew like a DREAM!! I
had to do a second circuit as I was so over the world I didn't sort of take
it in...The engine being a self modified EA 81 Turbo EFI with own made PSRU
was the mysterious bit but it went well too. So big check over tomorrow.
John A.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
John,
Double congratulations to you man! That is great that you built the airplane
and the engine and PSRU! Tell us more about the plane and the flight. I bet
you are still up in the air, even though your feet are on the ground.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Anderson
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:05 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: It Flew!
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
<janderson412@hotmail.com>
Well, another Kitfox left the ground today for the first time. My Series 5
TD ZK-RJA took to the air just 2 hours back and it flew like a DREAM!! I
had to do a second circuit as I was so over the world I didn't sort of take
it in...The engine being a self modified EA 81 Turbo EFI with own made PSRU
was the mysterious bit but it went well too. So big check over tomorrow.
John A.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: John Anderson [janderson412@hotmail.com]
> Well, another Kitfox left the ground today for the first time. My Series 5
> TD ZK-RJA took to the air just 2 hours back and it flew like a DREAM!! I
Congratulations, John! Many happy flights with your new bird!
The funny thing is that, during the past three years I have been on this list,
I read about all the problems people have and yet, when they start flying, they
all experience a fantastic plane that flies like a dream. So I have decided
to let people believe that I am a brave pilot who flies a very difficult taildragger,
prone to ground loop and all kind of problems ... knowing that, in reality,
I have a kind, easy and very funny plane! But ... shtttt! Don't tell my
admirers! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Congrats, John! I was paid a visit by one of a couple, maybe three,
test pilots, so maybe I'm (the plane that is) not that far behind you.
Lynn
Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
On Thursday, March 16, 2006, at 03:05 AM, John Anderson wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
> <janderson412@hotmail.com>
>
> Well, another Kitfox left the ground today for the first time. My
> Series 5
> TD ZK-RJA took to the air just 2 hours back and it flew like a
> DREAM!! I
> had to do a second circuit as I was so over the world I didn't sort of
> take
> it in...The engine being a self modified EA 81 Turbo EFI with own made
> PSRU
> was the mysterious bit but it went well too. So big check over
> tomorrow.
> John A.
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| Subject: | GPS Elevation Readings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Paul Wilson [pwmac@sisna.com]
> Here is what I understand about GPS accuracy. Please correct me if I have
> it muddled.
Good report, Paul! You only forgot one thing: If I can find my position so accurately,
here in Norway, and for free, it is thanks to the US DoD and the American
tax-payers who pay and maintain the GPS system. Thank you, America!
> Jim, if you don't like the altitude error where you are located, just put a
> correction into your GPS. Works just fine until you get to a different look
> up location
Exactly. The program PocketFMS even let you adjust your known altitude from the
PDA. But then, if you land somewhere else ... It's a bit like the problem of
setting the altimeter to QNH and fly somewhere else, with a different barometric
pressure.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Skystar Bankruptcy Hearing |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "paul nightingale" <paul.nightingale@ntlworld.com>
Hi Everyone
I recieved my copy of the bankruptcy papers today here in the U.K. 17 sheets of
A4 paper mostly double sided with around 260 names of individuals and companys
thats owed stuff from skystar.
The hearing is on the 5th April at 9:30 am before judge Jim D. Pappas at the U.S.
Bankruptcy Court 550 W. Fort St, 5th Floor Boise, Idaho. has anyone else had
these documents and can anyone decode the technical talk so we know what it
all means
Paul Nightingale U.K.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "paul nightingale" <paul.nightingale@ntlworld.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: paul nightingale
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:33 PM
Subject: Skystar Bankruptcy Hearing
Hi Everyone
I recieved my copy of the bankruptcy papers today here in the U.K. 17 sheets of
A4 paper mostly double sided with around 260 names of individuals and companys
thats owed stuff from skystar.
The hearing is on the 5th April at 9:30 am before judge Jim D. Pappas at the U.S.
Bankruptcy Court 550 W. Fort St, 5th Floor Boise, Idaho. has anyone else had
these documents and can anyone decode the technical talk so we know what it
all means
Paul Nightingale U.K.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Sid Hausding <avidsid@yahoo.com>
You can make a claim via the mails, but US laws favor the personal appearance in
that judges court on that time and date of the individual, or his agent (hired
attorney or person[s]), to stake your claim against any monies or material
assets that they (Skystar) are admitting to. And even then the judge can rule
against or only allow a percentage of the 'claim' to be heard or allowed.......
Good luck, but unless the Skystar people[s] are upfront and honest you might
as well kiss your money or orders good bye.............that is what bankruptcy
is all about - getting out from under their obligations.
Sid
-------------------- I am not a lawyer or lay person, just have seen the results
in person before
Hi Everyone
I recieved my copy of the bankruptcy papers today here in the U.K. 17 sheets of
A4 paper mostly double sided with around 260 names of individuals and companys
thats owed stuff from skystar.
The hearing is on the 5th April at 9:30 am before judge Jim D. Pappas at the U.S.
Bankruptcy Court 550 W. Fort St, 5th Floor Boise, Idaho. has anyone else had
these documents and can anyone decode the technical talk so we know what it
all means
Paul Nightingale U.K.
"Why can't we all just get along?"
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Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Sounds Good, John. Congratulations.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:05 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: It Flew!
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
> <janderson412@hotmail.com>
>
> Well, another Kitfox left the ground today for the first time. My Series 5
> TD ZK-RJA took to the air just 2 hours back and it flew like a DREAM!! I
> had to do a second circuit as I was so over the world I didn't sort of
> take
> it in...The engine being a self modified EA 81 Turbo EFI with own made
> PSRU
> was the mysterious bit but it went well too. So big check over tomorrow.
> John A.
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don McIntosh" <don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
Did everyone notice in the latest KITPLANES that the price of the 912S is
now $24,000.00? WOW! They really DO love that engine. I first thought it
was a typo until I read the editors column and he mentioned it also with the
comment "What are they thinking?" I bet there are a lot of unhappy people
and manufacturers out there.
Don McIntosh
Contractors Northwest, Inc.
3731 Ramsey Road
Coeur d'Alene, ID 83815
t. 208-667-2456
f. 208-667-6388
don@contractorsnorthwest.com
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Elevation Readings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Paul sez:
>WAAS (Wide Area Augmentation System) involves additional satellites
>funded by the US government and is used to enhance coordinates
>including elevation. This enhancement as always depends on where
>these specialized satellites are located in the sky.
These "additional satellites" are actually on the ground! The
transmission picked up by your GPS receiver does come from the
satellites, of course. From the Garmin web site:
>How it Works
>
>WAAS consists of approximately 25 ground reference stations
>positioned across the United States that monitor GPS satellite data.
>Two master stations, located on either coast, collect data from the
>reference stations and create a GPS correction message. This
>correction accounts for GPS satellite orbit and clock drift plus
>signal delays caused by the atmosphere and ionosphere. The corrected
>differential message is then broadcast through one of two
>geostationary satellites, or satellites with a fixed position over
>the equator. The information is compatible with the basic GPS signal
>structure, which means any WAAS-enabled GPS receiver can read the
>signal.
>
>Who benefits from WAAS?
>
>Currently, WAAS satellite coverage is only available in North
>America. There are no ground reference stations in South America, so
>even though GPS users there can receive WAAS, the signal has not
>been corrected and thus would not improve the accuracy of their
>unit. For some users in the U.S., the position of the satellites
>over the equator makes it difficult to receive the signals when
>trees or mountains obstruct the view of the horizon. WAAS signal
>reception is ideal for open land and marine applications. WAAS
>provides extended coverage both inland and offshore compared to the
>land-based DGPS (differential GPS) system. Another benefit of WAAS
>is that it does not require additional receiving equipment, while
>DGPS does.
>Other governments are developing similar satellite-based
>differential systems. In Asia, it's the Japanese Multi-Functional
>Satellite Augmentation System (MSAS), while Europe has the Euro
>Geostationary Navigation Overlay Service (EGNOS). Eventually, GPS
>users around the world will have access to precise position data
>using these and other compatible systems.
Mike G.
N728KF
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Matt Teixeira" <mteixeira@wmlylesco.com>
John
Congratulations! What a wonderful accomplishment to build the engine,
PSRU, and airframe and have a successful first flight.
Please tell us more about your plane and your firewall forward efforts.
Matt K4-1200
Fresno, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Anderson
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:05 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: It Flew!
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
<janderson412@hotmail.com>
Well, another Kitfox left the ground today for the first time. My Series
5
TD ZK-RJA took to the air just 2 hours back and it flew like a DREAM!!
I
had to do a second circuit as I was so over the world I didn't sort of
take
it in...The engine being a self modified EA 81 Turbo EFI with own made
PSRU
was the mysterious bit but it went well too. So big check over tomorrow.
John A.
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Elevation Readings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net>
As _ONE_ U.S. taxpayer, I can say; "You're welcome".
Rex
Colorado - near (60 miles) the US Space Command HQ and control center
for GPS
(but I'm currently in Orlando, FL :-) )
do not archive
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>Good report, Paul! You only forgot one thing: If I can find my position so accurately,
here in Norway, and for free, it is thanks to the US DoD and the American
tax-payers who pay and maintain the GPS system. Thank you, America!
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Don,
I thought it was a typo when I first saw it.
I love my 912S, but I would make a different choice at this point. -
entirely because of that price.
Randy
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McIntosh
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:00 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Price of 912S
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don McIntosh"
<don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
Did everyone notice in the latest KITPLANES that the price of the 912S is
now $24,000.00? WOW! They really DO love that engine. I first thought it
was a typo until I read the editors column and he mentioned it also with the
comment "What are they thinking?" I bet there are a lot of unhappy people
and manufacturers out there.
Don McIntosh
Contractors Northwest, Inc.
3731 Ramsey Road
Coeur d'Alene, ID 83815
t. 208-667-2456
f. 208-667-6388
don@contractorsnorthwest.com
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| Subject: | GPS Elevation Readings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Rex,
Where in Colorado is the US Space Commmand HQ?
Randy
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: SV: Kitfox-List: GPS Elevation Readings
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net>
As _ONE_ U.S. taxpayer, I can say; "You're welcome".
Rex
Colorado - near (60 miles) the US Space Command HQ and control center
for GPS
(but I'm currently in Orlando, FL :-) )
do not archive
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>Good report, Paul! You only forgot one thing: If I can find my position so
accurately, here in Norway, and for free, it is thanks to the US DoD and the
American tax-payers who pay and maintain the GPS system. Thank you, America!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Elevation Readings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: JeffFowler@aol.com
Hello folks,
I've been reading this GPS string with interest since it started and
there's an error question that has come up. I'd like to inform you of a couple
of
things I've viewed on TV about it.
1. They are measuring the shift of the Earth's plates with it for earthquake
studies. This is measuring much less change than 10 meters, and that is also
in altitude as the earth's plates rise and fall at their edges and this is a
factor they look at.
2. Did you know they make a remote control for R/C airplanes that can be
programed using GPS to fly a path? this thing uses altitude too.
Just some things I happened on for you to think about in regard to this
thread.
Jeff Fowler
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| Subject: | Re: space command |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net>
Peterson AFB and Schriever AFB, Colorado Springs
more details: *
http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/agency/afspc.htm*
http://www.peterson.af.mil/
do not archive
Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
>Rex,
>Where in Colorado is the US Space Commmand HQ?
>
>Randy
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Price of 912S |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxpilot" <kitfoxpilot@comcast.net>
Don,
That's about $10,000 more than I paid for my 912S last 3 months ago. Has to
be a typo.
Scott Miller
Kitfox Sport (S7)
Seattle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don McIntosh" <don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:59 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Price of 912S
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don McIntosh"
<don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
>
> Did everyone notice in the latest KITPLANES that the price of the 912S is
> now $24,000.00? WOW! They really DO love that engine. I first thought it
> was a typo until I read the editors column and he mentioned it also with
the
> comment "What are they thinking?" I bet there are a lot of unhappy people
> and manufacturers out there.
>
>
> Don McIntosh
>
> Contractors Northwest, Inc.
>
> 3731 Ramsey Road
>
> Coeur d'Alene, ID 83815
>
> t. 208-667-2456
>
> f. 208-667-6388
>
> don@contractorsnorthwest.com
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Keep at it Lynn, I tell you it's a wonderful feeling....John
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: It Flew!
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Congrats, John! I was paid a visit by one of a couple, maybe three,
test pilots, so maybe I'm (the plane that is) not that far behind you.
Lynn
Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
On Thursday, March 16, 2006, at 03:05 AM, John Anderson wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
><janderson412@hotmail.com>
>
>Well, another Kitfox left the ground today for the first time. My
>Series 5
>TD ZK-RJA took to the air just 2 hours back and it flew like a
>DREAM!! I
>had to do a second circuit as I was so over the world I didn't sort of
>take
>it in...The engine being a self modified EA 81 Turbo EFI with own made
>PSRU
>was the mysterious bit but it went well too. So big check over
>tomorrow.
>John A.
Shop til you drop at XtraMSN Shopping http://shopping.xtramsn.co.nz/home/
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| Subject: | relative vs. absolute position WAS: GPS Elevation Readings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Mar 16, 2006, at 8:08 PM, JeffFowler@aol.com wrote:
> They are measuring the shift of the Earth's plates with it for
> earthquake
> studies.
Amazing, isn't it, Jeff?
Yet we have to differentiate between absolute and relative positioning.
Until the satellites came to exist, maps were drawn from positions
derived solely from a sextant and a chronometer. Each country has its
own co-ordinates standard. With the GPS came the WGS-84 standard. To
adapt to satellite navigation, maritime charts have now a correction
table, sometimes up to 200 yards offset - as I experienced here, in
Norway.
Before the GPS, I sailed with a Decca receiver, a British technology
invented for the D-day, in 1944. While not being too accurate in
absolute position (i.e. the latitude and longitude) it was accurate
within a few yards to repetition (relative position), which enabled me
e.g. to put fishing pots at sea, then come back the day later, and pick
them up, from my previously plotted position, even in the thickest fog.
Likewise, if you use a reference point, the GPS can put you within
maybe less than a yard from where you were previously. This technology
is used e.g. by the Norwegian snow ploughs working in the mountains,
keeping the passes between the east and west country open at all time.
But they have first to drive all the way, on a nice day, plot their
track, and come back when it snows and everything is whited out. Note
that they also use differential GPS, i.e. a correction from a known
place is constantly transmitted.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Elevation Readings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
Mike
Mike your statement -- (These "additional satellite" are actually on the
ground!) -- is probably confusing for some. A better clarification may be
that, the GPS system is monitored by 25 ground systems. The information
gleamed on the ground is then forwarded to two synchronous satellites which
in turn with the ground monitor stations create a correction message. Your
WAAS enabled GPS then receives and applies this correction factor to the
data it receives from the orbiting constellation of GPS satellites. Ergo,
now you have very precise nav info in areas where there are ground monitors
and coverage by the two WAAS synchronous satellites.
Ted Palamarek
Edmonton, Ab
________________SNIP----------------------
These "additional satellites" are actually on the ground! The
transmission picked up by your GPS receiver does come from the
satellites, of course. From the Garmin web site:
>How it Works
>
>WAAS consists of approximately 25 ground reference stations
>positioned across the United States that monitor GPS satellite data.
>Two master stations, located on either coast, collect data from the
>reference stations and create a GPS correction message. This
>correction accounts for GPS satellite orbit and clock drift plus
>signal delays caused by the atmosphere and ionosphere. The corrected
>differential message is then broadcast through one of two
>geostationary satellites, or satellites with a fixed position over
>the equator. The information is compatible with the basic GPS signal
>structure, which means any WAAS-enabled GPS receiver can read the
>signal.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Price of 912S |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
Is that a 912S or a 912ULS, big difference Clint
From: "kitfoxpilot" <kitfoxpilot@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Price of 912S
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxpilot" <kitfoxpilot@comcast.net>
Don,
That's about $10,000 more than I paid for my 912S last 3 months ago. Has to
be a typo.
Scott Miller
Kitfox Sport (S7)
Seattle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don McIntosh" <don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:59 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Price of 912S
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don McIntosh"
<don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
>
> Did everyone notice in the latest KITPLANES that the price of the 912S is
> now $24,000.00? WOW! They really DO love that engine. I first thought it
> was a typo until I read the editors column and he mentioned it also with
the
> comment "What are they thinking?" I bet there are a lot of unhappy people
> and manufacturers out there.
>
>
>
> Don McIntosh
>
> Contractors Northwest, Inc.
>
> 3731 Ramsey Road
>
> Coeur d'Alene, ID 83815
>
> t. 208-667-2456
>
> f. 208-667-6388
>
> don@contractorsnorthwest.com
>
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| Subject: | Skyststar Bankruptcy Hearing |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don McIntosh" <don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
My take on the last batch of paper I got (which sounds like what Paul got)
is that someone went in and found that his kit was almost ready to ship,
with his name on parts and boxes. He is saying that since he paid the money
(thank goodness he hadn't paid them all of the almost $70,000 he had agreed
to buy from them!), he has the right to the parts and not the bankruptcy
court. So he is therefore asking for the court to release the parts to him
instead of including them in Skystar's fire sale. I could be wrong but this
is what it looked like to me in "nonlawyerspeak" terms. Just for interest
sake, there are almost 170 personal (builders) names on the list.
Don McIntosh
Contractors Northwest, Inc.
3731 Ramsey Road
Coeur d'Alene, ID 83815
t. 208-667-2456
f. 208-667-6388
don@contractorsnorthwest.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
Lockwood lists the 80hp at $12793 the 100hp at $14354 and the 914 115hp
turbo at $24300.
Jeremy
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
I'll bet it is, John....I just got word from my flight instructor that
"1 or 2 more lessons and you'll be ready to start taildragger
transition"...the words I've been waiting to hear! It won't be long
now.
Lynn
On Thursday, March 16, 2006, at 03:09 PM, John Anderson wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
> <janderson412@hotmail.com>
>
> Keep at it Lynn, I tell you it's a wonderful feeling....John
>
>
> From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: It Flew!
> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:34:49 -0500
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> Congrats, John! I was paid a visit by one of a couple, maybe three,
> test pilots, so maybe I'm (the plane that is) not that far behind you.
>
> Lynn
> Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: Price of 912S |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxpilot" <kitfoxpilot@comcast.net>
Mine is the 912ULS, That would be a big differance between the 912S though.
Do they actually sell any 912S's at that price?
Scott Miller
Kitfox Sport (S7)
Seattle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Price of 912S
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill"
<clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
>
> Is that a 912S or a 912ULS, big difference Clint
>
>
> From: "kitfoxpilot" <kitfoxpilot@comcast.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Price of 912S
> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:02:22 -0800
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxpilot" <kitfoxpilot@comcast.net>
>
> Don,
>
> That's about $10,000 more than I paid for my 912S last 3 months ago. Has
to
> be a typo.
>
> Scott Miller
> Kitfox Sport (S7)
> Seattle
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don McIntosh" <don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:59 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Price of 912S
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don McIntosh"
> <don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
> >
> > Did everyone notice in the latest KITPLANES that the price of the 912S
is
> > now $24,000.00? WOW! They really DO love that engine. I first thought
it
> > was a typo until I read the editors column and he mentioned it also
with
> the
> > comment "What are they thinking?" I bet there are a lot of unhappy
people
> > and manufacturers out there.
> >
> >
> >
> > Don McIntosh
> >
> > Contractors Northwest, Inc.
> >
> > 3731 Ramsey Road
> >
> > Coeur d'Alene, ID 83815
> >
> > t. 208-667-2456
> >
> > f. 208-667-6388
> >
> > don@contractorsnorthwest.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Change of Operating Limitations |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
I got to looking at the 25-NM circle that was allowed me, based on
where my plane is located, and now realize that it puts me under part
of the Mode C veil of Detroit Metro Airport. This would have deprived
me of 19% of the geographical area in which I could test fly. Not only
that, but it meant that the airport at which I am getting flight
lessons would have been 10 miles out of the circle. I called the FAA,
and they said that I could change the "base of operations" to a
different location, which would get rid of a lot of the Mode C veil,
and allow me to move further to the west, enabling me and my test pilot
to get more time together, as well as have one more fuel stop, should
the need occur. All I had to do was outline the request, citing the
need for safety, less congestion, and greater access for all concerned
(me and the test pilot), and send it in. So far, I'm pretty impressed
with those that I've dealt with at the local FAA.
Lynn
Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | test flights soon in n.c. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kem Dunnebacke" <jboatm16@netzero.com>
is there anyone sorta close to new bern n.c to share a little air time in same
type befor test flights?my speedster is very close for it frist flights?more then
glad to pay for fuel? thanks kem dunnebacke n492cl
--------
kitfox IV PLAY Speedster H-30
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=22210#22210
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| Subject: | Re: Price of 912S |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
If a 912 series engine is going into a certified AC then the certified
engine is thousands more. Clint
From: "kitfoxpilot" <kitfoxpilot@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Price of 912S
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxpilot" <kitfoxpilot@comcast.net>
Mine is the 912ULS, That would be a big differance between the 912S though.
Do they actually sell any 912S's at that price?
Scott Miller
Kitfox Sport (S7)
Seattle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Price of 912S
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill"
<clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
>
> Is that a 912S or a 912ULS, big difference Clint
>
>
> From: "kitfoxpilot" <kitfoxpilot@comcast.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Price of 912S
> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:02:22 -0800
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxpilot"
<kitfoxpilot@comcast.net>
>
> Don,
>
> That's about $10,000 more than I paid for my 912S last 3 months ago. Has
to
> be a typo.
>
> Scott Miller
> Kitfox Sport (S7)
> Seattle
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don McIntosh" <don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:59 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Price of 912S
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don McIntosh"
> <don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
> >
> > Did everyone notice in the latest KITPLANES that the price of the 912S
is
> > now $24,000.00? WOW! They really DO love that engine. I first thought
it
> > was a typo until I read the editors column and he mentioned it also
with
> the
> > comment "What are they thinking?" I bet there are a lot of unhappy
people
> > and manufacturers out there.
> >
> >
> >
> > Don McIntosh
> >
> > Contractors Northwest, Inc.
> >
> > 3731 Ramsey Road
> >
> > Coeur d'Alene, ID 83815
> >
> > t. 208-667-2456
> >
> > f. 208-667-6388
> >
> > don@contractorsnorthwest.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | FW: Skyststar Bankruptcy Hearing |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don McIntosh" <don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
_____
From: Don McIntosh [mailto:don@contractorsnorthwest.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Skyststar Bankruptcy Hearing
My take on the last batch of paper I got (which sounds like what Paul got)
is that someone went in and found that his kit was almost ready to ship,
with his name on parts and boxes. He is saying that since he paid the money
(thank goodness he hadn't paid them all of the almost $70,000 he had agreed
to buy from them!), he has the right to the parts and not the bankruptcy
court. So he is therefore asking for the court to release the parts to him
instead of including them in Skystar's fire sale. I could be wrong but this
is what it looked like to me in "nonlawyerspeak" terms. Just for interest
sake, there are almost 170 personal (builders) names on the list.
Don McIntosh
Contractors Northwest, Inc.
3731 Ramsey Road
Coeur d'Alene, ID 83815
t. 208-667-2456
f. 208-667-6388
don@contractorsnorthwest.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 12:05 AM 3/16/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
>
>Well, another Kitfox left the ground today for the first time.
Congratulations John. I'm especially impressed you flew it yourself and
behind your own PSRU! Brave man. Confident man.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Price of 912S |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Ford <fordm2003@yahoo.com>
I am pretty sure the 912S (Certificated) engines are required for Special Light
Sport Aircraft.
kitfoxpilot <kitfoxpilot@comcast.net> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by:
"kitfoxpilot"
Mine is the 912ULS, That would be a big differance between the 912S though.
Do they actually sell any 912S's at that price?
Scott Miller
Kitfox Sport (S7)
Seattle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clint Bazzill"
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Price of 912S
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill"
>
> Is that a 912S or a 912ULS, big difference Clint
>
>
> From: "kitfoxpilot"
> To:
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Price of 912S
> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:02:22 -0800
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxpilot"
>
> Don,
>
> That's about $10,000 more than I paid for my 912S last 3 months ago. Has
to
> be a typo.
>
> Scott Miller
> Kitfox Sport (S7)
> Seattle
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don McIntosh"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:59 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Price of 912S
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don McIntosh"
>
> >
> > Did everyone notice in the latest KITPLANES that the price of the 912S
is
> > now $24,000.00? WOW! They really DO love that engine. I first thought
it
> > was a typo until I read the editors column and he mentioned it also
with
> the
> > comment "What are they thinking?" I bet there are a lot of unhappy
people
> > and manufacturers out there.
> >
> >
> >
> > Don McIntosh
> >
> > Contractors Northwest, Inc.
> >
> > 3731 Ramsey Road
> >
> > Coeur d'Alene, ID 83815
> >
> > t. 208-667-2456
> >
> > f. 208-667-6388
> >
> > don@contractorsnorthwest.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
I started out as a crop duster before I progressed (some might question
progress) onto helis so I got the tail dragger thing sorted and I found the
Fox a wee darling compaired to some. Mind you, it's early days ha ha, it'll
bite me for sure sooner or later. You are in for some real fun Lynn.John
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: It Flew!
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
I'll bet it is, John....I just got word from my flight instructor that
"1 or 2 more lessons and you'll be ready to start taildragger
transition"...the words I've been waiting to hear! It won't be long
now.
Lynn
On Thursday, March 16, 2006, at 03:09 PM, John Anderson wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
><janderson412@hotmail.com>
>
>Keep at it Lynn, I tell you it's a wonderful feeling....John
>
>
>From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: It Flew!
>Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:34:49 -0500
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
>Congrats, John! I was paid a visit by one of a couple, maybe three,
>test pilots, so maybe I'm (the plane that is) not that far behind you.
>
>Lynn
>Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
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