---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/13/06: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:40 AM - A good message for everybody: (Erol Onder) 2. 02:27 AM - Camera: was Tires (courierboy@earthlink.net) 3. 04:04 AM - Re: More 582 Temperature Questions (Dave G.) 4. 04:13 AM - Re: Tires (Michel Verheughe) 5. 04:20 AM - Re: More 582 Temperature Questions (Don Smythe) 6. 05:28 AM - Re: More 582 Temperature Questions (Noel Loveys) 7. 07:54 AM - Re: More 582 Temperature Questions (Dave) 8. 07:54 AM - Re: Camera: was Tires (Lowell Fitt) 9. 07:54 AM - Re: Tires (Lowell Fitt) 10. 07:54 AM - Re: Tires (Lowell Fitt) 11. 07:54 AM - Re: More 582 Temperature Questions (Mike Crutchlow) 12. 07:55 AM - Re: Tires (Lowell Fitt) 13. 07:55 AM - Re: Camera Mount (Lowell Fitt) 14. 07:56 AM - Re: More 582 Temperature Questions (kerrjohna@comcast.net) 15. 09:53 AM - Re: Camera: was Tires (courierboy@earthlink.net) 16. 10:45 AM - Re: Tires (Michel Verheughe) 17. 12:38 PM - Re: Camera Mount (was) tires (John Anderson) 18. 01:13 PM - Re: Tires (Jose M. Toro) 19. 03:29 PM - Re: Tires (Noel Loveys) 20. 09:19 PM - Re: More 582 Temperature Questions (Guy Buchanan) 21. 10:36 PM - Re: More 582 Temperature Questions (Dave) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:40:14 AM PST US From: "Erol Onder" Subject: Kitfox-List: A good message for everybody: --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found --- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:25 AM PST US From: courierboy@earthlink.net Subject: Kitfox-List: Camera: was Tires --> Kitfox-List message posted by: courierboy@earthlink.net Lowell - Any chance you'll release a dvd of your escapades that we could purchase? I'd sure like to see what you see during your wanderings, especially approaches and departures in the back country. Thank you and Kay for another matchless fly-in. It's a treat to see so many (10-15?) fine examples of the Kitfox - and those equally fine "brand-x" airplanes that attended! Bill Mills Castro Valley >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" > >John, > >I have a video camera mounted in that housing. The camera can be >controlled by a joy stick mounted between the seats using 1/8" >aircraft cable. Movement is about 180* horizontal and 45* in the >vertical axis. It has controls for record / pause, auto / manual >focus, auto / hold aperture, zoom and it has a wiper to get bugs off >the lens. Mounted on the door is a monitor for viewing what the >camerqa sees. It has been a long project and is still evolving. > >Lowell ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:34 AM PST US From: "Dave G." Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: More 582 Temperature Questions --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave G." Check the thermostat. If you have an older 582 (pre mod 99) It is my understanding that there must be a hole of some sort in the thermostat to allow a bypass circulation. I think this is done via a passage on the newer 582's. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:18 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Tires Thank you for your answers, guys, but I don't know what to think. > From: jdmcbean [jdmcbean@cableone.net] > I have sold several of the King Fox treadles tires 21 X 12 X 8 and > have not heard any negative feedback. Please look at the enclosed drawing, John. I can't figure it out. Somewhere I must misunderstand something. How can a 12 inches wide tyre fit a 6 inches wheel? PS: my drawing was done to scale. It should be pretty exact. The Alaska tyres look great but ... they are for 6" wheels, aren't they? Cheers, Michel ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:20:58 AM PST US From: "Don Smythe" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: More 582 Temperature Questions --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" Guy, If you suspect the exhaust pipe, go to an auto parts place and purchase a cheap extension about 6" long. Temporarily clamp it on and then go taxi. I had to add an extension to mine after the cowl/radiator mods. I used a similar extension but had it welded on as the final mod. I don't think adding a short extension on the radiator outlet changes power. Of course, if you ran it all the way to the tailwheel that might make a difference. Don Smythe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Buchanan" > Sort of. I have a cowl over the radiator that might deflect the exhaust > away, but I'm guessing that the circularity of the slipstream probably > runs at least some of it in. Did you make your extension from standard > pipe? > > > Guy ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:28:24 AM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: More 582 Temperature Questions --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Noel Loveys" Just make a short extruder tube long enough to by pass the rad. The cold air from the extruder will quiet your exhaust and keep the belly of your plane clean. Chrome it and when people ask you what it is tell them it's the smoke system;^) Noel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Don Smythe > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:48 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: More 582 Temperature Questions > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" > > Guy, > If you suspect the exhaust pipe, go to an auto parts > place and purchase > a cheap extension about 6" long. Temporarily clamp it on and > then go taxi. > I had to add an extension to mine after the cowl/radiator > mods. I used a > similar extension but had it welded on as the final mod. I > don't think > adding a short extension on the radiator outlet changes > power. Of course, > if you ran it all the way to the tailwheel that might make a > difference. > > Don Smythe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Guy Buchanan" > > > Sort of. I have a cowl over the radiator that might deflect > the exhaust > > away, but I'm guessing that the circularity of the > slipstream probably > > runs at least some of it in. Did you make your extension > from standard > > pipe? > > > > > > Guy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:34 AM PST US From: "Dave" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: More 582 Temperature Questions --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" Guy, could you take a picute of your setup ? Now that attachments can be added to post it would make it more clear. Did you say you have a cowl over the radiator or is it original? And how did you maintain 175 F on breakin but not now ? I assume with a hose? New engines will generally run hotter for the first 10 to 20 hours as well. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Buchanan" Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 6:22 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: More 582 Temperature Questions > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan > > At 02:45 PM 6/12/2006, you wrote: >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mike Crutchlow" >> >>Guy, >>Do you have the short exhaust stack that blows on to the rad? > > Sort of. I have a cowl over the radiator that might deflect the exhaust > away, but I'm guessing that the circularity of the slipstream probably > runs at least some of it in. Did you make your extension from standard > pipe? > > > Guy > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:34 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Camera: was Tires --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Bill, that was the reason for the whole thing. The problem is that editing, I find very time consuming and it is hard to devote a whole day - actually many whole days, in front of the computer. The guys I fly with are losing their patience with me though, so something will be forthcoming. I don't know when, though. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 1:12 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Camera: was Tires > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: courierboy@earthlink.net > > Lowell - > > Any chance you'll release a dvd of your escapades that we could purchase? > I'd sure like to see what you see during your wanderings, especially > approaches and departures in the back country. > > Thank you and Kay for another matchless fly-in. It's a treat to see so > many (10-15?) fine examples of the Kitfox - and those equally fine > "brand-x" airplanes that attended! > > Bill Mills > Castro Valley > > >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" >> >>John, >> >>I have a video camera mounted in that housing. The camera can be >>controlled by a joy stick mounted between the seats using 1/8" aircraft >>cable. Movement is about 180* horizontal and 45* in the vertical axis. It >>has controls for record / pause, auto / manual focus, auto / hold >>aperture, zoom and it has a wiper to get bugs off the lens. Mounted on >>the door is a monitor for viewing what the camerqa sees. It has been a >>long project and is still evolving. >> >>Lowell > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:35 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tires --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" John, Not that I am aware of. From the beginning, I had a little yaw to the left needing right rudder. It didn't seem to affect that. I have a trim wedge taped to the rudder now. A recent flight denonstrated that I have a break in the zoom circuit that needs fixing. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Anderson" Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 8:02 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tires > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" Ah...great idea Lowell, > might do the same myself. No adverse effect in flight? John > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: "Lowell Fitt" > To: > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tires > Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:03:31 -0700 > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" > > John, > > I have a video camera mounted in that housing. The camera can be > controlled by a joy stick mounted between the seats using 1/8" aircraft > cable. Movement is about 180* horizontal and 45* in the vertical axis. It > has controls for record / pause, auto / manual focus, auto / hold > aperture, zoom and it has a wiper to get bugs off the lens. Mounted on > the door is a monitor for viewing what the camerqa sees. It has been a > long project and is still evolving. > > Lowell > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Anderson" > > To: > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 6:27 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tires > > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" What is that > >attached to the strut Lowell? John > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > From: "Lowell Fitt" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tires > > Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:13:36 -0700 > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" > > > > > > I have been using thest tires for the past couple of years. I >bought > two sets and am still on the first ones with no obvious wear >- no threads > showing. The vast majority of my landings are on >pavement. On the > original Skyster rims, they look like the >Bushwheel tires mentioned by > Rob. > > > > I like the looks, and the only negative is that they cost a mile >or > two in cruise, which doesn't bother me. > > > > Sportflight has a picture at : > > > > > > >http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=1075488689 > > > > Lowell > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 4:52 PM > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tires > > > > > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex > > > > > >Or wider replacement rims? Those tires appear to be new rubber > > >(wiskers visible) instead of the ground-off type like many of us > >have. > > >Rex > > >Colorado/Florida > > > > > > > > >Michel Verheughe wrote: > > > > > >> > > >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe > > >> > > >> > > >>On Jun 12, 2006, at 7:26 PM, kitfoxjunky wrote: > > >> > > >>>http://www.mipowerparachute.com/Tires.html > > >> > > >> > > >>Hello Gary, your email will enable me to kill two birds with one > > >>stone! :-) > > >> > > >>I am also looking for a replacement for my Cheng Shin 20 x 7.00 >- 8 > >>smooth tyres. My good friend Rex Shaw from this list, tells >me that > >>he is very satisfied with his Goodyear Softrac 18 x 6.50 - >8 tyres > >>that has 4 plies (twice as much as our Cheng Shin) but >they have a > >>shallow tread. > > >> > > >>He also directed me to mipowerparachute.com but their tyres are >12" > >>wide and the minimal rim width is 7" >From my builder manual, >I > >>understand that our wheels are 8" in diameter and 6" as rim >width. > > >>So, I wrote to mipowerparachute.com and a gentleman called Kevin > > >>Ridsdale wrote back that I should talk to our John McBean to >obtain > >>tyres that will fit our wheels. > > >> > > >>So (and that is the second bird!) John, do you have something >that > >>will suit our Kitfoxes 3 and IV? > > >> > > >>Otherwise, the Goodyear tyres from Rex looks like this: > > >> > > >>http://www.goodyear.ca/tires/tirecatalog/STRAC_RSSize.html > > >> > > >>Cheers, > > >>Michel > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > > >>http://wiki.matronics.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >-- > > >Karla and Rex Hefferan > > >Gypsy Bee ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:35 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tires --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Michel, I just re-read you post, I think the wheels are 7" across the beads and 8" dia. I just did a rough measure on an extra I have. The previous post shows the tires mounted. They look puffy, but they work great and I like them. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Verheughe" Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:02 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Tires > > > Thank you for your answers, guys, but I don't know what to think. > >> From: jdmcbean [jdmcbean@cableone.net] >> I have sold several of the King Fox treadles tires 21 X 12 X 8 and >> have not heard any negative feedback. > > Please look at the enclosed drawing, John. I can't figure it out. > Somewhere I must misunderstand something. How can a 12 inches wide tyre > fit a 6 inches wheel? > PS: my drawing was done to scale. It should be pretty exact. > > The Alaska tyres look great but ... they are for 6" wheels, aren't they? > > > Cheers, > Michel > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:35 AM PST US From: "Mike Crutchlow" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: More 582 Temperature Questions --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mike Crutchlow" I've never flown it without the extension so I can't judge the power difference. It does NOT lack for power with the pipe. Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan Sent: June 12, 2006 11:07 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: More 582 Temperature Questions --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan At 07:12 PM 6/12/2006, you wrote: >It keeps the exhaust heat away from the rad and the landing gear (leg >and bungee) stays clean. See the attached photo. WOW! Now that's a pipe, baby! I wonder if it modifies the horsepower curve? Guy Buchanan K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:43 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tires Michel, the drawing is pretty accurate, but the cross section is more round. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Verheughe" Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:02 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Tires > > > Thank you for your answers, guys, but I don't know what to think. > >> From: jdmcbean [jdmcbean@cableone.net] >> I have sold several of the King Fox treadles tires 21 X 12 X 8 and >> have not heard any negative feedback. > > Please look at the enclosed drawing, John. I can't figure it out. > Somewhere I must misunderstand something. How can a 12 inches wide tyre > fit a 6 inches wheel? > PS: my drawing was done to scale. It should be pretty exact. > > The Alaska tyres look great but ... they are for 6" wheels, aren't they? > > > Cheers, > Michel > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:43 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Camera Mount --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Dave, I wish I could produce them. Maybe someday if I can figure out a way to tool up for it. It was all a oneoff project with a lot of trial and error. I'll post some more pictures on the sportflight site in it'spresent version. For camera control, I use the infrared remote mounted near the camera with the IF LED repositioned to the front of the camera and push button switches hard wired into the appropriate traces on the remote circuit board. The bug wiper is a roll of the clear plastic that MotoCross racers use on their goggles. It is advanced by a miniature servo with stops removed driven by a 'servo tester". Miniature solenoids push the buttons on the side of the camera for focus and f-stop. Camera movement is controlled by the cables. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Camera Mount > Can you buy that mount? > > Dave KF2 > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:18 AM PST US From: kerrjohna@comcast.net Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: More 582 Temperature Questions That pipe extension might also be a contributing factor for the heat problem? -------------- Original message -------------- From: Guy Buchanan > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan > > At 07:12 PM 6/12/2006, you wrote: > >It keeps the exhaust heat away from the rad and the landing gear (leg > >and bungee) stays clean. See the attached photo. > > WOW! Now that's a pipe, baby! I wonder if it modifies the horsepower curve? > > > Guy Buchanan > K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. > > Do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
That pipe extension might also be a contributing factor for the heat problem?
 
ns pag ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:53:46 AM PST US From: courierboy@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Camera: was Tires --> Kitfox-List message posted by: courierboy@earthlink.net Lowell - Understood - I'll stay tuned. Bill >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" > >Bill, that was the reason for the whole thing. The problem is that >editing, I find very time consuming and it is hard to devote a whole >day - actually many whole days, in front of the computer. The guys >I fly with are losing their patience with me though, so something >will be forthcoming. I don't know when, though. > >Lowell ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:45:53 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tires --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe On Jun 13, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote: > I think the wheels are 7" across the beads and 8" dia. Well, Lowell, I don't know anything about tyres and I may be reading wrong and mixing different things. But in my Kitfox 3 Construction Manual from Denney Aerocraft Company, I have, in the parts list: 2 LW-27R Wheels; main gear, aluminium, 8" dia., 6" wide. I "think" that is what is called "rim width" in other places. And the King Fox tyres state that the minimum "rim width" should be 7". Also, I would think that any tyre is smaller at the "rim" than it widest part. Since the Cheng Shin are 7" wide, I'd expect that their "rim" is slightly smaller than that. > The previous post shows the tires mounted. I am sorry but I couldn't open the attachments to your previous email, Lowell. Cheers, Michel ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:38:50 PM PST US From: "John Anderson" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Camera Mount (was) tires --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found --- ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:13:40 PM PST US From: "Jose M. Toro" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tires --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" Michel: I use in my Kitfox McCreary Aviation Grade tires 8.00-8. This means this tires are 8 inches wide, for 8 inches wheels. They are 20 inches tall, are heavier than any other tire, fit perfectly on the wheels, and should last "forever". Hope this information helps somehow! Saludos! Jose __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:29:16 PM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Tires --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Noel Loveys" I have Armstrong 21X7-6 tires on my 'fox. I really can't say how well they work as I've only gotten to taxi once on wheels. Areocet Floats make more sense here for most of the year. Noel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Jose M. Toro > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 5:42 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tires > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" > > > Michel: > > I use in my Kitfox McCreary Aviation Grade tires > 8.00-8. This means this tires are 8 inches wide, for > 8 inches wheels. They are 20 inches tall, are heavier > than any other tire, fit perfectly on the wheels, and > should last "forever". > > Hope this information helps somehow! > > Saludos! > > Jose > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:19:32 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: More 582 Temperature Questions At 05:49 AM 6/13/2006, you wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" > >Guy, could you take a picute of your setup ? Now that attachments can be >added to post it would make it more clear. Did you say you have a cowl >over the radiator or is it original? I think it's the Speedster cowl. I've added a back plate which forces all the incoming air through the radiator. I'll dig up a picture. >And how did you maintain 175 F on breakin but not now ? I assume with a >hose? >New engines will generally run hotter for the first 10 to 20 hours as well. I don't know. Bob Robertson did the break in. I'm going to try the hose because I have to do more full throttle static runs. I'm going to put the mains on stands and run it for a while with the tanks near empty to make sure I've got good fuel flow. I'm then going to check flows with the tanks full. I'll probably put at least an hour on it static so I'll want the capability to keep it cool. Guy Buchanan K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:36:45 PM PST US From: "Dave" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: More 582 Temperature Questions --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" Guy nice pics, It might be me, but that air scoop looks like it is restricted by the cowl exit. That rad cowl i doubt will help you on cooling on the ground. In the air I am not sure. Bob Robertson is a good guy and I would expect he had no cooling issues but most likely a larger cooling source than a OEM Skystar rad. My rad is about 4 inch x 20 inch by 2 inch thick with 582. Fuel flow can be checked static as well. You will need min. 6 to 7 gals free flow per hour from gravity alone. You should get increased fuel flow from Pitot tubes on caps if they sealed properly. Sharp looking Kitfox and I hope the temperature does not run as red as the paint job :) I see that it is 99.9 % done - does that mean a test flight any day now ? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Buchanan" Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:11 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: More 582 Temperature Questions > At 05:49 AM 6/13/2006, you wrote: >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" >> >>Guy, could you take a picute of your setup ? Now that attachments can be >>added to post it would make it more clear. Did you say you have a cowl >>over the radiator or is it original? > > I think it's the Speedster cowl. I've added a back plate which forces all > the incoming air through the radiator. I'll dig up a picture. > > >>And how did you maintain 175 F on breakin but not now ? I assume with a >>hose? >>New engines will generally run hotter for the first 10 to 20 hours as >>well. > > I don't know. Bob Robertson did the break in. I'm going to try the hose > because I have to do more full throttle static runs. I'm going to put the > mains on stands and run it for a while with the tanks near empty to make > sure I've got good fuel flow. I'm then going to check flows with the tanks > full. I'll probably put at least an hour on it static so I'll want the > capability to keep it cool. > > > Guy Buchanan > K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.