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1. 04:17 AM - Re: Im that guy (Mike Chaney)
2. 04:54 AM - Model 2 Fiberglass wing tanks - what resin? (Bradley M Webb)
3. 05:37 AM - Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot (Algate)
4. 06:01 AM - SV: Model 2 Fiberglass wing tanks - what resin? (Michel Verheughe)
5. 06:08 AM - Re: Model 2 Fiberglass wing tanks - what resin? (Bradley M Webb)
6. 07:06 AM - kitfox V for sale (Bob Holiday)
7. 07:06 AM - SV: Model 2 Fiberglass wing tanks - what resin? (Michel Verheughe)
8. 07:37 AM - Jabiru (Algate)
9. 07:52 AM - Hangar Door (Randy Daughenbaugh)
10. 10:11 AM - Re: Model 5 parts (ron schick)
11. 10:48 AM - Re: Jabiru (Michel Verheughe)
12. 11:04 AM - Houston-area Kitfoxers? (Andrew Matthaey)
13. 11:28 AM - Re: Model 2 Fiberglass wing tanks - what resin? (Guy Buchanan)
14. 11:41 AM - Re: Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot (Sid Hausding)
15. 12:14 PM - Re: Jabiru (Algate)
16. 01:11 PM - Re: Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot (QSS)
17. 01:25 PM - Re: Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot (Algate)
18. 01:35 PM - Re: Dynon Horizon (kurt schrader)
19. 01:40 PM - Grounding of fuel tanks (Donald STEVENSON)
20. 01:40 PM - Grounding of fuel tanks (Donald STEVENSON)
21. 01:42 PM - Re: Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot (Donald STEVENSON)
22. 01:49 PM - Re: Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot (Algate)
23. 02:53 PM - Re: Grounding of fuel tanks (kurt schrader)
24. 03:01 PM - Re: off topic - Politics. (kurt schrader)
25. 03:07 PM - Re: Overheating (kurt schrader)
26. 03:24 PM - Re: Grounding of fuel tanks (PWilson)
27. 04:42 PM - Re: Grounding of fuel tanks (Lynn Matteson)
28. 05:55 PM - Re: Michigan Flyin (Kevin Cozik)
29. 06:16 PM - Re: Model 5 parts (wingsdown)
30. 06:17 PM - Re: Overheating (wingsdown)
31. 06:57 PM - Re: Houston-area Kitfoxers? (flier)
32. 07:32 PM - Kitfox Aircraft (jdmcbean)
33. 08:04 PM - KITFOX Aircraft LLC (Dee Young)
34. 08:23 PM - Looking for list member - AWO Arlington, WA area (Richard Rabbers)
35. 09:08 PM - Re: Kitfox Aircraft (Bruce Harrington)
36. 09:16 PM - Re: Kitfox Aircraft (Guy Buchanan)
37. 09:16 PM - Re: Grounding of fuel tanks (Guy Buchanan)
38. 09:27 PM - Re: Looking for list member - AWO Arlington, WA area (Don Pearsall)
39. 09:37 PM - Re: Kitfox Aircraft (Don Pearsall)
40. 09:58 PM - Re: Considering selling my 912 powered Model IV (debrun26@juno.com)
41. 09:59 PM - Re: Overheating (John Anderson)
42. 10:27 PM - Re: Looking for list member - AWO Arlington, WA area (Richard Rabbers)
43. 10:57 PM - Re: Looking for list member - AWO Arlington, WA area (kurt schrader)
44. 10:59 PM - Re: Kitfox Aircraft (kurt schrader)
45. 11:55 PM - Tree Top Flyer for Sale? (Andrew Matthaey)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Chaney <mdps_mc@SWOCA.NET>
Ken
I wondered what happened to you. If I remember correctly your paint job has
the large arrows on the wings?
Mike Chaney
I was determined not to be that guy. I really didnt want to be that guy.
There was no way I was going to be that guy. Im that guy. I bought my
Kitfox Classic IV at Oshkosh about 10 years ago. Ive been working on it
ever since.
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| Subject: | Model 2 Fiberglass wing tanks - what resin? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
Does anyone know what resin was used to make up the fiberglass fuel tanks?
Mine was built in 1991, and has one 6 gallon left tank and a13 gallon right
tank. I would like to fix/repair/mangle the right tank. Are they made from
epoxy or polyester resin? They're brown in color, but that may be the cloth.
The resin looks to be very clear.
Thanks,
Bradley
N1836
Middle Georgia
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| Subject: | Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Colin
I am an Australian Ex-Pat living in Canada and am considering returning home
to Adelaide after 13 years in Canada. Can you help me re registration and
operation of my Kitfox in Australia.
Are there any issues that you are aware of that would present problems in
registering/operating a Model 4 under the Ultralight rules?
Please contact me off list if you can assist me algate@attglobal.net
Best regards
Gary Algate
President
SDS Canada Inc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin Durey
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:06 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Windscreen fitting - Thanks!
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey" <colin@ptclhk.com>
Thanks to all for your responses re fitting the windscreen. I have put it
to the side for a few days while I attend to a few other bits. Re the warm
days suggestions... Sydney is in the Southern Hemisphere (much further
south than Gaeme who can go swimming with his Fox at any time of year) and
the warm days are behind us for a while so, the heat gun looks like the
only option at the moment.
Thanks again.. This list is the greatest.
Regards
Colin Durey
Sydney
+61-418-677073 (M)
+61-2-945466162 (F)
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| Subject: | Model 2 Fiberglass wing tanks - what resin? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Bradley M Webb [bmwebb@cox.net]
> Does anyone know what resin was used to make up the fiberglass fuel tanks?
I don't have any data at hand, Bradley, but I am 90% sure it's polyester. In any
case, repairs can (and should, in my opinion) be made with epoxy. They bond
very well together. Trust me, my cowling is half polyester and half epoxy!
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Model 2 Fiberglass wing tanks - what resin? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
Really!? I was under the impression that you had to repair with the original
material.
I thought it was polyester, but wanted to make sure. I can get either one,
just wanted to know which one.
Why do you recommend epoxy?
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:59 AM
Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: Model 2 Fiberglass wing tanks - what resin?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Bradley M Webb [bmwebb@cox.net]
> Does anyone know what resin was used to make up the fiberglass fuel tanks?
I don't have any data at hand, Bradley, but I am 90% sure it's polyester. In
any case, repairs can (and should, in my opinion) be made with epoxy. They
bond very well together. Trust me, my cowling is half polyester and half
epoxy!
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | kitfox V for sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Bob Holiday <moto123@sbcglobal.net>
I have a Kitfox V for sale with all the options. SHO 118 HP EA 81 engine with CAP
140 prop. Spring gear, Clevelands,Scott, Removable wing tips. King KLX 135A
GPS/Com, King transponder. Under 300 hrs TTAF&E. Never damaged. Nice professional
paint job. Always draws a crowd at the fuel pumps. Ready to fly. Can deliver
east of the rockies. Bob Holliday. Wichita. 316-641-6178.
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| Subject: | Model 2 Fiberglass wing tanks - what resin? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Bradley M Webb [bmwebb@cox.net]
> Why do you recommend epoxy?
Well ... all the GRP (glass reinforced plastic) yachts are built in glassfiber
and polyester. And all GRP hull repair kits are ... epoxy. The latter is much
more pleasant to work with since it is odourless and doesnt't release toxic styren
gas as polyester does. But epoxy is more expensive than polyester. I guess
if price was not an issue, yachts would be built in epoxy and ... carbon fiber!
Epoxy is also more watertight. That's why many yacht owners coat their hull, under
the waterline, with epoxy. When I was designing yachts, we used to add about
2% of the weight as "water absorbtion" of the hull, to find the final displacement,
or total mass of the vessel.
Cheers,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Michael,
I was talking with a gentleman that had a Model 4 for sale complete with
Jabiru 80Hp engine. He told me that he cruises at 2,900 rpm 5 galls/hr (imp)
at 85mph.
Do you have similar figures with your Kitfox as I was a little surprise by
this as I achieve around the same with a 583. (Albeit not with the same low
rpm, noise level and TBO)
Regards
Gary Algate
Lite2/582
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
For those interested, there are pictures for viewing of my installation of
the Ultimate Door on my hangar. Don put them up on Sport Flight under
"Gotta Haves".
I feel this is a great door and it can be built very reasonably.
Randy
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Rick as I was testing my electronics installations your old hobbs clicked
past 666 hours. Glad I was on the ground for that one. Ron NB Ore
do not archive
>From: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
>To: "Kitfox" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 5 parts
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:16:14 -0700
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
>
>I had told a couple of folks the E.I. internal shunt digital Volt Amp
>meter was sold. This is the one with over and under voltage indication.
>The buyer who said he wanted it has backed out of the deal. Guess I
>should wait until I get the payment in the future. This is the first one
>that went that way so guess I will continue as before. Anyway, its back
>on the market for 200 plus shipping. Very nice instrument. I also have
>two E.I. digital EGTs instruments, no probes.
>The flapperons, horizontal stabilizer, new piston set, and turbo are
>sold as well. Special thanks to all that have kept there word on all
>the many items that have left my hangar and my life.
>
>Rick
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Apr 28, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Algate wrote:
> Do you have similar figures with your Kitfox as I was a little
> surprise by
> this as I achieve around the same with a 583.
Well, it's difficult to say,Gary, because I am not good at numbers. I
know that e.g. my ASI is somewhat 5 MPH over the real speed, when I
compare with the GPS. But then, compensating for the wind, etc. I am
not accurate, it's more a feeling.
Anyway, at 2,900 RPM, I would reach, if not exceed my Vne on my model
3, which is 100 MPH. I usually cruise at 2,600 to 2,700 RPM, which
gives me something like 85 MPH. Since I also had a 582 before, I can
definitively say that the Jabiru engine gives more power than the
Rotax. But I think the question may be in the choice of a propeller.
I have a Jabiru two-bladed fixed-pitch wooden prop of 60 by 38 inches.
My static RPM at WOT is 2,900 and, at level flight: 3,000. I have never
reached anything near the rated 3,300. But I have been told that my
figures are good for a cruising propeller. I think you should ask your
gentleman friend what is his static RPM. I am pretty much sure that it
is higher than mine. If I understand this correctly, from reading the
Jabiru list, he has then a good climbing prop. Which is nice on short
fields. But I have 2,500 ft of asphalt to take off from. So, I am much
better with my slightly higher pitched prop with a nice and economical
lower cruising RPM. Actually, if I just fly around, sight-seeing with a
passenger, I hardly go over 2,400. Why burn much fuel?
From my trip to Belgium, last summer, I calculated my consumption to
be about 14 liters per hour. Since then, I have adjusted the carb
needle one step down (as instructed at 50 hours) and I should burn even
less. But then, again, numbers and statistics are not really my cup of
tea. All I know is that I am very pleased with the Jabiru, it served me
well during the 115 hours I have had it, summer as winter. Never a
problem to start it, even in sub-zero temperature. And yes, it is
incredibly smooth running, compared to the 582.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Houston-area Kitfoxers? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Hello list,
I'm in Houston for a couple weeks (training with ExpressJet), and I'd love
to meet up with some fellow Kitfoxers (I'm missing my Kitfox pretty bad
LoL). I'm staying at the Holiday Inn (IAH) and have the weekend free, as
well as every morning next week. Email me, I'd love to hear from somebody!
Andrew
KF3
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| Subject: | Model 2 Fiberglass wing tanks - what resin? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 06:08 AM 4/28/2006, you wrote:
>Really!? I was under the impression that you had to repair with the original
>material.
>
>I thought it was polyester, but wanted to make sure. I can get either one,
>just wanted to know which one.
>
>Why do you recommend epoxy?
Michel's right. Even if the original tanks were polyester, (they were
probably vinylester, similar,) you should do modifications with epoxy.
Beyond the obvious handling benefits, polyester offers a really poor
mechanical bond, which is all that's available now that everything's cured.
The only way you would use polyester would be to make a completely separate
part and bond it to the original with acrylic or epoxy adhesive. Then you'd
be fine. Otherwise, if you want to bond directly to the original polyester
part you should use some epoxy with good adhesive properties.
Guy
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| Subject: | Re: Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Sid Hausding <avidsid@yahoo.com>
Gary,
Get on the Avid list at Yahoogroups.com and ask for Alan Aaron..........he just
took his Avid back to Australia and can fill you in on the procedure and paperwork.
I'm sure it was registered in California before he crated and shipped
back....... aaaron@tvp.com.au I do believe this is his current email, but
he monitors the Avid list if this won't work.
Sid
-----------------------------
Algate <algate@attglobal.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate"
Colin
I am an Australian Ex-Pat living in Canada and am considering returning home
to Adelaide after 13 years in Canada. Can you help me re registration and
operation of my Kitfox in Australia.
Are there any issues that you are aware of that would present problems in
registering/operating a Model 4 under the Ultralight rules?
Please contact me off list if you can assist me algate@attglobal.net
Best regards
Gary Algate
President
SDS Canada Inc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin Durey
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:06 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Windscreen fitting - Thanks!
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey"
Thanks to all for your responses re fitting the windscreen. I have put it
to the side for a few days while I attend to a few other bits. Re the warm
days suggestions... Sydney is in the Southern Hemisphere (much further
south than Gaeme who can go swimming with his Fox at any time of year) and
the warm days are behind us for a while so, the heat gun looks like the
only option at the moment.
Thanks again.. This list is the greatest.
Regards
Colin Durey
Sydney
+61-418-677073 (M)
+61-2-945466162 (F)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Thanks Michel
Gary Algate
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Jabiru
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Apr 28, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Algate wrote:
> Do you have similar figures with your Kitfox as I was a little
> surprise by
> this as I achieve around the same with a 583.
Well, it's difficult to say,Gary, because I am not good at numbers. I
know that e.g. my ASI is somewhat 5 MPH over the real speed, when I
compare with the GPS. But then, compensating for the wind, etc. I am
not accurate, it's more a feeling.
Anyway, at 2,900 RPM, I would reach, if not exceed my Vne on my model
3, which is 100 MPH. I usually cruise at 2,600 to 2,700 RPM, which
gives me something like 85 MPH. Since I also had a 582 before, I can
definitively say that the Jabiru engine gives more power than the
Rotax. But I think the question may be in the choice of a propeller.
I have a Jabiru two-bladed fixed-pitch wooden prop of 60 by 38 inches.
My static RPM at WOT is 2,900 and, at level flight: 3,000. I have never
reached anything near the rated 3,300. But I have been told that my
figures are good for a cruising propeller. I think you should ask your
gentleman friend what is his static RPM. I am pretty much sure that it
is higher than mine. If I understand this correctly, from reading the
Jabiru list, he has then a good climbing prop. Which is nice on short
fields. But I have 2,500 ft of asphalt to take off from. So, I am much
better with my slightly higher pitched prop with a nice and economical
lower cruising RPM. Actually, if I just fly around, sight-seeing with a
passenger, I hardly go over 2,400. Why burn much fuel?
From my trip to Belgium, last summer, I calculated my consumption to
be about 14 liters per hour. Since then, I have adjusted the carb
needle one step down (as instructed at 50 hours) and I should burn even
less. But then, again, numbers and statistics are not really my cup of
tea. All I know is that I am very pleased with the Jabiru, it served me
well during the 115 hours I have had it, summer as winter. Never a
problem to start it, even in sub-zero temperature. And yes, it is
incredibly smooth running, compared to the 582.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
There are a number of option now available to you Gary. Its no longer a
single choice should you decide to register in an ultralight catagory. Do
some research on the Recreation Aviation Australia site to see which will
suit your needs. For instance the 19 catagory allows you to perform all work
on the aircraft yourself where as the 25 catagory wont. You may even want to
consider GA registration to allow you greater flexibility in the use of
primary airports. The rego is the easy bit and only takes a matter of 2
weeks. I would however suggest deregistering your plane while your there as
the paper work will be required for proof of degistration. It could take
some time if your corresponding from here to Canada, particularly if you
decide to go with GA rego and have to deal with CASA.
Regards
Graeme Toft
----- Original Message -----
From: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:39 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
>
> Colin
>
> I am an Australian Ex-Pat living in Canada and am considering returning
> home
> to Adelaide after 13 years in Canada. Can you help me re registration and
> operation of my Kitfox in Australia.
>
> Are there any issues that you are aware of that would present problems in
> registering/operating a Model 4 under the Ultralight rules?
>
> Please contact me off list if you can assist me algate@attglobal.net
>
>
> Best regards
> Gary Algate
> President
> SDS Canada Inc
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin Durey
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:06 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Windscreen fitting - Thanks!
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey" <colin@ptclhk.com>
>
> Thanks to all for your responses re fitting the windscreen. I have put it
> to the side for a few days while I attend to a few other bits. Re the warm
> days suggestions... Sydney is in the Southern Hemisphere (much further
> south than Gaeme who can go swimming with his Fox at any time of year) and
> the warm days are behind us for a while so, the heat gun looks like the
> only option at the moment.
>
> Thanks again.. This list is the greatest.
>
> Regards
>
> Colin Durey
> Sydney
> +61-418-677073 (M)
> +61-2-945466162 (F)
>
>
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| Subject: | Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Thanks Graeme and Sid.
At least now I can make a start on preparations
Regards
GaryA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of QSS
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
There are a number of option now available to you Gary. Its no longer a
single choice should you decide to register in an ultralight catagory. Do
some research on the Recreation Aviation Australia site to see which will
suit your needs. For instance the 19 catagory allows you to perform all work
on the aircraft yourself where as the 25 catagory wont. You may even want to
consider GA registration to allow you greater flexibility in the use of
primary airports. The rego is the easy bit and only takes a matter of 2
weeks. I would however suggest deregistering your plane while your there as
the paper work will be required for proof of degistration. It could take
some time if your corresponding from here to Canada, particularly if you
decide to go with GA rego and have to deal with CASA.
Regards
Graeme Toft
----- Original Message -----
From: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:39 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
>
> Colin
>
> I am an Australian Ex-Pat living in Canada and am considering returning
> home
> to Adelaide after 13 years in Canada. Can you help me re registration and
> operation of my Kitfox in Australia.
>
> Are there any issues that you are aware of that would present problems in
> registering/operating a Model 4 under the Ultralight rules?
>
> Please contact me off list if you can assist me algate@attglobal.net
>
>
> Best regards
> Gary Algate
> President
> SDS Canada Inc
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin Durey
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:06 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Windscreen fitting - Thanks!
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey" <colin@ptclhk.com>
>
> Thanks to all for your responses re fitting the windscreen. I have put it
> to the side for a few days while I attend to a few other bits. Re the warm
> days suggestions... Sydney is in the Southern Hemisphere (much further
> south than Gaeme who can go swimming with his Fox at any time of year) and
> the warm days are behind us for a while so, the heat gun looks like the
> only option at the moment.
>
> Thanks again.. This list is the greatest.
>
> Regards
>
> Colin Durey
> Sydney
> +61-418-677073 (M)
> +61-2-945466162 (F)
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Hi Joel Mapes,
Almost asked off list, but thought others might like
your answer too. Saw your pic on SportFlight
"Gotta-Haves" of the Dynon on you panel.
How do you like it? Does it work well in direct
sunlight?
Wish they were available when I planned my panel. It
would have cost me only slightly more to go Dynon then
steam gauges and weigh a lot less. Maybe for MyFox-2?
Funny about this list. I came to this topic from
politics and a hangar door. :-)
Kurt S.
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| Subject: | Grounding of fuel tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
Some weeks ago I saw discussions on grounding of the filler neck on the fiberglass
fuel tanks (M4) to the rear spar with copper braid. My question is what size
brade is required and how is it connected to the spar? I beleave it was soldered
to the tank neck. Thanks in advance, Don
Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario, Canada
M4/1200-912s Speedster
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
Some weeks ago I saw discussions on grounding of the filler neck on the fiberglass
fuel tanks (M4) to the rear spar with copper braid. My question is what size
brade is required and how is it connected to the spar? I beleave it was soldered
to the tank neck. Thanks in advance, Don
Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario, Canada
M4/1200-912s Speedster
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| Subject: | Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
Hay Gary, Don't leave yet, I may need help with my windshield install, Don Stevenson,
Caledon
Algate <algate@attglobal.net> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate"
Thanks Graeme and Sid.
At least now I can make a start on preparations
Regards
GaryA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of QSS
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS"
There are a number of option now available to you Gary. Its no longer a
single choice should you decide to register in an ultralight catagory. Do
some research on the Recreation Aviation Australia site to see which will
suit your needs. For instance the 19 catagory allows you to perform all work
on the aircraft yourself where as the 25 catagory wont. You may even want to
consider GA registration to allow you greater flexibility in the use of
primary airports. The rego is the easy bit and only takes a matter of 2
weeks. I would however suggest deregistering your plane while your there as
the paper work will be required for proof of degistration. It could take
some time if your corresponding from here to Canada, particularly if you
decide to go with GA rego and have to deal with CASA.
Regards
Graeme Toft
----- Original Message -----
From: "Algate"
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:39 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate"
>
> Colin
>
> I am an Australian Ex-Pat living in Canada and am considering returning
> home
> to Adelaide after 13 years in Canada. Can you help me re registration and
> operation of my Kitfox in Australia.
>
> Are there any issues that you are aware of that would present problems in
> registering/operating a Model 4 under the Ultralight rules?
>
> Please contact me off list if you can assist me algate@attglobal.net
>
>
> Best regards
> Gary Algate
> President
> SDS Canada Inc
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin Durey
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:06 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Windscreen fitting - Thanks!
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey"
>
> Thanks to all for your responses re fitting the windscreen. I have put it
> to the side for a few days while I attend to a few other bits. Re the warm
> days suggestions... Sydney is in the Southern Hemisphere (much further
> south than Gaeme who can go swimming with his Fox at any time of year) and
> the warm days are behind us for a while so, the heat gun looks like the
> only option at the moment.
>
> Thanks again.. This list is the greatest.
>
> Regards
>
> Colin Durey
> Sydney
> +61-418-677073 (M)
> +61-2-945466162 (F)
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
No Sweat Don - just let me know (I still have an old windshield at home that
you can trial fit if you like to make up a pattern?
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donald
STEVENSON
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:42 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
Hay Gary, Don't leave yet, I may need help with my windshield install, Don
Stevenson, Caledon
Algate <algate@attglobal.net> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by:
"Algate"
Thanks Graeme and Sid.
At least now I can make a start on preparations
Regards
GaryA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of QSS
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS"
There are a number of option now available to you Gary. Its no longer a
single choice should you decide to register in an ultralight catagory. Do
some research on the Recreation Aviation Australia site to see which will
suit your needs. For instance the 19 catagory allows you to perform all work
on the aircraft yourself where as the 25 catagory wont. You may even want to
consider GA registration to allow you greater flexibility in the use of
primary airports. The rego is the easy bit and only takes a matter of 2
weeks. I would however suggest deregistering your plane while your there as
the paper work will be required for proof of degistration. It could take
some time if your corresponding from here to Canada, particularly if you
decide to go with GA rego and have to deal with CASA.
Regards
Graeme Toft
----- Original Message -----
From: "Algate"
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:39 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aussie Ex-Pat Kitfox pilot
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate"
>
> Colin
>
> I am an Australian Ex-Pat living in Canada and am considering returning
> home
> to Adelaide after 13 years in Canada. Can you help me re registration and
> operation of my Kitfox in Australia.
>
> Are there any issues that you are aware of that would present problems in
> registering/operating a Model 4 under the Ultralight rules?
>
> Please contact me off list if you can assist me algate@attglobal.net
>
>
> Best regards
> Gary Algate
> President
> SDS Canada Inc
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin Durey
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:06 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Windscreen fitting - Thanks!
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Colin Durey"
>
> Thanks to all for your responses re fitting the windscreen. I have put it
> to the side for a few days while I attend to a few other bits. Re the warm
> days suggestions... Sydney is in the Southern Hemisphere (much further
> south than Gaeme who can go swimming with his Fox at any time of year) and
> the warm days are behind us for a while so, the heat gun looks like the
> only option at the moment.
>
> Thanks again.. This list is the greatest.
>
> Regards
>
> Colin Durey
> Sydney
> +61-418-677073 (M)
> +61-2-945466162 (F)
>
>
> --
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding of fuel tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
My understanding is that a small wire will do, since
it is static electricity. It is also a good idea to
include a resistor in line to the spar so that the
charge bleeds off more slowly and avoids the spark.
Don't know what the others have used. I would guess
equivelent to a #16 wire is plenty with a little 1/2
amp 1000 ohm resister? That may be overkill.
You need good electrical contact at both ends, but
don't solder to the AL spar. If there is a brace
nearby that is riveted to the spar, I'd drill a #30
into that and use a pop rivet to attach the wire with
a crimpon end. Run the wire somewhere where it is
supported and not going to break off with time.
Where are our electrical experts on this?
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com> wrote:
> Some weeks ago I saw discussions on grounding of the
> filler neck on the fiberglass fuel tanks (M4) to the
> rear spar with copper braid. My question is what
> size brade is required and how is it connected to
> the spar? I beleave it was soldered to the tank
> neck. Thanks in advance, Don
>
> Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario, Canada
> M4/1200-912s Speedster
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| Subject: | Re: off topic - Politics. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Thanks Michel,
It is my belief that this list has saved pilots'
lives, not just building time and pride. The last
thing I want to do is mess it up.
Kurt S.
--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
> On Apr 26, 2006, at 10:40 PM, kurt schrader wrote:
> > I will now self-inflict several wounds....
>
> My dear friend, I hope that, by now, your wounds
> have stopped bleeding.
> Please be assured that I will always read you,
> off-topic or not, with great pleasure.
>
> Yours, sincerely,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Yes John,
Water cooled turbo. I have been thinking about
louvers above and just behind the turbo too for
cooling. Close them off for winter carb antiice,
since the turbo heat keeps the carb air warm. Open
for cooler intake air in the summer = more power?
Too many ideas to try and no time right now.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- John Anderson <janderson412@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Is your turbo water cooled Kurt? I added a louver
> vent in the upper cowl &
> it has sure helped getting rid of the residual heat
> after shut down. John A.
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding of fuel tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
Electrically speaking a small wire will do the job. Hardly any
current is involved just a voltage potential. I used 16 ga because it
was handy. 22 ga would be ok. It is not like the wire braid between
your engine and the battery which carries hundreds of amps. The trick
is to keep the voltage the same between the filler neck and the
airframe. I connected mine to the spar. Then when fueling I use the
tie down attachment for the ground to earth.
Regards, Paul
At 02:39 PM 4/28/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
>
>Some weeks ago I saw discussions on grounding of the filler neck on
>the fiberglass fuel tanks (M4) to the rear spar with copper braid.
>My question is what size brade is required and how is it connected
>to the spar? I beleave it was soldered to the tank neck. Thanks in advance, Don
>
>Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario, Canada
>M4/1200-912s Speedster
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding of fuel tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
That might have been me, Don. I used the Aircraft Spruce 1/4" tin
plated copper braid p/n 863, p.419. I attached it to the spar with a
ring terminal under a washer, then the spar attaching nut. I soldered
the braid to the filler neck, being careful to put it low enough to
clear the filler cap. I used a 200-watt soldering iron to do the job.
Lynn
On Friday, April 28, 2006, at 04:39 PM, Donald STEVENSON wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON
> <shericom@rogers.com>
>
> Some weeks ago I saw discussions on grounding of the filler neck on
> the fiberglass fuel tanks (M4) to the rear spar with copper braid. My
> question is what size brade is required and how is it connected to the
> spar? I beleave it was soldered to the tank neck. Thanks in advance,
> Don
>
> Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario, Canada
> M4/1200-912s Speedster
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Michigan Flyin |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kevin Cozik" <Kcozik@cablespeed.com>
Hi Frank,
I don't live far from Mason. What info are you looking for?
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Miles" <f.miles.tcp.833@clearwire.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:00 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Michigan Flyin
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Frank Miles"
> <f.miles.tcp.833@clearwire.net>
>
> I would like to connect off line with the party that has some knowledge of
> the Mason area. Not Kitfox related. I would like some information on the
> Mason/Leslie area if you don't mind and are familiar that area.
>
>
> Frank Miles
>
> Clarkston, Wash.
>
> Kitfox III / N91JE
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
Not sure I understand. Did you have it hooked up to constant voltage
source?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron schick
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Model 5 parts
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
--> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Rick as I was testing my electronics installations your old hobbs
clicked
past 666 hours. Glad I was on the ground for that one. Ron NB Ore do
not archive
>From: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
>To: "Kitfox" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 5 parts
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:16:14 -0700
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
>
>I had told a couple of folks the E.I. internal shunt digital Volt Amp
>meter was sold. This is the one with over and under voltage indication.
>The buyer who said he wanted it has backed out of the deal. Guess I
>should wait until I get the payment in the future. This is the first
>one that went that way so guess I will continue as before. Anyway, its
>back on the market for 200 plus shipping. Very nice instrument. I also
>have two E.I. digital EGTs instruments, no probes. The flapperons,
>horizontal stabilizer, new piston set, and turbo are sold as well.
>Special thanks to all that have kept there word on all the many items
>that have left my hangar and my life.
>
>Rick
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
Not sure if I posted my vents shots, but was not to hard. Now to shut
them on and off now that's a bigger deal for sure.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt
schrader
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Overheating
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
--> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Yes John,
Water cooled turbo. I have been thinking about
louvers above and just behind the turbo too for
cooling. Close them off for winter carb antiice,
since the turbo heat keeps the carb air warm. Open
for cooler intake air in the summer = more power?
Too many ideas to try and no time right now.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- John Anderson <janderson412@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Is your turbo water cooled Kurt? I added a louver
> vent in the upper cowl &
> it has sure helped getting rid of the residual heat
> after shut down. John A.
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| Subject: | Houston-area Kitfoxers? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
Hey Andrew,
Would like to meet up but I'm out of town! Are you in next weekend?
Regards,
Ted
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Andrew
Matthaey
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 1:03 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Houston-area Kitfoxers?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey"
<spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Hello list,
I'm in Houston for a couple weeks (training with ExpressJet), and I'd love
to meet up with some fellow Kitfoxers (I'm missing my Kitfox pretty bad
LoL). I'm staying at the Holiday Inn (IAH) and have the weekend free, as
well as every morning next week. Email me, I'd love to hear from somebody!
Andrew
KF3
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
OK Guys It has been a very busy last couple of weeks and we felt that it
was time for a brief update.
1st.. I would really like to thank everyone for the incredible support and
offers of assistance. What a great feeling !
Our primary focus is to support the Kitfox builders with the manufactured
parts needed. While the cleanup and organization is on going, we are
starting to produce parts.
We have secured a lease using the existing facility at the Caldwell airport.
We are actively working towards our new facility.
We will be producing full kits in the fall.
Airshows We are going to be at Oshkosh.. North Aircraft Display space 426.
We are working on a parking area for Kitfoxs in the custom built area just
to the East of space 426.
And last but not least.. The name..
KITFOX Aircraft LLC
We are working on a web now In the mean time visit www.sportplanellc.com
<http://www.sportplanellc.com/> for updated info.. There will be a link
from there to the new site when it is up and running.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com <http://www.sportplanellc.com/>
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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| Subject: | KITFOX Aircraft LLC |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Congratulations on the new name it is an excellent choice. Excited to =
see things moving ahead.=20
Dee Young
Model II N345DY
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| Subject: | Looking for list member - AWO Arlington, WA area |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com>
Hello - Seatle area,
I'm purchasing Full Lotus Floats from a guy based at Arlington (AWO) WA.
Is there anyone on the list that operates out of AWO or lives in that area and
is willing to verify the condition (new) or happens to know the seller (Ernie
Corriveau) who has a Fergy B. in a hanger at AWO.
He seems to be a very nice guy. He prefers that the condition of the floats is
verified before boxing them up to ship, also for general production to both parties.
There are escrow services that would work... so I just ask if anyone is based at/near
there so that it would not be too much trouble to take a peak.
Thanks !
DO NOT ARCHIVE
--------
Richard in SW Michigan
Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=31542#31542
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Aircraft |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <sonex321@msn.com>
Congratulations, John & Debra!
I really like the new name!
I wish you much success in your new venture.
Cheers,
Bruce Harrington
Ex-N194KF, 582ed IV-1200, 800+ hrs - Simple Orange
> OK Guys It has been a very busy last couple of weeks and we felt that it
> was time for a brief update.
>
> 1st.. I would really like to thank everyone for the incredible support and
> offers of assistance. What a great feeling !
>
> Our primary focus is to support the Kitfox builders with the manufactured
> parts needed. While the cleanup and organization is on going, we are
> starting to produce parts.
>
> We have secured a lease using the existing facility at the Caldwell
> airport.
> We are actively working towards our new facility.
>
> We will be producing full kits in the fall.
>
> Airshows We are going to be at Oshkosh.. North Aircraft Display space 426.
> We are working on a parking area for Kitfoxs in the custom built area just
> to the East of space 426.
>
> And last but not least.. The name..
>
> KITFOX Aircraft LLC
>
> We are working on a web now In the mean time visit www.sportplanellc.com
> <http://www.sportplanellc.com/> for updated info.. There will be a link
> from there to the new site when it is up and running.
>
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com <http://www.sportplanellc.com/>
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Aircraft |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 07:30 PM 4/28/2006, you wrote:
>And last but not least.. The name..
>
>KITFOX Aircraft LLC
DUDE, YOU SO ROCK!
;-)
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding of fuel tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 01:39 PM 4/28/2006, you wrote:
>Some weeks ago I saw discussions on grounding of the filler neck on the
>fiberglass fuel tanks (M4) to the rear spar with copper braid. My question
>is what size brade is required and how is it connected to the spar? I
>beleave it was soldered to the tank neck. Thanks in advance,
Somewhat off topic. I didn't have the neck grounded, but recognized the
requirement. I now have a couple of electrical clamps with 15' of 14ga test
lead wire between them. On each clamp I've attached about a foot of light
chain. One chain goes in the tank during fill with the clamp on the filler
neck. The other clamp goes on the axle with the chain on the ground. I pour
a little water on the ground chain for additional contact. I'm hoping this
will get any static buildup on the gasoline surface to ground.
If I were going to go to the trouble of grounding the filler neck, I'd
attach a conductive chain from the filler neck long enough to reach the
bottom of the tank.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Looking for list member - AWO Arlington, WA area |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Richard, Arlington is about 50 miles north of me. If no one closer
volunteers, I could inspect them. I am not an expert on floats, so keep that
in mind.
Just let me know.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Rabbers
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:23 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Looking for list member - AWO Arlington, WA area
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com>
Hello - Seatle area,
I'm purchasing Full Lotus Floats from a guy based at Arlington (AWO) WA.
Is there anyone on the list that operates out of AWO or lives in that area
and is willing to verify the condition (new) or happens to know the seller
(Ernie Corriveau) who has a Fergy B. in a hanger at AWO.
He seems to be a very nice guy. He prefers that the condition of the floats
is verified before boxing them up to ship, also for general production to
both parties.
There are escrow services that would work... so I just ask if anyone is
based at/near there so that it would not be too much trouble to take a peak.
Thanks !
DO NOT ARCHIVE
--------
Richard in SW Michigan
Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=31542#31542
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Thanks for the update, John. Good luck to you! Is the brand Skystar dead
now? Are you putting out a press release?
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 7:30 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Aircraft
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
OK Guys It has been a very busy last couple of weeks and we felt that it
was time for a brief update.
1st.. I would really like to thank everyone for the incredible support and
offers of assistance. What a great feeling !
Our primary focus is to support the Kitfox builders with the manufactured
parts needed. While the cleanup and organization is on going, we are
starting to produce parts.
We have secured a lease using the existing facility at the Caldwell airport.
We are actively working towards our new facility.
We will be producing full kits in the fall.
Airshows We are going to be at Oshkosh.. North Aircraft Display space 426.
We are working on a parking area for Kitfoxs in the custom built area just
to the East of space 426.
And last but not least.. The name..
KITFOX Aircraft LLC
We are working on a web now In the mean time visit www.sportplanellc.com
<http://www.sportplanellc.com/> for updated info.. There will be a link
from there to the new site when it is up and running.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com <http://www.sportplanellc.com/>
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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| Subject: | Re: Considering selling my 912 powered Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "debrun26@juno.com" <debrun26@juno.com>
Hi Ted, I'm looking for a kitfox just like yours so I was glad to se=
e the foto's of your plane. I showed my wife the one with the smoke on =
and told her you were having engine problems. She didn't think that was=
a good sign. I told her I thought I could adjust it to not smoke. I'v=
e actually been looking for 6 months... there is one for sale close by b=
ut I'd muce rather have yours with the ferrings and 27gal of fuel instea=
d of 18. The only problem is transporting it here. Any ideas? do you =
deliver. Oh, by the way... I live in Anchorage, Alaska. Would you cons=
ider taking a vacation of a life time and I would buy you a plane ticket=
back. I don't think I could drive it up here on the Al/Can highway w/o=
it needing a new paint job due to the flying rock damage. Let me know =
your thoughts and if you would sell it w/o the trailer. I am getting re=
ady to learn to fly and would like to learn in my own taildragger which =
I've heard is the most supid idea... but other cfi's have said it could =
work. One friend told me he could teach me and then I could get a cfi t=
o check me out. Another friend said if I found a plane in the lower 48 =
I could hire a cfi to fly it up with me and I'd know how to fly by the t=
ime I got home. I guess you could say I'm going through mid life crisis=
at age 52 and need a new challenge. E-mail back with any ideas, L=
ayne Cropper e-mail: debrun26@juno.com ph; 907-569-2767 =
=
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thought I could adjust it to not smoke. I've actually been looking=
for 6 months... there is one for sale close by but I'd muce rather have=
yours with the ferrings and 27gal of fuel instead of 18. The only=
problem is transporting it here. Any ideas? do you deliver.=
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arn in my own taildragger which I've heard is the most supid idea... but=
other cfi's have said it could work. One friend told me he could =
teach me and then I could get a cfi to check me out. Another frien=
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Well, no carb icing problems for me being EFI. But the louvers sure are
efective at getting rid of the residual heat, plus they aid the intercooler
too. John
From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Overheating
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Yes John,
Water cooled turbo. I have been thinking about
louvers above and just behind the turbo too for
cooling. Close them off for winter carb antiice,
since the turbo heat keeps the carb air warm. Open
for cooler intake air in the summer = more power?
Too many ideas to try and no time right now.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- John Anderson <janderson412@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Is your turbo water cooled Kurt? I added a louver
>vent in the upper cowl &
>it has sure helped getting rid of the residual heat
>after shut down. John A.
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for list member - AWO Arlington, WA area |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com>
Don,
Thank you very much for your offer.
At current gas prices... I wouldn't want to put you out for that much travel by
car - BUT... if you need an excuse to fly... maybe then.
In any case, I appreciate your offer.
- the seller is currently out of town but due back in about a week.
Richard
Do not archive
--------
Richard in SW Michigan
Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=31565#31565
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for list member - AWO Arlington, WA area |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
You might give the full lotus people a call and ask
them what to look for. While those floats handle
banging around very well, UV light is a problem for
them. Maybe full lotus can tell you how to inspect
for that. Obvioulsy make sure the internal bags don't
leak.
Kurt S. S-5
--- Richard Rabbers <rira1950@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello - Seatle area,
>
> I'm purchasing Full Lotus Floats from a guy based at
> Arlington (AWO) WA.
>
> Is there anyone on the list that operates out of AWO
> or lives in that area and is willing to verify the
> condition (new) or happens to know the seller (Ernie
> Corriveau) who has a Fergy B. in a hanger at AWO.
>
> He seems to be a very nice guy. He prefers that the
> condition of the floats is verified before boxing
> them up to ship, also for general production to both
> parties.
>
> There are escrow services that would work... so I
> just ask if anyone is based at/near there so that it
> would not be too much trouble to take a peak.
>
> Thanks !
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Aircraft |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
WOW John,
You are coming up to speed fast!
My guess with that name you are going to build....
ahhh
KitFox's? :-)
It doesn't get any better than this. What a great
future for the KitFox airplanes.
Kurt S.
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| Subject: | Tree Top Flyer for Sale? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Hi List,
I am certainly not happy to report this, but I am looking to send my Kitfox
3 to another good home...She has served me very well over the last year, but
it is looking as if it's time to move on.
I can't be flying much this summer, or later this year either - I'm working
for ExpressJet at Manchester Airport (KMHT) while finishing up my final
classes at school. By August I need to build sufficient multi-time to apply
for a Pilot job with my Airline, and by September I hope to be a
freshly-minted F.O. on the ERJ-145 (a year before the rest of my class even
graduates, no less). Anyway, with more Training in Houston this summer, and
then the relocation to EWR, CLE, or IAH, I cannot see holding onto the 'Fox
any longer, especially when my student loans come due in 8 months.
If you'd like more information, shoot me an email...As a head's up I'm
looking for somewhere in the ballpark of 15-16K...
Andrew
KF3, 582 C-Box (3.47: 1) 3-Blade GSC
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