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1. 12:57 AM - Re: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) (Michel Verheughe)
2. 01:10 AM - Re: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) (John Anderson)
3. 01:28 AM - Re: Garmin GPS set-up (Michel Verheughe)
4. 02:49 AM - Re: Garmin GPS set-up (Dave)
5. 03:29 AM - Obstacles. WAS: Garmin GPS set-up (Michel Verheughe)
6. 05:24 AM - Re: Garmin GPS set-up (Noel Loveys)
7. 06:05 AM - Re: Garmin GPS set-up (Barry West)
8. 07:27 AM - Re: Avid Catalina - Was Kitfox Newbie Questions (Marco Menezes)
9. 07:29 AM - Re: Garmin GPS set-up (Lowell Fitt)
10. 07:37 AM - Re: Motor mounting (Rueb, Duane)
11. 08:51 AM - Re: Kitfox Aircraft (Guy Buchanan)
12. 10:03 AM - Re: Kitfox Newbie Questions (Michael Gibbs)
13. 10:19 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Newbie Questions (Don Smythe)
14. 01:30 PM - Re: Garmin GPS set-up (kurt schrader)
15. 01:30 PM - Turtle Deck (jeff puls)
16. 01:30 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox Newbie Questions (Dave G.)
17. 02:05 PM - Re: Obstacles. WAS: Garmin GPS set-up (QSS)
18. 02:21 PM - Re: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) (RichWill)
19. 02:43 PM - Re: Turtle Deck (Bradley M Webb)
20. 02:44 PM - Re: Motor mounting (Bradley M Webb)
21. 03:15 PM - Re: Motor mounting (Marco Menezes)
22. 04:24 PM - New Service Bulletins 49 and 50 for Rotax 912 Engines (Jimmie Blackwell)
23. 04:27 PM - Re: Turtle Deck (Lowell Fitt)
24. 06:06 PM - Re: Motor mounting (Bradley M Webb)
25. 07:42 PM - Re: Avid Catalina - Was Kitfox Newbie Questions (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
26. 07:48 PM - Re: Re: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
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| Subject: | KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) |
Hello bouncing Ricky!
> From: RichWill [rwill1@adelphia.net]
> Wondering if this is normal (got to learn to slick it in again)
I should be careful not to sound too arrogant since I have only 200 h on my Kitfox
and I barely become acquainted with the aircraft but ...
My old tyres were 10 psi, my new tyres were 30 psi and now deflated to 20 psi.
My humble opinion is that tyre pressure has nothing to do with bouncing. This
being said, I bounce also ... sometimes. I think it's just in the way we land.
Practice and practice and feeling the plane. When I was doing touch and go with
my instructor, I became impatient, asking him: How the #%&* am I going to land
this thing properly? And now I do it ... most of the time. But I can't tell
you how.
My advice is: keep your pressure as it is recommended and fly more. I am sure that
you will soon know you plane as the back of your hand. Some people wonder
why I am, now and then, doing touch and go's. Do I still need training? Yes, training
is something that can't be overdriven.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) |
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| Subject: | Garmin GPS set-up |
> From: John Anderson [janderson412@hotmail.com]
> All technology makes us lazy
Oh yes, John! BTW, do you want to buy my old sextant? I don't think I'll bother
to use it anymore! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin GPS set-up |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
Lynn,
The large towers are more seldom than the smaller 300 foot towers in
rural areas. And if you are flying even legally at 500 ' that only leaves
less than 200 feet vertical clearance. That being said it is even harder to
see them off your nose in lower visibility days.
I fly alot at 500 agl but I do fly on X countrys up to 10k depending on
where the winds are most favourable. I am going ot check wx now for a 250
mile leg flight today.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:16 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
300 to 500-foot towers...child's play compared to the 1040-foot tower
just east of where I live/fly. It is just northwest of Chelsea,
Michigan. That damn thing will really get your attention on the GPS.
All the other towers in the vicinity are depicted in yellow, and that
one is red...a real attention getter. I flew over in that direction the
other day, and the number of towers popping up made it look like a
graveyard...an apt description if one doesn't pay heed.
Lynn
On Thursday, July 6, 2006, at 07:47 PM, Dave wrote:
>
>
> "GPS is the greatest navigation aid ever made thus far..John A"
>
>
> John I will have to agree with you there. And I think the obstacle warning
> is great especially will all hte 300 to 500 foot towers all over the
> place.
>
> Now if we could only get tailwinds enroute - we would be all set.
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: John Anderson
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Garmin GPS set-up
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
> All technology makes us lazy..but is does it make us safer, thats the
> question. The new generation aircraft we fly today are very automated, we
> older pilots tend to scoff at the automation but I notice the younger guys
> are straight into it?? I for one old sod (might be lazy) tend to love the
> new technology even if I struggle at time to understand it and think the
> GPS is the greatest navigation aid ever made thus far..John A.
>
>
<image.tiff>
>
>
> From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Garmin GPS set-up
> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 18:50:20 -0400
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
>
> Lynn,
>
> GPS are great but they will make you lazy.
>
> Dead reckoning is what you need to know ( incase) and of course wx
> briefing.
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 6:23 PM
>
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> >
> >Thanks, Dave and RDM....I must've not looked far enough on the
> >"setup" page. I'm going to the hangar this evening, and will make
> >the changes then....yes, I've got charts aboard, even though my
> >instructor has me "tethered" to 5 local grass strips at the present
> >time. I'm getting to recognize those strips now from several miles
> >away and only 2,000 ft up.
> >
> >Lynn
> >On Thursday, July 6, 2006, at 06:48 AM, Dave wrote:
> >
> >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
> >>
> >>Lynn,
> >>
> >>I use a 196 and I think it about the same as 296 except for the
> >>colour screen.
> >>
> >>go to Main menu -- push twice
> >>Setup
> >>then you will have tabs on top scroll sideways and set all tabs as
> >>req'd.
> >>You can set text size , alarm, alerts, obstacles etc.
> >>If you are new to this gps , play with it lots and you will find
> >>everything you need.
> >>I also find that the remote antenna works much faster and more
> >>consistant than the little stubby antenna.
> >>
> >>
> >>Hope this helps you and don't forget to take your charts with you
> >>as the GPS should not be your only source for Navaids.
> >>
> >>Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:20
> >>PM
> >>
> >>
> >>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
> >>><lynnmatt@jps.net>
> >>>
> >>>Does anybody know if my 296 Garmin GPS can be made to read in mph
> >>>rather than knots? I tried on the "set-up" page but it doesn't
> >>>seem to offer this configuration. It's maddening to see my
> >>>airspeed indicator read in mph, and my GPS read in "those boat
> >>>terms" ....sorry all you real pilots, but I think in mph, and
> >>>that's why I ordered my ASI to read as such. Anybody got a
> =========================Navigator to Photoshare, and
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
> =========================List Wiki!
> =========================http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> ===================================
>
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| Subject: | Obstacles. WAS: Garmin GPS set-up |
> From: Dave [dave@cfisher.com]
> The large towers are more seldom than the smaller 300 foot towers in
> rural areas.
Incidently, PocketFMS has a warning system that buzz when an obstacle or high terrain
is ahead of your course. The problem is: since it's a shareware (or rather,
a "donationware") data available is only ... what they could find. For Norway,
I helped by getting and giving them the entire country's set of obstacles
from our national authorities. But that changes all the time. A database is
only as good as how it is maintained.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Garmin GPS set-up |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
For some reason the batteries in my Magellan Meridian Marine ceased to
operate the GPS two days ago. It still operates on external power. It's
nice to have aboard but I won't go any where without my trusty VNC which
also needs to be replaced.
Like anything else technology is great until the batteries quit! Or a file
is lost!
P.S. I still do some math in my head, use the whiz wheel and carry a slide
rule in the glove compartment of the car for doing various conversions.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Michel Verheughe
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 5:57 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Garmin GPS set-up
>
>
> > From: John Anderson [janderson412@hotmail.com]
> > All technology makes us lazy
>
> Oh yes, John! BTW, do you want to buy my old sextant? I
> don't think I'll bother to use it anymore! :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin GPS set-up |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Barry West" <barry@pgtc.com>
Good for you, Noel, I still have my K&E slide rule and know how to use it.
Math in my head is much slower than it used to be and my whiz wheel just
wore out.
Barry West
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 7:20 AM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
>
> For some reason the batteries in my Magellan Meridian Marine ceased to
> operate the GPS two days ago. It still operates on external power. It's
> nice to have aboard but I won't go any where without my trusty VNC which
> also needs to be replaced.
>
> Like anything else technology is great until the batteries quit! Or a
> file
> is lost!
>
> P.S. I still do some math in my head, use the whiz wheel and carry a slide
> rule in the glove compartment of the car for doing various conversions.
>
> Noel
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> Michel Verheughe
>> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 5:57 AM
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Garmin GPS set-up
>>
>>
>> > From: John Anderson [janderson412@hotmail.com]
>> > All technology makes us lazy
>>
>> Oh yes, John! BTW, do you want to buy my old sextant? I
>> don't think I'll bother to use it anymore! :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Michel
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Avid Catalina - Was Kitfox Newbie Questions |
Malcolm -
Is that your Avid Catalina on cover of the latest LEAF catalog?
Malcolmbru@aol.com wrote:
maybe landing a kit fox is like landing a flat rock on a comm pond if you
doni do it right it could take a while 3 . 5 hrs 27 landings and nothing
bent yet KF2 582 Malcolm- Michigan
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin GPS set-up |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Dave,
What do you consider legally at 500 ft. The way I read the regs is that one
must be at least 500 ft from a structure, vehicle or person. I interpret
this to mean that you must be at least 500 ft over or lateral to the tower
etc., but over the western desert, just don't touch the ground unless it is
a planned touch.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 2:46 AM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
>
> Lynn,
>
> The large towers are more seldom than the smaller 300 foot towers in
> rural areas. And if you are flying even legally at 500 ' that only
> leaves less than 200 feet vertical clearance. That being said it is even
> harder to see them off your nose in lower visibility days.
>
> I fly alot at 500 agl but I do fly on X countrys up to 10k depending on
> where the winds are most favourable. I am going ot check wx now for a
> 250 mile leg flight today.
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:16 PM
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> 300 to 500-foot towers...child's play compared to the 1040-foot tower
> just east of where I live/fly. It is just northwest of Chelsea,
> Michigan. That damn thing will really get your attention on the GPS.
> All the other towers in the vicinity are depicted in yellow, and that
> one is red...a real attention getter. I flew over in that direction the
> other day, and the number of towers popping up made it look like a
> graveyard...an apt description if one doesn't pay heed.
>
> Lynn
> On Thursday, July 6, 2006, at 07:47 PM, Dave wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> "GPS is the greatest navigation aid ever made thus far..John A"
>>
>>
>> John I will have to agree with you there. And I think the obstacle
>> warning is great especially will all hte 300 to 500 foot towers all over
>> the place.
>>
>> Now if we could only get tailwinds enroute - we would be all set.
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: John Anderson
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Garmin GPS set-up
>>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
>> All technology makes us lazy..but is does it make us safer, thats the
>> question. The new generation aircraft we fly today are very automated, we
>> older pilots tend to scoff at the automation but I notice the younger
>> guys are straight into it?? I for one old sod (might be lazy) tend to
>> love the new technology even if I struggle at time to understand it and
>> think the GPS is the greatest navigation aid ever made thus far..John A.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> <image.tiff>
>>
>>
>> From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Garmin GPS set-up
>> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 18:50:20 -0400
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
>>
>> Lynn,
>>
>> GPS are great but they will make you lazy.
>>
>> Dead reckoning is what you need to know ( incase) and of course wx
>> briefing.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 6:23 PM
>>
>>
>> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>> >
>> >Thanks, Dave and RDM....I must've not looked far enough on the
>> >"setup" page. I'm going to the hangar this evening, and will make
>> >the changes then....yes, I've got charts aboard, even though my
>> >instructor has me "tethered" to 5 local grass strips at the present
>> >time. I'm getting to recognize those strips now from several miles
>> >away and only 2,000 ft up.
>> >
>> >Lynn
>> >On Thursday, July 6, 2006, at 06:48 AM, Dave wrote:
>> >
>> >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
>> >>
>> >>Lynn,
>> >>
>> >>I use a 196 and I think it about the same as 296 except for the
>> >>colour screen.
>> >>
>> >>go to Main menu -- push twice
>> >>Setup
>> >>then you will have tabs on top scroll sideways and set all tabs as
>> >>req'd.
>> >>You can set text size , alarm, alerts, obstacles etc.
>> >>If you are new to this gps , play with it lots and you will find
>> >>everything you need.
>> >>I also find that the remote antenna works much faster and more
>> >>consistant than the little stubby antenna.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Hope this helps you and don't forget to take your charts with you
>> >>as the GPS should not be your only source for Navaids.
>> >>
>> >>Dave
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:20
>> >>PM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
>> >>><lynnmatt@jps.net>
>> >>>
>> >>>Does anybody know if my 296 Garmin GPS can be made to read in mph
>> >>>rather than knots? I tried on the "set-up" page but it doesn't
>> >>>seem to offer this configuration. It's maddening to see my
>> >>>airspeed indicator read in mph, and my GPS read in "those boat
>> >>>terms" ....sorry all you real pilots, but I think in mph, and
>> >>>that's why I ordered my ASI to read as such. Anybody got a
>> =========================Navigator to Photoshare, and
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>> =========================List Wiki!
>> =========================http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> ===================================
>>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
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Bradley:
I would suggest you ask the current owner of KITFOX, which is John and
Debra McBean. They are the best source of knowledge of the various
models of Kitfoxes, and have many parts and supplies on hand. They also
have the benefit of a large body of experience with the airplanes and
the builders, and if someone else would need to be brought into the
discussion to help, they do not hesitate to suggest that.
When I 'Google' "Kitfox aircraft" their site is the first one to come
up, so you should have no trouble finding them.
Good luck with your airplane, it should be more fun than even you might
have thought possible.
Duane Rueb
________________________________
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bradley M
Webb
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 6:04 PM
Folks,
I am getting ready to mount up my motor (Geo 3 cylinder) and I need to
order the tubing. What size tubing should I get? I have the 582 mount
for reference, but without cutting into it, I have no idea as to the
wall thickness.
Also, does anyone have the thrust line for the Kitfox Model 2? My manual
has no reference to it. I know where the 582 sat in relation, but are
there hard numbers?
Also, is th4ere any thrust offset? Most are down and to the side. Any
idea what it should be?
Thanks,
Bradley
N1836
Middle Georgia
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Aircraft |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
John,
Thank you very much for the update. I'm very glad you're bringing
back the round cowl, as I think it was one of Kitfox's stronger marketing
points. I'm also glad your bringing the aircraft back to it's light-weight
roots, as I thought Skystar would soon be building tube and rag 172's. One
question. Why the move? I would think that would be very expensive.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Newbie Questions |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
>Randy,
> I think 220 MPH is a bit high for any model Kitfox.
>Don Smythe
I don't know Don, extrapolating downward from my 100 HP Model IV, 220
mph seems about right. :-)
Mike G.
N728KF
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Newbie Questions |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Good point and when the wings come off you can probably get a little more.
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----- Original Message -----
> I don't know Don, extrapolating downward from my 100 HP Model IV, 220
> mph seems about right. :-)
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| Subject: | Garmin GPS set-up |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Michel,
Your Fox is just too fast at 220 mph to use a sextant.
By the time you find out where you are, you aren't
there any more.... :-)
OK, I know. We Marines still use sextants as our
primary navaid on C-130's. Works until star battery
power goes out.
We had a helo, years ago, fly up a valley for low
level training. After they passed, a power line crew
pulled a wire taunt across the valley and the helo hit
it coming back. Lives lost. Even GPS updates aren't
enough some times. It would have helped if the power
company told us they were going to do that....
There was a radio station trying to put up an antenna
right off a runway just outsided of an airport traffic
area in Wisconsin years ago. Took 5 years, but they
won the right to put it up. It lasted 2 weeks before
killing 2 pilots and 2 engineers in the transmitter
building.
"You have the right to be stupid"... but it is best to
forgo that one. Keep looking out.
Kurt S.
--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
> > From: John Anderson [janderson412@hotmail.com]
> > All technology makes us lazy
>
> Oh yes, John! BTW, do you want to buy my old
> sextant? I don't think I'll bother to use it
> anymore! :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
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John McBean,
I have been thinking about replacing the turtle deck on my Classic IV. I
was thinking of the Leaxn but think it is probable heavier than the
aluminum. What I would like to do is go to a one piece turtle deck with
one window. Do away with the havles and make it one piece. Do you know
if Skystar fabricated their own or did they send that out? Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Newbie Questions |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
Is that what he meant by "extrapolating downward" ?
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Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 2:18 PM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
>
> Good point and when the wings come off you can probably get a little more.
>
> Do Not Archive
> ----- Original Message -----
>> I don't know Don, extrapolating downward from my 100 HP Model IV, 220 mph
>> seems about right. :-)
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Obstacles. WAS: Garmin GPS set-up |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
Michel, I have contacted your friend and will wait for him to get back to
me, Thanks for the info. I have decided to go with the iQue 3600a which is
the aviation version of there standard PDA 3600 and is pre-loaded with the
Jeppesen system. It also has the terrain alert system. The specs on this
GPS/PDA are really impressive and for anyone looking at a new GPS, this
looks like a great alternative to the traditional Garmin options. I really
like the versatility of its dual use. When I have a chance to test run it
and become familiar with its functions, I'll post my findings on the list.
Regards
Graeme
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 8:27 PM
>> From: Dave [dave@cfisher.com]
>> The large towers are more seldom than the smaller 300 foot towers in
>> rural areas.
>
> Incidently, PocketFMS has a warning system that buzz when an obstacle or
> high terrain is ahead of your course. The problem is: since it's a
> shareware (or rather, a "donationware") data available is only ... what
> they could find. For Norway, I helped by getting and giving them the
> entire country's set of obstacles from our national authorities. But that
> changes all the time. A database is only as good as how it is maintained.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RichWill" <rwill1@adelphia.net>
No Problem Michael....
I'll be arrogant enough for the both of us... A 3000 hr GA pilot plus... former
flight instructor.... 7th owned aircraft...
In other words.. the PIC has no flying issues.. the tires are just plane bouncey...
But like everthing else , this too will be overcome..
Thanks for the insight!!
Rich
Semper Fi
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Semper Fi
15 ITT
G2 HqCo HqBn
1st MarDiv
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Jeff, I did just that. Mine was the original two window design, and I just
cut a large opening, and pop-riveted a single panel of polycarbonate into
it, with RTV to seal it from water. I drilled out the hinge rivets, and
riveted a thin aluminum sheet behind (under) it, and it works great, super
easy, and quick. And a $12 roll of dark window film finished it off nicely.
I had the thought of replacing the original hinge, and have a single window
that folds. Not much harder, and still allows it to fit in the seat for
transport.
As easy as it was, there is no way I could justify the expense of the formed
Lexan turtledeck. It would have to sell for $50 to make it a cost-effective
replacement for my method.
Bradley
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeff puls
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 4:09 PM
John McBean,
I have been thinking about replacing the turtle deck on my Classic IV. I was
thinking of the Leaxn but think it is probable heavier than the aluminum.
What I would like to do is go to a one piece turtle deck with one window. Do
away with the havles and make it one piece. Do you know if Skystar
fabricated their own or did they send that out? Jeff
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Thanks Duane. John was most helpful, and responded quickly late last night,
even though he has a new business to run. Amazing. It looks really good for
us 'foxers now.
My hope is the Geo will make this great airplane even better. Hard to
imagine improving the fun factor, but the new motor should reduce costs,
reduce maintenance, and give a safer, smoother ride.
Bradley
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rueb, Duane
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:37 AM
Bradley:
I would suggest you ask the current owner of KITFOX, which is John and Debra
McBean. They are the best source of knowledge of the various models of
Kitfoxes, and have many parts and supplies on hand. They also have the
benefit of a large body of experience with the airplanes and the builders,
and if someone else would need to be brought into the discussion to help,
they do not hesitate to suggest that.
When I 'Google' "Kitfox aircraft" their site is the first one to come up, so
you should have no trouble finding them.
Good luck with your airplane, it should be more fun than even you might have
thought possible.
Duane Rueb
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bradley M Webb
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 6:04 PM
Folks,
I am getting ready to mount up my motor (Geo 3 cylinder) and I need to order
the tubing. What size tubing should I get? I have the 582 mount for
reference, but without cutting into it, I have no idea as to the wall
thickness.
Also, does anyone have the thrust line for the Kitfox Model 2? My manual has
no reference to it. I know where the 582 sat in relation, but are there hard
numbers?
Also, is th4ere any thrust offset? Most are down and to the side. Any idea
what it should be?
Thanks,
Bradley
N1836
Middle Georgia
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Hey Bradley.
Please keep us posted with details and pictures of your progress. The Geo engine
sounds like a great alternative. Those Rotaxes (bless 'em) are getting expensive
to maintain.
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Bradley M Webb <bmwebb@cox.net> wrote:
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st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Thanks Duane. John was
most helpful, and responded quickly late last night, even though he has a new
business to run. Amazing. It looks really good for us foxers now.
My hope is the Geo will make this great airplane even better. Hard to imagine
improving the fun factor, but the new motor should reduce costs, reduce maintenance,
and give a safer, smoother ride.
Bradley
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rueb, Duane
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:37 AM
Bradley:
I would suggest you ask the current owner of KITFOX, which is John and Debra
McBean. They are the best source of knowledge of the various models of Kitfoxes,
and have many parts and supplies on hand. They also have the benefit of a
large body of experience with the airplanes and the builders, and if someone
else would need to be brought into the discussion to help, they do not hesitate
to suggest that.
When I Google Kitfox aircraft their site is the first one to come up, so you
should have no trouble finding them.
Good luck with your airplane, it should be more fun than even you might have
thought possible.
Duane Rueb
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bradley M Webb
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 6:04 PM
Folks,
I am getting ready to mount up my motor (Geo 3 cylinder) and I need to order
the tubing. What size tubing should I get? I have the 582 mount for reference,
but without cutting into it, I have no idea as to the wall thickness.
Also, does anyone have the thrust line for the Kitfox Model 2? My manual has
no reference to it. I know where the 582 sat in relation, but are there hard numbers?
Also, is th4ere any thrust offset? Most are down and to the side. Any idea what
it should be?
Thanks,
Bradley
N1836
Middle Georgia
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | New Service Bulletins 49 and 50 for Rotax 912 Engines |
Rotax recently published two new service bulletins pertaining to the 912 engine.
For some reason I am not able to download these bulletins from the Rotax site.
I am able to download all the other bulletins, but not the two latest ones.
Has anyone been able to download the new ones? If so, please let me know how
it was done.
Thanks
Jimmie
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Not a bad idea. As I recall the original reason for the hinge was for the
guys trailering. After folding the wings, the turtle deck folded and fit
nicely on the seats.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 2:41 PM
> Jeff, I did just that. Mine was the original two window design, and I just
> cut a large opening, and pop-riveted a single panel of polycarbonate into
> it, with RTV to seal it from water. I drilled out the hinge rivets, and
> riveted a thin aluminum sheet behind (under) it, and it works great, super
> easy, and quick. And a $12 roll of dark window film finished it off
> nicely.
>
>
> I had the thought of replacing the original hinge, and have a single
> window
> that folds. Not much harder, and still allows it to fit in the seat for
> transport.
>
>
> As easy as it was, there is no way I could justify the expense of the
> formed
> Lexan turtledeck. It would have to sell for $50 to make it a
> cost-effective
> replacement for my method.
>
>
> Bradley
>
>
> _____
>
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeff puls
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 4:09 PM
>
>
> John McBean,
>
> I have been thinking about replacing the turtle deck on my Classic IV. I
> was
> thinking of the Leaxn but think it is probable heavier than the aluminum.
> What I would like to do is go to a one piece turtle deck with one window.
> Do
> away with the havles and make it one piece. Do you know if Skystar
> fabricated their own or did they send that out? Jeff
>
>
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As I've posted before, I am not a Rotax fan. That being said, I do believe
that they are ok engines, IF you agree to spend the money and time on them
that they need to perform correctly. I was not in agreement to that. So I
searched for an alternative, and the Geo floated to the top. It is
comparable in weight, comparable in power, and has some distinct advantages
for my intended mission. I will post up when it gets finished.
Bradley
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marco Menezes
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 6:14 PM
Hey Bradley.
Please keep us posted with details and pictures of your progress. The Geo
engine sounds like a great alternative. Those Rotaxes (bless 'em) are
getting expensive to maintain.
do not archive
Bradley M Webb <bmwebb@cox.net> wrote:
Thanks Duane. John was most helpful, and responded quickly late last night,
even though he has a new business to run. Amazing. It looks really good for
us 'foxers now.
My hope is the Geo will make this great airplane even better. Hard to
imagine improving the fun factor, but the new motor should reduce costs,
reduce maintenance, and give a safer, smoother ride.
Bradley
_____
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rueb, Duane
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:37 AM
Bradley:
I would suggest you ask the current owner of KITFOX, which is John and Debra
McBean. They are the best source of knowledge of the various models of
Kitfoxes, and have many parts and supplies on hand. They also have the
benefit of a large body of experience with the airplanes and the builders,
and if someone else would need to be brought into the discussion to help,
they do not hesitate to suggest that.
When I 'Google' "Kitfox aircraft" their site is the first one to come up, so
you should have no trouble finding them.
Good luck with your airplane, it should be more fun than even you might have
thought possible.
Duane Rueb
_____
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bradley M Webb
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 6:04 PM
Folks,
I am getting ready to mount up my motor (Geo 3 cylinder) and I need to order
the tubing. What size tubing should I get? I have the 582 mount for
reference, but without cutting into it, I have no idea as to the wall
thickness.
Also, does anyone have the thrust line for the Kitfox Model 2? My manual has
no reference to it. I know where the 582 sat in relation, but are there hard
numbers?
Also, is th4ere any thrust offset? Most are down and to the side. Any idea
what it should be?
Thanks,
Bradley
N1836
Middle Georgia
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Re: Avid Catalina - Was Kitfox Newbie Questions |
Yes I have my pic on the leaf catalog just got it framed today. I have
ben a volintere at sun fun 15 years still no pic of me there. last week I flew
a sky raider on floats and loved it. see you at the seaplain base oshkosh
mal
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| Subject: | Re: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) |
I have the same tires on my kf2 they done chirp or make cool landing sounds.
you just know the soft rubber is rubbing off without a chirp$$$ thrill.
if you let too much air out you can see the side wall wrinkle when you roll
on the taxi way. mal
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