Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Wed 04/05/06


Total Messages Posted: 29



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     1. 04:22 AM - Re: Landing Lights on a Model 4? (wwillyard@aol.com)
     2. 04:47 AM - Re: Top Gun Dave/Fueling the Kitfox (Lynn Matteson)
     3. 04:53 AM - Re: Landing Lights on a Model 4? (Fox5flyer)
     4. 05:06 AM - Re: off topic - Date time note (Lynn Matteson)
     5. 06:27 AM - Re: What do I do if no part of my fule system is grounded? (wingnut)
     6. 06:42 AM - Re: power to weight (wingnut)
     7. 07:28 AM - Re: flaps (kitfoxmike)
     8. 07:28 AM - Re: Landing Lights on a Model 4? (Clint Bazzill)
     9. 07:29 AM - Re: pressure filling tanks..... (Aerobatics@aol.com)
    10. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: Corvair in a Fox V (Matt Teixeira)
    11. 08:15 AM - Re: pressure filling tanks..... (Don Pearsall)
    12. 08:16 AM - Rad Heat photo (Algate)
    13. 11:44 AM - Re: Kitfox 4-1200 912 UL 125 hrs TT For Sale (debrun26@juno.com)
    14. 01:17 PM - Re: off topic - Date time note (kurt schrader)
    15. 01:46 PM - Re: off topic - Date time note (Michel Verheughe)
    16. 02:51 PM - service bulletins classic IV (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?=)
    17. 02:51 PM - Re: off topic - Date time note (Rex)
    18. 02:52 PM - Re: off topic - Date time note (Bob Unternaehrer)
    19. 04:27 PM - Rudder cable (Eric)
    20. 04:29 PM - Re: service bulletins classic IV (Ted Palamarek)
    21. 06:03 PM - Ontario Canada Fly-inn (Gill Levesque)
    22. 06:28 PM - Re: More items found (wingsdown)
    23. 06:35 PM - Re: More items found (Aerobatics@aol.com)
    24. 07:42 PM - Re: More items found (wingsdown)
    25. 07:58 PM - Re: Re: How do you refuel your kitfox? (Sam Lawrence)
    26. 09:20 PM - Re: off topic - Date time note (kurt schrader)
    27. 09:20 PM - Re: off topic - Date time note (kurt schrader)
    28. 09:34 PM - Re: off topic - Date time note (kurt schrader)
    29. 11:38 PM - Re: service bulletins classic IV (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?=)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:22:57 AM PST US
    From: wwillyard@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Landing Lights on a Model 4?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: wwillyard@aol.com I have found that I can land better at night by turning the landing light off. It may be use full for taxi operations. I used an automotive light assembly because it was smaller and required less power to operate. As a result it is does not have the output or deflection angle of a true aircraft landing light. This is the compromise that I felt was necessary when building. Even with its reduced power requirements it still exceeds what my Rotax 912 can handle. Bill W. -----Original Message----- From: wingnut <wingnut@spamarrest.com> Sent: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:18:33 -0700 Subject: Kitfox-List: Landing Lights on a Model 4? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> I'm nearing completion of my flight training and I still need to do a night cross country. Only problem is that my model 4 does not have landing lights. I've read that some people are installing landing lights in the cowling. Anyone have details or picture? Is there an easier way to do this? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26484#26484


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    Time: 04:47:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Top Gun Dave/Fueling the Kitfox
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Thanks for reminding me, Rex, that I took the readings the other day and wrote them down on a scrap of paper and promptly shuffled the paper under other scraps near my computer station. : ) My readings were somewhat scrambled on my Craftsman AutoRanging MultiMeter (digital...about $80)....one of these days I'll get a Fluke..I won't know what to do with it, but it'll look impressive to those that know. Anyway, the readings I got were in the neighborhood of 22K-150K ohms, and occasionally bounced up to 1.3M ohms. I was going to report this and became distracted by helping out on another project, and forgot. > Lynn Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200 On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 02:25 PM, Rex Shaw wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com> > > Lynn, > I think re measuring the conductivity of the funnel you will > find no reading on an ordinary multimeter reading ohms. You will need > an instrument called a megger. This actually measures the ohms > resistance using about 500 volts whereas a multimeter is between 1.5 > and 9 volts. The 500 volts needed to get your reading is OK as you are > aren't going to get a spark at low voltage occuring in your filling > situation. Also be prepared that the reading will probaly be fairly > high ohms. Again this is ok as it only needs to bleed, fairly quickly, > off the voltage. [ static build up ] > I just thought I'd point this out before everyone meaured their > conducting funnels with a multimeter and got no reading and worried > about it. > Rex Shaw >


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    Time: 04:53:32 AM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Re: Landing Lights on a Model 4?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> Very nice Clint. I've always wondered about landing lights that are connected directly to the engine. Do you have any problems with light bulbs burning out due vibration? Do you have a part number for it? Deke > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com> > > Check out my landing light and you can call me about light from J.C. Whitney > > Clint (650) 712-1802 > > http://www.msnusers.com/KitfoxLandingLight/shoebox.msnw > > > From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Landing Lights on a Model 4? > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:18:33 -0700 > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> > > I'm nearing completion of my flight training and I still need to do a night > cross country. Only problem is that my model 4 does not have landing lights. > I've read that some people are installing landing lights in the cowling. > Anyone have details or picture? Is there an easier way to do this? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26484#26484 > >


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    Time: 05:06:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: off topic - Date time note
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Ya gotta love it, Kurt! I'm a number freak myself, and recall the old saying: "If you torture numbers enough, they'll tell you anything" Lynn do not archive On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 01:20 AM, kurt schrader wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > FYI, > > On Wednesday morning, at two minutes and three seconds > after 1:00 AM, the time and date was: 01:02:03 > 04/05/06 or 1,2,3,4,5,6 :-) > > Kurt S. >


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    Time: 06:27:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: What do I do if no part of my fule system is grounded?
    From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> I found an interesting funnel in the auto store today. It's metal with an integrated, two foot long, articulated metal spout attached to the end. If I have enough fuel in the tank that the spout will touch it when sitting in the filler neck then grounding the funnel should ground out all the fuel in the tank right? Then all I have to do is make sure that the fuel in the gas can has no charge and I should be good to go right? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26569#26569


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    Time: 06:42:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: power to weight
    From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> > Measured in all phases of operation I take this to mean that they averaged out cruise with taxi and landing ops. So how long did they have to sit on the tarmac at idle to get these numbers? Sneaky bastards. :-) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26575#26575


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    Time: 07:28:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: flaps
    From: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com> as soon as I can get some pics I'll post, I think some pics of the funnel heater would be in line also. -------- kitfoxmike kitfox4 1200 912ul speedster http://www.frappr.com/kitfoxmike Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26585#26585


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    Time: 07:28:07 AM PST US
    From: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Landing Lights on a Model 4?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com> The very small driving light from J.C. Whitney has two screws on each side. It is safety wired and double insulated from the oil cooler. It uses one quartz halagan 57w bulb. I was worried about vibration and breaking the filament but been on there for over 500 hours. Clint From: "jeff puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Landing Lights on a Model 4? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com> Clint, How has the light held up? Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 4:03 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Landing Lights on a Model 4? > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" > <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com> > > Check out my landing light and you can call me about light from J.C. > Whitney > > Clint (650) 712-1802 > > http://www.msnusers.com/KitfoxLandingLight/shoebox.msnw > > > From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Landing Lights on a Model 4? > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:18:33 -0700 > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> > > I'm nearing completion of my flight training and I still need to do a > night > cross country. Only problem is that my model 4 does not have landing > lights. > I've read that some people are installing landing lights in the cowling. > Anyone have details or picture? Is there an easier way to do this? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26484#26484 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:29:46 AM PST US
    From: Aerobatics@aol.com
    Subject: Re: pressure filling tanks.....
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com In a message dated 4/5/2006 12:26:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com writes: Thanks Dave, If you can post a pic, that will still help with future plans. Ok how do post a photo here? I would be glad to Dave


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    Time: 08:15:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Corvair in a Fox V
    From: "Matt Teixeira" <mteixeira@wmlylesco.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Matt Teixeira" <mteixeira@wmlylesco.com> Norm Keep us posted on your progress. I have searched the web and you are the only builder of a Corvair Fox so close to flying and sharing their experience. Your photographs on Sportflight are also the only ones I've ever found of a Corvair Fox. Now that's experimental aviation! Thanks. Matt IV-1200 Fresno, CA Norm wrote: "I am still doing some of those late minute things, but looking to be in the air again late this week or early next."


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    Time: 08:15:16 AM PST US
    From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
    Subject: pressure filling tanks.....
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net> Dave, I would be happy to post pics for you on Sportflight.com. Just send them to donpearsall@comcast.net along with the description you want. Don Pearsall -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Aerobatics@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:29 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: pressure filling tanks..... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com In a message dated 4/5/2006 12:26:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com writes: Thanks Dave, If you can post a pic, that will still help with future plans. Ok how do post a photo here? I would be glad to Dave


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    Time: 08:16:17 AM PST US
    From: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
    Subject: Rad Heat photo
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net> Recent postings about using a funnel to direct rad heat into the cab sound similar to my set up using a Tupperware container. I have sent a photo to Don Pearson to be posted on Sportflight for anyone interested Gary


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    Time: 11:44:32 AM PST US
    From: "debrun26@juno.com" <debrun26@juno.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox 4-1200 912 UL 125 hrs TT For Sale
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "debrun26@juno.com" <debrun26@juno.com> Hi Jay~ I would be interested in your kitfox at the right price... I'm from Anchorage Alaska and have been looking for a KF for a while now. There is one up here for sale now for 30K but I've continued to look cause I don't trust the car dealer owner. There's also a 3/4 built one w/ a 582 engine for just 12K but I want the 912 or would even prefer the 912s w/floats and skiis. Please let me know more about your KF and what extras it has. Sent pics if you can ...does it have ferrings ...what is the cruse speed ...empty weight and useful load???? I assume it's around 600lbs.... also is it the model 4 or the classic 4... does the landing gear have the bungie system? I don't know what else to ask but fill me i n as best you can!! You can call if you like. ph: 907-677-1116 Thanks Layne Cropper Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Hi Jay~ I would be interested in your kitfox at the right price... I'm from Anchorage Alaska and have been looking for a KF for a while now. There is one up here for sale now for 30K but I've continued to look cause I don't trust the car dealer owner. There's also a 3/4 built one w/ a 582 engine for just 12K but I want the 912 or would even prefer the 912s w/floats and skiis. Please let me know more about your KF and what extras it has. Sent pics if you can ...does it have ferrings ...what is the cruse speed ...empty weight and useful load???? I assume it's around 600lbs.... also is it the model 4 or the classic 4... does the landing gear have the bungie system? I don't know what else to ask but fill me i n as best you can!! You can callif you like. ph: 907-677-1116 Thanks Layne Cropper Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month!


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    Time: 01:17:41 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: off topic - Date time note
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Yes Lynn, Math IS fun! It is a language you can play with. I tried to do my Fox cruise in Mach #'s, but my wiz wheel doesn't go that low. Could have done it in "sublight speeds" to impress, but that requires negative exponents. Still could sound impressive. You know, something like: "Yup. She cruises at 3.284 times the speed of light to the minus 28th power!" Sounds impressive. Might really be the speed of a sleeping snail's blood flow, but who's to know? Maybe we could work it out sometime for real. Then all us Foxers can add, "No really, my Fox goes that fast!" when people look at you with disbelief. This near to the earth we are so close to suborbital velocity anyway! :-) In a good wind we can actually achive Synchronous Orbit! (As in zero ground speed) Kurt S. Do not archive --- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote: > Ya gotta love it, Kurt! I'm a number freak myself, > and recall the old saying: "If you torture numbers > enough, they'll tell you anything" > > Lynn > do not archive > > On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 01:20 AM, kurt > schrader wrote: > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > > > FYI, > > > > On Wednesday morning, at two minutes and three > seconds > > after 1:00 AM, the time and date was: 01:02:03 > > 04/05/06 or 1,2,3,4,5,6 :-) > > > > Kurt S.


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    Time: 01:46:59 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: off topic - Date time note
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:14 PM, kurt schrader wrote: > This near to the earth we are so close to suborbital > velocity anyway! :-) In a good wind we can actually > achive Synchronous Orbit! (As in zero ground speed) You guys know how to talk dirty! In Norway, we have simplified math. It goes like this: One, two, three, many. Simple, isn't it? E.g. three plus one is ... many. Many plus many is ... still many. Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 02:51:52 PM PST US
    From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?= <geir_olav@c2i.net>
    Subject: service bulletins classic IV
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?= <geir_olav@c2i.net> I am going to start covering my IV now, but since skystar is out of buisness, i am looking for all the service bulletins for my Kitfox IV (kit from 1994). I found several links for different service bulletins, but all is linked to Skystar (links is dead). If somebody has service bulletins for the IV, or tell me where i can download it, i probably would sleep better:-). I better check out if there is any SB=A8s i need to do before covering the aircraft. thanks Geir Olav


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    Time: 02:51:52 PM PST US
    From: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net>
    Subject: Re: off topic - Date time note
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net> Hey Kurt, try this page: http://www.onlineconversion.com/speed_all.htm 95 mile/hour = 1.417031668e-7 speed of light [air] Rex Orlando (See ya tomorrow...BTW, my old green Kitfox hat truns out to be a Skystar version not Denny) kurt schrader wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > >Yes Lynn, > >Math IS fun! It is a language you can play with. > >I tried to do my Fox cruise in Mach #'s, but my wiz >wheel doesn't go that low. > >Could have done it in "sublight speeds" to impress, >but that requires negative exponents. Still could >sound impressive. You know, something like: > >"Yup. She cruises at 3.284 times the speed of light >to the minus 28th power!" > >Sounds impressive. Might really be the speed of a >sleeping snail's blood flow, but who's to know? Maybe >we could work it out sometime for real. Then all us >Foxers can add, > >"No really, my Fox goes that fast!" when people look >at you with disbelief. > >This near to the earth we are so close to suborbital >velocity anyway! :-) In a good wind we can actually >achive Synchronous Orbit! (As in zero ground speed) > >Kurt S. > >Do not archive > >--- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote: > > > >>Ya gotta love it, Kurt! I'm a number freak myself, >>and recall the old saying: "If you torture numbers >>enough, they'll tell you anything" >> >>Lynn >>do not archive >> >>On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 01:20 AM, kurt >>schrader wrote: >> >> >> >>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader >>><smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> >>> >>>FYI, >>> >>>On Wednesday morning, at two minutes and three >>> >>> >>seconds >> >> >>>after 1:00 AM, the time and date was: 01:02:03 >>>04/05/06 or 1,2,3,4,5,6 :-) >>> >>>Kurt S. >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > -- Karla and Rex Hefferan Gypsy Bee Innkeepers 719-651-5198 or 719-651-9192


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    Time: 02:52:27 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
    Subject: Re: off topic - Date time note
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com> Don't you just divide the Challenger speed, say 50 mph (smile) by the speed of sound at sea level and a standard day,,,,what ever that is, which might be about .1 mach Bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: off topic - Date time note > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > Yes Lynn, > > Math IS fun! It is a language you can play with. > > I tried to do my Fox cruise in Mach #'s, but my wiz > wheel doesn't go that low. > > Could have done it in "sublight speeds" to impress, > but that requires negative exponents. Still could > sound impressive. You know, something like: > > "Yup. She cruises at 3.284 times the speed of light > to the minus 28th power!" > > Sounds impressive. Might really be the speed of a > sleeping snail's blood flow, but who's to know? Maybe > we could work it out sometime for real. Then all us > Foxers can add, > > "No really, my Fox goes that fast!" when people look > at you with disbelief. > > This near to the earth we are so close to suborbital > velocity anyway! :-) In a good wind we can actually > achive Synchronous Orbit! (As in zero ground speed) > > Kurt S. > > Do not archive > > --- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote: > > > Ya gotta love it, Kurt! I'm a number freak myself, > > and recall the old saying: "If you torture numbers > > enough, they'll tell you anything" > > > > Lynn > > do not archive > > > > On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 01:20 AM, kurt > > schrader wrote: > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > > > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > > > > > FYI, > > > > > > On Wednesday morning, at two minutes and three > > seconds > > > after 1:00 AM, the time and date was: 01:02:03 > > > 04/05/06 or 1,2,3,4,5,6 :-) > > > > > > Kurt S. > >


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    Time: 04:27:39 PM PST US
    From: "Eric" <iworonko@cox.net>
    Subject: Rudder cable
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Eric" <iworonko@cox.net> Greetings, getting ready to change rudder cable on a Speedster. Is there an advantage in going with 1/8" SS over 3/16" or is it an overkill? Eric


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    Time: 04:29:41 PM PST US
    From: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
    Subject: service bulletins classic IV
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net> Geir John has them on the Sport Plane site got to the site below and it will take you direct to the service bulletins and service letters http://www.sportplanellc.com/sb&sl.htm Ted Palamarek Edmonton, Ab ---------------------------------SNIP----------------------------- Subject: Kitfox-List: service bulletins classic IV --> Kitfox-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?<geir_olav@c2i.net> I am going to start covering my IV now, but since skystar is out of buisness, i am looking for all the service bulletins for my Kitfox IV (kit from 1994). I found several links for different service bulletins, but all is linked to Skystar (links is dead). If somebody has service bulletins for the IV, or tell me where i can download it, i probably would sleep better:-). I better check out if there is any SB=A8s i need to do before covering the aircraft. thanks Geir Olav


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    Time: 06:03:59 PM PST US
    From: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Ontario Canada Fly-inn
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca> Hey all Ontario Kitfoxers, We should get a fly-in happening some time soon! Spring is here so dust off your wings and let's get together!! Gil Levesque C-IGVL Welland ON, 1700 foot strip and a BBQ!! ---------------------------------


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    Time: 06:28:38 PM PST US
    From: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
    Subject: More items found
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net> I would like to get 300 plus shipping. All new never installed. With instruction. Thanks Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tony fiacco Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 3:24 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: More items found --> Kitfox-List message posted by: tony fiacco <tony_fiacco@yahoo.com> i am interested in the landing lights, please contact me with type price etc. thanks wingsdown <wingsdown@comcast.net> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" Well I just sold the complete strobe and light setup and ran across a few other items someone might be interested in. I thought I would be moving sooner and had things boxed up, slow market right now. Contact me off list if you like. Full wingtip dual both sides landing light kit with all hardware never installed. Transponder antenna, the fin type. (2) E.I. digital egts less probes. Electric clock MD-90. Yaesu hand held with accessories, has VOR,altitude and DA. (2) custom air/oil separators very nice can be seen on sportflight on my NSI engine. Com/Nav antenna model VHF5-1 Digital volt amp gage by EI VA-1A. (1) left wheel skirt And yes I think there is more somewhere. Rick ---------------------------------


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    Time: 06:35:31 PM PST US
    From: Aerobatics@aol.com
    Subject: Re: More items found
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com In a message dated 4/5/2006 8:29:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, wingsdown@comcast.net writes: I would like to get 300 plus shipping. All new never installed. With instruction. Thanks Rick Oh whats DA? Thanks Dave


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    Time: 07:42:46 PM PST US
    From: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
    Subject: More items found
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net> Density altitude. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Aerobatics@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:35 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: More items found --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com In a message dated 4/5/2006 8:29:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, wingsdown@comcast.net writes: I would like to get 300 plus shipping. All new never installed. With instruction. Thanks Rick Oh whats DA? Thanks Dave


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    Time: 07:58:09 PM PST US
    From: "Sam Lawrence" <pslawr@telus.net>
    Subject: Re: How do you refuel your kitfox?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Sam Lawrence" <pslawr@telus.net> My experience has been "NEVER USE A METAL FUNNEL" when fueling from plastic gas cans to a metal filler cap. I saw sparks and decided that there is definitely no future in that arrangement. I now use a plastic funnel and have had no problems. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 11:12 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: How do you refuel your kitfox? > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" > <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> > > I have had solvent handling safety experts tell me that you can not get > static discharge when using plastic cans and tanks because the plastic > doesn't conduct well enough to cause the discharge. I suspect that this > is > true when humidity is in the double digits, but I have seen methanol > ignited > going into a 500 gallon polyethylene tank. Humidity was about 7% at the > time. > > I would caution against grounding plastic tanks. It can be done, but if > not > done right, you can increase the hazard by creating more opportunity for > sparks than existed before. > > I like Alan's Static Guard and then let the plastic gas can sit on the > wing > for a few minutes prior to pouring. I also ground my body by touching > metal > on the frame immediately prior to pouring. > > Randy - Series 5/7 - 912S > > . > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan & Linda > Daniels > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 3:30 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: How do you refuel your kitfox? > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels > <aldaniels@fmtc.com> > > Plastic is the worst for static. Ground the plane. Kill the static with > Static Guard like for computers or woman's dresses. Don't touch the gas > cap on the plane first. Put the gas jug on the ground. Spray can, > funnel, and plane with static guard. Then touch the plane with the can > away from the gas cap. They you can fuel. We had a horrible disaster up > this way a month or so ago fueling from static that killed the 17 year > old that was fueling and the father that tried to save him is still > critical. And that was from a certified fueling truck. > > wingnut wrote: > >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> >> >> >>cliffh(at)outdrs.net wrote: >> >> >>>I use two wires to ground the airplane. One is clipped to the funnel in > the >>>tank, and the other end, to the landing gear. The other is clipped to the >>>landind gear, the other end is clipped to the metal frame of the hanger. >>>--- >>> >>> >> >> >>Hmm. What if eveything I'm using is plastic (can, spout, funnel, etc). Is > there still a static issue? There's no point in grounding a plastic funnel > right? >> >> >> >> >>Read this topic online here: >> >>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=25617#25617 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 09:20:05 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: off topic - Date time note
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Bob (aka Rube Mathburg), Would it be ok to report .80 mach since the prop tip speed is about that? At least some part of a fox is near the speed of sound! :-0 Oh, forgot. The exhaust may exceed mach one. That is why it is so noisy. Thanks to Rex, the conversion page makes the Challenger's 50 mph about .066 mach. My S-5 can hit 140 mph or .184 mach! Now that is truckin'! Kurt S. :-) Do not archive --- Bob Unternaehrer <shilocom@mcmsys.com> wrote: > Don't you just divide the Challenger speed, say 50 > mph (smile) by the speed > of sound at sea level and a standard day,,,,what > ever that is, which might be about .1 mach Bob U.


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    Time: 09:20:30 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: off topic - Date time note
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Rex, Got my Fox hat. Got your number. Expect to be there around noon and start scouting. Got your web site too. Great one! Now I know my 140 mph VNE Fox can hit 208.8 times e-9 speed of light! Kurt S. --- Rex <gypsybee@copper.net> wrote: > Hey Kurt, try this page: > http://www.onlineconversion.com/speed_all.htm > 95 mile/hour = 1.417031668e-7 speed of light [air] > > Rex > Orlando > (See ya tomorrow...BTW, my old green Kitfox hat > truns out to be a Skystar version not Denny)


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    Time: 09:34:26 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: off topic - Date time note
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Michel, We could go on and on with this one, like how do women buy shoes, or what size was that fish I caught yesterday? Or how long does winter last in Norway? But I got to go to Sun&Fun tomorrow, so I am moving way past "do not archive" to "do not post" until I am back. See you all after Shangrala Kurt S. --- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote: > On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:14 PM, kurt schrader wrote: > > This near to the earth we are so close to > suborbital > > velocity anyway! :-) In a good wind we can > actually > > achive Synchronous Orbit! (As in zero ground > speed) > > You guys know how to talk dirty! In Norway, we have > simplified math. > It goes like this: One, two, three, many. Simple, > isn't it? E.g. three > plus one is ... many. Many plus many is ... still > many. > > Cheers, > Michel > > do not archive


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    Time: 11:38:28 PM PST US
    From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?= <geir_olav@c2i.net>
    Subject: Re: service bulletins classic IV
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?= <geir_olav@c2i.net> Thanks. (the last time i was on that site, the links was dead, but works fine now) Geir ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 1:29 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: service bulletins classic IV > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" > <temco@telusplanet.net> > > Geir > > John has them on the Sport Plane site got to the site below and it will > take > you direct to the service bulletins and service letters > > > http://www.sportplanellc.com/sb&sl.htm > > Ted Palamarek > Edmonton, Ab > > > ---------------------------------SNIP----------------------------- > Subject: Kitfox-List: service bulletins classic IV > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: > =?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?<geir_olav@c2i.net> > > I am going to start covering my IV now, but since skystar is out of > buisness, i am looking for all the service bulletins for my Kitfox IV (kit > from 1994). I found several links for different service bulletins, but all > is linked to Skystar (links is dead). If somebody has service bulletins > for > the IV, or tell me where i can download it, i probably would sleep > better:-). > I better check out if there is any SB=A8s i need to do before covering the > aircraft. > > thanks > > Geir Olav > > >




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