Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Sun 04/23/06


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:43 AM - Re: off topic - Date time note (Michel Verheughe)
     2. 09:23 AM - Odyssey Battery (Donald STEVENSON)
     3. 09:53 AM - Re: Odyssey Battery (Michel Verheughe)
     4. 04:13 PM - Re: Odyssey Battery (Randy Daughenbaugh)
     5. 04:13 PM - Re: Odyssey Battery (Fred Shiple)
     6. 04:23 PM - Useful Load (Blueraven)
     7. 05:03 PM - Re: NSI Ignition Isolation Unit (Peter Graichen)
     8. 09:11 PM - Interesting day at the airstrip (Lynn Matteson)
     9. 09:34 PM - Safety Wire (Guy Buchanan)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:43:19 AM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: off topic - Date time note
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:26 AM, david yeamans wrote: > concequently, their language out side the monkey jungle had no value. I beg to differ, my friend. While definitively "outside my league" this exchange of ideas between Al, Kurt and others, is certainly interesting (although off-topic Kitfox, of course). While it will not change our everyday's life, it is a honour we do to our brain, to use it in any thinkable way, even if it hurts. No pain, no gain, right? Personally, I strongly feel that the mystery of the universe is somewhat easy to explain in a global concept. Only that we can't "see" it because our brain has, through evolution, been optimised for other tasks like, finding food, finding a mate, surviving. I think that talking about the "four spacial dimensions" on the internet and share it with people on different continents is already a feast of intelligence we can be proud of. It is much better than prejudice, bigotry and ethnocentrism. Won't you agree? Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 09:23:13 AM PST US
    From: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
    Subject: Odyssey Battery
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com> I have noticed on the list from time to time that some people are using Odyssey batteries in their K/F. Can anyone tell me what model they have, and does it fit the M4 battery box? also is the higher charge rate a problem? Thanks, Don Don Stevenson M4/1200-912 Caledon, Ontario, Canada


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    Time: 09:53:40 AM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: Odyssey Battery
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Hello Don, When I changed my ageing 582 for a Jabiru 2200, one year ago, I was told that I needed a stronger battery and I was recommended the Odyssey PC 680. It wouldn't fit the battery box on the firewall of my model 3 but I found a smart place for it, right behind the seats. I also need to slightly move my CG because the Jabiru (with oil cooler, heatbox, etc) was slightly heavier than the 582. It did the trick! I am very pleased with the battery. I spins my engine to the required 300 RPM even at sub-zero OAT. Note that since it is a dry cell battery, you can install in in any way you want. A battery box is not necessary as it will never leak. Cheers, Michel


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    Time: 04:13:26 PM PST US
    From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
    Subject: Odyssey Battery
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> Don, I am having great luck with an Odessy PC 625 on my 912S. I think the coldest that I have started it was about 15 F. Works reall well. I got the recommendations from this list. Like Michel says, it doesn't need a box and can be mounted in any position. I just strapped it to the firewall with some SS straps. Randy . -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donald STEVENSON Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:19 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Odyssey Battery --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com> I have noticed on the list from time to time that some people are using Odyssey batteries in their K/F. Can anyone tell me what model they have, and does it fit the M4 battery box? also is the higher charge rate a problem? Thanks, Don Don Stevenson M4/1200-912 Caledon, Ontario, Canada


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    Time: 04:13:26 PM PST US
    From: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Odyssey Battery
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net> You might try Powersonic (#12180NB) for $31 -has served me well for 3 years. Fred


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    Time: 04:23:38 PM PST US
    From: Blueraven <bluedog@ak.net>
    Subject: Useful Load
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Blueraven <bluedog@ak.net> Does anyone know what kit has the most useful load on floats and how many lbs it is? thanks WRH =================


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    Time: 05:03:58 PM PST US
    From: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
    Cc: <szakreski@shaw.ca>
    Subject: NSI Ignition Isolation Unit
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com> -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Zakreski Sent: Friday, 21 April, 2006 21:13 Cc: Steve Zakreski Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Ignition Isolation Unit --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca> Peter Here's a thought: Would you consider organizing a cooperative effort whereby we get some number of people (say 20 people) to send you $200, and you make as many as you can for the $4000 and hold them in stock. You could then sell them for $450 to the stakeholders for as long as they lasted. In other words, the $200 gives the stakeholders the peace of mind they have access to the modules if needed. If you sell all the modules, you have the money to go out and make a bunch more. If you or nobody else wanted to, I would volunteer to hold them in my companies Parts Store as parts inventory if you didn't want to. Some details still to figure out, but you get my drift. SteveZ Calgary Hello Steve: Thanks for your above reply. I appreciate the thought and suggestion and I gave it a couple of days of consideration. However, I am an old-fashioned guy; I design, produce and sell, cash on the barrel head; have done business that way all my life and I don't want to change now. Please let my know if you are still interested. By the way, I have posted a photo of my ignition isolation unit on my web site, under photo gallery, last row. Peter Graichen http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm


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    Time: 09:11:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Interesting day at the airstrip
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> My test pilot had an interesting day flying today, and was lucky enough to bring it home safely. He encountered a smell, like heated rubber, or paint burning, while flying at about 2000' over the airfield. He landed, we looked, and found nothing amiss. Thinking it was probably the muffler losing its' "virginity" after 18 hours, he went up again, flew some more and landed...no problem, we thought. Later on, he noticed lack of power on takeoff, and aborted. I saw that the EGT span was over 600 degrees F, and rising. This related to a lost cylinder in my book. I switched the EIS to read all four exhaust gas temps, and found that cyl. #4 on my Jabiru 2200 was the low one. Removing the cowl we found 3 spark plug wires had come out of the distributor caps...2 wires to #4, and one wire to another plug on the other cap (2 distributor caps on the Jabiru). We plugged them back in, and all was well again. He took off, and flew for another little while, then put the plane away. Sitting back and thinking things over, I noticed one "tail" pipe out of the muffler was missing. Pulling the upper and lower cowling revealed that the exhaust heat was hitting the lower tubes of the engine mount, cooking the paint off, and also had burned the outer layer of rubber off the fire sleeve protecting the fuel supply to the engine's mechanical fuel pump...this was at the firewall pass-through fitting. When the new muffler is replaced, I will build a protective shield to protect any future exhaust failures, as well as reinforced tubing junctures, and a better hanging system to support any weight that might be subject to vibration and subsequent failures. I don't think that either incident had any bearing on the other, but in retrospect, we should have pulled both cowls and given it a closer going over...I damn sure will next time, and I'm happy to report that there will be a next time. This could have been a "bad day at Black Rock" Lynn Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200


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    Time: 09:34:27 PM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Safety Wire
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> All, I'm trying to find out what needs to be safety wired. I'm running a KIV-1200 with 582 C box. Right now the only things safety wired are the prop and the gearbox fills and drains. I remember seeing race cars with literally everything safety wired. I checked AC 43-13 and though it told me how to safety wire, it didn't say what. (It does, though, show how to safety AN fittings. Should I safety all fuel connections?) Thanks, Guy Buchanan K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.




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