---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/13/06: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:49 AM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (Bradley M Webb) 2. 04:34 AM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (Fox5flyer) 3. 04:59 AM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (W Duke) 4. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (Bradley M Webb) 5. 08:30 AM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (W Duke) 6. 08:39 AM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (kurt schrader) 7. 08:42 AM - Re: Re: Oil Thermostat (kurt schrader) 8. 12:38 PM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (Lowell Fitt) 9. 03:21 PM - Re: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover (Dave and Diane) 10. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: Oil Thermostat (Lynn Matteson) 11. 03:54 PM - Re: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover (Rueb, Duane) 12. 05:08 PM - Re: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover (ron schick) 13. 05:08 PM - gearbox (Jeff Scovill) 14. 05:27 PM - N91KS- N91KF (ron schick) 15. 05:35 PM - Re: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover (clemwehner) 16. 05:58 PM - Re: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover (Lowell Fitt) 17. 10:21 PM - Re: Re: Oil Thermostat (kurt schrader) 18. 10:31 PM - Re: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan (kurt schrader) 19. 11:16 PM - Re: off topic - Date time note (kurt schrader) 20. 11:22 PM - Re: Oil cooler thermostats (kurt schrader) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:14 AM PST US From: "Bradley M Webb" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" That was actually a KF model 2. That was the HKS Demo plane the talk about on their website. Nice motor, but pricey and not enough hp, especially for a 4. The tail was different, more like the Avid. Mine is squared off, classic KF shape. Started me wondering which tail I've got. The thing that amazed me was the large amount of Lancair 4's there. Makes sense, since it's a long range cross-country airplane. Just seemed to be everywhere. Of course Vans were in force, no surprise. I'd bet Kitfoxes are #2 on the list of most built experimentals, right behind Vans. But since they are not the best CC airplanes, maybe that's why there weren't more at SnF? A trip from the West coast is a major effort in a KF, not so much in a Lancair, or RV7. Bradley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Malcolmbru@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Malcolmbru@aol.com I was riding around in a golf cart and was compelled to offer a guy a ride only to find out he was a kit fox owner also he used Matronics user group and recognized my name and promised to speak up the next time you guy, s made fun of my grammar. The blue KF4 powered by a HKS in UL field was owned buy the owner of a company called green sky adventures. Maker of the micro mong kit. Malcolm Michigan ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:05 AM PST US From: "Fox5flyer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" I don't recall anyone making fun of your grammer Malcolm. I guess I may have missed it when I was on vacation. Next time it happens let me know. Where in Michigan are you located? Deke do not archive > > I was riding around in a golf cart and was compelled to offer a guy a ride > only to find out he was a kit fox owner also he used Matronics user group and > recognized my name and promised to speak up the next time you guy, s made > fun of my grammar. > The blue KF4 powered by a HKS in UL field was owned buy the owner of a > company called green sky adventures. Maker of the micro mong kit. > Malcolm Michigan ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:55 AM PST US From: W Duke Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke I agree with the speed issue wrt presence of KF vs Lancair. Also most Lancairs will be IFR capable making weather less of an issue. When I went to Osh Kosh I took off work the whole week with my planned departure from Osh Kosh being Wednesday in order to have a window that would nearly guarantee decent weather for my return. I do not have my IFR ticket. Maxwell Bradley M Webb wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" That was actually a KF model 2. That was the HKS Demo plane the talk about on their website. Nice motor, but pricey and not enough hp, especially for a 4. The tail was different, more like the Avid. Mine is squared off, classic KF shape. Started me wondering which tail I've got. The thing that amazed me was the large amount of Lancair 4's there. Makes sense, since it's a long range cross-country airplane. Just seemed to be everywhere. Of course Vans were in force, no surprise. I'd bet Kitfoxes are #2 on the list of most built experimentals, right behind Vans. But since they are not the best CC airplanes, maybe that's why there weren't more at SnF? A trip from the West coast is a major effort in a KF, not so much in a Lancair, or RV7. Bradley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Malcolmbru@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Malcolmbru@aol.com I was riding around in a golf cart and was compelled to offer a guy a ride only to find out he was a kit fox owner also he used Matronics user group and recognized my name and promised to speak up the next time you guy, s made fun of my grammar. The blue KF4 powered by a HKS in UL field was owned buy the owner of a company called green sky adventures. Maker of the micro mong kit. Malcolm Michigan --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:59 AM PST US From: "Bradley M Webb" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" True about the IFR. Why wouldn't you IFR one of those beauties? If all goes as planned, I'll be making the trip to Osh, with a neat surprise for you all. I'll need to do what you did, to leave enough window for wx. Bradley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of W Duke Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:57 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke I agree with the speed issue wrt presence of KF vs Lancair. Also most Lancairs will be IFR capable making weather less of an issue. When I went to Osh Kosh I took off work the whole week with my planned departure from Osh Kosh being Wednesday in order to have a window that would nearly guarantee decent weather for my return. I do not have my IFR ticket. Maxwell Bradley M Webb wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" That was actually a KF model 2. That was the HKS Demo plane the talk about on their website. Nice motor, but pricey and not enough hp, especially for a 4. The tail was different, more like the Avid. Mine is squared off, classic KF shape. Started me wondering which tail I've got. The thing that amazed me was the large amount of Lancair 4's there. Makes sense, since it's a long range cross-country airplane. Just seemed to be everywhere. Of course Vans were in force, no surprise. I'd bet Kitfoxes are #2 on the list of most built experimentals, right behind Vans. But since they are not the best CC airplanes, maybe that's why there weren't more at SnF? A trip from the West coast is a major effort in a KF, not so much in a Lancair, or RV7. Bradley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Malcolmbru@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Malcolmbru@aol.com I was riding around in a golf cart and was compelled to offer a guy a ride only to find out he was a kit fox owner also he used Matronics user group and recognized my name and promised to speak up the next time you guy, s made fun of my grammar. The blue KF4 powered by a HKS in UL field was owned buy the owner of a company called green sky adventures. Maker of the micro mong kit. Malcolm Michigan --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:56 AM PST US From: W Duke Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke Actually I did. The plane is IFR, the pilot is not. I plan to do my IFR training in it when I get time. do not archive Maxwell Bradley M Webb wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" True about the IFR. Why wouldn't you IFR one of those beauties? If all goes as planned, I'll be making the trip to Osh, with a neat surprise for you all. I'll need to do what you did, to leave enough window for wx. Bradley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of W Duke Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:57 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke I agree with the speed issue wrt presence of KF vs Lancair. Also most Lancairs will be IFR capable making weather less of an issue. When I went to Osh Kosh I took off work the whole week with my planned departure from Osh Kosh being Wednesday in order to have a window that would nearly guarantee decent weather for my return. I do not have my IFR ticket. Maxwell Bradley M Webb wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" That was actually a KF model 2. That was the HKS Demo plane the talk about on their website. Nice motor, but pricey and not enough hp, especially for a 4. The tail was different, more like the Avid. Mine is squared off, classic KF shape. Started me wondering which tail I've got. The thing that amazed me was the large amount of Lancair 4's there. Makes sense, since it's a long range cross-country airplane. Just seemed to be everywhere. Of course Vans were in force, no surprise. I'd bet Kitfoxes are #2 on the list of most built experimentals, right behind Vans. But since they are not the best CC airplanes, maybe that's why there weren't more at SnF? A trip from the West coast is a major effort in a KF, not so much in a Lancair, or RV7. Bradley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Malcolmbru@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Malcolmbru@aol.com I was riding around in a golf cart and was compelled to offer a guy a ride only to find out he was a kit fox owner also he used Matronics user group and recognized my name and promised to speak up the next time you guy, s made fun of my grammar. The blue KF4 powered by a HKS in UL field was owned buy the owner of a company called green sky adventures. Maker of the micro mong kit. Malcolm Michigan --------------------------------- --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:44 AM PST US From: kurt schrader Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader While at S&F I talked to the insurance guys and asked a few questions, amoung them, how much to ensure a Lancair 4. Only Falcon would insure a 4 these days, and when I mentioned knowing someone who paid $18,000 per year for his, the Falcon rep didn't blink. We got into a few details and I was told that too many low time pilots were flying the 4's and crashing. Now Falcon required retraining every 6 months before continuing insurance on the 4's. So if you think a taildragger KF is a problem, or your insurance is too high, be glad you are not flying a Lancair 4. You could fly first class a lot cheaper. Kurt S. KF-5 :-) --- Bradley M Webb wrote: .................. > The thing that amazed me was the large amount of > Lancair 4's there. Makes > sense, since it's a long range cross-country > airplane............ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:16 AM PST US From: kurt schrader Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil Thermostat --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader Lynn, I think you got the answer, but just in case, mine was from Lockwood. I saved $10 by not getting the hose barbs with it since I will be using the compression fittings. Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo --- Lynn Matteson wrote: > Where did you get your oil thermostat? ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:38:39 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Kurt, I think it was Alan Daniels that posted that the Lancair IV has a 25% accident record. Lots have gone down and a lot of people have died in them. The Lancair factory has a program in concert with an insurance company that if followed will reduce the insurance significantly - down below $10,000. Still if I had that kind of money in addition to gas and everything else, I would just pick up another Kitfox or two or maybe just foy the big bird around the country to meet some of you. The program is essentially as you mentioned. Extensive checkout with a factory authorized instructor and regular recurrent training. On the project across the street, we closed out the fuselage Friday, yesterday we closed the door and today we are installing door hinges etc. It is an interesting project, but I am not really excited to fly in it. we'll see. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "kurt schrader" Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 8:39 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > > > While at S&F I talked to the insurance guys and asked > a few questions, amoung them, how much to ensure a > Lancair 4. Only Falcon would insure a 4 these days, > and when I mentioned knowing someone who paid $18,000 > per year for his, the Falcon rep didn't blink. We got > into a few details and I was told that too many low > time pilots were flying the 4's and crashing. Now > Falcon required retraining every 6 months before > continuing insurance on the 4's. > > So if you think a taildragger KF is a problem, or your > insurance is too high, be glad you are not flying a > Lancair 4. You could fly first class a lot cheaper. > > Kurt S. KF-5 :-) > > --- Bradley M Webb wrote: > > .................. >> The thing that amazed me was the large amount of >> Lancair 4's there. Makes >> sense, since it's a long range cross-country >> airplane............ > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:21:18 PM PST US From: Dave and Diane Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave and Diane Most recent records show ownership of this aircraft as: Ross Niffenegger 2350 Morrison LN Solano, CA 94585 And yes, it has been around a bit Dave S Do Not Archive On Wednesday 12 April 2006 11:16 pm, Ted Palamarek wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" > > Jim > > N91KF was the Demo plane that Skystar demonstrated and also used as a test > bed. Don't know who may own it now. I have a real nice photo of it on Full > Lotus floats. > > Ted > Edmonton > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Crowder > Sent: April 11, 2006 6:37 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder > > I was just looking through my April QST which is the ARRL Ham > publication and came upon a red Kitfox. It was a full page add for > an ARRL publication called "Amateur Radio on the Move." It is a "how > to" manual for using Ham radios in mobile installations. The front > cover features what I take to be a Model 4 red Kitfox with tail > number N91KF. The identification "Kitfox" is prominent on the side > of the aircraft. Looking good! > > Jim Crowder > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:34:53 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil Thermostat From: Lynn Matteson --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson No, Kurt, I didn't get the answer. What model, size fittings, etc, is yours? My Jabiru engine uses AN6 size fittings....I just by-passed the oil cooler because the temps weren't coming up, but may soon have to go back to the cooler, as the weather warms up. Does the oil thermostat completely block the flow of oil when the temp is cool? I hope not because my set-up is out of an oil filter adapter, through the oil cooler (or in my case right now, by-passing the cooler), then back through the oil filter adapter. Lynn Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200 On Thursday, April 13, 2006, at 11:41 AM, kurt schrader wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > > > Lynn, > > I think you got the answer, but just in case, mine was > from Lockwood. I saved $10 by not getting the hose > barbs with it since I will be using the compression > fittings. > > Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo > > --- Lynn Matteson wrote: > >> Where did you get your oil thermostat? > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:54:17 PM PST US Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover From: "Rueb, Duane" --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane" Dave, Jim, Ted: Now I am wondering if this could be the plane that I saw at Davis airport way back when I owned and flew a TriPacer. I seem to recall seeing a red Kitfox at Davis in possibly 1984, or '85 at the latest, because I know that I sold my TriPacer in 1986, and that was after having taken it apart and storing it for a considerable period in my barn in Newcastle. Solano is quite close to Davis, and it is compelling to think that this might be the airplane that I saw way back then, but common sense and how long people keep things dictates against it. Funny, I have thought of that early sighting of a Kitfox, which only now I understand would have had to be one of the first ones. I didn't think much of it at the time, and certainly didn't then even suspect that I would one day own one of em. Duane Rueb, N24ZM, KF6GYB ----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave and Diane Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:19 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave and Diane Most recent records show ownership of this aircraft as: Ross Niffenegger 2350 Morrison LN Solano, CA 94585 And yes, it has been around a bit Dave S Do Not Archive On Wednesday 12 April 2006 11:16 pm, Ted Palamarek wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" > > Jim > > N91KF was the Demo plane that Skystar demonstrated and also used as a test > bed. Don't know who may own it now. I have a real nice photo of it on Full > Lotus floats. > > Ted > Edmonton > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Crowder > Sent: April 11, 2006 6:37 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder > > I was just looking through my April QST which is the ARRL Ham > publication and came upon a red Kitfox. It was a full page add for > an ARRL publication called "Amateur Radio on the Move." It is a "how > to" manual for using Ham radios in mobile installations. The front > cover features what I take to be a Model 4 red Kitfox with tail > number N91KF. The identification "Kitfox" is prominent on the side > of the aircraft. Looking good! > > Jim Crowder > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:08:26 PM PST US From: "ron schick" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" Google the n number. Faa records show ownership and former owner. Exported to Japan. Ron NB Ore >From: Dave and Diane >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover >Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:18:54 -0500 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave and Diane > >Most recent records show ownership of this aircraft as: > >Ross Niffenegger >2350 Morrison LN >Solano, CA 94585 > >And yes, it has been around a bit > >Dave S > >Do Not Archive > >On Wednesday 12 April 2006 11:16 pm, Ted Palamarek wrote: > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" > > > > > Jim > > > > N91KF was the Demo plane that Skystar demonstrated and also used as a >test > > bed. Don't know who may own it now. I have a real nice photo of it on >Full > > Lotus floats. > > > > Ted > > Edmonton > > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Crowder > > Sent: April 11, 2006 6:37 PM > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder > > > > I was just looking through my April QST which is the ARRL Ham > > publication and came upon a red Kitfox. It was a full page add for > > an ARRL publication called "Amateur Radio on the Move." It is a "how > > to" manual for using Ham radios in mobile installations. The front > > cover features what I take to be a Model 4 red Kitfox with tail > > number N91KF. The identification "Kitfox" is prominent on the side > > of the aircraft. Looking good! > > > > Jim Crowder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:08:26 PM PST US From: "Jeff Scovill" Subject: Kitfox-List: gearbox --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeff Scovill" Hello All Is it possible to put a gear box on a kf1 ,even tho the horizontal stabilizer is off set the wrong way? Thanks Jeff ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:27:41 PM PST US From: "ron schick" Subject: Kitfox-List: N91KS- N91KF --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" Google shows N91KS and N91KF both deregistered and exported. One went to Japan and the other to South Africa. N91KS is the Skystar Speedster from their old website. I have the photo saved as my desktop on both of my computers. Ron NB Or N541KF Speedster ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:35:12 PM PST US From: "clemwehner" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "clemwehner" I took dozens of photos of N1KF in July 1991 at an airshow in Oklahoma City. I subsequently ordered my KF-IV in October 1991. One of the pictures I have is of the data plate which was mounted on the firewall just behind the right rudder pedals. The data plate shows that N1KF was a Kitfox Model IV-1050 manufactured by Denney Aerocraft on 20 March 1991. You've seen it in lots of advertising pictures including with floats. It had droop tips and a 912 engine. It was used as the demonstrator and made lots of airshows until N1KS (the first speedster)came out. Cheers, Clem Lawton, OK KF-IV-912 -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rueb, Duane Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:52 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane" Now I am wondering if this could be the plane that I saw at Davis airport way back when I owned and flew a TriPacer. I seem to recall seeing a red Kitfox at Davis in possibly 1984, or '85 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:33 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Duane, Ross used to lurk on the list. He may answer this himself. I doubt it was his airplane that you saw at Davis in 1984. I think he took delivery of his Model IV kit about the same time I did in 1993. We visited from time to time as we built and comes to the Cameron Park Fly-in every year. He is retired AA as I recall and is a great guy. As a matter of fact our flying group caused him a little grief one day as the four of us flew into his place - he grows wine grapes and the fire marshal saw us go in and paid him a visit shortly thereafter. The marshal got on him for storing his KF in his barn and I think that was the end of his plans to build a dirt strip near his home in Suisun. At least that is the way I remembered it. He keeps it at Nut Tree, has the NSI EA81 in it and I believe is currently working on a RV-8. I will have to get in touch with him and get some details. Well I just did. It is his airplane. He is not a Ham, but his hangar mate is. That is the connection. This was the first he knew of the picture, but I am sure his friend will show him the cover. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rueb, Duane" Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:51 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rueb, Duane" > > > Dave, Jim, Ted: > > Now I am wondering if this could be the plane that I saw at > Davis airport way back when I owned and flew a TriPacer. I seem to > recall seeing a red Kitfox at Davis in possibly 1984, or '85 at the > latest, because I know that I sold my TriPacer in 1986, and that was > after having taken it apart and storing it for a considerable period in > my barn in Newcastle. Solano is quite close to Davis, and it is > compelling to think that this might be the airplane that I saw way back > then, but common sense and how long people keep things dictates against > it. > Funny, I have thought of that early sighting of a Kitfox, which > only now I understand would have had to be one of the first ones. I > didn't think much of it at the time, and certainly didn't then even > suspect that I would one day own one of em. > > Duane Rueb, N24ZM, KF6GYB > > > ----- > > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave and > Diane > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:19 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave and Diane > > > Most recent records show ownership of this aircraft as: > > Ross Niffenegger > 2350 Morrison LN > Solano, CA 94585 > > And yes, it has been around a bit > > Dave S > > Do Not Archive > > On Wednesday 12 April 2006 11:16 pm, Ted Palamarek wrote: >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" > >> >> Jim >> >> N91KF was the Demo plane that Skystar demonstrated and also used as a > test >> bed. Don't know who may own it now. I have a real nice photo of it on > Full >> Lotus floats. >> >> Ted >> Edmonton >> >> DO NOT ARCHIVE >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim > Crowder >> Sent: April 11, 2006 6:37 PM >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Ham Publication Features Kitfox on Cover >> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder >> >> I was just looking through my April QST which is the ARRL Ham >> publication and came upon a red Kitfox. It was a full page add for >> an ARRL publication called "Amateur Radio on the Move." It is a "how >> to" manual for using Ham radios in mobile installations. The front >> cover features what I take to be a Model 4 red Kitfox with tail >> number N91KF. The identification "Kitfox" is prominent on the side >> of the aircraft. Looking good! >> >> Jim Crowder >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:21:14 PM PST US From: kurt schrader Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oil Thermostat --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader Hi Lynn, This should work for you too. The basic unit has pipe thread ports where you put in the fittings you require. I think it normally comes with hose barbs, but I didn't get them so that I could screw in AN fittings. This one is made for Rotax 912-914's. No instructions in mine, but the Lockwood cataloge has a picture that is pretty clear. It is supposed to bypass until 180+ F is reached, then the flow goes to the cooler. Below 180, the flow is just sent back along your cooler return line as if it had gone thru the cooler. You'll need 2 more hoses to put it together. Probably add 3 lbs with the hoses and extra oil in them. That is all the info I have. It is the only one Lockwood has - page 151 of their catalog. Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo --- Lynn Matteson wrote: > No, Kurt, I didn't get the answer. What model, size > fittings, etc, is > yours?............... ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:31:50 PM PST US From: kurt schrader Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader Thanks Lowell, I wanted to fly since the 8th grade. My list of desired planes developed into the KitFox, the Lancair 4, Staggerwing, and a '63 or 4 Debonaire. Took me almost 40 years to work up from poverty and buy the KitFox first. Looks like the '4 will be too expensive for me to bother with. I can't justify insurance requirements that high. Still a VW mentality in a Beemer world I guess. Probably end up with the KF for bush flying and fun. Something else for cross country like the RV 10, a Lionheart, etc. Hummm. A Lionheart on floats? :-) Kurt S. Do not archive --- Lowell Fitt wrote: > Kurt, I think it was Alan Daniels that posted that > the Lancair IV has a 25% accident record. > Lots have gone down and a lot > of people have died in them....... ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:16:53 PM PST US From: kurt schrader Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: off topic - Date time note --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader Since the list is pretty quiet.... A puzzler: If you take light and shine it thru a half silvered mirror so that 1/2 the light is passed thru and the other 1/2 is reflected off in a different direction, And you pass each 1/2 of the light thru polorizing glasses so that only verticle waves pass from one beam and only horizontal waves pass thru from the other beam and, If you then take the verticle waves and optically turn them horizontal, The horizontal beam going off in a completely different direction will immediately turn verticle! How does it know? Kurt S. :-) Do not archive ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 11:22:41 PM PST US From: kurt schrader Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oil cooler thermostats --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader Thanks! I really don't need it here in Florida, but will need it for cross countries. For mine, I need 140 degrees to power up just for runup before takeoff. Up in KY I had trouble getting that and only got 140-160 in cruise going to and from Wisconsin in the fall - OAT 60 degrees. It will come in handy to remove the water from the oil on those cool days. As it was, I felt compelled to replace the oil after that cross country flight due to watery oil. Kurt S. --- kitfoxmike wrote: > Kurt, > You'll love the oil thermostate, the engine warms up > real fast and maintains between 180 and 200, then > again I have a big cooler for the oil. you will > like it on how fast it warms the engine on start up, > I generally can be ready to go with 100+ oil temp > with outside temp at 35degree f. in about 5 minutes. > I also have a battery tenter and I like that as > well. > > -------- > kitfoxmike