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1. 04:46 AM - Re: First impressions of a Kitfox III, and a few questions. (kurt schrader)
2. 05:47 AM - Fabric over Powdercoating (Kathy & Dick Toomey)
3. 06:00 AM - Re: Fabric over Powdercoating (flier)
4. 07:55 AM - Re: 912 needle valves (kitfoxmike)
5. 08:01 AM - Re: First impressions of a Kitfox III, and a few questions. (kitfoxmike)
6. 02:46 PM - sportflight web site (Don Smythe)
7. 03:04 PM - Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes Magazine (Cory Emberson)
8. 03:07 PM - Re: sportflight web site (Don Pearsall)
9. 03:53 PM - Re: Fabric over Powdercoating (Dave and Diane)
10. 04:40 PM - Hackers (Graeme Toft)
11. 04:40 PM - Hackers (Graeme Toft)
12. 04:40 PM - Hackers (Graeme Toft)
13. 04:41 PM - Hackers (Graeme Toft)
14. 06:12 PM - Model II leading edge (James C. Hartford)
15. 06:13 PM - !!DO NOT RESPOND TO THE EMAIL FROM YASIR SABRI!! (Don Pearsall)
16. 06:13 PM - Re: sportflight web site (Don Smythe)
17. 06:16 PM - Re: Hackers (Don Smythe)
18. 06:29 PM - Re: Hackers (Les Chambers)
19. 07:05 PM - Re: Model II leading edge (Jerry Liles)
20. 07:21 PM - Re: Model II leading edge (James C. Hartford)
21. 07:27 PM - Re: Model II leading edge (Jerry Liles)
22. 07:32 PM - Atlanta Area Live with your Airplane (Mark Sorenson)
23. 08:40 PM - Re: Hackers (Graeme Toft)
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| Subject: | Re: First impressions of a Kitfox III, and a few questions. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Hi Michael,
Congrats on your plane! There is no bad kitfox, just
weather too bad to fly it and your are gonna' want to
do that often. :-)
On your radio, first check the headset, power and
antenna connections. A bad ground can make an awful
noise. Next try it without the engine running. If it
is fine then, but noisy with the engine on, we can
narrow that down on the list pretty fast. If it is
noisy even with the engine off, you know it is the
radio or its connections.
That is a start for you,
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- Michael Laundy <mikelaundy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
...............
> Had major problems with the radio (brand new ICOM
> IC A24E). Very loud interference almost impossible
> to hear ground stations, and they told me after
> landing my transmissions were unreadable just a very
> loud buzz every time I transmitted. I am not sure if
> it is aircraft interference or a fault on the
> radio. has anyone else had this problem?
.............
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| Subject: | Fabric over Powdercoating |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kathy & Dick Toomey" <llltoome@gvtel.com>
I a have a factory powdercoated fuselage ready to cover. Can the fabric be attached
with Polytac directly to the powdercoated surface or does a coat of epoxy
primer applied first?
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| Subject: | Fabric over Powdercoating |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
Scotchbrite the powder coat to scuff the sheen and stick right to it.
Regards,
Ted
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kathy & Dick
Toomey
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:45 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fabric over Powdercoating
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kathy & Dick Toomey"
<llltoome@gvtel.com>
I a have a factory powdercoated fuselage ready to cover. Can the fabric be
attached with Polytac directly to the powdercoated surface or does a coat of
epoxy primer applied first?
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| Subject: | Re: 912 needle valves |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com>
when you turn the carbs over align the arms level to the casting or gasket for
the bowl. then bend them up slightly, maybe 32nd of an inch to the lean side.
this is where the end of the arms will be higher than the start of the arms.
hope this makes sense.
--------
kitfoxmike
kitfox4 1200 912ul speedster
http://www.frappr.com/kitfoxmike
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=24141#24141
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| Subject: | Re: First impressions of a Kitfox III, and a few questions. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com>
Is that the portable radio? if so, what are you using for an entenna? If it's
the portable radio I use the same one for a secondary, but I have yet to use it
in the airplane, I have it set up to just use the units own entenna. If you
are using an external entenna, you might have the entenna hooked up wrong. If
your using the units entenna, you may need to hook up an external.
--------
kitfoxmike
kitfox4 1200 912ul speedster
http://www.frappr.com/kitfoxmike
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=24144#24144
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| Subject: | sportflight web site |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
After I noticed the apparent hacking of the sportflight web site, I received an
email "through" the kitfox list saying thanks for your response. The email seemed
to be from some Arab associated group. Since then, I have received nothing
from the Kitfox list. Have we been violated????
Don Smythe
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| Subject: | Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes Magazine |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Cory Emberson <bootless@earthlink.net>
Hello all,
I would like to hear from you if you're a builder who has successfully
installed and flown an alternative engine in your plane. I'm compiling a
builder's roundup for Kitplanes magazine, and am looking for an
installation that's flown for a minimum of 300 hours, and is currently
flying. Also, we will not address any rotary engines, since a separate
article will cover those engines.
For the builders that we profile, the magazine will also be able to pay
you $100 for the write-up. I'll be at Sun 'n Fun until late morning on
Friday (April 7), so if you fly in, I'd be happy to take the photos
there. If not, we would also need at least 2-3 good photos, including a
close-up of the engine and an overall shot of the aircraft. Additional
photos would be great, and all photos will be returned. If you have
digital photos, it is very important that they be high-resolution, at
least 300 dpi. I have a list of specific areas to address if you'd like
to participate, but we can handle that off-line. Please feel free to
contact me off-line at: bootless (at) earthlink (dot) net (my despammed
email address).
Thank you so much!
best,
Cory Emberson
Contributing Editor
Kitplanes Magazine
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| Subject: | sportflight web site |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Don, I did not get such a message through the KF list and do not see it on
the archive site. Did it have a Matronics return address?
Forward it to me so I can see it.
Also, the Matronics list is separate from the Sportflight site, and
Sportflight does not have a list of members on it.
Don Pearsall
Sound Appraisal
Seattle, WA USA
425-392.4627
FAX 425-557-0107
donpearsall@comcast.net
http://www.soundappraisal.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Smythe
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 2:42 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: sportflight web site
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
After I noticed the apparent hacking of the sportflight web site, I received
an email "through" the kitfox list saying thanks for your response. The
email seemed to be from some Arab associated group. Since then, I have
received nothing from the Kitfox list. Have we been violated????
Don Smythe
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| Subject: | Re: Fabric over Powdercoating |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave and Diane <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
Kathy & Dick,
No need to do epoxy over the powder coat. All you need to do is rough up the
surface with with scotchbrite so there is some "tooth" for the polytak to
grab onto. Places you especially want to be real sure are scuffed with
scotchbrite are any leading edge, like the first tube on the bottom which the
fabric is rolled over and the front of the rudder, wings, stab & elev. Be
sure to solvent wash very well after scotchbrite before doing the polytak. (I
can't claim to be the author of this advice, this is what a poly fiber
distributor told me who re-covers a lot of planes including powdercoated
airframes)
Dave S
St Paul, MN
On Saturday 25 March 2006 7:44 am, Kathy & Dick Toomey wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kathy & Dick Toomey"
> <llltoome@gvtel.com>
>
> I a have a factory powdercoated fuselage ready to cover. Can the fabric be
> attached with Polytac directly to the powdercoated surface or does a coat
> of epoxy primer applied first?
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
I have just recieved an email with a Subject Line - Sportflight site (verification)
and signed Yasir Sabri. It is recommending a pop up blocker and gives a link
to access it from. If you get one of these DO NOT OPEN IT. I'll garrauntee
your computer goes into melt down if you do. Strange how some people get their
kicks isnt it.
Cheers
Graeme
Do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
I have just received an email with a Subject Line - Sportflight site (verification)
and signed Yasir Sabri. It is recommending a pop up blocker and gives a link
to access it from. If you get one of these DO NOT OPEN IT. I'll guarantee
your computer goes into melt down if you do. Strange how some people get their
kicks isn't it.
Cheers
Graeme
Do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
I have just received an email with a Subject Line - Sportflight site (verification)
and signed Yasir Sabri. It is recommending a pop up blocker and gives a link
to access it from. If you get one of these DO NOT OPEN IT. I'll guarantee
your computer goes into melt down if you do. Strange how some people get their
kicks isn't it.
Cheers
Graeme
Do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
I have just received an email with a Subject Line - Sportflight site (verification)
and signed Yasir Sabri. It is recommending a pop up blocker and gives a link
to access it from. If you get one of these DO NOT OPEN IT. I'll guarantee
your computer goes into melt down if you do. Strange how some people get their
kicks isn't it.
Cheers
Graeme
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Model II leading edge |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "James C. Hartford" <jhartford@hartford-engineering.com>
I just ran into another point of confusion. I purchased the Fuselage and
wing Kit from Denny's in 1990, but never was able to get to work on it
until 2000. Purchased the remainder of the kits at that time, but again
had to differ work on the plane.
Sky Star provided the products necessary to complete kit based on using
the original wing and filled in with Model IV parts where appropriate. I
am working on the wings and can find no reference to the 24019 leading
edge in the Model II manual.
The packing list for both the original and 2000 purchase show no
reference to the leading edges. The Wing sections on the Model II and
the Model IV are quite different and I am not sure that I should be
installing the leading edge on the Model II wing.
Can any of you provide some experience on this subject. I would like to
confirm the installation of the leading edge before moving forward.
Thanks
Jim Hartford
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| Subject: | !!DO NOT RESPOND TO THE EMAIL FROM YASIR SABRI!! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
It looks like many list members got the same email. I note that the link
will run a php script of the very same type that hacked into the Sportflight
web site. DO NOT click the link. I do not know exactly what it does, but it
looks like this list is under attack from people wanting to wreak havoc on
all our members. A PHP script can be used to install a Trojan or virus on
your computer.
Again, please do not click on any link you do not know, or respond to
messages like this. Just delete them. Keep your anti-virus and anti-spyware
software updated.
Sorry for the hassle.
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graeme Toft
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:41 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Hackers
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
I have just received an email with a Subject Line - Sportflight site
(verification) and signed Yasir Sabri. It is recommending a pop up blocker
and gives a link to access it from. If you get one of these DO NOT OPEN IT.
I'll guarantee your computer goes into melt down if you do. Strange how some
people get their kicks isn't it.
Cheers
Graeme
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: sportflight web site |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Don P.,
I have deleted that message but, Graeme's post sounds similar to what I
saw. The email I received seemed to come directly to me so, would not have
shown up on the archive list.. Strange
Don S.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:06 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: sportflight web site
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
> <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
> Don, I did not get such a message through the KF list and do not see it on
> the archive site. Did it have a Matronics return address?
> Forward it to me so I can see it.
>
> Also, the Matronics list is separate from the Sportflight site, and
> Sportflight does not have a list of members on it.
>
> Don Pearsall
> Sound Appraisal
> Seattle, WA USA
> 425-392.4627
> FAX 425-557-0107
> donpearsall@comcast.net
> http://www.soundappraisal.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Smythe
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 2:42 PM
> To: Kitfox List
> Subject: Kitfox-List: sportflight web site
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
>
> After I noticed the apparent hacking of the sportflight web site, I
> received
> an email "through" the kitfox list saying thanks for your response. The
> email seemed to be from some Arab associated group. Since then, I have
> received nothing from the Kitfox list. Have we been violated????
>
> Don Smythe
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Graeme,
Your post came through 4 times. Was that on purpose???. I received a
similar post from this Sabri person. Getting worried????
Don Smythe.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:38 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Hackers
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> I have just recieved an email with a Subject Line - Sportflight site
> (verification) and signed Yasir Sabri. It is recommending a pop up blocker
> and gives a link to access it from. If you get one of these DO NOT OPEN
> IT. I'll garrauntee your computer goes into melt down if you do. Strange
> how some people get their kicks isnt it.
>
> Cheers
> Graeme
> Do not archive
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Les Chambers" <l_chambers@ckt.net>
Don,
Does your correspondence with Yasir qualify for NSA surveilance?
Les
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 8:16 PM
Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: Kitfox-List: Hackers
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
>
> Graeme,
> Your post came through 4 times. Was that on purpose???. I received a
> similar post from this Sabri person. Getting worried????
>
> Don Smythe.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:38 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Hackers
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>>
>> I have just recieved an email with a Subject Line - Sportflight site
>> (verification) and signed Yasir Sabri. It is recommending a pop up
>> blocker
>> and gives a link to access it from. If you get one of these DO NOT OPEN
>> IT. I'll garrauntee your computer goes into melt down if you do. Strange
>> how some people get their kicks isnt it.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Graeme
>> Do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Model II leading edge |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
The Model II had an undercamber wing design by Dean Wilson. It used the
front spar as the leading edge and did not require the leading edge
cuff. The cuff was for the Model IV and later wings that used a new
design airfoil without the undercamber. The undercambered wing is an
excellent STOL airfoil and nicely complements the lightweight Model II.
Jerry Liles
James C. Hartford wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "James C. Hartford" <jhartford@hartford-engineering.com>
>
>I just ran into another point of confusion. I purchased the Fuselage and
>wing Kit from Denny's in 1990, but never was able to get to work on it
>until 2000. Purchased the remainder of the kits at that time, but again
>had to differ work on the plane.
>
>Sky Star provided the products necessary to complete kit based on using
>the original wing and filled in with Model IV parts where appropriate. I
>am working on the wings and can find no reference to the 24019 leading
>edge in the Model II manual.
>
>The packing list for both the original and 2000 purchase show no
>reference to the leading edges. The Wing sections on the Model II and
>the Model IV are quite different and I am not sure that I should be
>installing the leading edge on the Model II wing.
>
>Can any of you provide some experience on this subject. I would like to
>confirm the installation of the leading edge before moving forward.
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Jim Hartford
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Model II leading edge |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "James C. Hartford" <jhartford@hartford-engineering.com>
Thanks Jerry this is what I suspected but it is good to get a
conformation.
Jim H
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Liles
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Model II leading edge
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
The Model II had an undercamber wing design by Dean Wilson. It used the
front spar as the leading edge and did not require the leading edge
cuff. The cuff was for the Model IV and later wings that used a new
design airfoil without the undercamber. The undercambered wing is an
excellent STOL airfoil and nicely complements the lightweight Model II.
Jerry Liles
James C. Hartford wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "James C. Hartford"
<jhartford@hartford-engineering.com>
>
>I just ran into another point of confusion. I purchased the Fuselage
and
>wing Kit from Denny's in 1990, but never was able to get to work on it
>until 2000. Purchased the remainder of the kits at that time, but again
>had to differ work on the plane.
>
>Sky Star provided the products necessary to complete kit based on using
>the original wing and filled in with Model IV parts where appropriate.
I
>am working on the wings and can find no reference to the 24019 leading
>edge in the Model II manual.
>
>The packing list for both the original and 2000 purchase show no
>reference to the leading edges. The Wing sections on the Model II and
>the Model IV are quite different and I am not sure that I should be
>installing the leading edge on the Model II wing.
>
>Can any of you provide some experience on this subject. I would like to
>confirm the installation of the leading edge before moving forward.
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Jim Hartford
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Model II leading edge |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
Glad I could help.
James C. Hartford wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "James C. Hartford" <jhartford@hartford-engineering.com>
>
>Thanks Jerry this is what I suspected but it is good to get a
>conformation.
>
>Jim H
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Liles
>Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:04 PM
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Model II leading edge
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
>
>The Model II had an undercamber wing design by Dean Wilson. It used the
>
>front spar as the leading edge and did not require the leading edge
>cuff. The cuff was for the Model IV and later wings that used a new
>design airfoil without the undercamber. The undercambered wing is an
>excellent STOL airfoil and nicely complements the lightweight Model II.
>
>Jerry Liles
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>James C. Hartford wrote:
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| Subject: | Atlanta Area Live with your Airplane |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark Sorenson <marksorenson@sprintpcs.com>
For those of you interested in LIVING with YOUR AIRPLANE. There are two properties for sale at Big T airport (64GA) just 6 miles from Tarra Field's aerobatic box. Both properties have residnetial accomodations attached to hangars with over 3000 sq ft of hangar space and over 2400 sq ft of living area in the homes. One property has a joint 1000 gal fuel tank. Both properties are located ON THE RUNWAY. One property is asking $399,900 and the other is asking $385,000. These are not currently listed with MLS so save big now on commission with dealing directly with the owners. Currently 4 other IAC members here on the field and we all fly as often as possible critiquing each other. Also we are only a 11 minute drive from Aircraft Spruce and Specialties in Peachtree City, GA. For more information and owner contact info, please contact me at 678-463-5944 or at marksorenson@sprintpcs.com Look up the airport at www.airnav.com or at http://skyvector.com/airport/64GA/Big-T--Air
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Best Regards,
Mark-
678-GO-FLY-HI
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
No Don, unless I stuffed up some how Im sure it only went through once.
Graeme
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hackers
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
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> Graeme,
> Your post came through 4 times. Was that on purpose???. I received a
> similar post from this Sabri person. Getting worried????
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> Don Smythe.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:38 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Hackers
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>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
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>> I have just recieved an email with a Subject Line - Sportflight site
>> (verification) and signed Yasir Sabri. It is recommending a pop up
>> blocker
>> and gives a link to access it from. If you get one of these DO NOT OPEN
>> IT. I'll garrauntee your computer goes into melt down if you do. Strange
>> how some people get their kicks isnt it.
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>> Cheers
>> Graeme
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