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1. 04:49 AM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Fox5flyer)
2. 06:10 AM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Michel Verheughe)
3. 06:40 AM - Re: Solid State gyros. WAS: Trutrak (jareds)
4. 06:49 AM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Randy Daughenbaugh)
5. 07:16 AM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Lowell Fitt)
6. 07:33 AM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Fred Shiple)
7. 08:05 AM - Re: FW: Skyststar Bankruptcy Hearing (Jim Crowder)
8. 09:36 AM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Guy Buchanan)
9. 10:07 AM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Lynn Matteson)
10. 10:07 AM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Lynn Matteson)
11. 10:09 AM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Lynn Matteson)
12. 10:14 AM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Lynn Matteson)
13. 02:31 PM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Don Pearsall)
14. 03:03 PM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Donna and Roger McConnell)
15. 03:23 PM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Rex Shaw)
16. 04:46 PM - Re: Solid State gyros. WAS: Trutrak (kurt schrader)
17. 04:51 PM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Lowell Fitt)
18. 05:16 PM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Marco Menezes)
19. 07:58 PM - Lift strut ends. (QSS)
20. 08:09 PM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Lynn Matteson)
21. 08:12 PM - Re: Another 'fox flies! (Lynn Matteson)
22. 08:32 PM - ZK-RJA (John Anderson)
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| Subject: | Re: Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Heeeyyyyy Lynn! Congrats to you my friend! Get those hours flown off and
fly on up for lunch. I'm buying.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:22 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Another 'fox flies!
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> Up, up, and away....
> I'd like to say that I flew my baby today, but that day will soon come.
> What I can say is that my baby took her first flight today, and it was
> a thing of beauty to behold. A couple hundred feet takeoff roll and it
> was rising at a steeper angle than I would have thought possible. That
> Jabiru power sounded awfully good after all these 19 months of steady
> work. The test pilot suggested dropping the hort. stab. to the lower
> hole, and lowering the idle speed as it floated a bit on landing. He
> reported stall speeds of 45...clean, 40...10 flaps, and 35 for full
> 20 flaps...all in mph increments. So the first flight is in the books,
> all 1.5 hours of it, and I couldn't be happier...well, only if I could
> have taken the flight myself, that is. But in a few weeks, months,
> whatever, I'll be doing just that. But for now I can add to the list of
> people who say that these are one sweet flying machine.
> He reported it stalled straight ahead and flew hands off despite slight
> winds aloft. This guy is an airline pilot who has flown "nearly
> everything" and this was his first flight in a Kitfox...something he
> had always wanted to do, and that mission was accomplished today.
> Another great day for flight.
>
> Lynn
> Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
> N369LM
>
>
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| Subject: | Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Lynn Matteson [lynnmatt@jps.net]
> Up, up, and away....
Congrat ... wait a minute, I have a deja-vu! You are posting the same on both the
Jabiru and Kitfox lists, Lynn! :-)
Welcome to the "JabFox," my friend, you won't regret it!
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Solid State gyros. WAS: Trutrak |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
While VP of EAA in DC area we brought in a mfr of a Palm type system
that used the solid state gyro chip used inexpensively in the automotive
industry to Onstar help in the event of a rollover. I have not seen any
other uses of this but am very interested in finding an inexpensive
attitude gyro to replace my falcon guage unit that the mfr wont' warranty.
If anyone has run across anything to use for basic VFR that would be great.
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>I just "googled" Solid State Gyro and came up with an interesting site:
>
>http://www.w3mh.co.uk/articles/html/csm7_8.htm
>
>Note that it is for RC helicopters but, I believe, it's the same cheap
>solid state gyro used in the TruTrak. The article confirms my
>observation that the response time is extremely high. A downside seems
>to be that it is temperature sensitive.
>In any case, I will never use the TruTrak to fly IMC, but have it as an
>extra safety device if say, I meet a low cloud edge and have to keep
>out of a spin while I do a 180 turn to get out of it. In Norway, we fly
>often in deep valleys with steep mountain sides. We are told to always
>be aware to fly on the weather side of the valley and not the lee side,
>and be ready to make a 180 toward the wind, if needed.
>
>Cheers,
>Michel
>
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| Subject: | Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Man, I just love to hear of another Fox flyin!
Congrats Lynn! And let us know when you have the stick.
Randy
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:22 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Another 'fox flies!
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Up, up, and away....
I'd like to say that I flew my baby today, but that day will soon come.
What I can say is that my baby took her first flight today, and it was
a thing of beauty to behold. A couple hundred feet takeoff roll and it
was rising at a steeper angle than I would have thought possible. That
Jabiru power sounded awfully good after all these 19 months of steady
work. The test pilot suggested dropping the hort. stab. to the lower
hole, and lowering the idle speed as it floated a bit on landing. He
reported stall speeds of 45...clean, 40...10 flaps, and 35 for full
20 flaps...all in mph increments. So the first flight is in the books,
all 1.5 hours of it, and I couldn't be happier...well, only if I could
have taken the flight myself, that is. But in a few weeks, months,
whatever, I'll be doing just that. But for now I can add to the list of
people who say that these are one sweet flying machine.
He reported it stalled straight ahead and flew hands off despite slight
winds aloft. This guy is an airline pilot who has flown "nearly
everything" and this was his first flight in a Kitfox...something he
had always wanted to do, and that mission was accomplished today.
Another great day for flight.
Lynn
Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
N369LM
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| Subject: | Re: Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Lynn,
I also watched the first flight. Enjoy the perspective and get lots of
pictures.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:22 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Another 'fox flies!
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> Up, up, and away....
> I'd like to say that I flew my baby today, but that day will soon come.
> What I can say is that my baby took her first flight today, and it was
> a thing of beauty to behold. A couple hundred feet takeoff roll and it
> was rising at a steeper angle than I would have thought possible. That
> Jabiru power sounded awfully good after all these 19 months of steady
> work. The test pilot suggested dropping the hort. stab. to the lower
> hole, and lowering the idle speed as it floated a bit on landing. He
> reported stall speeds of 45...clean, 40...10 flaps, and 35 for full
> 20 flaps...all in mph increments. So the first flight is in the books,
> all 1.5 hours of it, and I couldn't be happier...well, only if I could
> have taken the flight myself, that is. But in a few weeks, months,
> whatever, I'll be doing just that. But for now I can add to the list of
> people who say that these are one sweet flying machine.
> He reported it stalled straight ahead and flew hands off despite slight
> winds aloft. This guy is an airline pilot who has flown "nearly
> everything" and this was his first flight in a Kitfox...something he
> had always wanted to do, and that mission was accomplished today.
> Another great day for flight.
>
> Lynn
> Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
> N369LM
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
Congratulations, Lynn! Let's plan to fly together this summer- maybe on a trip
to catch Deke for lunch.
Fred
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Skyststar Bankruptcy Hearing |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
I remember from my business law classes that the allocation of goods
is of special meaning. Even to the point of bearing the risk of loss
as from a fire. If it applies here, which it well might, the
allocated parts are his.
Jim Crowder
At 04:53 PM 3/16/2006, you wrote:
>He is saying that since he paid the money
>(thank goodness he hadn't paid them all of the almost $70,000 he had agreed
>to buy from them!), he has the right to the parts and not the bankruptcy
>court. So he is therefore asking for the court to release the parts to him
>instead of including them in Skystar's fire sale.
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| Subject: | Re: Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 08:22 PM 3/28/2006, you wrote:
>Up, up, and away....
Congratulations Lynn! Only 19 months, eh? Well, my baby is in it's 12th
year of assembly and is getting awfully close.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Hey, Deke...I still owe you a lunch for the header tank, but I'll
accept your lunch and owe you one when you get down here again.
Are you going to Sun 'n' Fun?
Lynn
On Wednesday, March 29, 2006, at 07:44 AM, Fox5flyer wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> Heeeyyyyy Lynn! Congrats to you my friend! Get those hours flown off
> and
> fly on up for lunch. I'm buying.
> Deke
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| Subject: | Re: Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
I've got pictures now, but I'm not up to speed on how to post them...is
Sportflite up and running? Or should I send 'em your way, Lowell, and
you can post them?
Lynn
On Wednesday, March 29, 2006, at 10:14 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Lynn,
>
> I also watched the first flight. Enjoy the perspective and get lots of
> pictures.
>
> Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
You got it Fred....the first thing after the "40" is off, we'll strafe
Mikado. : )
On Wednesday, March 29, 2006, at 10:32 AM, Fred Shiple wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple
> <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Congratulations, Lynn! Let's plan to fly together this summer- maybe
> on a trip to catch Deke for lunch.
> Fred
>
> do not archive
Lynn
Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Well, 19 months since I bought it in bare bones. But then I'm retired,
wifeless (read: "no honeydo lists"), and quit chasin' women a few years
back....I don't turn 'em down, mind you, but I'm chasin' airplanes
now....I haven't heard of an airplane yet that filed for divorce from
its' owner. : )
Lynn
On Wednesday, March 29, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
>
> At 08:22 PM 3/28/2006, you wrote:
>> Up, up, and away....
>
>
> Congratulations Lynn! Only 19 months, eh? Well, my baby is in it's 12th
> year of assembly and is getting awfully close.
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Lynn and everyone else... If you have any photos you want to post to
SportFlight.com, just send them to me at donpearsall@comcast.net. Send the
photos and any description and I will post it verbatim. I will work on
restoring the self-upload portion working so that it is more secure.
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Another 'fox flies!
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
I've got pictures now, but I'm not up to speed on how to post them...is
Sportflite up and running? Or should I send 'em your way, Lowell, and
you can post them?
Lynn
On Wednesday, March 29, 2006, at 10:14 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Lynn,
>
> I also watched the first flight. Enjoy the perspective and get lots of
> pictures.
>
> Lowell
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| Subject: | Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Lynn,
You get two special moments. I have never witnessed my plane fly
from the ground. I did have a video made of my second flight. It was cool.
Congrats', and let us know when you are at the stick.
Roger Mac
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:22 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Another 'fox flies!
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Up, up, and away....
I'd like to say that I flew my baby today, but that day will soon come.
What I can say is that my baby took her first flight today, and it was
a thing of beauty to behold. A couple hundred feet takeoff roll and it
was rising at a steeper angle than I would have thought possible. That
Jabiru power sounded awfully good after all these 19 months of steady
work. The test pilot suggested dropping the hort. stab. to the lower
hole, and lowering the idle speed as it floated a bit on landing. He
reported stall speeds of 45...clean, 40...10 flaps, and 35 for full
20 flaps...all in mph increments. So the first flight is in the books,
all 1.5 hours of it, and I couldn't be happier...well, only if I could
have taken the flight myself, that is. But in a few weeks, months,
whatever, I'll be doing just that. But for now I can add to the list of
people who say that these are one sweet flying machine.
He reported it stalled straight ahead and flew hands off despite slight
winds aloft. This guy is an airline pilot who has flown "nearly
everything" and this was his first flight in a Kitfox...something he
had always wanted to do, and that mission was accomplished today.
Another great day for flight.
Lynn
Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
N369LM
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| Subject: | Re: Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Good on you Lynn,
now you can be very proud of your work and soon enjoy
flying the plane yourself. I know you will have many hours of good fun.
Rex Shaw
Australia.
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| Subject: | Re: Solid State gyros. WAS: Trutrak |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I think this is a subject the helo modelers could
address well. The stabilization system they use is
very light, takes little power and should be fairly
competive price wize. Anyone out there got a handle
on this? Or south of the equator
Kurt S.
--- jareds <jareds@verizon.net> wrote:
> While VP of EAA in DC area we brought in a mfr of a
> Palm type system
> that used the solid state gyro chip used
> inexpensively in the automotive
> industry to Onstar help in the event of a rollover.
> I have not seen any
> other uses of this but am very interested in finding
> an inexpensive
> attitude gyro to replace my falcon guage unit that
> the mfr wont' warranty.
>
> If anyone has run across anything to use for basic
> VFR that would be great.
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| Subject: | Re: Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
When N96KL flew for the first time, I borrowed a hangar at Lincoln, CA for
a couple of days. The owner was building a Series 5 and was currently a U-2
pilot at Beal AFB. When those high tech tail draggers land, they always
were followed on short final with a fast car that counted down the final few
feet of altitude on landing.
Well this guy and I were standing there watching the airplane getting ready
for take off when he suddenly said, "Hey, I ve driven the chase car lots of
times get in!" We then chased the airplane down the runway on take off with
him driving and me standing out of the sun roof with the video camera
rolling. We did the same on the landing. It was a kick.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Another 'fox flies!
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
> <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
> Lynn,
> You get two special moments. I have never witnessed my plane fly
> from the ground. I did have a video made of my second flight. It was cool.
> Congrats', and let us know when you are at the stick.
> Roger Mac
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:22 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Another 'fox flies!
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> Up, up, and away....
> I'd like to say that I flew my baby today, but that day will soon come.
> What I can say is that my baby took her first flight today, and it was
> a thing of beauty to behold. A couple hundred feet takeoff roll and it
> was rising at a steeper angle than I would have thought possible. That
> Jabiru power sounded awfully good after all these 19 months of steady
> work. The test pilot suggested dropping the hort. stab. to the lower
> hole, and lowering the idle speed as it floated a bit on landing. He
> reported stall speeds of 45...clean, 40...10 flaps, and 35 for full
> 20 flaps...all in mph increments. So the first flight is in the books,
> all 1.5 hours of it, and I couldn't be happier...well, only if I could
> have taken the flight myself, that is. But in a few weeks, months,
> whatever, I'll be doing just that. But for now I can add to the list of
> people who say that these are one sweet flying machine.
> He reported it stalled straight ahead and flew hands off despite slight
> winds aloft. This guy is an airline pilot who has flown "nearly
> everything" and this was his first flight in a Kitfox...something he
> had always wanted to do, and that mission was accomplished today.
> Another great day for flight.
>
> Lynn
> Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
> N369LM
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Huzzah Lynn! Looking forward to seeing you and all the other Michigan Kitfoxes
at the Michigan Kitfox fly-in (date and place TBA). Hey Deke you never offered
to buy me lunch! Can I come too?
Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
Heeeyyyyy Lynn! Congrats to you my friend! Get those hours flown off and
fly on up for lunch. I'm buying.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson"
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:22 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Another 'fox flies!
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
>
> Up, up, and away....
> I'd like to say that I flew my baby today, but that day will soon come.
> What I can say is that my baby took her first flight today, and it was
> a thing of beauty to behold. A couple hundred feet takeoff roll and it
> was rising at a steeper angle than I would have thought possible. That
> Jabiru power sounded awfully good after all these 19 months of steady
> work. The test pilot suggested dropping the hort. stab. to the lower
> hole, and lowering the idle speed as it floated a bit on landing. He
> reported stall speeds of 45...clean, 40...10 flaps, and 35 for full
> 20 flaps...all in mph increments. So the first flight is in the books,
> all 1.5 hours of it, and I couldn't be happier...well, only if I could
> have taken the flight myself, that is. But in a few weeks, months,
> whatever, I'll be doing just that. But for now I can add to the list of
> people who say that these are one sweet flying machine.
> He reported it stalled straight ahead and flew hands off despite slight
> winds aloft. This guy is an airline pilot who has flown "nearly
> everything" and this was his first flight in a Kitfox...something he
> had always wanted to do, and that mission was accomplished today.
> Another great day for flight.
>
> Lynn
> Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
> N369LM
>
>
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Lift strut ends. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
Hi Guys, I thought it might be a good idea to replace the lift strut
ends (not sure what you call them but they screw in at the wing end of
the lift strut and attach on the under surface). One broke on impact but
the other 3 appear to be OK but as they were placed under high loadings
it would be wise to replace them all. Can someone tell me what their
called and who I order them through please. Thanks in advance.
Regards
Graeme
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29/03/2006
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| Subject: | Re: Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Lincoln, CA, eh, Lowell....seems like I know of a guy who until
recently kept his Kitfox at Lincoln...let me think...what the heck was
his name? : )
Lynn
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On Wednesday, March 29, 2006, at 07:50 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
> When N96KL flew for the first time, I borrowed a hangar at Lincoln,
> CA for
> a couple of days. The owner was building a Series 5 and was currently
> a U-2
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| Subject: | Re: Another 'fox flies! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Make sure that the MI fly-in is at least a month or so away, so I can
attend....or have it within my "golden circle" : ) Actually, I'd
rather it was up there where you are Marco, so I can duck those
military jets, too.
Lynn
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On Wednesday, March 29, 2006, at 08:14 PM, Marco Menezes wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
>
> Huzzah Lynn! Looking forward to seeing you and all the other Michigan
> Kitfoxes at the Michigan Kitfox fly-in (date and place TBA). Hey Deke
> you never offered to buy me lunch! Can I come too?
>
>
> Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
>
> Heeeyyyyy Lynn! Congrats to you my friend! Get those hours flown off
> and
> fly on up for lunch. I'm buying.
> Deke
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Sorry guys for rabbiting on but still on a high due to how nice my wee bird
flies.. Just back from doing my first stall tests so looking for some feed
back from you series 5 drivers. Power off no flap and it just mushes and
begins to descend, no wing drop, same with 1 notch of flap and wee bit of
power. With just myself in the seat the CoG is right on the f/ward limit so
I guess this is normal. I have gap seals on the elevator. John A.
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