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1. 01:16 AM - Re: Re: Posts (John Anderson)
2. 06:07 AM - Matco / Cleveland Brakes (Rexster)
3. 07:44 AM - Re: Matco / Cleveland Brakes (Mike Ford)
4. 08:15 AM - Re: Matco / Cleveland Brakes (Rexster)
5. 08:25 AM - Re: Re: Posts (kurt schrader)
6. 08:32 AM - Kitfox wanted (Larry Huntley)
7. 10:47 AM - Fuel backflow valve? (ron schick)
8. 12:23 PM - Re: Fuel backflow valve? (Bradley M Webb)
9. 12:25 PM - Re: Re: Posts (Michel Verheughe)
10. 01:31 PM - Re: Fuel backflow valve? (Peter Graichen)
11. 02:26 PM - Re: Fuel backflow valve? (ron schick)
12. 02:26 PM - Re: Fuel backflow valve? (ron schick)
13. 03:32 PM - Re: Fuel backflow valve? (Larry Huntley)
14. 03:32 PM - Re: Fuel backflow valve? (Peter Graichen)
15. 03:32 PM - Re: Fuel backflow valve? (Bradley M Webb)
16. 03:41 PM - Re: Fuel backflow valve? (Bradley M Webb)
17. 05:58 PM - Re: Thrust, props and parts (wingsdown)
18. 06:11 PM - KITFOX PARTS AND OTHER AIRCRAFT PARTS FOR SALE UPDATE: (wingsdown)
19. 08:24 PM - 912S/ oil cooler efficiency (John King)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Me too Randy, I find Kurts posts helpful and thought provoking, GREAT lister
indeed..John A...
From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Posts
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Thanks Randy,
I did a lot of reading in my lifetime about this
technical stuff. Mostly a generalist myself, not
quite an expert in any one area. Never know if it
helps, but I do know that there are experts out here
who can correct me if I am wrong, and we all gain form
the end result. Beats sitting here wondering....
So I write with my Nomex flame suit on and a lump in
my throat hoping that it helps, or at least makes
someone laugh. Having been a Marine, I can take the
fire and it is a small price to pay for friends.
Thanks for the affirmation and motivation. Maybe now
I won't have to marry Michel and move to Norway. ;-)
(Not a gay thing but an old joke for those who are new
here. Michel has a wife and I think she can take me,
ha ha He just likes to keep me in my place.)
Kurt S.
Do not archbive
--- Randy Daughenbaugh <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> wrote:
.............
>And Kurt don't stop. I learn a lot from your long
>posts. (short ones too.) ............
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| Subject: | Matco / Cleveland Brakes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rexster" <runwayrex@juno.com>
=
Malcolm and Ray,
I changed over from Matco to Cleveland in 2001, when I wore out my l=
arge skinned tires. As I looked for replacement tires, I thought of how =
poorly these Matcos worked and how happy fellow Kitfox guys were with th=
eir Clevelands. I was also aware that the large wheels that I had were n=
ot as round as they should be. I talked to Dave Morris at Skystar and he=
told me that those wheels did get bent easily when the factory installe=
d the skinned tires on them.
At that point, I ordered the Cleveland brakes along with six inch whe=
els, tires and new Mcreary Air Hawk tires from Wag Areo. Aircraft Spruce=
also carries them. I found the entire purchase to be fairly reasonable =
and was thrilled with the results! With the Matcos, I had to use a lot o=
f brake pedal pressure to hold the Fox during run-ups. With the Clevelan=
ds, there was a world of difference. The Cleveland wheels are round and =
the Air Hawk tires are still looking new to this day. I can't even see a=
ny appreciable wear on the brake pads. There's a total of 510 hours on t=
he plane now.
I went upstairs at the hangar Thursday night to search for those Matc=
o brakes and didn't come across them. I'm starting to think that after =
a week or so of storing all the old stuff and being so much happier with=
the new, that I pitched the tires, wheels and brakes as an assembly. =
I guess I'd make a good commercial for Cleveland! What matters to you=
two is that I guess I don't have the old Matcos, but I'll look again th=
is weekend and let you know if I saved the brakes for some reason. If I =
find them, I'll contact both of you and you can fight over them. Price? =
Close to nothing. =
Rex Phelps / Michigan / EAA chapter 13 =
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<P> </P>
<P>Malcolm and Ray,</P>
<P> I changed over from Matco to Cleveland in 2001, wh=
en I wore out my large skinned tires. As I looked for replacement t=
ires, I thought of how poorly these Matcos worked and how happy fellow K=
itfox guys were with their Clevelands. I was also aware that the large w=
heels that I had were not as round as they should be. I talked to Dave M=
orris at Skystar and he told me that those wheels did get bent easily wh=
en the factory installed the skinned tires on them.</P>
<P> At that point, I ordered the Cleveland brakes along with=
six inch wheels, tires and new Mcreary Air Hawk tires from Wag Are=
o. Aircraft Spruce also carries them. I found the entire purchase to be =
fairly reasonable and was thrilled with the results! With the Matcos, I =
had to use a lot of brake pedal pressure to hold the Fox during run-ups.=
With the Clevelands, there was a world of difference. The Clevelan=
d wheels are round and the Air Hawk tires are still looking new to this =
day. I can't even see any appreciable wear on the brake pads. There's a =
total of 510 hours on the plane now.</P>
<P> I went upstairs at the hangar Thursday night to search f=
or those Matco brakes and didn't come across them. I'm starting to think=
that after a week or so of storing all the old stuff&nb=
sp;and being so much happier with the new, that I pitched the tires, whe=
els and brakes as an assembly. </P>
<P> I guess I'd make a good commercial for Cleveland! What m=
atters to you two is that I guess I don't have the old Matcos, but I'll =
look again this weekend and let you know if I saved the brakes for some =
reason. If I find them, I'll contact both of you and you can fight over =
them. Price? Close to nothing. </P>
<P>Rex Phelps / Michigan / EAA chapter 13 </P></BLOCKQUOTE></html>
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| Subject: | Re: Matco / Cleveland Brakes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Ford <fordm2003@yahoo.com>
Rex,
Those cleveland brakes sound all kinds of nice. I will trouble shoot my matco
a little more and then decide.
Have you ever found the brakes to be too sensitive? Is your plane a taildragger?
I've heard of some people mention that taildragger pilots might need to use a slight
amount of brake during rollout (say left brake to help compinsate for a
stiff right crosswind)
Would you feel that using the Cleveland brakes during a stiff cross wind landing
would be too risky do the effectivness/touchiness of the brakes?
Thanks for the info!
Mike
Rexster <runwayrex@juno.com> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rexster"
=
Malcolm and Ray,
I changed over from Matco to Cleveland in 2001, when I wore out my l=
arge skinned tires. As I looked for replacement tires, I thought of how =
poorly these Matcos worked and how happy fellow Kitfox guys were with th=
eir Clevelands. I was also aware that the large wheels that I had were n=
ot as round as they should be. I talked to Dave Morris at Skystar and he=
told me that those wheels did get bent easily when the factory installe=
d the skinned tires on them.
At that point, I ordered the Cleveland brakes along with six inch whe=
els, tires and new Mcreary Air Hawk tires from Wag Areo. Aircraft Spruce=
also carries them. I found the entire purchase to be fairly reasonable =
and was thrilled with the results! With the Matcos, I had to use a lot o=
f brake pedal pressure to hold the Fox during run-ups. With the Clevelan=
ds, there was a world of difference. The Cleveland wheels are round and =
the Air Hawk tires are still looking new to this day. I can't even see a=
ny appreciable wear on the brake pads. There's a total of 510 hours on t=
he plane now.
I went upstairs at the hangar Thursday night to search for those Matc=
o brakes and didn't come across them. I'm starting to think that after =
a week or so of storing all the old stuff and being so much happier with=
the new, that I pitched the tires, wheels and brakes as an assembly. =
I guess I'd make a good commercial for Cleveland! What matters to you=
two is that I guess I don't have the old Matcos, but I'll look again th=
is weekend and let you know if I saved the brakes for some reason. If I =
find them, I'll contact both of you and you can fight over them. Price? =
Close to nothing. =
Rex Phelps / Michigan / EAA chapter 13 =
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>
Malcolm and Ray,
I changed over from Matco to Cleveland in 2001, wh=
en I wore out my large skinned tires. As I looked for replacement t=
ires, I thought of how poorly these Matcos worked and how happy fellow K=
itfox guys were with their Clevelands. I was also aware that the large w=
heels that I had were not as round as they should be. I talked to Dave M=
orris at Skystar and he told me that those wheels did get bent easily wh=
en the factory installed the skinned tires on them.
At that point, I ordered the Cleveland brakes along with=
six inch wheels, tires and new Mcreary Air Hawk tires from Wag Are=
o. Aircraft Spruce also carries them. I found the entire purchase to be =
fairly reasonable and was thrilled with the results! With the Matcos, I =
had to use a lot of brake pedal pressure to hold the Fox during run-ups.=
With the Clevelands, there was a world of difference. The Clevelan=
d wheels are round and the Air Hawk tires are still looking new to this =
day. I can't even see any appreciable wear on the brake pads. There's a =
total of 510 hours on the plane now.
I went upstairs at the hangar Thursday night to search f=
or those Matco brakes and didn't come across them. I'm starting to think=
that after a week or so of storing all the old stuff&nb=
sp;and being so much happier with the new, that I pitched the tires, whe=
els and brakes as an assembly.
I guess I'd make a good commercial for Cleveland! What m=
atters to you two is that I guess I don't have the old Matcos, but I'll =
look again this weekend and let you know if I saved the brakes for some =
reason. If I find them, I'll contact both of you and you can fight over =
them. Price? Close to nothing.
Rex Phelps / Michigan / EAA chapter 13
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| Subject: | Re: Matco / Cleveland Brakes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rexster" <runwayrex@juno.com>
Mike,
The Clevelands aren't touchy at all. Never have they been too sensitiv=
e. Yes, I have a taildragger and no, I never use brakes during take off,=
rudder has always been plenty. I'm not the world's greatest pilot, so t=
ake my experience only for what it's all worth. I always land with my fe=
et on the rudders only. Once I've got the landing under control and star=
t breathing again, I slide my feet up to the brakes and turn the plane a=
round to back taxi. With the Matcos, I had to really push hard to break =
the back end loose. With the Clevelands, the amount of brake required is=
what I'd call perfect, not at all touchy, but not bending brake pedals =
either. Maybe, I should have saved these emails and sent them to Clevela=
nd for a kick back! =
Rex Phelps / Michigan / EAA Chapter 13
=
-- Mike Ford <fordm2003@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Ford <fordm2003@yahoo.com>
Rex, =
Those cleveland brakes sound all kinds of nice. I will trouble shoot my=
matco a little more and then decide.
Have you ever found the brakes to be too sensitive? Is your plane a tai=
ldragger? =
I've heard of some people mention that taildragger pilots might need to =
use a slight amount of brake during rollout (say left brake to help comp=
insate for a stiff right crosswind)
Would you feel that using the Cleveland brakes during a stiff cross wind=
landing would be too risky do the effectivness/touchiness of the brakes=
?
Thanks for the info!
Mike
Rexster <runwayrex@juno.com> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "=
Rexster" =
Malcolm and Ray,
I changed over from Matco to Cleveland in 2001, when I wore out my l=
arge skinned tires. As I looked for replacement tires, I thought of how =
poorly these Matcos worked and how happy fellow Kitfox guys were with th=
eir Clevelands. I was also aware that the large wheels that I had were n=
ot as round as they should be. I talked to Dave Morris at Skystar and he=
told me that those wheels did get bent easily when the factory installe=
d the skinned tires on them.
At that point, I ordered the Cleveland brakes along with six inch whe=
els, tires and new Mcreary Air Hawk tires from Wag Areo. Aircraft Spruce=
also carries them. I found the entire purchase to be fairly reasonable =
and was thrilled with the results! With the Matcos, I had to use a lot o=
f brake pedal pressure to hold the Fox during run-ups. With the Clevelan=
ds, there was a world of difference. The Cleveland wheels are round and =
the Air Hawk tires are still looking new to this day. I can't even see a=
ny appreciable wear on the brake pads. There's a total of 510 hours on t=
he plane now.
I went upstairs at the hangar Thursday night to search for those Matc=
o brakes and didn't come across them. I'm starting to think that after =
a week or so of storing all the old stuff and being so much happier with=
the new, that I pitched the tires, wheels and brakes as an assembly. =
I guess I'd make a good commercial for Cleveland! What matters to you=
two is that I guess I don't have the old Matcos, but I'll look again th=
is weekend and let you know if I saved the brakes for some reason. If I =
find them, I'll contact both of you and you can fight over them. Price? =
Close to nothing.
Rex Phelps / Michigan / EAA chapter 13
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>
=
Malcolm and Ray,
I changed over from Matco to Cleveland in 2001, wh
en I wore out my large skinned tires. As I looked for replacement t
ires, I thought of how poorly these Matcos worked and how happy fellow K=
itfox guys were with their Clevelands. I was also aware that the large w=
heels that I had were not as round as they should be. I talked to Dave M=
orris at Skystar and he told me that those wheels did get bent easily wh=
en the factory installed the skinned tires on them.
At that point, I ordered the Cleveland brakes along with
six inch wheels, tires and new Mcreary Air Hawk tires from Wag Are
o. Aircraft Spruce also carries them. I found the entire purchase to be =
fairly reasonable and was thrilled with the results! With the Matcos, I =
had to use a lot of brake pedal pressure to hold the Fox during run-ups.=
With the Clevelands, there was a world of difference. The Clevelan
d wheels are round and the Air Hawk tires are still looking new to this =
day. I can't even see any appreciable wear on the brake pads. There's a =
total of 510 hours on the plane now.
I went upstairs at the hangar Thursday night to search f
or those Matco brakes and didn't come across them. I'm starting to think=
that after a week or so of storing all the old stuff&nb
sp;and being so much happier with the new, that I pitched the tires, whe=
els and brakes as an assembly. =
I guess I'd make a good commercial for Cleveland! What m
atters to you two is that I guess I don't have the old Matcos, but I'll =
look again this weekend and let you know if I saved the brakes for some =
reason. If I find them, I'll contact both of you and you can fight over =
them. Price? Close to nothing. =
Rex Phelps / Michigan / EAA chapter 13 =
=
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<html><P>Mike,</P>
<P> The Clevelands aren't touchy at all. Never have they been too =
sensitive. Yes, I have a taildragger and no, I never use brakes during t=
ake off, rudder has always been plenty. I'm not the world's greatest pil=
ot, so take my experience only for what it's all worth. I always land wi=
th my feet on the rudders only. Once I've got the landing under control =
and start breathing again, I slide my feet up to the brakes and turn the=
plane around to back taxi. With the Matcos, I had to really push hard t=
o break the back end loose. With the Clevelands, the amount of brake req=
uired is what I'd call perfect, not at all touchy, but not bending brake=
pedals either. Maybe, I should have saved these emails and sent them to=
Cleveland for a kick back! </P>
<P>Rex Phelps / Michigan / EAA Chapter 13</P>
<P> <BR><BR>-- Mike Ford <fordm2003@yahoo.com>=
wrote:<BR>--> Kitfox-List message posted by=
: Mike Ford <fordm2003@yahoo.com><BR><BR>Rex, =
<BR><BR>Those cleveland brakes sound all =
kinds of nice. I will trouble shoot&=
nbsp;my matco a little more and then =
decide.<BR><BR>Have you ever found the brakes&n=
bsp;to be too sensitive? Is your pla=
ne a taildragger? <BR><BR>I've heard of&n=
bsp;some people mention that taildragger pilots=
might need to use a slight amount&nb=
sp;of brake during rollout (say left brake=
to help compinsate for a stiff right=
crosswind)<BR><BR>Would you feel that using&nb=
sp;the Cleveland brakes during a stiff cro=
ss wind landing would be too risky do=
the effectivness/touchiness of the brakes?<BR>=
<BR>Thanks for the info!<BR>Mike<BR><BR><BR><BR>Rexster&n=
bsp;<runwayrex@juno.com> wrote: --> Kitfox-List&=
nbsp;message posted by: "Rexster" <BR><BR> <=
BR><BR>Malcolm and Ray,<BR> I chan=
ged over from Matco to Cleveland in 2=
001, when I wore out my l<BR>arge =
skinned tires. As I looked for replacement=
tires, I thought of how <BR>poorly&nbs=
p;these Matcos worked and how happy fellow=
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ands. I was also aware that the large=
wheels that I had were n<BR>ot as=
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Michel!
Have I got the Marine for you. He once said, "I never
turned anyone down...... Except a sailor. I turned
him face down."
Once you have been a Marine, you can take almost
anything in stride, wear pink undies, cry, anything
and still have your manhood well in tack. It has been
paid for and there is no doubt.
List: Michel just makes sure I remember it isn't all
about me here. Keeps me sharing. Keeps me honest, as
best as he can. Because once long ago and thousands
of miles away when he was in trouble, I read his soul
and knew him well. Maybe I helped him fly. He
returns the favor. His "abuse" keeps me tough.
Marines do that too. :-)
So that is the job of the joke. Payback in a good
way.
Kurt S.
Do not archive
--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
> On May 13, 2006, at 7:29 AM, kurt schrader wrote:
>
> > Maybe now I won't have to marry Michel and move to
> Norway. ;-)
>
> Really? And I had already our honeymoon, in a Kitfox
> over the Norwegian fjords, all prepared, honey!
>
> All, as Kurt says, it's only an old joke! First you
> write something
> funny and add a smiley. Then, you start omitting the
> smiley, and the
> humour goes to the second level: You answer as if
> you "go with it."
> Soon it gets quite complicated and you may try the
> third level, i.e.
> you understood the joke, went with it but decide to
> pretend you don't.
> Last, a new member joints the list and think: What
> the heck is this
> place? :-)
>
> I am a very serious person, have a beautiful wife, a
> fantastic son and
> an adorable grand-daughter. But ... I like extreme
> sports and ...
> marrying an ex-Marine sounds like fun! :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
Did someone recently list a Kitfox project for sale? I just had a young
fellow ask me about one this AM. Larry Huntley
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
I want to use gravity to feed my low mounted carb, but plan on a fuel pump
to overcome the vaporlock which forms each time I fold the wings. Does
anyone know of a backflow valve I can put in a parralell supply around the
pump? That way I have the simplicity of gravity and the security of a pump
if the need to do extreme manuevers interferes with my fuel supply. Ron NB
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| Subject: | Fuel backflow valve? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
Ron,
Run a check valve in parallel with the pump. Plumb it such that fuel can
flow by gravity past the pump, into a T in the fuel line post pump. That
way, when you turn the pump on, it will try to force fuel backward through
the valve, and shut it off, thereby pressurizing the fuel to the motor. I
thought of doing this very same thing.
I've heard that PCV valves work in the fuel line. If not, there are a number
of fuel specific one way check valves. Try Summit Racing. Maybe ACS has one,
also California Power Supply. I think I saw one in McMaster-Carr catalog,
right with the fuel level senders.
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron schick
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 1:44 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
I want to use gravity to feed my low mounted carb, but plan on a fuel pump
to overcome the vaporlock which forms each time I fold the wings. Does
anyone know of a backflow valve I can put in a parralell supply around the
pump? That way I have the simplicity of gravity and the security of a pump
if the need to do extreme manuevers interferes with my fuel supply. Ron NB
Ore
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On May 13, 2006, at 5:24 PM, kurt schrader wrote:
> His "abuse" keeps me tough. Marines do that too. :-)
Cool! Bring you whip and army boots! I'll be the one in the cute
sailor's dress! :-)
Gang, what I like with Kurt is that he is a complete airman or, as he
puts it himself, trisexual: rotor, prop and jet. Yet, he doesn't take
himself too seriously. And that is very refreshing. Thank you for the
interesting discussions and the good humour, Kurt. And yes, your
friendship and advice made my first steps as a Kitfoxer much more
easier.
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Fuel backflow valve? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
Hello Ron:
The Facet fuel pump sold by ASSC, p/n 40108 has a built-in check valve.
Sincerely,
Peter Graichen
http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron schick
Sent: Saturday, 13 May, 2006 13:44
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
--> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
I want to use gravity to feed my low mounted carb, but plan on a fuel pump
to overcome the vaporlock which forms each time I fold the wings. Does
anyone know of a backflow valve I can put in a parralell supply around the
pump? That way I have the simplicity of gravity and the security of a pump
if the need to do extreme manuevers interferes with my fuel supply. Ron NB
Ore
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Found It at ACS. Yes I have one at home and will do some flow tests with
it. I do not need the check valve if the pump will free flow in the event
of failure. Thanks Ron
>From: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
>Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:26:57 -0400
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
>
>Hello Ron:
>The Facet fuel pump sold by ASSC, p/n 40108 has a built-in check valve.
>Sincerely,
>Peter Graichen
>http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron schick
>Sent: Saturday, 13 May, 2006 13:44
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
>--> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
>I want to use gravity to feed my low mounted carb, but plan on a fuel pump
>to overcome the vaporlock which forms each time I fold the wings. Does
>anyone know of a backflow valve I can put in a parralell supply around the
>pump? That way I have the simplicity of gravity and the security of a pump
>if the need to do extreme manuevers interferes with my fuel supply. Ron
>NB
>
>Ore
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
ASSC? Will it free flow if turned off? Thanks Ron NB Or
>From: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
>Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:26:57 -0400
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
>
>Hello Ron:
>The Facet fuel pump sold by ASSC, p/n 40108 has a built-in check valve.
>Sincerely,
>Peter Graichen
>http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron schick
>Sent: Saturday, 13 May, 2006 13:44
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
>--> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
>I want to use gravity to feed my low mounted carb, but plan on a fuel pump
>to overcome the vaporlock which forms each time I fold the wings. Does
>anyone know of a backflow valve I can put in a parralell supply around the
>pump? That way I have the simplicity of gravity and the security of a pump
>if the need to do extreme manuevers interferes with my fuel supply. Ron
>NB
>
>Ore
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
I have one I bought at NAPA and put on 8 yrs ago. Plane runs fine with it
shut down except in steep climb.
Larry Huntley
----- Original Message -----
From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
> ASSC? Will it free flow if turned off? Thanks Ron NB Or
>
>
>>From: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
>>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
>>Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:26:57 -0400
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
>>
>>Hello Ron:
>>The Facet fuel pump sold by ASSC, p/n 40108 has a built-in check valve.
>>Sincerely,
>>Peter Graichen
>>http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron schick
>>Sent: Saturday, 13 May, 2006 13:44
>>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
>>--> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>>
>>I want to use gravity to feed my low mounted carb, but plan on a fuel pump
>>to overcome the vaporlock which forms each time I fold the wings. Does
>>anyone know of a backflow valve I can put in a parralell supply around the
>>pump? That way I have the simplicity of gravity and the security of a
>>pump
>>if the need to do extreme manuevers interferes with my fuel supply. Ron
>>NB
>>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
Hello again Ron:
Yes, the facet fuel pump will free flow with power switched off. But keep in
mind that at very high angles of attack there is very little or no head
between the tank and the engine. So, during take-off you definitely want to
run the pump. You also need the pump to purge vapor locks during hot starts.
Sincerely,
Peter Graichen
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron schick
Sent: Saturday, 13 May, 2006 17:07
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
--> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
ASSC? Will it free flow if turned off? Thanks Ron NB Or
>From: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
>Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:26:57 -0400
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
>
>Hello Ron:
>The Facet fuel pump sold by ASSC, p/n 40108 has a built-in check valve.
>Sincerely,
>Peter Graichen
>http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron schick
>Sent: Saturday, 13 May, 2006 13:44
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
>--> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
>I want to use gravity to feed my low mounted carb, but plan on a fuel
>pump to overcome the vaporlock which forms each time I fold the wings.
>Does anyone know of a backflow valve I can put in a parralell supply
>around the pump? That way I have the simplicity of gravity and the
security of a pump
>if the need to do extreme manuevers interferes with my fuel supply. Ron
>NB
>
>Ore
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| Subject: | Fuel backflow valve? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
Ron,
Let me know what you find out. I'm not aware of any pump that free flows
like that. But if it does, I'm interested, as well.
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron schick
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 5:25 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Found It at ACS. Yes I have one at home and will do some flow tests with
it. I do not need the check valve if the pump will free flow in the event
of failure. Thanks Ron
>From: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
>Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:26:57 -0400
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
>
>Hello Ron:
>The Facet fuel pump sold by ASSC, p/n 40108 has a built-in check valve.
>Sincerely,
>Peter Graichen
>http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron schick
>Sent: Saturday, 13 May, 2006 13:44
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
>--> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
>I want to use gravity to feed my low mounted carb, but plan on a fuel pump
>to overcome the vaporlock which forms each time I fold the wings. Does
>anyone know of a backflow valve I can put in a parralell supply around the
>pump? That way I have the simplicity of gravity and the security of a pump
>if the need to do extreme manuevers interferes with my fuel supply. Ron
>NB
>
>Ore
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
Sounds like I've been misinformed on fuel pump operation.
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Huntley
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
I have one I bought at NAPA and put on 8 yrs ago. Plane runs fine with it
shut down except in steep climb.
Larry Huntley
----- Original Message -----
From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
> ASSC? Will it free flow if turned off? Thanks Ron NB Or
>
>
>>From: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
>>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
>>Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:26:57 -0400
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
>>
>>Hello Ron:
>>The Facet fuel pump sold by ASSC, p/n 40108 has a built-in check valve.
>>Sincerely,
>>Peter Graichen
>>http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron schick
>>Sent: Saturday, 13 May, 2006 13:44
>>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel backflow valve?
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
>>--> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>>
>>I want to use gravity to feed my low mounted carb, but plan on a fuel pump
>>to overcome the vaporlock which forms each time I fold the wings. Does
>>anyone know of a backflow valve I can put in a parralell supply around the
>>pump? That way I have the simplicity of gravity and the security of a
>>pump
>>if the need to do extreme manuevers interferes with my fuel supply. Ron
>>NB
>>
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| Subject: | Thrust, props and parts |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
Indented responses
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt
schrader
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 9:06 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Thrust, props and parts
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
--> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Hey Rick,
Several things:
First, for prop efficiency, what gearing did you
change to from the 2.23 : 1 you had? Did that help?
I changed thinking I would be making more HP than I
actually did and would be able to spin the blade tip near Mach. Didn't
happen. Due to intercooler or rather the lack there of my boost was
limited. I did achieve lower inlet temps due to much improved turbo mods
but would conservatively say I was making a good solid 160HP at 5200
RPMs.
I know I am running my prop way under the most
efficient rpm, takeoff and cruise. Did you try a 2:1 ratio?
I went just slightly under , as I remember appx 1:98:1. It
was all quite controversial since you can trade pitch for RPM or
increase boost and increase pitch and several combinations in between.
There is an optimum blade tip speed according to Warp Drive , cant
remember its in my notes but they are a very helpful bunch and would be
able to prove the info. I think I pinned them down to 16.5 degrees at
that optimum tip speed. With the gears below 2:1:1 I could not hit it. I
am pretty sure if you were geared near 2:24:1 and willing to spin the
engine at 6,200 it is attainable. I ran out of test time (you know)but
was going to re-gear.
I often takeoff at 5000 RPM or less to save the
engine, but that last 10% rpm makes a real difference
in performance, especially the last 300 rpm. I know
the turbo helps there, but I think that the prop is
just getting into its element at the engine RPM limit.
I also think we need a thicker stiffer cord for the 150
Plus HP range and expect much of the thrust we generate is washing out
to the sides, no proof just theory, due to blade flex. I use to think
the engine could take it, don't get me wrong , strong bottom end, weak
head. Specifically valves and heat exchange.
Wish I had a set of 2:1 gears, if that is what you had
and they worked for you. I'd like to fly the prop in
a more efficient range. I assume the Soob torque can
handle it, though it is mostly more rpm and less
pitch.
Second, put me down for your gas caps, trim assist and
oil cooler. Still considering some of the rest
available. I'll have to finalize soon as I can get
time with the Fox and think about it. I'll try to
keep it to one more shippment, unless you need the
space or $ now.
Take your time. I will mark them as sold.
Third, spinners. Who was it that was flying along and
heard a bang and the engine smoothed out? After
landing found the spinner was gone? Usually we add
parts to make things better, but sometimes "divorce"
helps.
Well at least that wasn't me. Mine was the canopy/skylight, and
it was more of a booooom! Followed by major stick and rudder shaking and
much wind noise.
Kurt S. S-5
--- wingsdown <wingsdown@comcast.net> wrote:
> Exactly. Static thrust only gives that relationship
> to other props at that static RPM..............
> This list most likely provides more real un-hyped
> numbers than any company will ever supply
> particular to the aircraft we fly. 22s on a Hummer.
> That gives me a great idea. Spinners for aircraft
> rims...I think they are 100 percent efficient and
> minimal flex under static loads.
>
> Rick
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| Subject: | KITFOX PARTS AND OTHER AIRCRAFT PARTS FOR SALE UPDATE: |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
KITFOX PARTS AND OTHER AIRCRAFT PARTS FOR SALE UPDATE:
Custom air oil separators as seen on sportflight pic post $150.00
each......................
CAP 140 complete hub assembly for NSI redrive, may fit others, no blades
$1,500 OBO.............
E.I digital EGT instrument, no probe $180 each or both for
$300.00....................
Hand held radio Yaesu VXA-200. This was there top of the line model and
should be compared to same now, has altitude,density altitude,pressure
alt. Temp, VOR heading plus extra Nmhi battery and programming software
and cable, list was over $600.00 sell for $350.00....................
COM/nav antenna model VHF5-1 by AAE thin flat composite style list $125
sell for $85.00..................
E.I. Electronics International Digital Volt/Amp gage with over and under
voltage indication internal shunt model VA-1A list $285 sell for
%200.00.........................SOLD
Carb ice gage Westach with sending probe $45.00.................SOLD
Intercom by PS Engineering model PM1000II with digital cockpit record
option $300.00..................
Electric clock model MD-90 $60.00.....................
Turtle deck with smoke grey lexan, has scratch in glass 150.00 if you do
a pick up I have material for replacement......
Electric servo/ jack screw assembly $500.00 OBO..................
Wheel pant left side only painted ready to mount or repaint
$50.00............
Rudder $300.00..............
Elevator $225.00..............
VDO gages:
2 1/8 tack , water temp,oil pressure, boost, large RPM 3 1/8 maybe 1/4,
EGT make offer..............
Cargo bay bag with aluminum custom fit bottom, no sagging. $95.00
.........................
Left long wing, moderate damage pick up only,
$1,500.00....................
Right long wing major tip damage , $750.00................
Lift struts, pair, faired $600.00 pick up only................
Horizontal Stabilator faired strut braces pair $100.00.................
Trim assist attached to mixer $80.00................(SOLD
Low level fuel indicator, SS PN 10116.000 with factory drawing and
install instruction $125.00......SOLD
Custom super trapp exhaust system. Will require the welding of a 3 bolt
flange to exhaust down pipe. $300.00 Pics on request....................
EA-81 turbo engine parts, blocks, engine mounts left and right, cranks,
rods, push rods, heads, cams, open price to be set, accepting
offers................
NSI alternator pulley New $60.00.......................
Stock small NSI oil cooler $50.00..................(SOLD)
NSI redrive new set of gears. Confirmed 2:23:1$75.00..............SOLD
NSI redrive gear puller $45.00....................SOLD
SS flight controls all factory parts available in excellent
condition....................
Strut end farings. These go at the top of the strus for less drag.
$60.00 for the complete set never installed.....SOLD
Carbon monoxide by coguardian. Plugs into lighter socket audible plus
digital level indicator. They have a web site. $99.00 ...............
Bendix/King fin type transponder antenna with ground plane plate
$50.00.....................
Airborne vacuum regulator valve model 2H3-23 #9AK FAA PMA list $728.00
in ACS catalog make offer..................
Airborne filter mount with filter best offer.............
Seat belt set both sides , with shoulder harness black
$75.00..............(SOLD)
Wood pistol grips modified one short on passenger PIC side regularl
length with PTTs $50.00 both..................
Mr. Funnel large for water seperation funnel filling of fuel
$20.00...............
Remote PTT $5.00 with other purchse..............
Fuel caps SS powder coated red nice $50.00 for the
set..................(SOLD)
Cessna dual vacuume gage with pop up no vac indicators can be used on
single system PN C668519-0101 $35.00............
Tire or tyre front Aero classic 11X4.00-5 8ply with new tube
$40.00......................
Cockpit light with flood or spot adjustment (model S1990) with red or
white light adjustment, with dim bright adjustment manufactured by
soderberg $55.00.......................
Landing light pulse unit. This is a CODE 3 unit model 700 which will
pulse or run steady, switch able $30.00. Beats the heck out of STC
units...........
Thanks so much
Rick
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
Fred,
Another question on your cooling problem. What coolant do you use and
what concentration? What do you dilute it with? I use Havoline
Extended Life and dilute it 50/50 with distilled water
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John King
Warrenton, VA
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