Today's Message Index:
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1. 03:52 AM - SV: Bungee turns (Michel Verheughe)
2. 05:50 AM - Re: Bungee turns (Dee Young)
3. 06:29 AM - NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS (Donald STEVENSON)
4. 06:29 AM - NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS (Donald STEVENSON)
5. 07:12 AM - Re: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS (Lowell Fitt)
6. 08:00 AM - Re: Bungee turns (Guy Buchanan)
7. 08:03 AM - Re: Wing types KF IV (Guy Buchanan)
8. 08:15 AM - Re: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
9. 08:31 AM - Re: Wing types KF IV (Guy Buchanan)
10. 08:31 AM - Re: Bungee turns (Guy Buchanan)
11. 08:38 AM - Re: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS (Guy Buchanan)
12. 08:41 AM - Re: Wing types KF IV (ron schick)
13. 09:04 AM - Re: Bungee turns (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
14. 10:06 AM - Re: osh campingosh camping (Joel Mapes)
15. 10:40 AM - Re: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS (Kerry Skyring)
16. 11:29 AM - Re: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS (W Duke)
17. 11:57 AM - Re: Wing types KF IV (Donald STEVENSON)
18. 12:00 PM - Re: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS (kirk hull)
19. 02:25 PM - Re: Bungee turns (Larry Huntley)
20. 03:55 PM - Re: Wing types KF IV (Lowell Fitt)
21. 04:13 PM - Annual (Flybradair@cs.com)
22. 04:35 PM - Re: Annual (Larry Huntley)
23. 04:45 PM - Re: Annual (ron schick)
24. 05:23 PM - Re: Wing types KF IV (Torgeir Mortensen)
25. 05:36 PM - Re: KF IV Wing Spar reinforcing rings (Rex Shaw)
26. 06:44 PM - Re: Wing types KF IV (Mo)
27. 07:20 PM - 2001 Kitfox 4 - 1200 with 912 UL For sale (Jay Fabian)
28. 07:39 PM - New Kitfox Owner needing lots of help (Steve Wilson)
29. 08:57 PM - Re: New Kitfox Owner needing lots of help (Guy Buchanan)
30. 08:57 PM - Re: Wing types KF IV (Guy Buchanan)
31. 09:11 PM - Re: New Kitfox Owner needing lots of help (Don Pearsall)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Dave [dave@cfisher.com]
> I have a Model IV with 5 wraps instead of 6 and it works fine.
That it works fine is the most important. I was also wondering if my bungees have
always been 6 turns, or 5 turns, then changed to 6. I didn't built the plane,
I bought it second hand, ten years after it was built. But I have the builder's
log book and he wrote there that the bungees had to be 140 cm (55") long.
When I intended to change them, I made some new ones exactly that size. But when
I removed the existing one, I found out that they were longer. My explanation
was that they had stretched, or lost elasticity. Unfortunately the new bungees
were way too soft and couldn't be used. But I have an idea that, in that
ten years period, the original bungees may have sagged a bit and the previous
owner has take an extra turn.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Bungee turns |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Michel I think the Model ll and lll take the same size bungees which is
60" long and 3/8" dia. If you would like I would be glad to check the
size and color. I read some where that one of the colors that had been
used was bad and no long recommended. I have also read that some
builders have made the sixth wrap when the bungee began to sag.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
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| Subject: | NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
Hi everyone, Can someone tell me if NACA type vents supplied with the M4 KF can
be closed in any way? I do not see that they come with any type of door or flap
to adjust or close them off when O/S air is not required. Winters get cold
in Canada!
Thanks, Don
Don Stevenson, Caledon Ontario Canada
M4/1200-912s
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| Subject: | NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
Hi everyone, Can someone tell me if NACA type vents supplied with the M4 KF can
be closed in any way? I do not see that they come with any type of door or flap
to adjust or close them off when O/S air is not required. Winters get cold
in Canada!
Thanks, Don
Don Stevenson, Caledon Ontario Canada
M4/1200-912s
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| Subject: | Re: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Hi, Don,
Most I have seen have simply stuffed a sponge or something like that in the
vent. When I was at United Airlines and building, I noticed the Boeing 737
had a door on their vents that fed air to the APU. I liked that idea and
put doors on mine.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald STEVENSON" <shericom@rogers.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:27 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
>
> Hi everyone, Can someone tell me if NACA type vents supplied with the M4
> KF can be closed in any way? I do not see that they come with any type of
> door or flap to adjust or close them off when O/S air is not required.
> Winters get cold in Canada!
> Thanks, Don
>
> Don Stevenson, Caledon Ontario Canada
> M4/1200-912s
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| Subject: | Re: Bungee turns |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 02:18 PM 5/22/2006, you wrote:
>And I agree, it takes two strong men to pull the bungee to a fit around
>the bars, one under and one from the inside.
Hey! I found a way to do it solo that's not too bad. You have to be careful
though.
I first wrapped the bungee as many times as I could and hooked the end over
the lug. (I think I got three or four wraps.) I then, using channel-locks,
(a type of plier with a lot of leverage and a lot of grip area,) and
working from the center wrap to the outside, pulled all of the "slack" to
the last loop. This left the last loop with enough slack to disconnect it
and gain another wrap. Re-connect the end and go through the process again.
I was able to get my full six wraps doing this. You have to be careful that
you don't damage the bungee by crushing or tearing it. I found it wasn't
too much of a problem.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing types KF IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Torgeir,
What does it mean if your serial number is HCU089?!?!?!? =-O
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
I used vents with a knob that shut off the airway. I believe they came from Spruce.
John
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON
>
> Hi everyone, Can someone tell me if NACA type vents supplied with the M4 KF can
> be closed in any way? I do not see that they come with any type of door or flap
> to adjust or close them off when O/S air is not required. Winters get cold in
> Canada!
> Thanks, Don
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> Don Stevenson, Caledon Ontario Canada
> M4/1200-912s
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<DIV>I used vents with a knob that shut off the airway. I believe they came
from Spruce.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
Downlo
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| Subject: | Re: Wing types KF IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Torgeir,
What does it mean if your serial number is HCU089?!?!?!? =-O
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Bungee turns |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 02:18 PM 5/22/2006, you wrote:
>And I agree, it takes two strong men to pull the bungee to a fit around
>the bars, one under and one from the inside.
Hey! I found a way to do it solo that's not too bad. You have to be careful
though.
I first wrapped the bungee as many times as I could and hooked the end over
the lug. (I think I got three or four wraps.) I then, using channel-locks,
(a type of plier with a lot of leverage and a lot of grip area,) and
working from the center wrap to the outside, pulled all of the "slack" to
the last loop. This left the last loop with enough slack to disconnect it
and gain another wrap. Re-connect the end and go through the process again.
I was able to get my full six wraps doing this. You have to be careful that
you don't damage the bungee by crushing or tearing it. I found it wasn't
too much of a problem.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 06:27 AM 5/23/2006, you wrote:
>Hi everyone, Can someone tell me if NACA type vents supplied with the M4
>KF can be closed in any way? I do not see that they come with any type of
>door or flap to adjust or close them off when O/S air is not required.
>Winters get cold in Canada!
Bob replaced the ones on my KIV with ACS adjustable scoops PN 01-30500.
They're a bear to use, but functional.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing types KF IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Mine is GBS 033 G=7th month B=1992 S= speedster 033 is serial ???
Skystar said it was a Denny aircraft, but I think it is their serial system.
Right on the Denney/ Skystar sale time frame.
Ron NB Or
>From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Wing types KF IV
>Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:31:59 -0700
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>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
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>Torgeir,
> What does it mean if your serial number is HCU089?!?!?!? =-O
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>
>Guy Buchanan
>K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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>Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Bungee turns |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
as has been suggested before, the use of large wireties as each loop is pulled
as far as it will go allows the carrying of the slack to the end. Others have
used a wood wedge jammed between the bungy and the frame carry through.
John
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan
>
> At 02:18 PM 5/22/2006, you wrote:
> >And I agree, it takes two strong men to pull the bungee to a fit around
> >the bars, one under and one from the inside.
>
> Hey! I found a way to do it solo that's not too bad. You have to be careful
> though.
>
> I first wrapped the bungee as many times as I could and hooked the end over
> the lug. (I think I got three or four wraps.) I then, using channel-locks,
> (a type of plier with a lot of leverage and a lot of grip area,) and
> working from the center wrap to the outside, pulled all of the "slack" to
> the last loop. This left the last loop with enough slack to disconnect it
> and gain another wrap. Re-connect the end and go through the process again.
> I was able to get my full six wraps doing this. You have to be careful that
> you don't damage the bungee by crushing or tearing it. I found it wasn't
> too much of a problem.
>
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> Guy Buchanan
> K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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<DIV>as has been suggested before, the use of large wireties as each loop is pulled
as far as it will go allows the carrying of the slack to the end. Others
have used a wood wedge jammed between the bungy and the frame carry through.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px
solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: Guy Buchanan
<bnn@nethere.com> <BR><BR>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy
Buchanan <BNN@NETHERE.COM><BR>> <BR>> At 02:18 PM 5/22/2006, you wrote:
<BR>> >And I agree, it takes two strong men to pull the bungee to a fit
around <BR>> >the bars, one under and one from the inside. <BR>> <BR>>
Hey! I found a way to do it solo that's not too bad. You have to be careful
<BR>> though. <BR>> <BR>> I first wrapped the bungee as many times
as I could and hooked the end over <BR>> the lug. (I think I got three or
four wraps.) I then, using channel-locks, <BR>> (a type of plier with a lot
of leverage and a lot of grip area,) and <BR>> working from the center wrap
to the outside, pulled all of the "slack" to <BR>> the last loop. This
left the last loop with enough slack to disconnect it
<BR>&
BR>>
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| Subject: | Re: osh campingosh camping |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Joel Mapes" <foxfloatflyer@hotmail.com>
To All Foxes on Floats,
Just a reminder that NWEAA at Arlington, Washington in conjunction with the
Washington Seaplane Pilots Association is holding a splash-in concurrent
with the NWEAA fly-in. Please see the NWEAA website
http://nweaa.org/Splash-in.cfm for more details.
Joel
Model 5 912 GTA CS prop Aerocomp amphibs (first flight coming soon)
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| Subject: | Re: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
Don we ran flexible tube (scat?) from the NACA vents to airline type control
vents on the instrument panel, one either side. The tube is easily
disconnected when the cowl is removed.
I think the controllers (twist for air - twist for off) came from Aircraft
Spruce.
Kerry - S5 builders helper
Still dealing with engine problems. Flights limited to runway hops.
>From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS
>Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 07:09:18 -0700
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
>Hi, Don,
>
>Most I have seen have simply stuffed a sponge or something like that in
>the
>vent. When I was at United Airlines and building, I noticed the Boeing 737
>had a door on their vents that fed air to the APU. I liked that idea and
>put doors on mine.
>
>Lowell
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Donald STEVENSON" <shericom@rogers.com>
>To: "Kitfox List" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:27 AM
>Subject: Kitfox-List: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON
><shericom@rogers.com>
> >
> > Hi everyone, Can someone tell me if NACA type vents supplied with the M4
> > KF can be closed in any way? I do not see that they come with any type
>of
> > door or flap to adjust or close them off when O/S air is not required.
> > Winters get cold in Canada!
> > Thanks, Don
> >
> > Don Stevenson, Caledon Ontario Canada
> > M4/1200-912s
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| Subject: | Re: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
I used Van's NACA vents. They come with a plastic eyeball and lots of duct. I
did not use the duct. I got an automotive heater hose that fit snugly around
the round outlet of the vent and the inlet of the eyeball. The heater hose appr
3 in long acts as a coupler between the vent and the eyeball. I am very pleased
in Central Georgia with the overall performance. Rarely the passenger
side pops off since I am too lazy to wrap some tape and snug the fit.
Maxwell
Kerry Skyring <kerryskyring@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring"
Don we ran flexible tube (scat?) from the NACA vents to airline type control
vents on the instrument panel, one either side. The tube is easily
disconnected when the cowl is removed.
I think the controllers (twist for air - twist for off) came from Aircraft
Spruce.
Kerry - S5 builders helper
Still dealing with engine problems. Flights limited to runway hops.
>From: "Lowell Fitt"
>To:
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS
>Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 07:09:18 -0700
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt"
>
>Hi, Don,
>
>Most I have seen have simply stuffed a sponge or something like that in
>the
>vent. When I was at United Airlines and building, I noticed the Boeing 737
>had a door on their vents that fed air to the APU. I liked that idea and
>put doors on mine.
>
>Lowell
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Donald STEVENSON"
>To: "Kitfox List"
>Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:27 AM
>Subject: Kitfox-List: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON
>
> >
> > Hi everyone, Can someone tell me if NACA type vents supplied with the M4
> > KF can be closed in any way? I do not see that they come with any type
>of
> > door or flap to adjust or close them off when O/S air is not required.
> > Winters get cold in Canada!
> > Thanks, Don
> >
> > Don Stevenson, Caledon Ontario Canada
> > M4/1200-912s
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| Subject: | Re: Wing types KF IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
Hi Ron, Just as a point of intrest, the M4 speedster I am building is number GBS032
I purchased it from a gentlemen in California who took delivery from SS in
92 and never finished it. I just started to cover the wings yesterday. Don
Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario Canada
M4/1200 Speedster -912S
ron schick <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by:
"ron schick"
Mine is GBS 033 G=7th month B=1992 S= speedster 033 is serial ???
Skystar said it was a Denny aircraft, but I think it is their serial system.
Right on the Denney/ Skystar sale time frame.
Ron NB Or
>From: Guy Buchanan
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Wing types KF IV
>Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:31:59 -0700
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan
>
>Torgeir,
> What does it mean if your serial number is HCU089?!?!?!? =-O
>
>
>Guy Buchanan
>K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
>Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@sbcglobal.net>
I routed the air to an aircraft vent(1 on each side) from a 767 cabin
overhead units that has a shutoff . just spin the nozel and the air stoped.
it fit the standard scat tubing and looks good on the pannel. it is also
directional. I think you can order them from some of the catalogs. If you
would like pictures let me know. It works great and is almost to easy to
install
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Hi, Don,
Most I have seen have simply stuffed a sponge or something like that in the
vent. When I was at United Airlines and building, I noticed the Boeing 737
had a door on their vents that fed air to the APU. I liked that idea and
put doors on mine.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald STEVENSON" <shericom@rogers.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:27 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: NACA TYPE CABIN VENTS
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
>
> Hi everyone, Can someone tell me if NACA type vents supplied with the M4
> KF can be closed in any way? I do not see that they come with any type of
> door or flap to adjust or close them off when O/S air is not required.
> Winters get cold in Canada!
> Thanks, Don
>
> Don Stevenson, Caledon Ontario Canada
> M4/1200-912s
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Bungee turns |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
FWIIW, an excellent tool for pulling the shock cord without damaging it is a
(pliers?) made for pulling spark plug wires off an auto while it is running.
NAPA has them.Mary and I can now install one shock cord on out 4-1200 in
about 10 minutes. Larry Huntley
.) I then, using channel-locks,
> (a type of plier with a lot of leverage and a lot of grip area,) and
> working from the center wrap to the outside, pulled all of the "slack" to
> the last loop. This left the last loop with enough slack to disconnect it
> and gain another wrap. Re-connect the end and go through the process
> again.
> I was able to get my full six wraps doing this. You have to be careful
> that
> you don't damage the bungee by crushing or tearing it. I found it wasn't
> too much of a problem.
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing types KF IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
My experience agrees with Ron's. I ordered my kit from Denney in late 2002
and it was deiliverd from Skyster in March 2003 - CCU 008. The "U" is long
wing as I understand it.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Wing types KF IV
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
> Mine is GBS 033 G=7th month B=1992 S= speedster 033 is serial ???
> Skystar said it was a Denny aircraft, but I think it is their serial
> system.
> Right on the Denney/ Skystar sale time frame.
> Ron NB Or
>
>
>>From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
>>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Wing types KF IV
>>Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:31:59 -0700
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
>>
>>Torgeir,
>> What does it mean if your serial number is HCU089?!?!?!? =-O
>>
>>
>>Guy Buchanan
>>K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>>
>>Do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Flybradair@cs.com
Aircraft was completed and signed off on 5/13/05.
First flight was 9/16/05.
Can I make the annual due every September, or does it need to be completed
this month?
Curious about the regulations since it might be due!
Brad Martin
Outback Lyc 0-235L2C
Wichita
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
Brad,
Your inspection is due the last day of 5/2006. If you do this and sign it
off 6/1/2006, next year it will be due the last day of 6/2006 and so on. You
always have til the last day of the month. This means that in reality,you
get 13 months. Once you work your way up to Sept. you can do it in September
every year. Actually,you could do it on time this year to be legal and then
do it again in Sept and do it in Sept thereafter. No reason you can't do 2
inspections in one year. Larry Huntley
----- Original Message -----
From: <Flybradair@cs.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 7:13 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Annual
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Flybradair@cs.com
>
> Aircraft was completed and signed off on 5/13/05.
>
> First flight was 9/16/05.
>
> Can I make the annual due every September, or does it need to be completed
> this month?
>
> Curious about the regulations since it might be due!
>
> Brad Martin
> Outback Lyc 0-235L2C
> Wichita
>
> do not archive
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Brad the annual is good through the end of the month. If you wait until the
first of next month to annual it you will gain a month as it will then
expire at the end of the sixth month. Ron NB Ore
>From: Flybradair@cs.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Annual
>Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 19:13:08 EDT
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Flybradair@cs.com
>
> Aircraft was completed and signed off on 5/13/05.
>
> First flight was 9/16/05.
>
> Can I make the annual due every September, or does it need to be
>completed
>this month?
>
> Curious about the regulations since it might be due!
>
> Brad Martin
> Outback Lyc 0-235L2C
> Wichita
>
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing types KF IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Hi Guy,
You've already got lot's of good response on this one. However, this is an
old topics -and it's Skystar's production numbers as far as I'll know.
The plain number is Denney's production series, and the alpha numeric is
Skystars, -hmmm wonder about the next generations numbering scheme..
John, can you fill in here?
The only place there is some "official" info about; "there is some other
numbers", is in the SB's (service bulletins) and SL's (service letters).
So-, Skystars S/N is "unique" and give all the info about your plane.
Maybe someone know the exact meaning (or coding) of this numbering scheme?
Torgeir.
On Tue, 23 May 2006 08:29:59 -0700, Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
>
> Torgeir,
> What does it mean if your serial number is HCU089?!?!?!? =-O
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
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| Subject: | Re: KF IV Wing Spar reinforcing rings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Hi ! Colin,
Rex here from the Riverland in Sth Aust. My MkIV has
always since I have owned it had a very slight and hard to detect
movement about the front pin that you remove to swing the wing on the
left side. Tony that built it said to keep it oiled as they tend to
chaffe in the hole in the spar. Any way it has got no worse in all the
time I have had it but I don't like it. I bought bolts to replace the
pins and thought of using rubber washers next to the spar tube to hold
it but have never been sure if this is the way to go and have done no
more than keep a close eye on it. I understand it is a common problem
and I imagine this is why you have reiforcing rings. Mine has little
pieces of aluminiun rivetted to the spar over the hole. As you probably
know Tony that built my plane was a mechanical engineer so I took some
comfort in that. This is also the second Kitfox he has built so he
should be pretty well on track I hope. As I never swing the wings and am
not likely to I don't mind fitting the bolts if I get convinced it is a
good idea.
That panel in my plane simply is screwed with about eight small
countersunk nuts and bolts to the bottom edge of the windscreen and that
is it. There is slots cut into it back behind the compass from the edge
where it joins the screen so that it can slide over the bars that get in
the way. The cuts don't improve the looks but I guess it's arkward to do
much different.
Re your next question re the wings. My understanding is that at least
as far as the MK I, II, III & IV go that there is two different wings
apart from speedster that are just shortened about 18" per wing I think
and then there is different tips. I have droop tips and personally I
like them. To me it looks like they may afford some protection if you
happen to loop. Anyway as I understand it the later wing is called
Laminar flow and is virtually flat across the bottom and the faster
wing. The earlier wing is cambered up concave. This is a slower wing
with more lift. According to The Kitfox Pilots Guide by Ed Downs the
later wing came with the MKIV 1050 and carried on to the 1200. I don't
know if the later ones [ 5,6 & 7 ] still use the same wing or not but I
would assume they do.
Rex Shaw.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Re: Wing types KF IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mo" <mo44d@comcast.net>
Skystar's serial number means the following for my serial number,S70505081:
S7 indicates series 7
0505 indicates fuselage fabricated in the 5th month of 2005
081 indicates the 81st S7 built
Mo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Torgeir Mortensen" <torgemor@online.no>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Wing types KF IV
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
>
>
> Hi Guy,
>
> You've already got lot's of good response on this one. However, this is an
> old topics -and it's Skystar's production numbers as far as I'll know.
>
> The plain number is Denney's production series, and the alpha numeric is
> Skystars, -hmmm wonder about the next generations numbering scheme..
> John, can you fill in here?
>
> The only place there is some "official" info about; "there is some other
> numbers", is in the SB's (service bulletins) and SL's (service letters).
>
> So-, Skystars S/N is "unique" and give all the info about your plane.
>
> Maybe someone know the exact meaning (or coding) of this numbering scheme?
>
> Torgeir.
>
>
> On Tue, 23 May 2006 08:29:59 -0700, Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> wrote:
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
> >
> > Torgeir,
> > What does it mean if your serial number is HCU089?!?!?!? =-O
> >
> >
> > Guy Buchanan
> > K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
> >
> > Do not archive
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| Subject: | 2001 Kitfox 4 - 1200 with 912 UL For sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian" <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
Hi List,
I have my Kitfox 4 - 1200 for sale .
2001 Kitfox 4-1200 , Rotax 912 UL , 135 Hrs TTA+E, Long wings with droop
tips, Bungee gear, Blue and White ,Starburst wings, 3-Blade Warp Drive
prop,BRS Parachute, Folding wings, MicroAir Radio, Magellan GPS, King
Mode-C Transponder, NAT Intercom, ELT, Whelen Wingtip Strobes, and Nav
lights,
gallons fuel capacity, LP Bubble doors, Turtledeck, and Windsheild,
Tundra tires, Oil Cooler, Matco Brakes, New tailwheel, and Grove
aluminum
tailspring, Poly fiber, poly tone paint, Speed fairings, 669 LBS Empty
weight, cabin heat.
Flies great. $33,000.
Thats the basics anyways.
Let me know if you have more questions.
Contact me off list for details, pics.
Thanks,
I am in Mass.
Jay
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| Subject: | New Kitfox Owner needing lots of help |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Wilson" <Wilson@REinfo.org>
OK, here it is in a nutshell. I just purchased a Kitfox. Love it.
However, I only have 32 total hours of flying time. That's all, and I
have had one very scary landing. I am strongly considering changing my
plane to a nose gear configuration. Help me here, does anyone know
about a conversion kit? Is it a good idea for as inexperienced as I am?
I really could use some input.
Steve Wilson
Wilson@REinfo.org
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| Subject: | Re: New Kitfox Owner needing lots of help |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 07:37 PM 5/23/2006, you wrote:
>However, I only have 32 total hours of flying time. That's all, and I
>have had one very scary landing.
Well. Let's see... I've got about 200 hours and have had about 100 scary
landings. So... Your're way ahead of me! :-D
Guy
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| Subject: | Re: Wing types KF IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 05:21 PM 5/23/2006, you wrote:
>The only place there is some "official" info about; "there is some other
>numbers", is in the SB's (service bulletins) and SL's (service letters).
That's the problem. The SB's and SL's all reference a four digit number
serial number. I have to go by the manufacturing date. I'd like to
correlate my number to the four digit number. (Although it really doesn't
matter, since I answered every SL and SB that remotely applied.)
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | New Kitfox Owner needing lots of help |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Steve, I am sure you will get lots of replies. My opinion is that it will be
a heck of a lot easier to convert the pilot than convert the airplane.
Every, I mean EVERY taildragger pilot has had scary landings. But as with
most things, practice makes perfect. You need more time, and training too. I
suggest getting some remedial training with a TD instructor, or even go
along with someone who has lots of time in a TD. You should arrange that
before you go out for your next flight. You don't need to damage the KF or
yourself.
As I said, you will be fine once you get some more technique down. Don't
despair, we have been there.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 7:38 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox Owner needing lots of help
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Wilson" <Wilson@REinfo.org>
OK, here it is in a nutshell. I just purchased a Kitfox. Love it.
However, I only have 32 total hours of flying time. That's all, and I
have had one very scary landing. I am strongly considering changing my
plane to a nose gear configuration. Help me here, does anyone know
about a conversion kit? Is it a good idea for as inexperienced as I am?
I really could use some input.
Steve Wilson
Wilson@REinfo.org
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