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1. 12:21 AM - Re: Grounding of fuel tanks (John Anderson)
2. 01:20 AM - Re: Grounding of fuel tanks (Rex Shaw)
3. 06:22 AM - Re: Overheating (kurt schrader)
4. 06:23 AM - Re: Grounding of fuel tanks (kurt schrader)
5. 06:25 AM - Re: Grounding of fuel tanks (kurt schrader)
6. 06:35 AM - Re: Grounding of fuel tanks (kurt schrader)
7. 07:22 AM - Re: [SPAM] Re: Grounding of fuel tanks (Guy Buchanan)
8. 08:19 AM - Re: Grounding of fuel tanks (Dan Billingsley)
9. 10:25 AM - tail spring (dwight purdy)
10. 12:27 PM - Re: Grounding of fuel tanks (kurt schrader)
11. 12:27 PM - Re: Considering selling my 912 powered Model IV (flier)
12. 12:33 PM - Re: tail spring (mark thomson)
13. 01:01 PM - Re: tail spring (mark thomson)
14. 01:03 PM - Re: Grounding of fuel tanks (John Anderson)
15. 01:28 PM - Re: Grounding of fuel tanks (PWilson)
16. 02:20 PM - Re: tail spring (dwight purdy)
17. 02:33 PM - selling my 912 powered Model IV (Sid Hausding)
18. 05:19 PM - florida kitfox (Mark Thompson)
19. 05:19 PM - florida kitfox (Mark Thompson)
20. 05:19 PM - florida (Mark Thompson)
21. 05:34 PM - Re: tail spring (clemwehner)
22. 07:41 PM - Re: tail spring (dwight purdy)
23. 09:41 PM - Re: tail spring (James Shumaker)
24. 10:27 PM - Re: tail spring (kurt schrader)
25. 10:34 PM - Rotax 912 UL Package For Sale (Stan Bearup)
26. 10:35 PM - Re: florida kitfox (kurt schrader)
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding of fuel tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Heli logging in dry weather just just on dusk, never seen 3ft but some
beauties all the same...those spinning blades certainly builsd up a
charge...can't help but smile looking down...
From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Grounding of fuel tanks
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 05:31 AM 4/29/2006, you wrote:
>The longest spark I saw from an aircraft, other than
>lightening, was from a hovering helo. It was about 3
>feet long and struck a man on the ground. Got his
>attention and mine! I saw it from 200 yards away!
Before Navy helicopters land on ship, they are first discharged with an 8'
wand connected via a huge cable to the ship. I've seen it.
Guy
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding of fuel tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
As an electronics guy I will verify what Kurt says. I think the =
advantage of using braid over wire is only because the wire might break =
and braid is far less vulnerable so it's your choice. The resistor in =
the braid or wire is essential. The reason being that if the filler neck =
is hard earthed [ ie:- no resistor ] then if you have a static charge =
built up on the fuel container or perhaps you holding it then you get a =
zap and bang she could go. You could earth the container as well as the =
filler neck and you would be OK but if you use a resistor then any =
difference in voltage potential will promptly drain away rather than arc =
over. So this way you are pretty safe either way. ie:- earthing the can =
or not. Earthing the can as well as the neck would be the best preferece =
though but don't make the connection next to fumes. ie:- on the can neck =
with cap open.
Somebody did point this out basically before about the resistor. One =
small point though is the resistor should really be a bit higher in =
value than 1,000 ohms. At that you may still get a spark. I would =
suggest say 1/2 megohm [ 500,000 ohms ] It will still drain the voltage =
off virtually instantly but with no zap. Also I think kurt meant to =
quote watts rating for the resistor not amps. Virtually any wattage =
would be enough but I'd suggest 1 watt for something a bit more =
physically robust. In fact a good idea might be 2 only 1 megohm ones =
side by side. What we call connected in parallel. This gives 1/2 megohm =
that we were originally talking about but a built in safety factor =
should one fail either due to mechanical breakage or go electrically =
open circuit. In such a case we would be left with 1 megohm rather than =
1/2 megohm but it will still do the job just fine.
Rex Shaw
Australia.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
That would probably work John.
I could reach inside the cowl from the front intake
and move the slide when necessary. A small wire
handle would do. Leave it open all summer for better
power and cooler ops (except for rain). Close it for
cooler weather, but maybe still open it after shutdown
on the cool, but not cold days. Closed all winter.
Good idea!
Now if you can come up with a simple wind beater, we
could all fly on those days. :-)
kurt S.
--- John Anderson <janderson412@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I was thinking REAL simple Kurt....have an
> externally hand operated, after
> shutdown and cool down slide closed. I'm thinking
> more of summer/winter use
> and to keep water out when standing (if it has to
> stand out) Feeling
> frustrated, nice day but 20kt easterly and I need to
> fly...ha ha
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding of fuel tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Yes Guy,
I flew Marine CH-53s. 72 foot rotar span and a big
static machine. I think it was our primary weapon.
;-)
This occurance happened on the ground when a grunt
tried to show a helo team how to hook up without a
wand and learned a positive (or was it negative?)
lesson. I think he went about 20 feet including the
roll. Off fairway..... Unusuall for Marines - no
sand trap.
Kurt S.
Do not archive
--- Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> wrote:
> At 05:31 AM 4/29/2006, you wrote:
> >The longest spark I saw from an aircraft, other
> than
> >lightening, was from a hovering helo. It was about
> 3
> >feet long and struck a man on the ground. Got his
> >attention and mine! I saw it from 200 yards away!
>
> Before Navy helicopters land on ship, they are first
> discharged with an 8'
> wand connected via a huge cable to the ship. I've
> seen it.
>
> Guy
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding of fuel tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
John,
Which type helo?
Kurt S.
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--- John Anderson <janderson412@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Heli logging in dry weather just just on dusk,
> never seen 3ft but some
> beauties all the same...those spinning blades
> certainly builsd up a
> charge...can't help but smile looking down...
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding of fuel tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Thanks Rex,
That is designing for longevity.
Ha ha... Yes watts! I am getting too old to think
about the "hard" stuff. :-) Mega volts of static
should have that greater resistance too.
As a retrofit, I might try a metalic paint (design)
behind the filler neck and ground it to somewhere.
Have to test electrically first.... Might provide the
conductivity and resistance too. It will need good
contact points though. Just an idea. Thinking about
my fuel stains and 2 birds....
Kurt S.
--- Rex Shaw <rexjan@bigpond.com> wrote:
> As an electronics guy I will verify what Kurt says.
> I think the =
> advantage of using braid over wire is only because
> the wire might break =
> and braid is far less vulnerable so it's your
> choice. The resistor in =
> the braid or wire is essential. The reason being
> that if the filler neck =
> is hard earthed [ ie:- no resistor ] then if you
> have a static charge =
> built up on the fuel container or perhaps you
> holding it then you get a =
> zap and bang she could go. You could earth the
> container as well as the =
> filler neck and you would be OK but if you use a
> resistor then any =
> difference in voltage potential will promptly drain
> away rather than arc =
> over. So this way you are pretty safe either way.
> ie:- earthing the can =
> or not. Earthing the can as well as the neck would
> be the best preferece =
> though but don't make the connection next to fumes.
> ie:- on the can neck =
> with cap open.
> Somebody did point this out basically before about
> the resistor. One =
> small point though is the resistor should really be
> a bit higher in =
> value than 1,000 ohms. At that you may still get a
> spark. I would =
> suggest say 1/2 megohm [ 500,000 ohms ] It will
> still drain the voltage =
> off virtually instantly but with no zap. Also I
> think kurt meant to =
> quote watts rating for the resistor not amps.
> Virtually any wattage =
> would be enough but I'd suggest 1 watt for something
> a bit more =
> physically robust. In fact a good idea might be 2
> only 1 megohm ones =
> side by side. What we call connected in parallel.
> This gives 1/2 megohm =
> that we were originally talking about but a built in
> safety factor =
> should one fail either due to mechanical breakage or
> go electrically =
> open circuit. In such a case we would be left with 1
> megohm rather than =
> 1/2 megohm but it will still do the job just fine.
>
> Rex Shaw
>
> Australia.
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding of fuel tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 05:50 PM 4/30/2006, you wrote:
>The resistor in the braid or wire is essential.
Thanks for the tip, Rex. I had planned to do the initial hookup to the
tank, then ground, but I'll incorporate the resistor in my system because
it's easy to do and will hopefully eliminate any potential for spark. (Pun
not intended.)
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding of fuel tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dan Billingsley <dan@azshowersolutions.com>
I recently got checked out in an LSA (Allegro 2000) and thought it was interesting
to see grounding wire dragging the ground coming off of the main gear next
to the wheels. It was the first time I have seen this having flown only C-172
& 152s. Is this a common practice and would it benefit doing the same on the
Kitfoxes?
Dan,
Mesa
www.azshowersolutions.com/Kitfox1.html
Rex Shaw <rexjan@bigpond.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex Shaw"
As an electronics guy I will verify what Kurt says. I think the =
advantage of using braid over wire is only because the wire might break =
and braid is far less vulnerable so it's your choice. The resistor in =
the braid or wire is essential. The reason being that if the filler neck =
is hard earthed [ ie:- no resistor ] then if you have a static charge =
built up on the fuel container or perhaps you holding it then you get a =
zap and bang she could go. You could earth the container as well as the =
filler neck and you would be OK but if you use a resistor then any =
difference in voltage potential will promptly drain away rather than arc =
over. So this way you are pretty safe either way. ie:- earthing the can =
or not. Earthing the can as well as the neck would be the best preferece =
though but don't make the connection next to fumes. ie:- on the can neck =
with cap open.
Somebody did point this out basically before about the resistor. One =
small point though is the resistor should really be a bit higher in =
value than 1,000 ohms. At that you may still get a spark. I would =
suggest say 1/2 megohm [ 500,000 ohms ] It will still drain the voltage =
off virtually instantly but with no zap. Also I think kurt meant to =
quote watts rating for the resistor not amps. Virtually any wattage =
would be enough but I'd suggest 1 watt for something a bit more =
physically robust. In fact a good idea might be 2 only 1 megohm ones =
side by side. What we call connected in parallel. This gives 1/2 megohm =
that we were originally talking about but a built in safety factor =
should one fail either due to mechanical breakage or go electrically =
open circuit. In such a case we would be left with 1 megohm rather than =
1/2 megohm but it will still do the job just fine.
Rex Shaw
Australia.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
I have finally experienced the rudder stopping power of the dreaded broken
tail spring.
Is anyone selling them for the model II? Have a fly-in this weekend I
hate to miss.
dwight
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding of fuel tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Hi Dan,
I think this was more common practice years ago, but
not so much now. I had forgotten all about them on
planes, but you are right. I do remember seeing them
on planes small and large.
I dont see any harm in it if the wire is kept far
enough from the wheel that it doesnt get trapped
underneath and torn of. This is not a primary ground,
but should be a good, simple backup.
kurt S.
--- Dan Billingsley <dan@azshowersolutions.com> wrote:
> I recently got checked out in an LSA (Allegro 2000)
> and thought it was interesting to see grounding wire
> dragging the ground coming off of the main gear next
> to the wheels. It was the first time I have seen
> this having flown only C-172 & 152s. Is this a
> common practice and would it benefit doing the same
> on the Kitfoxes?
> Dan,
> Mesa
> www.azshowersolutions.com/Kitfox1.html
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| Subject: | Considering selling my 912 powered Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
Hi Layne,
I appreciate the inquiry but Houston to Anchorage would be quite a move! If
I find the right buyer I'd also be looking to let it go as a package since
the trailer is built specifically for it.
Thanks again,
Ted
www.foxflier.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
debrun26@juno.com
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Considering selling my 912 powered Model IV
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "debrun26@juno.com" <debrun26@juno.com>
Hi Ted, I'm looking for a kitfox just like yours so I was glad to se=
e the foto's of your plane. I showed my wife the one with the smoke on =
and told her you were having engine problems. She didn't think that was=
a good sign. I told her I thought I could adjust it to not smoke. I'v=
e actually been looking for 6 months... there is one for sale close by b=
ut I'd muce rather have yours with the ferrings and 27gal of fuel instea=
d of 18. The only problem is transporting it here. Any ideas? do you =
deliver. Oh, by the way... I live in Anchorage, Alaska. Would you cons=
ider taking a vacation of a life time and I would buy you a plane ticket=
back. I don't think I could drive it up here on the Al/Can highway w/o=
it needing a new paint job due to the flying rock damage. Let me know =
your thoughts and if you would sell it w/o the trailer. I am getting re=
ady to learn to fly and would like to learn in my own taildragger which =
I've heard is the most supid idea... but other cfi's have said it could =
work. One friend told me he could teach me and then I could get a cfi t=
o check me out. Another friend said if I found a plane in the lower 48 =
I could hire a cfi to fly it up with me and I'd know how to fly by the t=
ime I got home. I guess you could say I'm going through mid life crisis=
at age 52 and need a new challenge. E-mail back with any ideas, L=
ayne Cropper e-mail: debrun26@juno.com ph; 907-569-2767 =
=
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: mark thomson <kr2@earthlink.net>
testing my email,sorry no tail spring here
-----Original Message-----
>From: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
>Sent: Apr 30, 2006 1:22 PM
>To: "kitfox-list@matronics.com" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: tail spring
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
>
>I have finally experienced the rudder stopping power of the dreaded broken
>tail spring.
> Is anyone selling them for the model II? Have a fly-in this weekend I
>hate to miss.
>
>dwight
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: mark thomson <kr2@earthlink.net>
-----Original Message-----
>From: mark thomson <kr2@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Apr 30, 2006 3:32 PM
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: tail spring
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: mark thomson <kr2@earthlink.net>
>
>testing my email,sorry no tail spring here
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
>>Sent: Apr 30, 2006 1:22 PM
>>To: "kitfox-list@matronics.com" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Kitfox-List: tail spring
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
>>
>>I have finally experienced the rudder stopping power of the dreaded broken
>>tail spring.
>> Is anyone selling them for the model II? Have a fly-in this weekend I
>>hate to miss.
>>
>>dwight
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding of fuel tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Bell205 & 212 Kurt....Big blades ...smile..
From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Grounding of fuel tanks
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
John,
Which type helo?
Kurt S.
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--- John Anderson <janderson412@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Heli logging in dry weather just just on dusk,
>never seen 3ft but some
>beauties all the same...those spinning blades
>certainly builsd up a
>charge...can't help but smile looking down...
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding of fuel tanks |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
The copper tape is an appealing way to go if one has the covering
complete. Just solder it at the filler glue it to the fabric and
screw it to the spar. Then paint the strip. Sounds like a reasonable approach.
Paul
=============
At 05:41 PM 4/29/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
>Glad you are keeping us straight Paul.
>
>Without everything grounded, it probably is a good
>idea to touch the can or hose to the unopened cap
>first, then open the cap to fuel.
>
>But I am counting on good looks and luck right now
>myself. Too many things to make right and not enough
>time to do them all, darn. Glad others learn this
>stuff here before they build too far. I got here to
>late to run the filler neck wire under the fabric.
>Got to do make shift corrections until to-dos and
>time come together.
>
>Kurt S.
>
>--- PWilson <pwmac@sisna.com> wrote:
>
> > Kurt, good point Always ground the plane before
> > starting the fueling
> > process. A built up charge may be present. One
> > thing to remember is
> > that the first line of defense from static discharge
> > during fueling
> > is that the fuel nozzle always be in contact with
> > the tank inlet
> > during fueling. This practice is the reason that the
> > planes that do
> > not have the filler neck grounded to the airframe
> > have not had an
> > incident. This likewise applies to funnels whether
> > conductive or not.
> > Never let the gasoline squirt into a vessel without
> > contact between
> > the vessel and the source of the fuel. Example: do
> > not pour fuel into
> > a funnel unless the Jerry can spout is in contact
> > with the funnel.
> > Not sure the chain from the filler neck to bottom of
> > the tank has
> > merit. This is because the static charge buildup is
> > the result of the
> > liquid flowing thru the vapor above the liquid
> > surface. Thus if there
> > is a ground path from the source (say a fill nozzle)
> > to the flowing
> > stream there will not be arcing.
> > Regards, Paul
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
Way to break my heart?
Dwight
At 03:59 PM 4/30/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: mark thomson <kr2@earthlink.net>
>
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>-----Original Message-----
> >From: mark thomson <kr2@earthlink.net>
> >Sent: Apr 30, 2006 3:32 PM
> >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: tail spring
> >
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: mark thomson <kr2@earthlink.net>
> >
> >testing my email,sorry no tail spring here
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >>From: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
> >>Sent: Apr 30, 2006 1:22 PM
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> >>Subject: Kitfox-List: tail spring
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> >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
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> >>I have finally experienced the rudder stopping power of the dreaded broken
> >>tail spring.
> >> Is anyone selling them for the model II? Have a fly-in this weekend I
> >>hate to miss.
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> >>dwight
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| Subject: | selling my 912 powered Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Sid Hausding <avidsid@yahoo.com>
buying in Houston, trailering to Seattle and barging or ferrying north is not out
of the question and not that expensive considering the distance and getting
the trailer with the plane too.........time is the only deciding factor and then
that wouldn't take all that lone either......
IMO
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flier <flier@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier"
Hi Layne,
I appreciate the inquiry but Houston to Anchorage would be quite a move! If
I find the right buyer I'd also be looking to let it go as a package since
the trailer is built specifically for it.
Thanks again,
Ted
www.foxflier.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
debrun26@juno.com
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Considering selling my 912 powered Model IV
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "debrun26@juno.com"
Hi Ted, I'm looking for a kitfox just like yours so I was glad to se=
e the foto's of your plane. I showed my wife the one with the smoke on =
and told her you were having engine problems. She didn't think that was=
a good sign. I told her I thought I could adjust it to not smoke. I'v=
e actually been looking for 6 months... there is one for sale close by b=
ut I'd muce rather have yours with the ferrings and 27gal of fuel instea=
d of 18. The only problem is transporting it here. Any ideas? do you =
deliver. Oh, by the way... I live in Anchorage, Alaska. Would you cons=
ider taking a vacation of a life time and I would buy you a plane ticket=
back. I don't think I could drive it up here on the Al/Can highway w/o=
it needing a new paint job due to the flying rock damage. Let me know =
your thoughts and if you would sell it w/o the trailer. I am getting re=
ady to learn to fly and would like to learn in my own taildragger which =
I've heard is the most supid idea... but other cfi's have said it could =
work. One friend told me he could teach me and then I could get a cfi t=
o check me out. Another friend said if I found a plane in the lower 48 =
I could hire a cfi to fly it up with me and I'd know how to fly by the t=
ime I got home. I guess you could say I'm going through mid life crisis=
at age 52 and need a new challenge. E-mail back with any ideas, L=
ayne Cropper e-mail: debrun26@juno.com ph; 907-569-2767 =
=
"Why can't we all just get along?"
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mark Thompson" <kr2@earthlink.net>
test message
Mark Thompson
kr2@earthlink.net
EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mark Thompson" <kr2@earthlink.net>
Hi Guys ,I am new to the list and I have a kitfox iv and looking for someone in
Florida preferably around central or northeast Florida for some dual time. I
have just got back into flying after 8 yrs and thinking I might need to find someone
that has the same kitfox to help me out.I have lots of tail time,but have
not flown in the last 3 yrs and not familiar with the kitfox.....any help would
be greatly appreciated....
thanks Mark
Mark Thompson
kr2@earthlink.net
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mark Thompson" <kr2@earthlink.net>
hi all
Mark Thompson
kr2@earthlink.net
EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net>
Dwight,
A friend of mine, John Perry, (who is on this list) had a new spring for
his model II made locally at a spring shop. Cost him about $75 to have
an exact duplicate made. Interestingly, the shop guy told him the
original spring as supplied by Denney Aerocraft was not spring steel but
cheap steel about like you'd find on a farm implement.
You might try that approach if you can find a metal shop who works with
spring steel.
Clem
Lawton, OK
KFIV-912
-----Original Message-----
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
I have finally experienced the rudder stopping power of the dreaded
broken
tail spring.
Is anyone selling them for the model II? Have a fly-in this weekend I
hate to miss.
dwight
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
Do not know if the one I broke was original or not. The break sure looked
like something hard. I personally had over 500 hours on it. I am a
machinist and could play around but do not want to take a chance of ruining
the rudder.
Thanks Dwight
At 07:31 PM 4/30/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net>
>
>Dwight,
>
>A friend of mine, John Perry, (who is on this list) had a new spring for
>his model II made locally at a spring shop. Cost him about $75 to have
>an exact duplicate made. Interestingly, the shop guy told him the
>original spring as supplied by Denney Aerocraft was not spring steel but
>cheap steel about like you'd find on a farm implement.
>
>You might try that approach if you can find a metal shop who works with
>spring steel.
>
>Clem
>Lawton, OK
>KFIV-912
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
>
>I have finally experienced the rudder stopping power of the dreaded
>broken
>tail spring.
> Is anyone selling them for the model II? Have a fly-in this weekend I
>
>hate to miss.
>
>dwight
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: James Shumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Dwight
I had a tailspring break and bought a tailspring out of Aircraft Spruce. Specifically,
the 06-14500 for homebuilts. I had to redrill one end, cut off some
extra length and belt sand the width to fit my Maule tailwheel. But it only
required about an hour to modify and fit up.
Jim Shumaker
clemwehner <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "clemwehner"
Dwight,
A friend of mine, John Perry, (who is on this list) had a new spring for
his model II made locally at a spring shop. Cost him about $75 to have
an exact duplicate made. Interestingly, the shop guy told him the
original spring as supplied by Denney Aerocraft was not spring steel but
cheap steel about like you'd find on a farm implement.
You might try that approach if you can find a metal shop who works with
spring steel.
Clem
Lawton, OK
KFIV-912
-----Original Message-----
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy
I have finally experienced the rudder stopping power of the dreaded
broken
tail spring.
Is anyone selling them for the model II? Have a fly-in this weekend I
hate to miss.
dwight
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Bad steel? That might explain some of the earlier
breaks. SS might not have known.
Kurt S.
--- clemwehner <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Dwight,
>
> A friend of mine, John Perry, (who is on this list)
> had a new spring for
> his model II made locally at a spring shop. Cost him
> about $75 to have
> an exact duplicate made. Interestingly, the shop guy
> told him the
> original spring as supplied by Denney Aerocraft was
> not spring steel but
> cheap steel about like you'd find on a farm
> implement.
>
> You might try that approach if you can find a metal
> shop who works with spring steel.
>
> Clem
> Lawton, OK
> KFIV-912
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| Subject: | Rotax 912 UL Package For Sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Stan Bearup" <bearup@ida.net>
Hi gang!
I have a complete Rotax 912 UL engine package that came off of a low time
Kitfox V available for sale. It is in excellent condition with only 297
trouble free hours since new. Included along with the engine is the exhaust
system, with heat shrouds and carburetor heat airbox, new radiator, oil
cooler, oil tank, complete ignition system in a firewall mounted shielded
aluminum box, and a GSC ground adjustable three-blade propeller. I do not
have a Kitfox mount, but other than that, this package is ready to install
and fly. I purchased the package a few months ago with intentions to use on
my Just Aircraft Highlander that I am currently building, but have since
decided to go with a 125 HP Franklin 4A-235 engine. I am asking $9,000 firm.
Cheers!
Stan Bearup
www.justkitplanes.com
Stan@justkitplanes.com
(208) 220-0837
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| Subject: | Re: florida kitfox |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Hi Mark,
Welcome home. This is a place for KitFoxs and
friends.
I live in Rockledge South of Coco. My plane is up at
Arthur Dunn in Titusville. Are you near there?
Kurt S. S-5
--- Mark Thompson <kr2@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hi Guys ,I am new to the list and I have a kitfox iv
> and looking for someone in Florida preferably around
> central or northeast Florida for some dual time. I
> have just got back into flying after 8 yrs and
> thinking I might need to find someone that has the
> same kitfox to help me out.I have lots of tail
> time,but have not flown in the last 3 yrs and not
> familiar with the kitfox.....any help would be
> greatly appreciated....
>
> thanks Mark
>
>
> Mark Thompson
> kr2@earthlink.net
> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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