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1. 03:37 AM - Re: Warp drive hub. (Michel Verheughe)
2. 03:50 AM - Re: Taiwan tyres (Michel Verheughe)
3. 04:17 AM - Re: Taiwan tyres (Jose M. Toro)
4. 04:19 AM - unbuilt kitfox 7 kit for sale (tony fiacco)
5. 05:12 AM - Re: The "Claw" tie down (kurt schrader)
6. 05:14 AM - Re: Taiwan tyres (kurt schrader)
7. 05:45 AM - Re: The "Claw" tie down (Larry Huntley)
8. 06:58 AM - Re: Taiwan tyres (Fox5flyer)
9. 07:47 AM - Garmin Service (Randy Daughenbaugh)
10. 09:13 AM - Re: Taiwan tyres (Jose M. Toro)
11. 09:26 AM - Re: Taiwan tyres (Michel Verheughe)
12. 09:28 AM - Re: Garmin Service (Michel Verheughe)
13. 10:51 AM - Re: Taiwan tyres (Richard Rabbers)
14. 11:13 AM - 582 - compression test (Marco Menezes)
15. 12:27 PM - Re: Garmin Service (Aerobatics@aol.com)
16. 02:27 PM - Re: 582 - compression test (Lowell Fitt)
17. 02:50 PM - Re: Re: Taiwan tyres (Michel Verheughe)
18. 03:01 PM - Re: 582 - compression test (Larry Huntley)
19. 03:02 PM - Re: Re: Taiwan tyres (Larry Huntley)
20. 03:15 PM - Re: Warp drive hub.Very Strange (Clint Bazzill)
21. 03:30 PM - Re: Taiwan tyres (kurt schrader)
22. 03:33 PM - Re: Taiwan tyres (kurt schrader)
23. 03:47 PM - Re: Warp drive hub. (kurt schrader)
24. 03:59 PM - Re: Warp drive hub.Very Strange (kurt schrader)
25. 04:16 PM - Arlington 2006 (John)
26. 06:18 PM - Re: Garmin Service (Rex)
27. 06:18 PM - Re: Taiwan tyres (Jose M. Toro)
28. 06:27 PM - Re: 582 - compression test (Noel Loveys)
29. 09:35 PM - Re: Warp drive hub. (John Anderson)
30. 09:36 PM - Re: 582 - compression test (Guy Buchanan)
31. 09:37 PM - Re: Warp drive hub. (John Anderson)
32. 09:44 PM - Re: Warp drive hub. (John Anderson)
33. 10:02 PM - Re: Warp drive hub.Very Strange (John Anderson)
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From: kurt schrader smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com
> Michel,
> I thought you were the smart one.... Now what???
Well Kurt, when Mathilde, my 10 1/2 months old grand-daughter, listens while staring
at me with her big round eyes, wondering how much wisdom can come out of
my lips - she usually concludes by saying: "Geeee, yeeeahhh, gaga! ... ga?"
... it says it all, doesn't it? :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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Hello Kurt and Jose,
Yes, I could inflate to less than 30 psi. What worries me, then, is that the tube
might turn in the tyre and tear off the valves. ... or, am I over-reacting?
> From: kurt schrader [smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com]
> It looks like the bead at the wheel is the widest part
> of the tire now. Is that correct?
Yes, it looks like it, Kurt.
> If so, the sidewall flex is limited and will make them ride
> harder.
Good thinking! ... do you know of any good pillow manufacturer? :-)
> How is the
> engine cooling working out flying in the hot weather?
I don't know how to say this but ... even the Scandinavian Jabiru dealer doesn't
believe me when I say how cool my engine is. I think I've been very lucky in
my cowling forming and that it really "suck the air out of that hot stuff." :-)
Anyway, my CHT only goes over 110 C on the ground. Once in the air, even on the
hottest day, it hardly reaching 100 C. With 180 C as max CHT, I am flying ...
a cool engine at any time! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
Michel:
I don't think it will tear off the valve, but I'm just
guessing. I would try 20 pounds and do some taxing
and speed taxing. I use 8 pounds in my McCreary
tires.
Jose
--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
> Hello Kurt and Jose,
> Yes, I could inflate to less than 30 psi. What
> worries me, then, is that the tube might turn in the
> tyre and tear off the valves. ... or, am I
> over-reacting?
>
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| Subject: | unbuilt kitfox 7 kit for sale |
i have an unbuilt kitfox 7 for sale.
i paid over 23,000 for the kit, it has all available quick build options
it is missing about 2,500 worth of off the shelf parts that are readily available.
i will sell the kit for 19,000.
contact me for any pics
i am located in upstate ny and will consider delivery for a nominal charge, or
will crate and ship
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| Subject: | Re: The "Claw" tie down |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
So basically the Claw has the holding power of a good
shovel full of soil. How hard it is to break a shovel
full out is all they will provide. Depends upon the
soil consistancy that day.
The screw in ones could pull out a post hole size to
their debth, or a widening cone size depending on the
soil consistancy. Getting it in is the problem.
Still seems like you need 2 types to deal with soft or
hard soil???
Kurt S.
--- Larry Huntley <asq1@adelphia.net> wrote:
> The ones I saw just plucked a disc of dirt out of
> the wet,soft ground.
> Larry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:23 PM
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> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
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> >
> > Maybe I missed it. Did they just pull out, or did
> > they fail and break? Soft earth or weak parts?
> >
> > I agree with the weight problem and also it looks
> like
> > they take up a good bit of room.
> >
> > Kurt S.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I agree with Jose. I like the 1% of gross weight rule
as a minimum. Your plane is light too. I think 20
would be just fine, but with the sidewalls tapered so,
it will still be stiff. The sidewalls bending is what
absorbes the bumps and tapered out to the wheel makes
them stiffer, I think.
Kurt S.
--- "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Michel:
>
> I don't think it will tear off the valve, but I'm
> just
> guessing. I would try 20 pounds and do some taxing
> and speed taxing. I use 8 pounds in my McCreary
> tires.
>
> Jose
>
> --- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
>
> > Hello Kurt and Jose,
> > Yes, I could inflate to less than 30 psi. What
> > worries me, then, is that the tube might turn in
> the
> > tyre and tear off the valves. ... or, am I
> > over-reacting?
> >
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| Subject: | Re: The "Claw" tie down |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
I think you are right. The claw would probably work well in hard stony
soil,but the screws,longer and larger dia. the better,would work better in
soft soils. Of course if you get into hard soil and get the screw wrapped
around some underground rock,depth isn't as important.
Would be good to carry both,if weight were not the problem.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 8:10 AM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> So basically the Claw has the holding power of a good
> shovel full of soil. How hard it is to break a shovel
> full out is all they will provide. Depends upon the
> soil consistancy that day.
>
> The screw in ones could pull out a post hole size to
> their debth, or a widening cone size depending on the
> soil consistancy. Getting it in is the problem.
>
> Still seems like you need 2 types to deal with soft or
> hard soil???
>
> Kurt S.
>
> --- Larry Huntley <asq1@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>
>> The ones I saw just plucked a disc of dirt out of
>> the wet,soft ground.
>> Larry
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:23 PM
>>
>>
>> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
>> > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>> >
>> > Maybe I missed it. Did they just pull out, or did
>> > they fail and break? Soft earth or weak parts?
>> >
>> > I agree with the weight problem and also it looks
>> like
>> > they take up a good bit of room.
>> >
>> > Kurt S.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Taiwan tyres |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Yes, Michel. It would probably have to get down around 5lbs or less to turn
it. I think you could easily use 15 lbs and have a better ride.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 6:49 AM
> Hello Kurt and Jose,
> Yes, I could inflate to less than 30 psi. What worries me, then, is that
the tube might turn in the tyre and tear off the valves. ... or, am I
over-reacting?
>
> > From: kurt schrader [smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com]
> > It looks like the bead at the wheel is the widest part
> > of the tire now. Is that correct?
>
> Yes, it looks like it, Kurt.
>
> > If so, the sidewall flex is limited and will make them ride
> > harder.
>
> Good thinking! ... do you know of any good pillow manufacturer? :-)
>
> > How is the
> > engine cooling working out flying in the hot weather?
>
> I don't know how to say this but ... even the Scandinavian Jabiru dealer
doesn't believe me when I say how cool my engine is. I think I've been very
lucky in my cowling forming and that it really "suck the air out of that hot
stuff." :-)
> Anyway, my CHT only goes over 110 C on the ground. Once in the air, even
on the hottest day, it hardly reaching 100 C. With 180 C as max CHT, I am
flying ... a cool engine at any time! :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
This is a pat on the back to Garmin.
My GPS map 196 started cutting off at random times and then was hard to turn
on. I called customer support and after describing what it was doing they
said to send it in. A few days later, I received a new one to replace my
old one.
That is good support!
Randy
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
Michel:
I mentioned 20 pounds just as a starting point for a
trial and error process. I would be looking for close
to 10 pounds.
Jose
--- kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> I agree with Jose. I like the 1% of gross weight
> rule
> as a minimum. Your plane is light too. I think 20
> would be just fine, but with the sidewalls tapered
> so,
> it will still be stiff. The sidewalls bending is
> what
> absorbes the bumps and tapered out to the wheel
> makes
> them stiffer, I think.
>
> Kurt S.
>
> --- "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
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| Subject: | Re: Taiwan tyres |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Thanks Jose, Kurt and Deke.
... Fox Control, Lima-lima-tango leaving three-zero psi for two-five!
:-)
Deke, you say 5 psi, but my old Cheng Shin had about 12 psi and on one
tyre, the tube had already turned a bit in such a way that the valve
was pointing at an odd angle. Sooo, I'll decrease the pressure but
slowly and carefully.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin Service |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Jun 28, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
> That is good support!
Indeed, Randy. Thanks for sharing also the good news! ... the world can
do with some good news, now and then, isn't it?
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Taiwan tyres |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com>
Since tires / tyres don't spend that much time on the pavement (or grass) so probably
don't heat up too much.... would a light coating of spray adhesive make
sense to old the tube in place?
?????????????
Just a thought.
Richard
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=43597#43597
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| Subject: | 582 - compression test |
Hello KF listers.
I'm doing my annual condition inspection and one of the items is to check cylinder
compression. Is there a recommended technique for the 582 with Ducati CDI?
I recall reading that the CDI modules can be fried by cranking the engine with
plugs disconnected. Will simply grounding the disconnected plug suffice to
prevent damage to modules?
As always, thanks for your assistance.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin Service |
In a message dated 6/28/2006 9:48:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
rjdaugh@rapidnet.com writes:
This is a pat on the back to Garmin.
My GPS map 196 started cutting off at random times and then was hard to turn
on. I called customer support and after describing what it was doing they
said to send it in. A few days later, I received a new one to replace my
old one.
That is good support!
Randy
I have IQ 3600 by Garmin and sat on it... ops, there went that nice color
screen. Totally my fault and I have had it for 2 years. It was replaced with
a
new unit with all updates for 75 bucks, and that included next day shipping!
I also have a old 195, works perfectly
You get what you pay for. I would buy another Garmin in a heart beat.
Dave
KF2 582 Blue head
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| Subject: | Re: 582 - compression test |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Marco,
With the 912, The recommended technique is to use a differential compression
testor. It has of two dials and you attach the unit in the spark plug hole
and after findind top dead center pressurize to 80 lbs. using the attached
pressure regulator. The unit will then read the pressure in the cylinder -
usually a bit under the 80 lb. reference pressure. In our manual, it gives
the acceptable tolerance.
The only hazard is when the piston is not at TDC. If this is the case, the
piston will be forced down with the pressure and the prop will turn.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:12 AM
> Hello KF listers.
>
> I'm doing my annual condition inspection and one of the items is to check
> cylinder compression. Is there a recommended technique for the 582 with
> Ducati CDI? I recall reading that the CDI modules can be fried by cranking
> the engine with plugs disconnected. Will simply grounding the disconnected
> plug suffice to prevent damage to modules?
>
> As always, thanks for your assistance.
>
>
> Marco Menezes
> Model 2 582 N99KX
>
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| Subject: | Re: Taiwan tyres |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Jun 28, 2006, at 7:48 PM, Richard Rabbers wrote:
> Since tires / tyres don't spend that much time on the pavement (or
> grass) so probably don't heat up too much.... would a light coating of
> spray adhesive make sense to old the tube in place?
I think it would but I am not sure it is the problem, Richard. I think
that, when you land, the tyres, if not very inflated, tend to rotate,
with the tube, in relation to the wheel and the hole where the valve
sticks out. If something should be glued, it must be the tyre to the
wheel.
Actually, someone told me today that dragsters have wooden pegs through
the side of the wheel to keep the tyre (and ultimately, the tube) in
place when they "burn rubber."
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: 582 - compression test |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
Yes, the prop will turn. VIOLENTLY. Please be careful. Larry
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:23 PM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Marco,
>
> With the 912, The recommended technique is to use a differential
> compression testor. It has of two dials and you attach the unit in the
> spark plug hole and after findind top dead center pressurize to 80 lbs.
> using the attached pressure regulator. The unit will then read the
> pressure in the cylinder - usually a bit under the 80 lb. reference
> pressure. In our manual, it gives the acceptable tolerance.
>
> The only hazard is when the piston is not at TDC. If this is the case,
> the piston will be forced down with the pressure and the prop will turn.
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:12 AM
>
>
>> Hello KF listers.
>>
>> I'm doing my annual condition inspection and one of the items is to
>> check cylinder compression. Is there a recommended technique for the 582
>> with Ducati CDI? I recall reading that the CDI modules can be fried by
>> cranking the engine with plugs disconnected. Will simply grounding the
>> disconnected plug suffice to prevent damage to modules?
>>
>> As always, thanks for your assistance.
>>
>>
>> Marco Menezes
>> Model 2 582 N99KX
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Taiwan tyres |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
Something that will make the problem worse is the common practice of using
Talcum or "baby" powder to make the tube settle in better. Avoid this if you
are concerned about slippage. Larry
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:49 PM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> On Jun 28, 2006, at 7:48 PM, Richard Rabbers wrote:
>> Since tires / tyres don't spend that much time on the pavement (or grass)
>> so probably don't heat up too much.... would a light coating of spray
>> adhesive make sense to old the tube in place?
>
> I think it would but I am not sure it is the problem, Richard. I think
> that, when you land, the tyres, if not very inflated, tend to rotate, with
> the tube, in relation to the wheel and the hole where the valve sticks
> out. If something should be glued, it must be the tyre to the wheel.
> Actually, someone told me today that dragsters have wooden pegs through
> the side of the wheel to keep the tyre (and ultimately, the tube) in place
> when they "burn rubber."
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
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| Subject: | Warp drive hub.Very Strange |
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Right. I should have said 20 psi to start. I use 20
psi on my heavy Fox and Michel`s is lighter by a
bunch. But his tire size is smaller too.
I'd say 10 is a minimum, for that tire and 12-15
better for no tire/tube slippage. It will still be
firm with those sidewalls flairing out, but the
sidewalls flaired might also makes the bead grip
weaker for the same psi.
Echoing the powder concern, if you are going to steal
the powder from your grandchild Michel, keep it
between the tube and tire, not tube and wheel. You
want the tube more firmly gripping the wheel and let
the tire spin.
Kurt S.
--- "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Michel:
>
> I mentioned 20 pounds just as a starting point for a
> trial and error process. I would be looking for
> close to 10 pounds.
>
> Jose
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| Subject: | Re: Taiwan tyres |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Michel,
Try not to decrease it to failure, then increase. ;-)
Since you say 12 was too low, maybe 15 is the best you
can do. With another 15 in your seat cushion?
Kurt S.
--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
> Thanks Jose, Kurt and Deke.
>
> ... Fox Control, Lima-lima-tango leaving three-zero
> psi for two-five!
> :-)
>
> Deke, you say 5 psi, but my old Cheng Shin had about
> 12 psi and on one
> tyre, the tube had already turned a bit in such a
> way that the valve
> was pointing at an odd angle. Sooo, I'll decrease
> the pressure but
> slowly and carefully.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Definately words of wisdom.... from her. :-)
Kurt s.
--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
> From: kurt schrader smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com
> > Michel,
> > I thought you were the smart one.... Now what???
>
> Well Kurt, when Mathilde, my 10 1/2 months old
> grand-daughter, listens while staring at me with her
> big round eyes, wondering how much wisdom can come
> out of my lips - she usually concludes by saying:
> "Geeee, yeeeahhh, gaga! ... ga?"
> ... it says it all, doesn't it? :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Warp drive hub.Very Strange |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Heck, I was trying to be the resident critic.
Starting at home.... ;-) But I accept being strange.
Actually my friendly test pilot noticed it did't feel
like the right prop on the first two 15 minute
flights. He has a IV with the same prop, but non
turbo NSI. His does 110 mph easily. He also tests
other aircraft and has some experience to call on.
I also see it as running into a wall after 100 mph.
More power = not much but greater fuelflow. I really
hoped to run into VNE before full power with the
turbo. No way! 16 knots to go.
Kurt S.
--- Clint Bazzill <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com> wrote:
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill"
My 2 cents worth again. I haven't heard of anyone
that disliked there engine or prop. Very Strange
world. Clint
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Hello all,
If anyone on this list is going to Arlington this year I would be very
pleased to meet you and connect some faces to the names.
I'll be working in outdoor booth #23 (Yakima Aerosports & Dakota Cub
Aircraft of Alaska), and Camping in site # DI1.
We'll have a message board up for the Super Cubbers, any of you are
welcome to leave / retrieve messages there too.
See you there, and I'll keep the coffee hot.
John Stoner
KF III, 582
Alaska
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin Service |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net>
A few years ago I was on a road trip with my 12Map on I-70 approaching
Kansas City and noticed a waypoint named GARMIN. Garmin Headquarters! I
had been having a problem with the backlight and thought maybe I will
just stop in and see about getting it fixed. I expected to fill in forms
and leave it with them to be fixed and shipped to my home a few days
later. They were not set up for walk in support, but within 10 minutes I
had a new unit with all my memory copied. I still have the 1st units PC
cable and manual since it was not with me on the trip.
I agree, Garmin has great customer support.
Rex
Florida/Colorado
Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
>This is a pat on the back to Garmin.
>
>My GPS map 196 started cutting off at random times and then was hard to turn
>on. I called customer support and after describing what it was doing they
>said to send it in. A few days later, I received a new one to replace my
>old one.
>
>That is good support!
>
>Randy
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Taiwan tyres |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
I like the number. I vote for 15 pounds!!!
--- kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> Michel,
>
> Try not to decrease it to failure, then increase.
> ;-)
>
> Since you say 12 was too low, maybe 15 is the best
> you
> can do. With another 15 in your seat cushion?
>
> Kurt S.
>
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| Subject: | 582 - compression test |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Differential testing not only tells you whether or not you have good
compression but will also tell you if you have bad valve seats , which ones
and whether or not you have bad rings.
Set up the diff test and listen for air at the air intake, the exhaust and
the oil filler to tell where the air is escaping.... It is recommended if
you are listening for air to have two people do the test the strongest one
holds the prop at TDC. I can't see why the diff. test wouldn't work on the
two stroke engines to test the integrity of the piston rings.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Lowell Fitt
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 6:53 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 - compression test
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt"
> <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Marco,
>
> With the 912, The recommended technique is to use a
> differential compression
> testor. It has of two dials and you attach the unit in the
> spark plug hole
> and after findind top dead center pressurize to 80 lbs. using
> the attached
> pressure regulator. The unit will then read the pressure in
> the cylinder -
> usually a bit under the 80 lb. reference pressure. In our
> manual, it gives
> the acceptable tolerance.
>
> The only hazard is when the piston is not at TDC. If this is
> the case, the
> piston will be forced down with the pressure and the prop will turn.
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:12 AM
>
>
> > Hello KF listers.
> >
> > I'm doing my annual condition inspection and one of the
> items is to check
> > cylinder compression. Is there a recommended technique for
> the 582 with
> > Ducati CDI? I recall reading that the CDI modules can be
> fried by cranking
> > the engine with plugs disconnected. Will simply grounding
> the disconnected
> > plug suffice to prevent damage to modules?
> >
> > As always, thanks for your assistance.
> >
> >
> > Marco Menezes
> > Model 2 582 N99KX
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 582 - compression test |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Funny you should ask. I hope I didn't fry my ignition modules, as I just
did a compression test for my DAR sign-off on Friday. I did it the old
fashioned way and came up with 118 psi in each cylinder. As I ran the
engine after I don't think I fried anything, but I didn't do a mag check.
I'll try it tomorrow to make sure.
At 11:12 AM 6/28/2006, you wrote:
>I'm doing my annual condition inspection and one of the items is to check
>cylinder compression. Is there a recommended technique for the 582 with
>Ducati CDI? I recall reading that the CDI modules can be fried by cranking
>the engine with plugs disconnected. Will simply grounding the disconnected
>plug suffice to prevent damage to modules?
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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