Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Mon 07/03/06


Total Messages Posted: 22



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     1. 01:08 AM - Tailwheel leaf spring (Michel Verheughe)
     2. 07:42 AM - Re: Trim servo (Lowell Fitt)
     3. 08:12 AM - Re: Warp drive hub.Very Strange (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
     4. 08:16 AM - Re: Re: 912s vs. Jabiru 3300? (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
     5. 09:08 AM - Re: 912s vs. Jabiru 3300? (kitfoxmike)
     6. 09:37 AM - Re: Trim servo (Dan Billingsley)
     7. 10:59 AM - Re: Trim servo (Donald STEVENSON)
     8. 12:56 PM - eastern canada Kitfox owners (Dave G.)
     9. 01:40 PM - Fw: R3000 engine (Norm)
    10. 02:21 PM - Selling off parts........ (Sid Hausding)
    11. 02:25 PM - Re: 912s vs. Jabiru 3300 (Michael Gibbs)
    12. 02:35 PM - Leaf spring (Michel Verheughe)
    13. 03:13 PM - Re: Leaf spring (ron schick)
    14. 03:18 PM - Re: Leaf spring (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?=)
    15. 03:21 PM - Re: Leaf spring (QSS)
    16. 03:24 PM - Re: Leaf spring (QSS)
    17. 03:27 PM - Re: Leaf spring (Marco Menezes)
    18. 04:31 PM - Re: Leaf spring (kurt schrader)
    19. 05:37 PM - Re: eastern canada Kitfox owners (Noel Loveys)
    20. 05:41 PM - Re: Leaf spring (Lowell Fitt)
    21. 05:56 PM - Re: eastern canada Kitfox owners (dpremgood@AOL.COM)
    22. 06:42 PM - almost ready (Kevin Cozik)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:08:08 AM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Tailwheel leaf spring
    > From: kurt schrader [smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com] > Then some springs from Aircraft Spruce are known to > fit, if you want to send for them. Thanks Kurt, that would be the easiest but ... which one is the one that will fit my model 3? I know that the width is 1 1/4" but what about the angle? Can anyone help me decide which one is correct to fit a Kitfox 3 and a Homebuilder tailwheel? Thanks in advance, Michel


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    Time: 07:42:03 AM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Trim servo
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> My guess here is that the two are different items. the Model IV and Speedster use a MAC servo, a little black square thing that would run about $200. The larger models witht the adjustable horizontal stab use a jack screw. The key words here is the phrase, "electric lift for a boat cover", no way would a MAC servo work on that application. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 7:13 PM > Dan, > That someone was me. You had me contact you off list with a price. I > think I had it listed for 500 and told you 400. I have only the info > Skystar quoted me when I was wanting a spare and that was 1200. I > thought 400 was a steal. If the Part numbers match by all means go with > the new 200 dollar unit. Please send me a pic of the new unit when you > get it so I know what to ask for mine down the road. For those that > may want the one Dan is suggesting, don't tell them it is going on an > airplane. Electric lift for a boat cover maybe. > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan > Billingsley > Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:04 AM > > > Recently someone advertised a trim servo for $400.00...indicating that > he spent $1000 on it new. Are we talking the elevator trim tab servo? I > just checked on new ones and they can be purchased for under $200.00?? > Dan > > AMuller589@aol.com wrote: > > > These can also be repaired economically. > > >


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    Time: 08:12:59 AM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Warp drive hub.Very Strange
    Kurt, another place to look is the horizontal stab incidence. With my IV, I had to fly with down trim (drooped flaperons) initially for straight and level. When I left the trim in place and landed I found that they were hanging down 11*. I raised the leading edge of the horizontal about an inch and a quarter (the IV had 2 options on the plans). And now straight and level has the flaperons in perfect trail and the speed increased as expected. John Kerr -------------- Original message -------------- > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" > > I guess Kurt a bit of trial and error in the flaperon area may tell you a > lot...Spoke to my son (my LAME and rigger). Said if it's flying wings level > and both flapperons travel is the same it should be ok. In my early fixed > wing days we had one C185 that was just a 'dog', from day one and nothing on > earth would make it go..someone put it through fence in the end to nobodys > surprise. Not suggesting you wee love machine is in that cat but I was > flying mine this afternoon and just lower the nose in cruise a little an 110 > just like that?? And hard to slow it on approach too with the tapered > prop... Be good if you were just down the road, we could compare..John > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > > > I just stuck by the book on mine and the rigging > turned out square on the ground and in flight, just > slow. I used a gravity, not digital inclinometer > (?)to get it right. > > I suspect some reflex of the flapperons is called for > and I can do a bit quickly thru the flap linkage. On > the to-do list. > > Thanks John, > > Kurt S. > > --- John Anderson wrote: > > --------------------------------- > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" > Hmmm, I originally set all my controls up with a > spirit level, but then on the final setup used a > electronic inclinonmeter(?spelling) and changed the > flaperons quite a lot. GPS confirms ASI too. Could be > that Kurt. John > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Looking for love? Check out XtraMSN Personals > http://xtramsn.match.com/match/mt.cfm?pg=channel&tcid 0731 > > > > > > > > > > > > > <html><body> <DIV>Kurt, another place to look is the horizontal stab incidence.&nbsp; With my IV, I had to fly with down trim (drooped flaperons) initially for straight and level. When I left the trim in place and landed I found that they were hanging down 11*.&nbsp; I raised the leading edge of the horizontal about an inch and a quarter (the IV had 2 options on the plans). And now straight and level has the flaperons in perfect trail and the speed increased as expected.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>John Kerr</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "John Anderson" &lt;janderson412@hotmail.com&gt; <BR><BR>&gt; --&gt; Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <JANDERSON412@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I guess Kurt a bit of trial and error in the flaperon area may tell you a <BR>&gt; lot...Spoke to my son (my LAME and rigger). Said if it's flying wings level <BR>&gt; and both flapperons travel is the same it should be ok. In my early fixed <BR>&gt; wing days we had one C185 that was just a 'dog', from day one and nothing on <BR>&gt; earth would make it go..someone put it through fence in the end to nobodys <BR>&gt; surprise. Not suggesting you wee love machine is in that cat but I was <BR>&gt; flying mine this afternoon and just lower the nose in cruise a little an 110 <BR>&gt; just like that?? And hard to slow it on approach too with the tapered <BR>&gt; prop... Be good if you we inonme


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    Time: 08:16:52 AM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: 912s vs. Jabiru 3300?
    Darin, come to Logan for a first hand look at a Model IV with 912> John Kerr -------------- Original message -------------- > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "darinh" > > I agree with Kurt, the high cruise with the 914 was at altitude and I am not > going to be cruising at 15k plus so I ruled this engine out long ago. > > Clint, > > clint_bazzill(at)hotmail. wrote: > > If you want speed, don't build a slow airplane. Clint > > I think you have misunderstood my use of "cruise speed". I am not looking for > blazing speed...I know that the kitfox is not fast and I don't expect it to be > (I have owned one before you know, a Model III that cruised at 75 - 80). I am > perfectly aware that I am not going to break any speed records in one. That > being said, I would like to get as much speed as possible without sacrificing > the reason I am building another Kitfox...low and slow, tree-top flying with > those short backcountry strips in mind. I have a cabin with a private 1300' one > way strip located the Bitterroot mountains (within 100 nm of virtually all the > strips in Idaho) that I need to get in and out of. But, I live in Utah and I > would love to have a cruise of say 120 - 130ish which would put flight time at > approximately 3 -3.5 hours assuming usual winds. I am simply trying to learn if > the Jabiru 3300 will provide this type of cruise while maintaining the great > short field properties of the Kitfox...if not! > I will go with the proven 912S. > > It sounds like nobody can tell me if the Jabiru will provide me with both, so it > will come down to a decision and without any other first hand field experience, > I would have to say I would go with the Rotax because I know its performance, > which by the way is good enough for me, just always looking and hoping for more. > > By the way, if I would have wanted all-out speed, I would have continued with > the build of my RV7 but cut that short for another Kitfox because that is where > my flying passion lies...on the undeveloped strips of Idaho and Utah. > > Darin > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=44459#44459 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <html><body> <DIV>Darin, come to Logan for a first hand look at a Model IV with 912&gt;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>John Kerr</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "darinh" &lt;gerns25@netscape.net&gt; <BR><BR>&gt; --&gt; Kitfox-List message posted by: "darinh" <GERNS25@NETSCAPE.NET><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I agree with Kurt, the high cruise with the 914 was at altitude and I am not <BR>&gt; going to be cruising at 15k plus so I ruled this engine out long ago. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Clint, <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; clint_bazzill(at)hotmail. wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt; If you want speed, don't build a slow airplane. Clint <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I think you have misunderstood my use of "cruise speed". I am not looking for <BR>&gt; blazing speed...I know that the kitfox is not fast and I don't expect it to be <BR>&gt; (I have owned one before you know, a Model III that cruised at 75 - 80). I am <BR>&gt; perfectly aware that I am not going to break any speed records in one. That <BR>&gt; being said, I would like to get as much sp eed as possible without sacrificing <BR>&gt; the reason I am building another Kitfox...low and slow, tree-top flying with <BR>&gt; those short backcountry strips in mind. I have a cabin with a private 1300' one <BR>&gt; way strip located the Bitterroot mountains (within 100 nm of virtually all the <BR>&gt; strips in Idaho) that I need to get in and out of. But, I live in Utah and I <BR>&gt; would love to have a cruise of say 120 - 130ish which would put flight time at <BR>&gt; approximately 3 -3.5 hours assuming usual winds. I am simply trying to learn if <BR>&gt; the Jabiru 3300 will provide this type of cruise while maintaining the great <BR>&gt; short field properties of the Kitfox...if not! <BR>&gt; I will go with the proven 912S. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; It sounds like nobody can tell me if the Jabiru will provide me with both, so it <BR>&gt; will come down to a decision and without any other first hand field experience, <BR>&gt; I would have to say I would go with the Rotax because I know <BR>&g


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    Time: 09:08:14 AM PST US
    From: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 912s vs. Jabiru 3300?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com> I have to chuckle on the blazing speed thing. I really love the tree top flying, but I generally fly 80 kts (gps) while doing this. When I need the speed, generally flying into spokane international(kgeg) I need as much speed as possible, generally 90kts and with a 400ftmin. decent close to 100kts. I also keep that speed up to the lights, drop off the throttle and touch down long, about 1000ft past the numbers and get right off on the first taxiway, which generally there is a 737 right behind me and touching down or close to it when I get off the runway. Very exciting and blazing speed in a kitfox, very much needed, if you want to call it that. -------- kitfoxmike kitfox4 1200 912ul speedster http://www.frappr.com/kitfoxmike Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=44536#44536


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    Time: 09:37:15 AM PST US
    From: Dan Billingsley <dan@azshowersolutions.com>
    Subject: Trim servo
    Rick, Thanks for the clarification...I am all for upgrading to a better quality part. I just wondered if we were talking the same servo. It sounds like yours is more of a heavy duty unit than the one I have seen for $200 . But will it fit the IV Speedster? Lowell seems to think it may not. John McBean...do you know the particulars on this? Thanks, Dan wingsdown <wingsdown@comcast.net> wrote: Dan, That someone was me. You had me contact you off list with a price. I think I had it listed for 500 and told you 400. I have only the info Skystar quoted me when I was wanting a spare and that was 1200. I thought 400 was a steal. If the Part numbers match by all means go with the new 200 dollar unit. Please send me a pic of the new unit when you get it so I know what to ask for mine down the road. For those that may want the one Dan is suggesting, don't tell them it is going on an airplane. Electric lift for a boat cover maybe. Rick -----Original Message----- Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:04 AM Recently someone advertised a trim servo for $400.00...indicating that he spent $1000 on it new. Are we talking the elevator trim tab servo? I just checked on new ones and they can be purchased for under $200.00?? Dan AMuller589@aol.com wrote: These can also be repaired economically.


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    Time: 10:59:51 AM PST US
    From: Donald STEVENSON <shericom@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Trim servo
    Dan, I,am building a M4 Speedster 1992, mine uses the small RAC servo as found on page 410 of Aircraft Spruce catalog (2005-2006) I have the installation instructions in my K/F M4 manual if you need it. I don,t have any way to scan, but could fax them to you. Get back to me if I can be of any help. Don Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario, Canada M4/1200 Speedster-912 ----- Original Message ---- Sent: Monday, July 3, 2006 12:36:09 PM Rick, Thanks for the clarification...I am all for upgrading to a better quality part. I just wondered if we were talking the same servo. It sounds like yours is more of a heavy duty unit than the one I have seen for $200 . But will it fit the IV Speedster? Lowell seems to think it may not. John McBean...do you know the particulars on this? Thanks, Dan wingsdown <wingsdown@comcast.net> wrote: Dan, That someone was me. You had me contact you off list with a price. I think I had it listed for 500 and told you 400. I have only the info Skystar quoted me when I was wanting a spare and that was 1200. I thought 400 was a steal. If the Part numbers match by all means go with the new 200 dollar unit. Please send me a pic of the new unit when you get it so I know what to ask for mine down the road. For those that may want the one Dan is suggesting, don't tell them it is going on an airplane. Electric lift for a boat cover maybe. Rick -----Original Message----- Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:04 AM Recently someone advertised a trim servo for $400.00...indicating that he spent $1000 on it new. Are we talking the elevator trim tab servo? I just checked on new ones and they can be purchased for under $200.00?? Dan AMuller589@aol.com wrote: These can also be repaired economically.


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    Time: 12:56:29 PM PST US
    From: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
    Subject: eastern canada Kitfox owners
    I wish to hear from Kitfox owners in Eastern Canada, the Maritimes. I live near Halifax in Nova Scotia and have bought a Kitfox IV 1050 built (very well) by Glen McGuigan of New Brunswick. I have to replace parts in the wings and while the build manual is reasonably clear it is always nice to have experienced builders around. I only know one other Kitfox owner in the area, I'm sure there are a couple more.


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    Time: 01:40:56 PM PST US
    From: Norm <nebchmp@wcc.net>
    Subject: Fwd: R3000 engine
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Norm <nebchmp@wcc.net> If of interest. Norm http://www.revmasteraviation.com/products/under_development/index.htm We apologize for the delay in answering your request. We just discovered that we have not received many e-mails from the contact us page on our website, due to a computer glitch we have no control over. In future, use this e-mail address instead of info@. At the present time we do not have any detailed literature regarding the R3000 engine, other than what is on our website under the "under development" section. The engine is scheduled for batch production sometime in mid '07 and has an introductory price of prox $9500.00. The engine produces 110 HP at 3200 rpm and weighs prox 205 lbs.


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    Time: 02:21:59 PM PST US
    From: Sid Hausding <avidsid@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Selling off parts........
    It has been brought to my attention that my Avid STOL wings might be of interest to kitfoxers, as well as the Avid Flyer group................so: I have a Quick Build factory kit for the STOL/Heavy Hauler wings, with the heavier spar thickness and the bigger diam. struts for extra load capacity, or Gross. These are partially completed with most of the ribs, drag bars, and some trailing edge work done in gigs at the factory. All material, attachments, glue, epoxy, cloth, matting, etc; comes with them, as does the dual 14 gal tanks. Preformed fiberglass rounded tips with strobe mounting attachments also. Paid over $4,000.00........would like $3,500.00 and could crate for shipping if needed. Hausding, Sid Avid Speedwing N204S Alpena, Michigan 49707 989-356-0048 avidsid@yahoo.com "Why can't we all just get along?" --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1/min.


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    Time: 02:25:53 PM PST US
    From: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: 912s vs. Jabiru 3300
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net> Darin sez: >Can anyone out there give me some real life data on a Series 7 with >a 912S and an IFA prop? What kind of cruise do you see?...How about >climb rates? I have reams of such data, but they are from my Model IV-1200. Let me know if you'd like me to look it up for you. Mike


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    Time: 02:35:14 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Leaf spring
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Sorry to insist, guys, but my holidays start in a few days and I was hoping to fly. Do anyone know what kind of leaf spring I can order from Aircraft Spruce? I just called them by phone but ... not much info to get there, I am afraid. If you look at: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/leafsprings.php Set no. 6 (part No. 06-14700) is the right width (1 1/4") and length between holes but ... there is no info about the angle and the angle is most important so that my homebuilder tailwheel is just slightly bending forward of the vertical axis. Otherwise, it is impossible to have it to free-castor or, if the angle is too much, it will too easily go in "reverse" position. Any comment would be highly appreciated. Thanks. Cheers, Michel


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    Time: 03:13:17 PM PST US
    From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Leaf spring
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com> Hi Michel I'm sure to get flamed for this one, but my spring set the tailwheel at an unacceptable angle so I took it to the anvil/vice and bent it cold. I have done this many times on other applications with no ill affect. Ron NB Or >From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: Leaf spring >Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 23:34:39 +0200 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> > >Sorry to insist, guys, but my holidays start in a few days and I was hoping >to fly. >Do anyone know what kind of leaf spring I can order from Aircraft Spruce? I >just called them by phone but ... not much info to get there, I am afraid. > >If you look at: >http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/leafsprings.php > >Set no. 6 (part No. 06-14700) is the right width (1 1/4") and length >between holes but ... there is no info about the angle and the angle is >most important so that my homebuilder tailwheel is just slightly bending >forward of the vertical axis. Otherwise, it is impossible to have it to >free-castor or, if the angle is too much, it will too easily go in >"reverse" position. > >Any comment would be highly appreciated. Thanks. > >Cheers, >Michel > > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List >http://wiki.matronics.com > > _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/


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    Time: 03:18:05 PM PST US
    From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?= <geir_olav@c2i.net>
    Subject: Re: Leaf spring
    Hei. Ser at du er p jakt etter halehjul-fjr. Jeg har en 3 r gammel aircraft-spruce katalog. Der har de en fjr til kitfox (retro-fit) p/n p denne er 06-15105. du kan jo hre om de har liggende en, for jeg ser at de har det ikke i sortemanget n. Geir Olav. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:34 PM > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> > > Sorry to insist, guys, but my holidays start in a few days and I was > hoping to fly. > Do anyone know what kind of leaf spring I can order from Aircraft Spruce? > I just called them by phone but ... not much info to get there, I am > afraid. > > If you look at: > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/leafsprings.php > > Set no. 6 (part No. 06-14700) is the right width (1 1/4") and length > between holes but ... there is no info about the angle and the angle is > most important so that my homebuilder tailwheel is just slightly bending > forward of the vertical axis. Otherwise, it is impossible to have it to > free-castor or, if the angle is too much, it will too easily go in > "reverse" position. > > Any comment would be highly appreciated. Thanks. > > Cheers, > Michel > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > >


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    Time: 03:21:50 PM PST US
    From: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
    Subject: Re: Leaf spring
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net> Hi Michel, I had the same issue several years back and what I did was take a template of the spring and go up to the local spring foundary. They made one for me in 2 days and it only cost about $20. It still was working fine when I sold the plane last year. I have since had the same company make several others with varying angles and lengths so I can experiment a bit with angle of attach and softness in ride. Hope this helps. It was an easy option for me. Regards Graeme ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 7:34 AM > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> > > Sorry to insist, guys, but my holidays start in a few days and I was > hoping to fly. > Do anyone know what kind of leaf spring I can order from Aircraft Spruce? > I just called them by phone but ... not much info to get there, I am > afraid. > > If you look at: > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/leafsprings.php > > Set no. 6 (part No. 06-14700) is the right width (1 1/4") and length > between holes but ... there is no info about the angle and the angle is > most important so that my homebuilder tailwheel is just slightly bending > forward of the vertical axis. Otherwise, it is impossible to have it to > free-castor or, if the angle is too much, it will too easily go in > "reverse" position. > > Any comment would be highly appreciated. Thanks. > > Cheers, > Michel > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > >


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    Time: 03:24:33 PM PST US
    From: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
    Subject: Re: Leaf spring
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net> I just remembered that one of the guys with a skyfox purchased the steel himself and bent it to shape. He took that in to the same place for tempering for the same but quicker result. Regards Graeme ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 7:34 AM > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> > > Sorry to insist, guys, but my holidays start in a few days and I was > hoping to fly. > Do anyone know what kind of leaf spring I can order from Aircraft Spruce? > I just called them by phone but ... not much info to get there, I am > afraid. > > If you look at: > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/leafsprings.php > > Set no. 6 (part No. 06-14700) is the right width (1 1/4") and length > between holes but ... there is no info about the angle and the angle is > most important so that my homebuilder tailwheel is just slightly bending > forward of the vertical axis. Otherwise, it is impossible to have it to > free-castor or, if the angle is too much, it will too easily go in > "reverse" position. > > Any comment would be highly appreciated. Thanks. > > Cheers, > Michel > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > >


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    Time: 03:27:30 PM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Leaf spring
    I don't know about the angle Michel but maybe you can find a local spring shop who will either "adjust" the angle on the AS spring or build you a new one from scratch to your specifications. Also, couldn't you remove the free-castoring cam from your Maule tailwheel (assuming that's what you have) to eliminate the criticality of the spring angle? You won't miss the free-castoring feature.Who needs to turn 360 degrees "on a dime" anyway? I don't claim any expertise other than living without free-castoring, but you asked for ideas and there you have mine. Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe Sorry to insist, guys, but my holidays start in a few days and I was hoping to fly. Do anyone know what kind of leaf spring I can order from Aircraft Spruce? I just called them by phone but ... not much info to get there, I am afraid.e If you look at: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/leafsprings.php Set no. 6 (part No. 06-14700) is the right width (1 1/4") and length between holes but ... there is no info about the angle and the angle is most important so that my homebuilder tailwheel is just slightly bending forward of the vertical axis. Otherwise, it is impossible to have it to free-castor or, if the angle is too much, it will too easily go in "reverse" position. Any comment would be highly appreciated. Thanks. Cheers, Michel Marco Menezes Model 2 582 N99KX __________________________________________________


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    Time: 04:31:40 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Leaf spring
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Same suggestion from me Michel, You should be able to get a spring locally for the cost of shipping and taxes alone from Aircraft Spruce. And it should only take you a few days too. Kurt S. --- QSS <msm@byterocky.net> wrote: > Hi Michel, I had the same issue several years back > and what I did was take a > template of the spring and go up to the local spring > foundary. They made one > for me in 2 days and it only cost about $20. It > still was working fine when > I sold the plane last year. I have since had the > same company make several > others with varying angles and lengths so I can > experiment a bit with angle > of attach and softness in ride. Hope this helps. It > was an easy option for me. > Regards > Graeme __________________________________________________


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    Time: 05:37:20 PM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: eastern canada Kitfox owners
    The Beothuck Explorer is a Kitfox III-A on Areocet straight floats. The engine is a 582 grey head upgraded to spec99 swinging an Ivo in-flight adjustable through a 1:2.58 "B" box. Oh yes I'm located at Campbellton, NL. About an hours ride from Gander Intl. CYQX Noel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave G. Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 5:24 PM I wish to hear from Kitfox owners in Eastern Canada, the Maritimes. I live near Halifax in Nova Scotia and have bought a Kitfox IV 1050 built (very well) by Glen McGuigan of New Brunswick. I have to replace parts in the wings and while the build manual is reasonably clear it is always nice to have experienced builders around. I only know one other Kitfox owner in the area, I'm sure there are a couple more.


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    Time: 05:41:29 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Leaf spring
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> Michel, Sorry I didn' respond earlier with more helpful information. I called my friend, Mark. He used this spring on his Mod IV after an identical mishap. He discribed it as seeing too much sky after landing and this is the scoop. He used the J-3 cub spring from Aircraft Spruce. Part # 06-14200. The hole drilled for tha fusealge attachment will be oversized and will have to be bushed. The spring is1-1/4" wide and is composed of three leaves. Mark says you can use all three, but should need only two. You may be able to find a local supplier with Piper J-3 Cub parts Again sorry for not responding sooner. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 2:34 PM > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> > > Sorry to insist, guys, but my holidays start in a few days and I was > hoping to fly. > Do anyone know what kind of leaf spring I can order from Aircraft Spruce? > I just called them by phone but ... not much info to get there, I am > afraid. > > If you look at: > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/leafsprings.php > > Set no. 6 (part No. 06-14700) is the right width (1 1/4") and length > between holes but ... there is no info about the angle and the angle is > most important so that my homebuilder tailwheel is just slightly bending > forward of the vertical axis. Otherwise, it is impossible to have it to > free-castor or, if the angle is too much, it will too easily go in > "reverse" position. > > Any comment would be highly appreciated. Thanks. > > Cheers, > Michel > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > >


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    Time: 05:56:13 PM PST US
    From: dpremgood@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: eastern canada Kitfox owners
    Hi Dave, I am in Montreal and building a Classic IV. I do not know of any builders in Atlantic Canada that are on the list. You might try accessing the Transport Canada Aircraft Register if you wish to find owners near you. look at: www.tc.gc.ca/avaition/activepages/ccarcs/en/default_e.asp Regards, Doug Remoundos -----Original Message----- Sent: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 16:53:34 -0300 I wish to hear from Kitfox owners in Eastern Canada, the Maritimes. I live near Halifax in Nova Scotia and have bought a Kitfox IV 1050 built (very well) by Glen McGuigan of New Brunswick. I have to replace parts in the wings and while the build manual is reasonably clear it is always nice to have experienced builders around. I only know one other Kitfox owner in the area, I'm sure there are a couple more. ________________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 06:42:12 PM PST US
    From: "Kevin Cozik" <Kcozik@cablespeed.com>
    Subject: almost ready
    Hello list, Just an update to show my progress. It's just so streamline!!! Kevin S6 in Michigan




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