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1. 03:49 AM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (Bradley M Webb)
2. 04:34 AM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (Fox5flyer)
3. 04:59 AM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (W Duke)
4. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (Bradley M Webb)
5. 08:30 AM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (W Duke)
6. 08:39 AM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (kurt schrader)
7. 08:42 AM - Re: Re: Oil Thermostat (kurt schrader)
8. 12:38 PM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (Lowell Fitt)
9. 03:21 PM - Re: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover (Dave and Diane)
10. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: Oil Thermostat (Lynn Matteson)
11. 03:54 PM - Re: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover (Rueb, Duane)
12. 05:08 PM - Re: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover (ron schick)
13. 05:08 PM - gearbox (Jeff Scovill)
14. 05:27 PM - N91KS- N91KF (ron schick)
15. 05:35 PM - Re: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover (clemwehner)
16. 05:58 PM - Re: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover (Lowell Fitt)
17. 10:21 PM - Re: Re: Oil Thermostat (kurt schrader)
18. 10:31 PM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (kurt schrader)
19. 11:16 PM - Re: off topic - Date time note (kurt schrader)
20. 11:22 PM - Re: Oil cooler thermostats (kurt schrader)
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| Subject: | Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
That was actually a KF model 2. That was the HKS Demo plane the talk about
on their website. Nice motor, but pricey and not enough hp, especially for a
4.
The tail was different, more like the Avid. Mine is squared off, classic KF
shape. Started me wondering which tail I've got.
The thing that amazed me was the large amount of Lancair 4's there. Makes
sense, since it's a long range cross-country airplane. Just seemed to be
everywhere. Of course Vans were in force, no surprise.
I'd bet Kitfoxes are #2 on the list of most built experimentals, right
behind Vans. But since they are not the best CC airplanes, maybe that's why
there weren't more at SnF? A trip from the West coast is a major effort in a
KF, not so much in a Lancair, or RV7.
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Malcolmbru@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Malcolmbru@aol.com
I was riding around in a golf cart and was compelled to offer a guy a ride
only to find out he was a kit fox owner also he used Matronics user group
and
recognized my name and promised to speak up the next time you guy, s made
fun of my grammar.
The blue KF4 powered by a HKS in UL field was owned buy the owner of a
company called green sky adventures. Maker of the micro mong kit.
Malcolm Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
I don't recall anyone making fun of your grammer Malcolm. I guess I may
have missed it when I was on vacation. Next time it happens let me know.
Where in Michigan are you located?
Deke
do not archive
>
> I was riding around in a golf cart and was compelled to offer a guy a
ride
> only to find out he was a kit fox owner also he used Matronics user
group and
> recognized my name and promised to speak up the next time you guy, s made
> fun of my grammar.
> The blue KF4 powered by a HKS in UL field was owned buy the owner of
a
> company called green sky adventures. Maker of the micro mong kit.
> Malcolm Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
I agree with the speed issue wrt presence of KF vs Lancair. Also most Lancairs
will be IFR capable making weather less of an issue. When I went to Osh Kosh
I took off work the whole week with my planned departure from Osh Kosh being
Wednesday in order to have a window that would nearly guarantee decent weather
for my return. I do not have my IFR ticket.
Maxwell
Bradley M Webb <bmwebb@cox.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb"
That was actually a KF model 2. That was the HKS Demo plane the talk about
on their website. Nice motor, but pricey and not enough hp, especially for a
4.
The tail was different, more like the Avid. Mine is squared off, classic KF
shape. Started me wondering which tail I've got.
The thing that amazed me was the large amount of Lancair 4's there. Makes
sense, since it's a long range cross-country airplane. Just seemed to be
everywhere. Of course Vans were in force, no surprise.
I'd bet Kitfoxes are #2 on the list of most built experimentals, right
behind Vans. But since they are not the best CC airplanes, maybe that's why
there weren't more at SnF? A trip from the West coast is a major effort in a
KF, not so much in a Lancair, or RV7.
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Malcolmbru@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Malcolmbru@aol.com
I was riding around in a golf cart and was compelled to offer a guy a ride
only to find out he was a kit fox owner also he used Matronics user group
and
recognized my name and promised to speak up the next time you guy, s made
fun of my grammar.
The blue KF4 powered by a HKS in UL field was owned buy the owner of a
company called green sky adventures. Maker of the micro mong kit.
Malcolm Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
True about the IFR. Why wouldn't you IFR one of those beauties?
If all goes as planned, I'll be making the trip to Osh, with a neat surprise
for you all. I'll need to do what you did, to leave enough window for wx.
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of W Duke
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:57 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
I agree with the speed issue wrt presence of KF vs Lancair. Also most
Lancairs will be IFR capable making weather less of an issue. When I went
to Osh Kosh I took off work the whole week with my planned departure from
Osh Kosh being Wednesday in order to have a window that would nearly
guarantee decent weather for my return. I do not have my IFR ticket.
Maxwell
Bradley M Webb <bmwebb@cox.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb"
That was actually a KF model 2. That was the HKS Demo plane the talk about
on their website. Nice motor, but pricey and not enough hp, especially for a
4.
The tail was different, more like the Avid. Mine is squared off, classic KF
shape. Started me wondering which tail I've got.
The thing that amazed me was the large amount of Lancair 4's there. Makes
sense, since it's a long range cross-country airplane. Just seemed to be
everywhere. Of course Vans were in force, no surprise.
I'd bet Kitfoxes are #2 on the list of most built experimentals, right
behind Vans. But since they are not the best CC airplanes, maybe that's why
there weren't more at SnF? A trip from the West coast is a major effort in a
KF, not so much in a Lancair, or RV7.
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Malcolmbru@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Malcolmbru@aol.com
I was riding around in a golf cart and was compelled to offer a guy a ride
only to find out he was a kit fox owner also he used Matronics user group
and
recognized my name and promised to speak up the next time you guy, s made
fun of my grammar.
The blue KF4 powered by a HKS in UL field was owned buy the owner of a
company called green sky adventures. Maker of the micro mong kit.
Malcolm Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
Actually I did. The plane is IFR, the pilot is not. I plan to do my IFR training
in it when I get time.
do not archive
Maxwell
Bradley M Webb <bmwebb@cox.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb"
True about the IFR. Why wouldn't you IFR one of those beauties?
If all goes as planned, I'll be making the trip to Osh, with a neat surprise
for you all. I'll need to do what you did, to leave enough window for wx.
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of W Duke
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:57 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke
I agree with the speed issue wrt presence of KF vs Lancair. Also most
Lancairs will be IFR capable making weather less of an issue. When I went
to Osh Kosh I took off work the whole week with my planned departure from
Osh Kosh being Wednesday in order to have a window that would nearly
guarantee decent weather for my return. I do not have my IFR ticket.
Maxwell
Bradley M Webb wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb"
That was actually a KF model 2. That was the HKS Demo plane the talk about
on their website. Nice motor, but pricey and not enough hp, especially for a
4.
The tail was different, more like the Avid. Mine is squared off, classic KF
shape. Started me wondering which tail I've got.
The thing that amazed me was the large amount of Lancair 4's there. Makes
sense, since it's a long range cross-country airplane. Just seemed to be
everywhere. Of course Vans were in force, no surprise.
I'd bet Kitfoxes are #2 on the list of most built experimentals, right
behind Vans. But since they are not the best CC airplanes, maybe that's why
there weren't more at SnF? A trip from the West coast is a major effort in a
KF, not so much in a Lancair, or RV7.
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Malcolmbru@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Malcolmbru@aol.com
I was riding around in a golf cart and was compelled to offer a guy a ride
only to find out he was a kit fox owner also he used Matronics user group
and
recognized my name and promised to speak up the next time you guy, s made
fun of my grammar.
The blue KF4 powered by a HKS in UL field was owned buy the owner of a
company called green sky adventures. Maker of the micro mong kit.
Malcolm Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
While at S&F I talked to the insurance guys and asked
a few questions, amoung them, how much to ensure a
Lancair 4. Only Falcon would insure a 4 these days,
and when I mentioned knowing someone who paid $18,000
per year for his, the Falcon rep didn't blink. We got
into a few details and I was told that too many low
time pilots were flying the 4's and crashing. Now
Falcon required retraining every 6 months before
continuing insurance on the 4's.
So if you think a taildragger KF is a problem, or your
insurance is too high, be glad you are not flying a
Lancair 4. You could fly first class a lot cheaper.
Kurt S. KF-5 :-)
--- Bradley M Webb <bmwebb@cox.net> wrote:
..................
> The thing that amazed me was the large amount of
> Lancair 4's there. Makes
> sense, since it's a long range cross-country
> airplane............
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Thermostat |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Lynn,
I think you got the answer, but just in case, mine was
from Lockwood. I saved $10 by not getting the hose
barbs with it since I will be using the compression
fittings.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
> Where did you get your oil thermostat?
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| Subject: | Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Kurt, I think it was Alan Daniels that posted that the Lancair IV has a
25% accident record. Lots have gone down and a lot of people have died in
them. The Lancair factory has a program in concert with an insurance
company that if followed will reduce the insurance significantly - down
below $10,000. Still if I had that kind of money in addition to gas and
everything else, I would just pick up another Kitfox or two or maybe just
foy the big bird around the country to meet some of you.
The program is essentially as you mentioned. Extensive checkout with a
factory authorized instructor and regular recurrent training. On the
project across the street, we closed out the fuselage Friday, yesterday we
closed the door and today we are installing door hinges etc. It is an
interesting project, but I am not really excited to fly in it. we'll see.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> While at S&F I talked to the insurance guys and asked
> a few questions, amoung them, how much to ensure a
> Lancair 4. Only Falcon would insure a 4 these days,
> and when I mentioned knowing someone who paid $18,000
> per year for his, the Falcon rep didn't blink. We got
> into a few details and I was told that too many low
> time pilots were flying the 4's and crashing. Now
> Falcon required retraining every 6 months before
> continuing insurance on the 4's.
>
> So if you think a taildragger KF is a problem, or your
> insurance is too high, be glad you are not flying a
> Lancair 4. You could fly first class a lot cheaper.
>
> Kurt S. KF-5 :-)
>
> --- Bradley M Webb <bmwebb@cox.net> wrote:
>
> ..................
>> The thing that amazed me was the large amount of
>> Lancair 4's there. Makes
>> sense, since it's a long range cross-country
>> airplane............
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave and Diane <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
Most recent records show ownership of this aircraft as:
Ross Niffenegger
2350 Morrison LN
Solano, CA 94585
And yes, it has been around a bit
Dave S
Do Not Archive
On Wednesday 12 April 2006 11:16 pm, Ted Palamarek wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
>
> Jim
>
> N91KF was the Demo plane that Skystar demonstrated and also used as a test
> bed. Don't know who may own it now. I have a real nice photo of it on Full
> Lotus floats.
>
> Ted
> Edmonton
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Crowder
> Sent: April 11, 2006 6:37 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
>
> I was just looking through my April QST which is the ARRL Ham
> publication and came upon a red Kitfox. It was a full page add for
> an ARRL publication called "Amateur Radio on the Move." It is a "how
> to" manual for using Ham radios in mobile installations. The front
> cover features what I take to be a Model 4 red Kitfox with tail
> number N91KF. The identification "Kitfox" is prominent on the side
> of the aircraft. Looking good!
>
> Jim Crowder
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Thermostat |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
No, Kurt, I didn't get the answer. What model, size fittings, etc, is
yours? My Jabiru engine uses AN6 size fittings....I just by-passed the
oil cooler because the temps weren't coming up, but may soon have to go
back to the cooler, as the weather warms up. Does the oil thermostat
completely block the flow of oil when the temp is cool? I hope not
because my set-up is out of an oil filter adapter, through the oil
cooler (or in my case right now, by-passing the cooler), then back
through the oil filter adapter.
Lynn
Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
On Thursday, April 13, 2006, at 11:41 AM, kurt schrader wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> Lynn,
>
> I think you got the answer, but just in case, mine was
> from Lockwood. I saved $10 by not getting the hose
> barbs with it since I will be using the compression
> fittings.
>
> Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
>
> --- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
>
>> Where did you get your oil thermostat?
>
>
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| Subject: | Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane" <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu>
Dave, Jim, Ted:
Now I am wondering if this could be the plane that I saw at
Davis airport way back when I owned and flew a TriPacer. I seem to
recall seeing a red Kitfox at Davis in possibly 1984, or '85 at the
latest, because I know that I sold my TriPacer in 1986, and that was
after having taken it apart and storing it for a considerable period in
my barn in Newcastle. Solano is quite close to Davis, and it is
compelling to think that this might be the airplane that I saw way back
then, but common sense and how long people keep things dictates against
it.
Funny, I have thought of that early sighting of a Kitfox, which
only now I understand would have had to be one of the first ones. I
didn't think much of it at the time, and certainly didn't then even
suspect that I would one day own one of em.
Duane Rueb, N24ZM, KF6GYB
-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave and
Diane
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave and Diane
<ddsyverson@comcast.net>
Most recent records show ownership of this aircraft as:
Ross Niffenegger
2350 Morrison LN
Solano, CA 94585
And yes, it has been around a bit
Dave S
Do Not Archive
On Wednesday 12 April 2006 11:16 pm, Ted Palamarek wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek"
<temco@telusplanet.net>
>
> Jim
>
> N91KF was the Demo plane that Skystar demonstrated and also used as a
test
> bed. Don't know who may own it now. I have a real nice photo of it on
Full
> Lotus floats.
>
> Ted
> Edmonton
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Crowder
> Sent: April 11, 2006 6:37 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
>
> I was just looking through my April QST which is the ARRL Ham
> publication and came upon a red Kitfox. It was a full page add for
> an ARRL publication called "Amateur Radio on the Move." It is a "how
> to" manual for using Ham radios in mobile installations. The front
> cover features what I take to be a Model 4 red Kitfox with tail
> number N91KF. The identification "Kitfox" is prominent on the side
> of the aircraft. Looking good!
>
> Jim Crowder
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Google the n number. Faa records show ownership and former owner. Exported
to Japan.
Ron NB Ore
>From: Dave and Diane <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover
>Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:18:54 -0500
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave and Diane <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
>
>Most recent records show ownership of this aircraft as:
>
>Ross Niffenegger
>2350 Morrison LN
>Solano, CA 94585
>
>And yes, it has been around a bit
>
>Dave S
>
>Do Not Archive
>
>On Wednesday 12 April 2006 11:16 pm, Ted Palamarek wrote:
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek"
><temco@telusplanet.net>
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > N91KF was the Demo plane that Skystar demonstrated and also used as a
>test
> > bed. Don't know who may own it now. I have a real nice photo of it on
>Full
> > Lotus floats.
> >
> > Ted
> > Edmonton
> >
> > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Crowder
> > Sent: April 11, 2006 6:37 PM
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
> >
> > I was just looking through my April QST which is the ARRL Ham
> > publication and came upon a red Kitfox. It was a full page add for
> > an ARRL publication called "Amateur Radio on the Move." It is a "how
> > to" manual for using Ham radios in mobile installations. The front
> > cover features what I take to be a Model 4 red Kitfox with tail
> > number N91KF. The identification "Kitfox" is prominent on the side
> > of the aircraft. Looking good!
> >
> > Jim Crowder
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeff Scovill" <cliffsofinsanity1@comcast.net>
Hello All
Is it possible to put a gear box on a kf1 ,even tho the horizontal stabilizer is
off set the wrong way?
Thanks
Jeff
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Google shows N91KS and N91KF both deregistered and exported. One went to
Japan and the other to South Africa. N91KS is the Skystar Speedster from
their old website. I have the photo saved as my desktop on both of my
computers.
Ron NB Or N541KF Speedster
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| Subject: | Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net>
I took dozens of photos of N1KF in July 1991 at an airshow in Oklahoma
City. I subsequently ordered my KF-IV in October 1991. One of the
pictures I have is of the data plate which was mounted on the firewall
just behind the right rudder pedals.
The data plate shows that N1KF was a Kitfox Model IV-1050 manufactured
by Denney Aerocraft on 20 March 1991. You've seen it in lots of
advertising pictures including with floats. It had droop tips and a 912
engine. It was used as the demonstrator and made lots of airshows until
N1KS (the first speedster)came out.
Cheers,
Clem
Lawton, OK
KF-IV-912
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rueb, Duane
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane"
<ruebd@skymail.csus.edu>
Now I am wondering if this could be the plane that I saw at
Davis airport way back when I owned and flew a TriPacer. I seem to
recall seeing a red Kitfox at Davis in possibly 1984, or '85
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| Subject: | Re: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Duane,
Ross used to lurk on the list. He may answer this himself. I doubt it was
his airplane that you saw at Davis in 1984. I think he took delivery of his
Model IV kit about the same time I did in 1993. We visited from time to
time as we built and comes to the Cameron Park Fly-in every year. He is
retired AA as I recall and is a great guy. As a matter of fact our flying
group caused him a little grief one day as the four of us flew into his
place - he grows wine grapes and the fire marshal saw us go in and paid him
a visit shortly thereafter. The marshal got on him for storing his KF in his
barn and I think that was the end of his plans to build a dirt strip near
his home in Suisun. At least that is the way I remembered it. He keeps it
at Nut Tree, has the NSI EA81 in it and I believe is currently working on a
RV-8.
I will have to get in touch with him and get some details.
Well I just did. It is his airplane. He is not a Ham, but his hangar mate
is. That is the connection. This was the first he knew of the picture, but
I am sure his friend will show him the cover.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rueb, Duane" <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:51 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane" <ruebd@skymail.csus.edu>
>
>
> Dave, Jim, Ted:
>
> Now I am wondering if this could be the plane that I saw at
> Davis airport way back when I owned and flew a TriPacer. I seem to
> recall seeing a red Kitfox at Davis in possibly 1984, or '85 at the
> latest, because I know that I sold my TriPacer in 1986, and that was
> after having taken it apart and storing it for a considerable period in
> my barn in Newcastle. Solano is quite close to Davis, and it is
> compelling to think that this might be the airplane that I saw way back
> then, but common sense and how long people keep things dictates against
> it.
> Funny, I have thought of that early sighting of a Kitfox, which
> only now I understand would have had to be one of the first ones. I
> didn't think much of it at the time, and certainly didn't then even
> suspect that I would one day own one of em.
>
> Duane Rueb, N24ZM, KF6GYB
>
>
> -----
>
>
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave and
> Diane
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:19 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave and Diane
> <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
>
> Most recent records show ownership of this aircraft as:
>
> Ross Niffenegger
> 2350 Morrison LN
> Solano, CA 94585
>
> And yes, it has been around a bit
>
> Dave S
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> On Wednesday 12 April 2006 11:16 pm, Ted Palamarek wrote:
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek"
> <temco@telusplanet.net>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> N91KF was the Demo plane that Skystar demonstrated and also used as a
> test
>> bed. Don't know who may own it now. I have a real nice photo of it on
> Full
>> Lotus floats.
>>
>> Ted
>> Edmonton
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Crowder
>> Sent: April 11, 2006 6:37 PM
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover
>>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
>>
>> I was just looking through my April QST which is the ARRL Ham
>> publication and came upon a red Kitfox. It was a full page add for
>> an ARRL publication called "Amateur Radio on the Move." It is a "how
>> to" manual for using Ham radios in mobile installations. The front
>> cover features what I take to be a Model 4 red Kitfox with tail
>> number N91KF. The identification "Kitfox" is prominent on the side
>> of the aircraft. Looking good!
>>
>> Jim Crowder
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Thermostat |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Hi Lynn,
This should work for you too. The basic unit has pipe
thread ports where you put in the fittings you
require. I think it normally comes with hose barbs,
but I didn't get them so that I could screw in AN
fittings.
This one is made for Rotax 912-914's. No instructions
in mine, but the Lockwood cataloge has a picture that
is pretty clear. It is supposed to bypass until 180+
F is reached, then the flow goes to the cooler. Below
180, the flow is just sent back along your cooler
return line as if it had gone thru the cooler. You'll
need 2 more hoses to put it together. Probably add 3
lbs with the hoses and extra oil in them.
That is all the info I have. It is the only one
Lockwood has - page 151 of their catalog.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
> No, Kurt, I didn't get the answer. What model, size
> fittings, etc, is
> yours?...............
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| Subject: | Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Thanks Lowell,
I wanted to fly since the 8th grade. My list of
desired planes developed into the KitFox, the Lancair
4, Staggerwing, and a '63 or 4 Debonaire. Took me
almost 40 years to work up from poverty and buy the
KitFox first. Looks like the '4 will be too expensive
for me to bother with. I can't justify insurance
requirements that high. Still a VW mentality in a
Beemer world I guess. Probably end up with the KF for
bush flying and fun. Something else for cross country
like the RV 10, a Lionheart, etc. Hummm. A Lionheart
on floats? :-)
Kurt S.
Do not archive
--- Lowell Fitt <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Kurt, I think it was Alan Daniels that posted that
> the Lancair IV has a 25% accident record.
> Lots have gone down and a lot
> of people have died in them.......
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| Subject: | off topic - Date time note |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Since the list is pretty quiet....
A puzzler: If you take light and shine it thru a half
silvered mirror so that 1/2 the light is passed thru
and the other 1/2 is reflected off in a different
direction,
And you pass each 1/2 of the light thru polorizing
glasses so that only verticle waves pass from one beam
and only horizontal waves pass thru from the other
beam and,
If you then take the verticle waves and optically turn
them horizontal,
The horizontal beam going off in a completely
different direction will immediately turn verticle!
How does it know?
Kurt S. :-)
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Oil cooler thermostats |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Thanks!
I really don't need it here in Florida, but will need
it for cross countries.
For mine, I need 140 degrees to power up just for
runup before takeoff. Up in KY I had trouble getting
that and only got 140-160 in cruise going to and from
Wisconsin in the fall - OAT 60 degrees. It will come
in handy to remove the water from the oil on those
cool days. As it was, I felt compelled to replace the
oil after that cross country flight due to watery oil.
Kurt S.
--- kitfoxmike <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Kurt,
> You'll love the oil thermostate, the engine warms up
> real fast and maintains between 180 and 200, then
> again I have a big cooler for the oil. you will
> like it on how fast it warms the engine on start up,
> I generally can be ready to go with 100+ oil temp
> with outside temp at 35degree f. in about 5 minutes.
> I also have a battery tenter and I like that as
> well.
>
> --------
> kitfoxmike
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