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1. 04:16 AM - Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006? (Larry Huntley)
2. 04:20 AM - Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006? (Larry Huntley)
3. 04:41 AM - Re: Re: Extra tubes anyone?? (Fox5flyer)
4. 04:42 AM - Re: Extra tubes anyone?? (Clifford Begnaud)
5. 05:10 AM - Re: turtledeck shots (Noel Loveys)
6. 05:38 AM - Re: Turtle Deck (Dee Young)
7. 06:44 AM - Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? (Brian Smith)
8. 07:38 AM - Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? (Algate)
9. 07:44 AM - Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? (Richard Rabbers)
10. 07:50 AM - Re: Oshkosh 2006? (Lynn Matteson)
11. 07:58 AM - Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006? (Lynn Matteson)
12. 08:04 AM - Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? (RichWill)
13. 08:14 AM - Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006 (Roger Circle)
14. 08:14 AM - Re: Extra tubes anyone?? (darinh)
15. 08:16 AM - Re: Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? (Brian Smith)
16. 08:41 AM - Re: Re: Extra tubes anyone?? (kenneth schooley)
17. 09:37 AM - Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? (kitfoxmike)
18. 10:05 AM - Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006 (Lynn Matteson)
19. 10:05 AM - Re: Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? I had one on my KF2 (Aerobatics@aol.com)
20. 10:19 AM - Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006 (Dave)
21. 10:24 AM - Navman (Algate)
22. 10:38 AM - Re: Navman (Dave)
23. 11:31 AM - Re: Navman (Marco Menezes)
24. 11:41 AM - Re: Navman (Dave)
25. 12:04 PM - Re: Navman (Algate)
26. 12:21 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2006? (Mdkitfox@aol.com)
27. 12:30 PM - Re: Navman (Dave)
28. 12:36 PM - Re: Navman (Clifford Begnaud)
29. 12:46 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2006? (Algate)
30. 12:55 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2006? (Dave)
31. 12:58 PM - Re: Navman (Dave)
32. 01:23 PM - Low Fuel Warning (Algate)
33. 01:25 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2006? (Clifford Begnaud)
34. 01:45 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2006 - watermellon social (Fox5flyer)
35. 01:47 PM - Re: Navman (Fox5flyer)
36. 01:47 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2006? (Fox5flyer)
37. 02:30 PM - Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package (Jim Crowder)
38. 02:33 PM - Camlocs (QSS)
39. 02:55 PM - Re: Camlocs (ron schick)
40. 02:55 PM - Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package (QSS)
41. 03:04 PM - Re: Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? (Bradley M Webb)
42. 03:15 PM - Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package (JC)
43. 03:20 PM - Re: Low Fuel Warning (PWilson)
44. 03:20 PM - Re: Navman (PWilson)
45. 03:29 PM - Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006 (Lynn Matteson)
46. 04:02 PM - Re: Camlocs (QSS)
47. 04:12 PM - Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006 (darinh)
48. 04:24 PM - Re: Camlocs (Eric)
49. 04:39 PM - Re: Camlocs (QSS)
50. 04:39 PM - Re: Navman (Clifford Begnaud)
51. 04:41 PM - Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package (Clifford Begnaud)
52. 05:40 PM - Re: Low Fuel Warning (Donald STEVENSON)
53. 05:52 PM - Flight Time (Guy Buchanan)
54. 05:59 PM - Re: Flight Time (wingsdown)
55. 07:15 PM - Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package have not compl (JJProbasco@cs.com)
56. 07:22 PM - Re: Flight Time (Dan Billingsley)
57. 07:26 PM - Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package (Fred Shiple)
58. 07:47 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2006? (Fred Shiple)
59. 07:56 PM - Re: Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006 (Lynn Matteson)
60. 09:30 PM - Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP (Jim Crowder)
61. 09:45 PM - Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP (Jim Crowder)
62. 09:51 PM - Re: Flight Time (AMuller589@aol.com)
63. 09:53 PM - Re: Flight Time (Guy Buchanan)
64. 09:54 PM - Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP (Jim Crowder)
65. 10:11 PM - Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP (ron schick)
66. 10:16 PM - Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP (Jim Crowder)
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| Subject: | Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006? |
I learned something about OSH a few years ago.I really didn't want to
fly into that beehive,so I chose to fly into Fond Du Lac. I left Mi.
just before daylight and was calling in at Fond Du Lac about 45 min
later, just before the tower opened. I tried there and OSH and there was
no sound on the radio,no tower,no traffic. I was getting concerned about
my radio when I was answered by the tower"cleared to land"for #
??runway. Nothing wrong w/ the radio. No one was up yet. I fortunately
made a last call before diverting at precisely the tower opening time.
We were the only plane in the sky and the first ones on the ground at
Fond Du Lac. Piece of cake. It was no busier at OSH.
So, if you don't mind getting up in the AM,it is a pretty easy
flight,or was that time. And that was opening day. Larry
Huntley
----- Original Message -----
From: Alexis Meaders
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:37 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006?
FAR 61.93 ' The distance and state is not the issue. The flight
instructor has to feel that you have the experience to safely conduct
the flight and he signs your logbook specifically based on known weather
conditions. As an instructor, I can tell you that I would not endorse
any student for that trip and certainly not into the Oshkosh airport.
There are many experienced pilots who will not fly into Oshkosh and many
who have only flown in once. I would prefer not to be alone so that I
had additional sets of eyes if possible. I think it=92s a great idea to
fly in with someone else before acting as PIC. Remember that students
are not allowed to fly into certain busy terminal areas solo ' Oshkosh
is busier than all of them. Alexis
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marco
Menezes
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 7:41 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006?
Lynn:
I think your instructor is right. I can't cite the FAR # but I recall
from my student pilot days that instructor had to "sign off" on every
new airport before student can fly there solo. There are a bunch of
blank sign-off forms in the back of your log book for this very purpose.
Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
My instructor says that going that distance, alone, out-of-state,
whatever, is against the rules of the "student pilot
certificate"...is
he wrong?
Lynn
On Monday, July 10, 2006, at 03:12 PM, Larry Huntley wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley"
>
> Sounds like you are a "real" pilot as long as you are flying
alone.
> What is the problem? Larry
>
> ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 2:58 PM
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
>>
>> Hey Deke, I'm looking for someone to be the "legal" PIC aboard my
>> plane for the trip over. My instructor has given me his blessing
on
>> making the trip (I'm still a student pilot, although with over 20
hrs
>> solo in the 'fox), but of course I need a "real" pilot on board
to be
>> legal. I'm still looking into the logistics of the whole
thing....4
>> trips there in my motorhome don't count much when going by air,
I'm
>> learning.
>>
>> Lynn
>>
>> On Sunday, July 9, 2006, at 09:15 PM, Fox5flyer wrote:
>>
>>> Was wondering if there would be many Kitfoxers
>>> driving/flying/walking/etc. into AirVenture this year. I plan on
>>> driving and being there for the week, but not the weekend,
staying
>>> at Camp Scholler. It would be nice meet up with some of you
great
>>> people. You know, talk Kitfox, tell lies, share some
refreshments,
>>> that sort of stuff. Perhaps we could also make a point to meet
up
>>> somewhere during the week, maybe Acey Ducey?
>>> Anybody interested?
>>> Deke
>>> NE Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
That is interesting. I was signed off solo on skis,flew on them for about 2
hrs and had to make my next landing on pavement 50 miles away. It was a very
interesting landing, but my old Luscombe and I came through it alright.
I saw the results of an instructor turning a student in a brand new Fox
loose on the blacktop in Venice,Fl. a few years ago. It wasn't pretty.
Dinged up his bird bad. Good idea to stay away from blacktop til you are
really good on grass,and start out in only no wind conditions.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:41 PM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> You are correct, Marco....I just got signed off for 5 grass strips within
> 25nm from my home base. Next are fields within 50nm, then pavement
> (according to the instructor)...I haven't found a FAR that says that I
> can't go to Osh alone, but common sense tells me I shouldn't....dammit!
>
> Lynn
> On Monday, July 10, 2006, at 08:41 PM, Marco Menezes wrote:
>
>> Lynn:
>>
>> I think your instructor is right. I can't cite the FAR # but I recall
>> from my student pilot days that instructor had to "sign off" on every new
>> airport before student can fly there solo. There are a bunch of blank
>> sign-off forms in the back of your log book for this very purpose.
>>
>> Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
>>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
>>
>> My instructor says that going that distance, alone, out-of-state,
>> whatever, is against the rules of the "student pilot certificate"...is
>> he wrong?
>>
>> Lynn
>> On Monday, July 10, 2006, at 03:12 PM, Larry Huntley wrote:
>>
>> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley"
>> >
>> > Sounds like you are a "real" pilot as long as you are flying alone.
>> > What is the problem? Larry
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 2:58 PM
>> >
>> >
>> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
>> >>
>> >> Hey Deke, I'm looking for someone to be the "legal" PIC aboard my
>> >> plane for the trip over. My instructor has given me his blessing on
>> >> making the trip (I'm still a student pilot, although with over 20
>> hrs
>> >> solo in the 'fox), but of course I need a "real" pilot on board to
>> be
>> >> legal. I'm still looking into the logistics of the whole thing....4
>> >> trips there in my motorhome don't count much when going by air, I'm
>> >> learning.
>> >>
>> >> Lynn
>> >>
>> >> On Sunday, July 9, 2006, at 09:15 PM, Fox5flyer wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Was wondering if there would be many Kitfoxers
>> >>> driving/flying/walking/etc. into AirVenture this year. I plan on
>> >>> driving and being there for the week, but not the weekend, staying
>> >>> at Camp Scholler. It would be nice meet up with some of you great
>> >>> people. You know, talk Kitfox, tell lies, share some refreshments,
>> >>> that sort of stuff. Perhaps we could also make a point to meet up
>> >>> somewhere during the week, maybe Acey Ducey?
>> >>> Anybody interested?
>> >>> Deke
>> >>> NE Michigan
>> >>>
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| Subject: | Re: Extra tubes anyone?? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
If you really want to fly perhaps the easy way would be to just go to a
different size tire/tube until the 850s are available?
Deke
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 11:13 PM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
>
> Tried Desser...they are out of stock also. They don't have any 850's in
stock regardless of brand. I think I have tried nearly all the major
suppliers and some of the not so major ones. It is the same story
everywhere...something to do with McCreary and Goodyear loosing their rubber
supplier and having to produce new molds, etc. This bites!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=46269#46269
>
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| Subject: | Re: Extra tubes anyone?? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Darin,
I have been thinking about a pair of 850's also. Keep in mind that a pair of
850's will add 20 lbs to your empty weight. Yep, they really are that much
heavier than 600's.
You would be amazed at the rough places I have landed our model 5 (the same
as your model 7 for all practical purposes) with just plain old 600's. One
of the reasons that I wanted the 850's is because it will raise the front
end of the plane when on the ground thus increasing the angle of incidence
of the wing. This is actually a limiting factor of the kitfox for short
field op's. The standing angle of the wing is much lower than the stall
angle. This causes the fox to use more distance for takeoff than it should.
Also, if you do true full stall landings you will be banging the tailwheel
down on the ground at stall with the mains still up in the air. This is why
tri gear kitfoxes can take off and land shorter than tailwheel kitfoxes.
As far as rough field ops are concerned the biggest limiting factor there is
the landing gear. If you are using the spring aluminum gear, note how close
together are the forward and aft attachment points. Because of this you are
at greater risk of shearing off your gear than would be a supercub. If you
are thinking that the 850's will be good for landing on really rough areas,
perhaps over large rocks, tree limbs or ruts in the ground, keep in mind the
landing gear. The larger tires will only help a little. In fact they may
give you a false sense of security, causing you to land in conditions that
will rip the gear off anyway. In my experience, the 800's should be adequate
for all but roughest stuff, and for that, the 850's won't be enough better
to matter. You would need to step to a pair of AK Bushwheels.
Btw, the 800's are 10 lbs heavier than 600's.
Best regards,
Cliff
Model 5 Lyc 0-235
Erie, Co
I know this is a very long shot but does anyone have a set of 850x6 tubes
they aren't using or don't want? I have had a set on order from Cheif for a
couple months now and they are telling me it will be at least the end of
this year, first of next before they start making them again. My plane is
not flying yet but at this rate, I figure I better start looking now or I
won't be flying for many years to come...at least on my 850's. I guess I
could go with the 800's (they are in stock) if I can't find any of the 850's
but I am hoping someone has a pair they aren't using.
thanks,
Darin
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| Subject: | turtledeck shots |
Thanks Lynn I'll send you a pic of my one piece deck the next time I have
the plane out. I think my glass, flat Lexan, is just slightly smaller than
yours. I have also installed a 1/4 wave com antenna with an RCA connector
on the turtle deck.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
lynnmatt@jps.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:23 AM
Here are the pictures of my t'deck....sorry about the lack of detail in the
dome of the "glass"...it was just too clean to show any depth, or height in
this case.
Lynn
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I installed a one piece turtle deck with no window and don't miss it a
bit.
Dee
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----- Original Message -----
From: Lynn Matteson<mailto:lynnmatt@jps.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Turtle Deck
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
<lynnmatt@jps.net<mailto:lynnmatt@jps.net>>
Jeff-
I got my one-piece t'deck from LP Aeroplastics. You make the former
t'deck a one-piece, then attach the LP version, bubble window, to it.
Lynn
On Friday, July 7, 2006, at 04:08 PM, jeff puls wrote:
> John McBean,
> I have been thinking about replacing the turtle deck on my Classic
IV.
> I was thinking of the Leaxn but think it is probable heavier than
the
> aluminum. What I would like to do is go to a one piece turtle deck
> with one window. Do away with the havles and make it one piece. Do
you
> know if Skystar fabricated their own or did they send that out? Jeff
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| Subject: | Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? |
Help, I am looking at bying a Kitfox 1 and it comes with a never used Rotax
532. I just spent some time on the phone with an authorized Rotax dealer
and he said that the 532 was basically a boat anchor. They do not even have
a parts list for it anymore. We talked about some of the alternatives but I
wanted to find out what other people were using. Is anyone flying a Kitfox
1? What engine combination are you using? What is the TBO? What is the
cost for a rebuild? I have come to the conclusion that the kit I am looking
at is a good deal but not so much if I have to replace the engine with brand
new. Any help would be appreciated.
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| Subject: | Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? |
Can't help you much with the 532 but I have a Kitfox Lite2 (Model 4) with
582 and all mods at Cad$28,000
Gary Algate
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Smith
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:42 AM
Help, I am looking at bying a Kitfox 1 and it comes with a never used Rotax
532. I just spent some time on the phone with an authorized Rotax dealer
and he said that the 532 was basically a boat anchor. They do not even have
a parts list for it anymore. We talked about some of the alternatives but I
wanted to find out what other people were using. Is anyone flying a Kitfox
1? What engine combination are you using? What is the TBO? What is the
cost for a rebuild? I have come to the conclusion that the kit I am looking
at is a good deal but not so much if I have to replace the engine with brand
new. Any help would be appreciated.
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com>
Brian,
I have a model 1 - though I can only offer a distant view.. since I've not yet
flown it. The previous owner mounted floats and in the process installed a Rotax
618. The 618 at 73-74 hp is more power than you would need and seems not to
be all that common an engine. I'm sure others will offer more specific comments
or suggestions.
--------
Richard in SW Michigan
Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh 2006? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Thanks, Lloyd, I'll keep that in mind.
Lynn
On Monday, July 10, 2006, at 11:10 PM, Cudnohufsky's wrote:
> Lynn,
> Another option if the experimental camping is full is to fly inas an
> ultralightand land in the ultralight field and camp there. There
> always seems to be plenty of room there for planes and camping. I flew
> my fox in there for several years that way, no radio communication
> needed, just need to call ahead to verify the field is open.You also
> get tofly in staying under 300 AGL, a real blast and the grass strip
> is plenty big enough for a fox.
> Lloyd
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Good advice, Larry....I made 4 or 5 landings (dual) at JXN (pavement)
and they worked, but not pretty. Since then I've managed about 28 hours
solo, all on grass, and pretty straight. I'm pretty sure I would have
dinged it up by now if not for a VERY demanding instructor. I'm
thinking back to the guy who was going to solo me after 5 hrs tailwheel
training, and he should have his CFI "instructorship" revoked.....I
wasn't anywhere near ready.
Lynn
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On Tuesday, July 11, 2006, at 07:19 AM, Larry Huntley wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
>
> That is interesting. I was signed off solo on skis,flew on them for
> about 2 hrs and had to make my next landing on pavement 50 miles away.
> It was a very interesting landing, but my old Luscombe and I came
> through it alright.
> I saw the results of an instructor turning a student in a brand new
> Fox loose on the blacktop in Venice,Fl. a few years ago. It wasn't
> pretty. Dinged up his bird bad. Good idea to stay away from blacktop
> til you are really good on grass,and start out in only no wind
> conditions.
> Larry
> ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:41 PM
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>>
>> You are correct, Marco....I just got signed off for 5 grass strips
>> within 25nm from my home base. Next are fields within 50nm, then
>> pavement (according to the instructor)...I haven't found a FAR that
>> says that I can't go to Osh alone, but common sense tells me I
>> shouldn't....dammit!
>>
>> Lynn
>> On Monday, July 10, 2006, at 08:41 PM, Marco Menezes wrote:
>>
>>> Lynn:
>>>
>>> I think your instructor is right. I can't cite the FAR # but I
>>> recall from my student pilot days that instructor had to "sign off"
>>> on every new airport before student can fly there solo. There are a
>>> bunch of blank sign-off forms in the back of your log book for this
>>> very purpose.
>>>
>>> Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
>>>
>>> My instructor says that going that distance, alone, out-of-state,
>>> whatever, is against the rules of the "student pilot
>>> certificate"...is
>>> he wrong?
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>> On Monday, July 10, 2006, at 03:12 PM, Larry Huntley wrote:
>>>
>>> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley"
>>> >
>>> > Sounds like you are a "real" pilot as long as you are flying alone.
>>> > What is the problem? Larry
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 2:58 PM
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
>>> >>
>>> >> Hey Deke, I'm looking for someone to be the "legal" PIC aboard my
>>> >> plane for the trip over. My instructor has given me his blessing
>>> on
>>> >> making the trip (I'm still a student pilot, although with over 20
>>> hrs
>>> >> solo in the 'fox), but of course I need a "real" pilot on board to
>>> be
>>> >> legal. I'm still looking into the logistics of the whole
>>> thing....4
>>> >> trips there in my motorhome don't count much when going by air,
>>> I'm
>>> >> learning.
>>> >>
>>> >> Lynn
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sunday, July 9, 2006, at 09:15 PM, Fox5flyer wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Was wondering if there would be many Kitfoxers
>>> >>> driving/flying/walking/etc. into AirVenture this year. I plan on
>>> >>> driving and being there for the week, but not the weekend,
>>> staying
>>> >>> at Camp Scholler. It would be nice meet up with some of you great
>>> >>> people. You know, talk Kitfox, tell lies, share some
>>> refreshments,
>>> >>> that sort of stuff. Perhaps we could also make a point to meet up
>>> >>> somewhere during the week, maybe Acey Ducey?
>>> >>> Anybody interested?
>>> >>> Deke
>>> >>> NE Michigan
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>>> >> http://wiki.matronics.com
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>> http://wiki.matronics.com
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RichWill" <rwill1@adelphia.net>
Never had one myself, but know of many who did and failed... Been around awhile
and they did have problems with the rotary values, something to do with caburation...
I would NOT use it, or offered a price that excludes the engine.. Put in a 582
or go the extra mile and get the 912... you'll be much happier and safer!!
Rich
N50PC
--------
Semper Fi
15 ITT
G2 HqCo HqBn
1st MarDiv
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| Subject: | Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Roger Circle <roger@prophetrock.com>
Lynn,
Quite a few years have passed, but I still vividly remember the experience.
In 1991 I was a student pilot, and my instructor signed me off to make my
long cross-country from Lafayette, Indiana to the EAA convention at Oshkosh.
I was nearly ready for my check ride at the time. My instructor was
confident I could handle the trip in my Kitfox II.
I had to arrive before the convention NOTAMS kicked in, and couldn't leave
for home until the fly-in was over. By doing so, I avoided the high-traffic
days.
I loved every moment of it... the flying, displaying the Kitfox, meeting
lots of great people, establishing friendships that continue today. David
Gustafson chronicled my experience in an article that appeared in the April,
1992 issue of Sport Aviation.
If your instructor will sign you off for the trip, go for it! You'll create
memories that will last a lifetime.
Best wishes,
Roger Circle
Lafayette, IN
Kitfox II, N627C (still going strong)
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| Subject: | Re: Extra tubes anyone?? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
Cliff,
Thanks for the information. I flew my model III with the 800's and they worked
out great...which is what I will do with my 7 if I can't find any tubes. I don't
land anything that is outrageous to the point that I would need the AK Bushwheels,
in fact most of my landings are on what I would call unimproved stips
such as Fish Lake in Idaho and Mexican Mountain and Happy Canyon in Utah. These
strips can be rough but nothing like big rocks, trees, and the like. Gopher
holes, clump grass and smaller rocks are what I see alot of. I also land
out on the salt flats of the Great Salt Lake and this is where the 850's are great
because of the surface area...they tend to stay on the surface of wet sand
better. I also want the extra prop clearance of the 850's. I will most likely
run the 800's until I can find a set of the 850 tubes as it looks as if they
will be a while coming...
Darin
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brian Smith" <bsmith3163@aol.com>
Thanks for the advice Rich. By "rotary values" are you talking about engine
rpm values? I did read something about not operating below 2000 rpm except
for start and shutdown. That seems kind of strange to me. Brian Smith.
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RichWill
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:04 AM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RichWill" <rwill1@adelphia.net>
Never had one myself, but know of many who did and failed... Been around
awhile and they did have problems with the rotary values, something to do
with caburation...
I would NOT use it, or offered a price that excludes the engine.. Put in a
582 or go the extra mile and get the 912... you'll be much happier and
safer!!
Rich
N50PC
--------
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15 ITT
G2 HqCo HqBn
1st MarDiv
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| Subject: | Re: Extra tubes anyone?? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kenneth schooley" <klschooley@hotmail.com>
Try your local off road supplier. The tubes he handles are much less costly
and hold air better than acft. tubes. Good luck, Ken
>From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Extra tubes anyone??
>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:13:17 -0700
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
>
>Tried Desser...they are out of stock also. They don't have any 850's in
>stock regardless of brand. I think I have tried nearly all the major
>suppliers and some of the not so major ones. It is the same story
>everywhere...something to do with McCreary and Goodyear loosing their
>rubber supplier and having to produce new molds, etc. This bites!
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=46269#46269
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com>
I guess you can always do like a spokane local named jerry turner and trailer your
new fox around to flyins and pull it out and taxi it like you just flew in,
of course his isn't a kitfox it's a hyper light, but I think you get the idea.
--------
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kitfox4 1200 912ul speedster
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| Subject: | Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Thanks, Roger....the thought of driving my motorhome up there while a
perfectly good plane sits at home is killing me. : ) I keep thinking
of how I could have had my ticket by now if I'd only:
got my engine delivered when the dealer said it would be
got the inspector to come when he was first supposed to
had better weather here in Michigan, earlier in the Spring
had taildragger instructors closer by, and more available
taken fewer beer breaks during construction....strike that last
one...let's be REASONABLE!
and on, and on....
Lynn
do not archive
On Tuesday, July 11, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Roger Circle wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Roger Circle <roger@prophetrock.com>
>
> Lynn,
>
> Quite a few years have passed, but I still vividly remember the
> experience.
> In 1991 I was a student pilot, and my instructor signed me off to make
> my
> long cross-country from Lafayette, Indiana to the EAA convention at
> Oshkosh.
> I was nearly ready for my check ride at the time. My instructor was
> confident I could handle the trip in my Kitfox II.
>
> I had to arrive before the convention NOTAMS kicked in, and couldn't
> leave
> for home until the fly-in was over. By doing so, I avoided the
> high-traffic
> days.
>
> I loved every moment of it... the flying, displaying the Kitfox,
> meeting
> lots of great people, establishing friendships that continue today.
> David
> Gustafson chronicled my experience in an article that appeared in the
> April,
> 1992 issue of Sport Aviation.
>
> If your instructor will sign you off for the trip, go for it! You'll
> create
> memories that will last a lifetime.
>
> Best wishes,
> Roger Circle
> Lafayette, IN
> Kitfox II, N627C (still going strong)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? I had one on my KF2 |
Flew it for about 80 hours.
I have heard that its a fine engine the original prototype flew great with
it.
But it had points, single ignition, had to pre mix oil and old style Gear
box.
After 80 hours it ran quite well,but once in a while on final it would
hesitate. It never quit. I also found the 532 a bit peaky and hard to keep a
steady cruise speed.
I then installed a 582 Blue head, new, with E Box. Its still a 2 cylinder
2 stroke, but a much better engine. I believe worth the cost. I now have
about 230 hours on this. Much smoother, same power, perfect transition.
Oil injection is a great feature and the E box puts the starter in the
correct place, plus very smooth.
BTW, it was not that easy to change over as the plumbing is a bit different
etc. took me a full week full time.
PS the power was about the same.....
If you must take the plane with engine, take it out, Ebay it, buy a BH 582
:-)
I bought mine from Lockwood, great outfit. just an opinion
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
Lynn,
I understand that you are a newer pilot ? less than 30 hours TT ?
I would not advise flying Oshkosh or any long x country until you are more
proficient.
This time of year wx can change rapidly as well.
Just my opinion from flying for over 25 yrs and still alive.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 1:05 PM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> Thanks, Roger....the thought of driving my motorhome up there while a
> perfectly good plane sits at home is killing me. : ) I keep thinking of
> how I could have had my ticket by now if I'd only:
> got my engine delivered when the dealer said it would be
>
> got the inspector to come when he was first supposed to
>
> had better weather here in Michigan, earlier in the Spring
>
> had taildragger instructors closer by, and more available
>
> taken fewer beer breaks during construction....strike that last
> one...let's be REASONABLE!
>
> and on, and on....
>
> Lynn
> do not archive
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Roger Circle wrote:
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Roger Circle <roger@prophetrock.com>
>>
>> Lynn,
>>
>> Quite a few years have passed, but I still vividly remember the
>> experience.
>> In 1991 I was a student pilot, and my instructor signed me off to make my
>> long cross-country from Lafayette, Indiana to the EAA convention at
>> Oshkosh.
>> I was nearly ready for my check ride at the time. My instructor was
>> confident I could handle the trip in my Kitfox II.
>>
>> I had to arrive before the convention NOTAMS kicked in, and couldn't
>> leave
>> for home until the fly-in was over. By doing so, I avoided the
>> high-traffic
>> days.
>>
>> I loved every moment of it... the flying, displaying the Kitfox, meeting
>> lots of great people, establishing friendships that continue today. David
>> Gustafson chronicled my experience in an article that appeared in the
>> April,
>> 1992 issue of Sport Aviation.
>>
>> If your instructor will sign you off for the trip, go for it! You'll
>> create
>> memories that will last a lifetime.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Roger Circle
>> Lafayette, IN
>> Kitfox II, N627C (still going strong)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Somebody mentioned previously a price and contact for the Navman fuel flow
meter. I have a friend looking for one and would appreciate it if I could
get the contact details.
Best regards
Gary Algate
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
Gary,
I got mine here for 111 $ shipped to Canada overnight , I think it was 130$
total and works fine.
I just flew 7.5 hour x country in 582 on Floats and fuel flow and usage
seemed to be right on the numbers.
http://www.boatersland.com/navf2100.html
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 1:27 PM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
>
>
> Somebody mentioned previously a price and contact for the Navman fuel flow
> meter. I have a friend looking for one and would appreciate it if I could
> get the contact details.
>
> Best regards
>
> Gary Algate
>
>
>
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Dave -
Where in your fuel system did you install the transducer for your Navman?
Dave <dave@cfisher.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave"
Gary,
I got mine here for 111 $ shipped to Canada overnight , I think it was 130$
total and works fine.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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Hi Marco.
It is right below the fuel pump that is mounted to the firewall after
the gascolator. Only thing I did not like is that the transducer is 3/8"
and my fuel line is 1/4" I used angle adapters and it seems to work ok.
I would guess over 100 hours on it now.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Marco Menezes
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Navman
Dave -
Where in your fuel system did you install the transducer for your
Navman?
Dave <dave@cfisher.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave"
Gary,
I got mine here for 111 $ shipped to Canada overnight , I think it
was 130$
total and works fine.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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Likewise I have the Mizer already installed in my Kitfox with over 300 hrs.
The Mizer is the Navman with a new Decal and an aviation rating and a new
price : +$300.00
The transducer is carbon reinforced plastic and I have it fitted between the
main filter and the inlet of the fuel pump. Cliff mentioned that he felt
the plastic transducer might be a problem but I have the same transducer and
it is certified for aviation use so I think in this instance it is fine.
After 4500 ltrs of fuel it reads accuracy to within 1 ltr. Pretty amazing.
To Dave - Thanks for the info I'll contact them today
Gary Algate
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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:41 PM
Hi Marco.
It is right below the fuel pump that is mounted to the firewall after the
gascolator. Only thing I did not like is that the transducer is 3/8" and my
fuel line is 1/4" I used angle adapters and it seems to work ok. I would
guess over 100 hours on it now.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:29 PM
Dave -
Where in your fuel system did you install the transducer for your Navman?
Dave <dave@cfisher.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave"
Gary,
I got mine here for 111 $ shipped to Canada overnight , I think it was 130$
total and works fine.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh 2006? |
Deke,
I'm planning to be there, but not sure when just yet. I think it would be
great for a gaggle of Fox builders to get together sort of like we did a few
years ago. Let's stay in touch until AV starts.
Rick
Series V Speedster - N39RW
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Gary it sounds like your transducer is quite the same as my Navman.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Algate
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:06 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Navman
Likewise I have the Mizer already installed in my Kitfox with over 300
hrs. The Mizer is the Navman with a new Decal and an aviation rating
and a new price : +$300.00
The transducer is carbon reinforced plastic and I have it fitted
between the main filter and the inlet of the fuel pump. Cliff mentioned
that he felt the plastic transducer might be a problem but I have the
same transducer and it is certified for aviation use so I think in this
instance it is fine.
After 4500 ltrs of fuel it reads accuracy to within 1 ltr. Pretty
amazing.
To Dave - Thanks for the info I'll contact them today
Gary Algate
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:41 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Navman
Hi Marco.
It is right below the fuel pump that is mounted to the firewall after
the gascolator. Only thing I did not like is that the transducer is 3/8"
and my fuel line is 1/4" I used angle adapters and it seems to work ok.
I would guess over 100 hours on it now.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Marco Menezes
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Navman
Dave -
Where in your fuel system did you install the transducer for your
Navman?
Dave <dave@cfisher.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave"
Gary,
I got mine here for 111 $ shipped to Canada overnight , I think it
was 130$
total and works fine.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Gary,
I didn't know they had one for avaition use. Mine is the marine unit and not
really suitable for aviation. I would like to see this aviation unit, I
couldn't find it on their web site at www.navman.com.
Cliff
Likewise I have the Mizer already installed in my Kitfox with over 300 hrs.
The Mizer is the Navman with a new Decal and an aviation rating and a new
price : +$300.00
The transducer is carbon reinforced plastic and I have it fitted between the
main filter and the inlet of the fuel pump. Cliff mentioned that he felt
the plastic transducer might be a problem but I have the same transducer and
it is certified for aviation use so I think in this instance it is fine.
After 4500 ltrs of fuel it reads accuracy to within 1 ltr. Pretty amazing.
To Dave - Thanks for the info I'll contact them today
Gary Algate
_____
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:41 PM
Hi Marco.
It is right below the fuel pump that is mounted to the firewall after the
gascolator. Only thing I did not like is that the transducer is 3/8" and my
fuel line is 1/4" I used angle adapters and it seems to work ok. I would
guess over 100 hours on it now.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:29 PM
Dave -
Where in your fuel system did you install the transducer for your Navman?
Dave <dave@cfisher.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave"
Gary,
I got mine here for 111 $ shipped to Canada overnight , I think it was 130$
total and works fine.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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Dave: I'm sure it is the same transducer as I believe the additional cost
was basically related to testing and documentation required to receive
certification.
Cliff: The Mizer isn't marketed by Navman it's marketed by an Australian
company and sold through Aircraft Spruce at USD$325!
I was cleaning the face of mine when the MIZER decal started to deteriorate.
I lifted the decal and found "NAVMAN" printed on the display. - Expensive
decal!!
Regards to all
Gary
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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:20 PM
Deke,
I'm planning to be there, but not sure when just yet. I think it would be
great for a gaggle of Fox builders to get together sort of like we did a few
years ago. Let's stay in touch until AV starts.
Rick
Series V Speedster - N39RW
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http://www.navman.com/upload/Marine/specs/Navman06_3k_2k_specs.pdf
The only other thing getting the Marine one is that you get about 30
feet of wire attached to transducer. But hey the term aviation may only
relate to the extra insurance costs and you might get less wire . I
think my installation only used about 3 feet of wire.
Same as alot of products - if you tell them it for aviation it will cost
you more and might not be any differance in product.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Algate
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:49 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh 2006?
Dave: I'm sure it is the same transducer as I believe the additional
cost was basically related to testing and documentation required to
receive certification.
Cliff: The Mizer isn't marketed by Navman it's marketed by an
Australian company and sold through Aircraft Spruce at USD$325!
I was cleaning the face of mine when the MIZER decal started to
deteriorate. I lifted the decal and found "NAVMAN" printed on the
display. - Expensive decal!!
Regards to all
Gary
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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:20 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh 2006?
Deke,
I'm planning to be there, but not sure when just yet. I think it
would be great for a gaggle of Fox builders to get together sort of like
we did a few years ago. Let's stay in touch until AV starts.
Rick
Series V Speedster - N39RW
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Here is the actual manual for the Navman 2100
http://www.navman.com/upload/Marine/Internet_Manuals/2000/2100_fuel_MN000
207A_eng_web.pdf
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Algate
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:06 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Navman
Likewise I have the Mizer already installed in my Kitfox with over 300
hrs. The Mizer is the Navman with a new Decal and an aviation rating
and a new price : +$300.00
The transducer is carbon reinforced plastic and I have it fitted
between the main filter and the inlet of the fuel pump. Cliff mentioned
that he felt the plastic transducer might be a problem but I have the
same transducer and it is certified for aviation use so I think in this
instance it is fine.
After 4500 ltrs of fuel it reads accuracy to within 1 ltr. Pretty
amazing.
To Dave - Thanks for the info I'll contact them today
Gary Algate
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:41 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Navman
Hi Marco.
It is right below the fuel pump that is mounted to the firewall after
the gascolator. Only thing I did not like is that the transducer is 3/8"
and my fuel line is 1/4" I used angle adapters and it seems to work ok.
I would guess over 100 hours on it now.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Marco Menezes
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Navman
Dave -
Where in your fuel system did you install the transducer for your
Navman?
Dave <dave@cfisher.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave"
Gary,
I got mine here for 111 $ shipped to Canada overnight , I think it
was 130$
total and works fine.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Low Fuel Warning |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Sorry to rehash old subjects but I know that a lot of the Kitfoxes with wing
tanks only use a low fuel warning device mounted on the small header tank.
Can I get info/ pricing and contact for this device.
Regards
Gary Algate
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
That is the same display that I have. The part that worries me is the
transducer. The hose barbs are a "not so heavy duty" plastic. That's my only
gripe with it. It actually works very well.
Cliff
http://www.navman.com/upload/Marine/specs/Navman06_3k_2k_specs.pdf
The only other thing getting the Marine one is that you get about 30 feet
of wire attached to transducer. But hey the term aviation may only relate
to the extra insurance costs and you might get less wire . I think my
installation only used about 3 feet of wire.
Same as alot of products - if you tell them it for aviation it will cost you
more and might not be any differance in product.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Algate
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:49 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh 2006?
Dave: I'm sure it is the same transducer as I believe the additional cost
was basically related to testing and documentation required to receive
certification.
Cliff: The Mizer isn't marketed by Navman it's marketed by an Australian
company and sold through Aircraft Spruce at USD$325!
I was cleaning the face of mine when the MIZER decal started to
deteriorate. I lifted the decal and found "NAVMAN" printed on the display. -
Expensive decal!!
Regards to all
Gary
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Mdkitfox@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:20 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh 2006?
Deke,
I'm planning to be there, but not sure when just yet. I think it would be
great for a gaggle of Fox builders to get together sort of like we did a few
years ago. Let's stay in touch until AV starts.
Rick
Series V Speedster - N39RW
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh 2006 - watermellon social |
If I don't see your before, I'll definitely see you at the O.
Which day is the WM festival?
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: Malcolmbru@aol.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh 2006 - watermellon social
Yes deek it is a blast and the watermellon is free only the other
food will cost you. John Napp (snaps) realy lets the watermellon fly
and he is a kitfox / avid seaplain pilot also malcolm
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Don't forget about Floscan. It's also an excellent unit as I can attest
after 325 hours. Very accurate. Available in marine catalogs line
Consumer Marine, West Marine, etc.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: Algate
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:06 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Navman
Likewise I have the Mizer already installed in my Kitfox with over 300
hrs. The Mizer is the Navman with a new Decal and an aviation rating
and a new price : +$300.00
The transducer is carbon reinforced plastic and I have it fitted
between the main filter and the inlet of the fuel pump. Cliff mentioned
that he felt the plastic transducer might be a problem but I have the
same transducer and it is certified for aviation use so I think in this
instance it is fine.
After 4500 ltrs of fuel it reads accuracy to within 1 ltr. Pretty
amazing.
To Dave - Thanks for the info I'll contact them today
Gary Algate
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:41 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Navman
Hi Marco.
It is right below the fuel pump that is mounted to the firewall after
the gascolator. Only thing I did not like is that the transducer is 3/8"
and my fuel line is 1/4" I used angle adapters and it seems to work ok.
I would guess over 100 hours on it now.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Marco Menezes
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Navman
Dave -
Where in your fuel system did you install the transducer for your
Navman?
Dave <dave@cfisher.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave"
Gary,
I got mine here for 111 $ shipped to Canada overnight , I think it
was 130$
total and works fine.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh 2006? |
Enjoyed the phone conversation Rick. Will see you there for sure.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: Mdkitfox@aol.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh 2006?
Deke,
I'm planning to be there, but not sure when just yet. I think it
would be great for a gaggle of Fox builders to get together sort of like
we did a few years ago. Let's stay in touch until AV starts.
Rick
Series V Speedster - N39RW
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| Subject: | Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
I will be 70 on the 11th of September and am going through what has
seemed like a very bad year with prostate cancer, treatment, etc. I
am currently receiving both hormone and chemo treatment. I received
the third of four planned chemo infusions this past Tuesday and I
don't think I have slept more than twenty total hours since that
time. While I have been eating good during this week, I have lost
five pounds with my only exercise being to walk from room to
room. Based on the first two sessions, I will be feeling much better
in a few days. Right now I am so weak that sitting at my computer is
an effort. Before you get to feeling too sorry for me, I need to
tell you that my choice of treatment is really working. After only
two sessions, my PSA has fallen from 8.51 to 0.28 and log charts of
the PSA tests indicate that by the end of August it will have fallen
to 0.01--that's pretty near zero. These are not medical charts. My
PhD. chemical engineer son did them for me. He does a lot of
modeling in his research. Of course the charts may be wrong, but
even my last number is fantastic. My doctors performed all known
scans and I even had my previously radiated prostate biopsied, and
no actual cancer was ever found anywhere in mybody. Subjecting
oneself to chemo under these circumstances is not standard
practice. I linked up with a young oncologist who said "Lets try
it." There is absolutely no reason I should not be able to get a new
medical after I complete this, but I suspect from past experience
that they will review this, or let it sit on someone's desk, for
months before they act. This plus my age (70 years) means that
keeping a current medical could be a real pain in the back. If
anyone wants more info on my cancer experience, I am glad to share.
I have talked with the FAA approved inspector who did my original
inspection and he has agreed that if I change my engine and prop
package, establishing a gross weight of 1320 lbs would be in
order. He does not want me to surrender my current registration and
rebuild from a retained portion of the aircraft. Bill Ray who
provided builder assistance for the final part of the original Series
5 project had me show the gross weight at 1650 lbs. for floats,
etc. I think that works to my advantage now because with a small
engine, there is no justification for that weight, if there ever
was. Therefore lowering it is only responsible.
That brings me to the point of this email. Last night while lying in
bed and unable to sleep, I came to the following decisions. I will
bite the bullet and get rid of the cabin adjustable prop and turbo
engine so as to own an airplane that could be flown by a pilot flying
under the light sport designation. I also plan to sell my 38T Hans
Christian sailboat I keep in Hawaii. I do not have time to keep all
of my toys working! I need to simplify my life. To ease my
withdrawal, my son suggested a sailboat simulator. He says all I
need to do is stand in my shower and tear up twenty dollar bills. My
experience is that they would need to be hundred dollar bills. Since
I spend most of my time in Colorado where my Kitfox is hangered, I
will then be able to concentrate on it. He didn't propose a simulator
for owning and flying a Kitfox.
Like the other NSI Turbo owners, I had finally worked out the
kinks. At least those that I knew of. My last problem was with a
Scott tail wheel that shimmied. After three efforts of having my
tail wheel spring re bent, I think that was probably solved and when
we went to test it a few months back, we discovered that one of the
ignitions was not working. With my other above problems, I had no
time to check it out. I do not want to sell the engine without
disclosing everything I know including that NSI is no longer in
business. My original payment to NSI totaled $17,438.70 at the time
of purchase. I think they went up some after that. I have since
added the larger Ellison carburetor and the new stainless steel
exhaust crossover, developed by list members, to which I added a high
temperature coating. All at siginificant cost. The exhauset
crossover fits like a glove and works beautifully. I also have the
digital prop pitch indicator which is working.
I propose to sell the still mounted full package for fifty cents on
the dollar as is. Rounded down that would come to $8,700.00 f.o.b.
Loveland, Colorado, with no additional payment asked for my
upgrades. The engine has actual hours of less than 40 with about 12
of those flying. I want to offer someone in different circumstances
than mine, a high performance experimental engine package at a
deal. It would also recover some of my costs which I can use toward
buying an engine appropriate for a light sport aircraft.
Beyond this I have the Rocky Mountain Instruments engine and flight
monitoring instruments which I will offer at forty cents on the
dollar of the purchase prices. I plan to make every thing very
simple and basic.
Feel free to discus the above including my asking prices. I am sure
both I and any prospective buyers would welcome this.
Jim Crowder
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Can anyone tell me what size the camlocs on the model 1V cowls are. I
need to replace some of them and need the part number or size so I can
order them.
Regards
Graeme
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Graeme I believe my Kitfox is mainly #3. Wait for more responses as my
Avid has some #4 and 5. I made an order from ACS of the plain steel ones
with an assortment for test fitting. They are marked on the head.
Ron NB Ore
>From: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Camlocs
>Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 07:33:35 +1000
>
>Can anyone tell me what size the camlocs on the model 1V cowls are. I need
>to replace some of them and need the part number or size so I can order
>them.
>
>Regards
>Graeme
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| Subject: | Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
Hi Jim, thanks for sharing your battle with cancer with us. I wish you all
the best and hope the positive results you are getting continue through to
your recovery. I had a bad experience that I shared with the list members
and to be honest it was great to know so much support and concern for my
well being was there. Please keep us informed of your progress.
Kind Regards
Graeme
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:28 AM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
>
> I will be 70 on the 11th of September and am going through what has seemed
> like a very bad year with prostate cancer, treatment, etc. I am currently
> receiving both hormone and chemo treatment. I received the third of four
> planned chemo infusions this past Tuesday and I don't think I have slept
> more than twenty total hours since that time. While I have been eating
> good during this week, I have lost five pounds with my only exercise being
> to walk from room to room. Based on the first two sessions, I will be
> feeling much better in a few days. Right now I am so weak that sitting at
> my computer is an effort. Before you get to feeling too sorry for me, I
> need to tell you that my choice of treatment is really working. After
> only two sessions, my PSA has fallen from 8.51 to 0.28 and log charts of
> the PSA tests indicate that by the end of August it will have fallen to
> 0.01--that's pretty near zero. These are not medical charts. My PhD.
> chemical engineer son did them for me. He does a lot of modeling in his
> research. Of course the charts may be wrong, but even my last number is
> fantastic. My doctors performed all known scans and I even had my
> previously radiated prostate biopsied, and no actual cancer was ever found
> anywhere in mybody. Subjecting oneself to chemo under these circumstances
> is not standard practice. I linked up with a young oncologist who said
> "Lets try it." There is absolutely no reason I should not be able to get
> a new medical after I complete this, but I suspect from past experience
> that they will review this, or let it sit on someone's desk, for months
> before they act. This plus my age (70 years) means that keeping a current
> medical could be a real pain in the back. If anyone wants more info on my
> cancer experience, I am glad to share.
>
> I have talked with the FAA approved inspector who did my original
> inspection and he has agreed that if I change my engine and prop package,
> establishing a gross weight of 1320 lbs would be in order. He does not
> want me to surrender my current registration and rebuild from a retained
> portion of the aircraft. Bill Ray who provided builder assistance for the
> final part of the original Series 5 project had me show the gross weight
> at 1650 lbs. for floats, etc. I think that works to my advantage now
> because with a small engine, there is no justification for that weight, if
> there ever was. Therefore lowering it is only responsible.
>
> That brings me to the point of this email. Last night while lying in bed
> and unable to sleep, I came to the following decisions. I will bite the
> bullet and get rid of the cabin adjustable prop and turbo engine so as to
> own an airplane that could be flown by a pilot flying under the light
> sport designation. I also plan to sell my 38T Hans Christian sailboat I
> keep in Hawaii. I do not have time to keep all of my toys working! I
> need to simplify my life. To ease my withdrawal, my son suggested a
> sailboat simulator. He says all I need to do is stand in my shower and
> tear up twenty dollar bills. My experience is that they would need to be
> hundred dollar bills. Since I spend most of my time in Colorado where my
> Kitfox is hangered, I will then be able to concentrate on it. He didn't
> propose a simulator for owning and flying a Kitfox.
>
> Like the other NSI Turbo owners, I had finally worked out the kinks. At
> least those that I knew of. My last problem was with a Scott tail wheel
> that shimmied. After three efforts of having my tail wheel spring re
> bent, I think that was probably solved and when we went to test it a few
> months back, we discovered that one of the ignitions was not working.
> With my other above problems, I had no time to check it out. I do not
> want to sell the engine without disclosing everything I know including
> that NSI is no longer in business. My original payment to NSI totaled
> $17,438.70 at the time of purchase. I think they went up some after that.
> I have since added the larger Ellison carburetor and the new stainless
> steel exhaust crossover, developed by list members, to which I added a
> high temperature coating. All at siginificant cost. The exhauset
> crossover fits like a glove and works beautifully. I also have the
> digital prop pitch indicator which is working.
>
> I propose to sell the still mounted full package for fifty cents on the
> dollar as is. Rounded down that would come to $8,700.00 f.o.b. Loveland,
> Colorado, with no additional payment asked for my upgrades. The engine
> has actual hours of less than 40 with about 12 of those flying. I want to
> offer someone in different circumstances than mine, a high performance
> experimental engine package at a deal. It would also recover some of my
> costs which I can use toward buying an engine appropriate for a light
> sport aircraft.
>
> Beyond this I have the Rocky Mountain Instruments engine and flight
> monitoring instruments which I will offer at forty cents on the dollar of
> the purchase prices. I plan to make every thing very simple and basic.
>
> Feel free to discus the above including my asking prices. I am sure both
> I and any prospective buyers would welcome this.
>
> Jim Crowder
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
A 912 will not fit. The fuselage tubing up until the 3 (possibly IV) is too
small to support the weight. The Geo, with 65hp and 150#, is at the upper
limit of what I can install on my M2.
I would suggest you go with the Geo, but if you NEED a Rotax, go with the
582. The grey-heads are fine if you can find one, and be prepared to do ALL
that is required to maintain it ($$$). If you aren't, then your choices are
that much more limited on the 1.
Bradley
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RichWill
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:04 AM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RichWill" <rwill1@adelphia.net>
Never had one myself, but know of many who did and failed... Been around
awhile and they did have problems with the rotary values, something to do
with caburation...
I would NOT use it, or offered a price that excludes the engine.. Put in a
582 or go the extra mile and get the 912... you'll be much happier and
safer!!
Rich
N50PC
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1st MarDiv
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| Subject: | Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JC" <jc@arcom.com.au>
G'day Jim sorry to hear your plight, I just heard a very good friend of
mine has stomach cancer, she is a registered nurse and I have been
researching info and came across a very well respected Organisation in
Melbourne that has had excellent success with all types of cancer, here are
the contacts info ... just my two bob's worth, have a couple of guys
putting in Subys into the Aeropups, if I get another customer that wants one
I will refer them to you, regards from John at Aeropup in Oz
The Gawler Foundation
Profound Healing, Sustainable Wellbeing
Yvonne Waters
Support Services Officer
The Gawler Foundation
55 Rayner Court, Yarra Junction, Victoria 3797
Ph: (03) 5967 1730 Fax: (03) 5967 1715
Email: info@gawler.org Web: www.gawler.org
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:58 AM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
>
> I will be 70 on the 11th of September and am going through what has seemed
> like a very bad year with prostate cancer, treatment, etc. I am currently
> receiving both hormone and chemo treatment. I received the third of four
> planned chemo infusions this past Tuesday and I don't think I have slept
> more than twenty total hours since that time. While I have been eating
> good during this week, I have lost five pounds with my only exercise being
> to walk from room to room. Based on the first two sessions, I will be
> feeling much better in a few days. Right now I am so weak that sitting at
> my computer is an effort. Before you get to feeling too sorry for me, I
> need to tell you that my choice of treatment is really working. After
> only two sessions, my PSA has fallen from 8.51 to 0.28 and log charts of
> the PSA tests indicate that by the end of August it will have fallen to
> 0.01--that's pretty near zero. These are not medical charts. My PhD.
> chemical engineer son did them for me. He does a lot of modeling in his
> research. Of course the charts may be wrong, but even my last number is
> fantastic. My doctors performed all known scans and I even had my
> previously radiated prostate biopsied, and no actual cancer was ever found
> anywhere in mybody. Subjecting oneself to chemo under these circumstances
> is not standard practice. I linked up with a young oncologist who said
> "Lets try it." There is absolutely no reason I should not be able to get
> a new medical after I complete this, but I suspect from past experience
> that they will review this, or let it sit on someone's desk, for months
> before they act. This plus my age (70 years) means that keeping a current
> medical could be a real pain in the back. If anyone wants more info on my
> cancer experience, I am glad to share.
>
> I have talked with the FAA approved inspector who did my original
> inspection and he has agreed that if I change my engine and prop package,
> establishing a gross weight of 1320 lbs would be in order. He does not
> want me to surrender my current registration and rebuild from a retained
> portion of the aircraft. Bill Ray who provided builder assistance for the
> final part of the original Series 5 project had me show the gross weight
> at 1650 lbs. for floats, etc. I think that works to my advantage now
> because with a small engine, there is no justification for that weight, if
> there ever was. Therefore lowering it is only responsible.
>
> That brings me to the point of this email. Last night while lying in bed
> and unable to sleep, I came to the following decisions. I will bite the
> bullet and get rid of the cabin adjustable prop and turbo engine so as to
> own an airplane that could be flown by a pilot flying under the light
> sport designation. I also plan to sell my 38T Hans Christian sailboat I
> keep in Hawaii. I do not have time to keep all of my toys working! I
> need to simplify my life. To ease my withdrawal, my son suggested a
> sailboat simulator. He says all I need to do is stand in my shower and
> tear up twenty dollar bills. My experience is that they would need to be
> hundred dollar bills. Since I spend most of my time in Colorado where my
> Kitfox is hangered, I will then be able to concentrate on it. He didn't
> propose a simulator for owning and flying a Kitfox.
>
> Like the other NSI Turbo owners, I had finally worked out the kinks. At
> least those that I knew of. My last problem was with a Scott tail wheel
> that shimmied. After three efforts of having my tail wheel spring re
> bent, I think that was probably solved and when we went to test it a few
> months back, we discovered that one of the ignitions was not working.
> With my other above problems, I had no time to check it out. I do not
> want to sell the engine without disclosing everything I know including
> that NSI is no longer in business. My original payment to NSI totaled
> $17,438.70 at the time of purchase. I think they went up some after that.
> I have since added the larger Ellison carburetor and the new stainless
> steel exhaust crossover, developed by list members, to which I added a
> high temperature coating. All at siginificant cost. The exhauset
> crossover fits like a glove and works beautifully. I also have the
> digital prop pitch indicator which is working.
>
> I propose to sell the still mounted full package for fifty cents on the
> dollar as is. Rounded down that would come to $8,700.00 f.o.b. Loveland,
> Colorado, with no additional payment asked for my upgrades. The engine
> has actual hours of less than 40 with about 12 of those flying. I want to
> offer someone in different circumstances than mine, a high performance
> experimental engine package at a deal. It would also recover some of my
> costs which I can use toward buying an engine appropriate for a light
> sport aircraft.
>
> Beyond this I have the Rocky Mountain Instruments engine and flight
> monitoring instruments which I will offer at forty cents on the dollar of
> the purchase prices. I plan to make every thing very simple and basic.
>
> Feel free to discus the above including my asking prices. I am sure both
> I and any prospective buyers would welcome this.
>
> Jim Crowder
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Low Fuel Warning |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
I bought mine from either Wicks or ACS. It screws in place of the
brass fitting. Compatible with alcohol and gasoline.
Very inexpensive float switch to turn on a red light on your panel.
Paul
=============
At 02:25 PM 7/11/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
>
>Sorry to rehash old subjects but I know that a lot of the Kitfoxes with wing
>tanks only use a low fuel warning device mounted on the small header tank.
>Can I get info/ pricing and contact for this device.
>
>Regards
>Gary Algate
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
Hey Cliff,
I searched and searched for Fuel Mizer then found out that Navman
took them over same country - Australia. When the list discovered the
Fuel Mizer, way back in time, the guys who bought them said the
aviation on had threaded fittings and the boat one had push-on hose
fittings. Now the aviation one is over USD300 and the boat one is a
little over USD100. The transducer and the head were apparently the
same. It has a small turbine just like the Flowscan. IMO, push-on
connection works just fine, just like the pushon connection on the
Rotax fuel pump. Both were 3/8" fittings. Installation for those who
have not got one should be in a vertical line downstream of your fuel
filter. Per the install manual.
With regard to "not suitable for aviation". I strongly disagree. The
things are made for marine use and they use the same gasoline laced
with bad chemicals that we use in our cars. I think the Coast guard
would ban them if they ever failed and caused a fuel leak. That
feature alone makes it suitable for my use.
Regards, Paul
PS, I guess you use Mil 6000 fuel hose because the stuff is approved
for aviation. Good luck. PW
=================
At 01:34 PM 7/11/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
><shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>
>Gary,
>I didn't know they had one for avaition use. Mine is the marine unit and not
>really suitable for aviation. I would like to see this aviation unit, I
>couldn't find it on their web site at www.navman.com.
>Cliff
>
>
>Likewise I have the Mizer already installed in my Kitfox with over 300 hrs.
>The Mizer is the Navman with a new Decal and an aviation rating and a new
>price : +$300.00
>
>
>The transducer is carbon reinforced plastic and I have it fitted between the
>main filter and the inlet of the fuel pump. Cliff mentioned that he felt
>the plastic transducer might be a problem but I have the same transducer and
>it is certified for aviation use so I think in this instance it is fine.
>
>
>After 4500 ltrs of fuel it reads accuracy to within 1 ltr. Pretty amazing.
>
>
>To Dave - Thanks for the info I'll contact them today
>
>
>Gary Algate
>
>
> _____
>
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
>Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:41 PM
>
>
>Hi Marco.
>
>
>It is right below the fuel pump that is mounted to the firewall after the
>gascolator. Only thing I did not like is that the transducer is 3/8" and my
>fuel line is 1/4" I used angle adapters and it seems to work ok. I would
>guess over 100 hours on it now.
>
>
>Dave
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:29 PM
>
>
>Dave -
>
>
>Where in your fuel system did you install the transducer for your Navman?
>
>Dave <dave@cfisher.com> wrote:
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave"
>
>Gary,
>
>I got mine here for 111 $ shipped to Canada overnight , I think it was 130$
>total and works fine.
>
>
>Marco Menezes
>Model 2 582 N99KX
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
About 28 hrs solo in the 'fox, and about 108 hrs total dual so far.
Weather? You mean like when I took off this morning, got 400 feet up
and things went to hell....low clouds....circled the field to gain my
composure, then made a very short downwind, base, and final 20 mph too
fast, then set it down just like I knew what I was doing. Scared the
crap out of me, and taught me a lesson...call the FSS!
Lynn
On Tuesday, July 11, 2006, at 01:18 PM, Dave wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
>
> Lynn,
>
> I understand that you are a newer pilot ? less than 30 hours TT ?
> I would not advise flying Oshkosh or any long x country until you are
> more proficient.
> This time of year wx can change rapidly as well.
>
> Just my opinion from flying for over 25 yrs and still alive.
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 1:05 PM
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>>
>> Thanks, Roger....the thought of driving my motorhome up there while a
>> perfectly good plane sits at home is killing me. : ) I keep
>> thinking of how I could have had my ticket by now if I'd only:
>> got my engine delivered when the dealer said it would be
>>
>> got the inspector to come when he was first supposed to
>>
>> had better weather here in Michigan, earlier in the Spring
>>
>> had taildragger instructors closer by, and more available
>>
>> taken fewer beer breaks during construction....strike that last
>> one...let's be REASONABLE!
>>
>> and on, and on....
>>
>> Lynn
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 11, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Roger Circle wrote:
>>
>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Roger Circle
>>> <roger@prophetrock.com>
>>>
>>> Lynn,
>>>
>>> Quite a few years have passed, but I still vividly remember the
>>> experience.
>>> In 1991 I was a student pilot, and my instructor signed me off to
>>> make my
>>> long cross-country from Lafayette, Indiana to the EAA convention at
>>> Oshkosh.
>>> I was nearly ready for my check ride at the time. My instructor was
>>> confident I could handle the trip in my Kitfox II.
>>>
>>> I had to arrive before the convention NOTAMS kicked in, and couldn't
>>> leave
>>> for home until the fly-in was over. By doing so, I avoided the
>>> high-traffic
>>> days.
>>>
>>> I loved every moment of it... the flying, displaying the Kitfox,
>>> meeting
>>> lots of great people, establishing friendships that continue today.
>>> David
>>> Gustafson chronicled my experience in an article that appeared in
>>> the April,
>>> 1992 issue of Sport Aviation.
>>>
>>> If your instructor will sign you off for the trip, go for it! You'll
>>> create
>>> memories that will last a lifetime.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Roger Circle
>>> Lafayette, IN
>>> Kitfox II, N627C (still going strong)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>> http://wiki.matronics.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
Thanks Ron, as I cant find anywhere in Australia that sells them they will
need to come from the States. I'll wait to see if anyone else can give me a
defineate answer but in the mean time I'll check to see if mine are stamped
on the head..
Cheers
Graeme ----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:53 AM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
> Graeme I believe my Kitfox is mainly #3. Wait for more responses as my
> Avid has some #4 and 5. I made an order from ACS of the plain steel ones
> with an assortment for test fitting. They are marked on the head.
> Ron NB Ore
>
>
>>From: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
>>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Kitfox-List: Camlocs
>>Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 07:33:35 +1000
>>
>>Can anyone tell me what size the camlocs on the model 1V cowls are. I need
>>to replace some of them and need the part number or size so I can order
>>them.
>>
>>Regards
>>Graeme
>
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| Subject: | Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
Lynn Matteson wrote:
> About 28 hrs solo in the 'fox, and about 108 hrs total dual so far.
>
> Weather? You mean like when I took off this morning, got 400 feet up
> and things went to hell....low clouds....circled the field to gain my
> composure, then made a very short downwind, base, and final 20 mph too
> fast, then set it down just like I knew what I was doing. Scared the
> crap out of me, and taught me a lesson...call the FSS!
>
> Lynn
Lynn,
Wow, you should have two tickets with those kind of hours!! Why haven't you taken
your checkride? Just curious...
Darin
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=46497#46497
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Eric" <iworonko@cox.net>
Graeme,
If they are like a Mod. IV then the camlocks are # 3. I have lots of the
screwdriver head type .
Just tell me how many you need and I will send you a hand full just for the
price of shipping.
Eric
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:01 PM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Thanks Ron, as I cant find anywhere in Australia that sells them they will
> need to come from the States. I'll wait to see if anyone else can give me
> a defineate answer but in the mean time I'll check to see if mine are
> stamped on the head..
> Cheers
> Graeme ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:53 AM
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
>> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>>
>> Graeme I believe my Kitfox is mainly #3. Wait for more responses as my
>> Avid has some #4 and 5. I made an order from ACS of the plain steel ones
>> with an assortment for test fitting. They are marked on the head.
>> Ron NB Ore
>>
>>
>>>From: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
>>>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>>>Subject: Kitfox-List: Camlocs
>>>Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 07:33:35 +1000
>>>
>>>Can anyone tell me what size the camlocs on the model 1V cowls are. I
>>>need to replace some of them and need the part number or size so I can
>>>order them.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Graeme
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
Thats very generous Eric and I appreciate the offer but I need about 15 to
finish off the cowls and I know they are around $2.50 - $3.00each. If you
have that many to spare I will be more than happy to pay retail cost for
them after all you had to purchase them yourself.
Regards
Graeme
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:23 AM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Eric" <iworonko@cox.net>
>
> Graeme,
> If they are like a Mod. IV then the camlocks are # 3. I have lots of the
> screwdriver head type .
> Just tell me how many you need and I will send you a hand full just for
> the price of shipping.
> Eric
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:01 PM
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
>>
>> Thanks Ron, as I cant find anywhere in Australia that sells them they
>> will need to come from the States. I'll wait to see if anyone else can
>> give me a defineate answer but in the mean time I'll check to see if mine
>> are stamped on the head..
>> Cheers
>> Graeme ----- Original Message -----
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:53 AM
>>
>>
>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
>>> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>>>
>>> Graeme I believe my Kitfox is mainly #3. Wait for more responses as my
>>> Avid has some #4 and 5. I made an order from ACS of the plain steel ones
>>> with an assortment for test fitting. They are marked on the head.
>>> Ron NB Ore
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
>>>>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>>>>Subject: Kitfox-List: Camlocs
>>>>Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 07:33:35 +1000
>>>>
>>>>Can anyone tell me what size the camlocs on the model 1V cowls are. I
>>>>need to replace some of them and need the part number or size so I can
>>>>order them.
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>Graeme
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>> to
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Paul,
I would be happy if I had the screw-on fittings (metal)
What I have is the marine plastic push on. The unit works well enough and
will certainly stand up to any fuel that I throw at it. The issue is the
flimsy plastic hose barbs. It for this reason and this reason only that I
made the statement about not being suitable for aviation and I STRONGLY
stand by that statement.
This is experimental aviation so you can use whatever you want. I clearly
gave my reason for my statement in a previous message, but no one has
bothered to address that issue. Instead I get sarcasm about Mil 6000. If you
paid the least bit attention you would know that I was one who suffered mil
6000 destruction when using mogas on our first kitfox and I have been a
strong opponent of that crap for mogas use ever since. Despite the
experience of many on the list there are still those with their head in the
sand about mil 6000. Just because it hasn't happened to them ...it's not a
problem. I have first hand experience with the marine sender with the
plastic hose barb fittings, do you?
I have lots of "experimental" stuff on my plane, but each item is evaluated
for it's suitability for the job and for the environment in which it has to
perform. Despite the insinuation, I am not one of those that only uses
official "aviation" approved parts. But I am one that tries to spot problems
areas BEFORE they become a problem.
The reality is that the marine fuel sender "might" just last a long time in
an airplane, or it might not. In my view the one with the plastic hose barbs
is suspect and there are better options available.
I like my Navman unit, but I want to replace the sender. The fuel mizer unit
might be just the ticket, or I might try a flowscan sender for under $200.
The fuel mizer with the threaded fittings sound like a great unit, but I
still would recommend to those that haven't installed one yet to NOT use the
one with plastic hose barb fittings. It's my opinion and it's likely worth
what you paid for it.
I'm finished venting now, lets go have a beer together... ;-)
Best regards,
Cliff
PS, I've had my share of issues with our kitfoxes over the years and I
always try to share with the list the ones that I think are important
(meaning someone could get hurt) But I have learned that most people will
pay no heed to it until it happens to them. I have no delusion about
changing anyone's mind that already has a marine sender in their plane. I
make these comments for the builder that hasn't installed one yet.
Hey Cliff,
I searched and searched for Fuel Mizer then found out that Navman
took them over same country - Australia. When the list discovered the
Fuel Mizer, way back in time, the guys who bought them said the
aviation on had threaded fittings and the boat one had push-on hose
fittings. Now the aviation one is over USD300 and the boat one is a
little over USD100. The transducer and the head were apparently the
same. It has a small turbine just like the Flowscan. IMO, push-on
connection works just fine, just like the pushon connection on the
Rotax fuel pump. Both were 3/8" fittings. Installation for those who
have not got one should be in a vertical line downstream of your fuel
filter. Per the install manual.
With regard to "not suitable for aviation". I strongly disagree. The
things are made for marine use and they use the same gasoline laced
with bad chemicals that we use in our cars. I think the Coast guard
would ban them if they ever failed and caused a fuel leak. That
feature alone makes it suitable for my use.
Regards, Paul
PS, I guess you use Mil 6000 fuel hose because the stuff is approved
for aviation. Good luck. PW
=================
At 01:34 PM 7/11/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
><shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>
>Gary,
>I didn't know they had one for avaition use. Mine is the marine unit and
>not
>really suitable for aviation. I would like to see this aviation unit, I
>couldn't find it on their web site at www.navman.com.
>Cliff
>
>
>Likewise I have the Mizer already installed in my Kitfox with over 300 hrs.
>The Mizer is the Navman with a new Decal and an aviation rating and a new
>price : +$300.00
>
>
>The transducer is carbon reinforced plastic and I have it fitted between
>the
>main filter and the inlet of the fuel pump. Cliff mentioned that he felt
>the plastic transducer might be a problem but I have the same transducer
>and
>it is certified for aviation use so I think in this instance it is fine.
>
>
>After 4500 ltrs of fuel it reads accuracy to within 1 ltr. Pretty amazing.
>
>
>To Dave - Thanks for the info I'll contact them today
>
>
>Gary Algate
>
>
> _____
>
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
>Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:41 PM
>
>
>Hi Marco.
>
>
>It is right below the fuel pump that is mounted to the firewall after the
>gascolator. Only thing I did not like is that the transducer is 3/8" and my
>fuel line is 1/4" I used angle adapters and it seems to work ok. I would
>guess over 100 hours on it now.
>
>
>Dave
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:29 PM
>
>
>Dave -
>
>
>Where in your fuel system did you install the transducer for your Navman?
>
>Dave <dave@cfisher.com> wrote:
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave"
>
>Gary,
>
>I got mine here for 111 $ shipped to Canada overnight , I think it was 130$
>total and works fine.
>
>
>Marco Menezes
>Model 2 582 N99KX
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Jim,
I'm really sorry to hear about your cancer problems. I lost my dad to cancer
just two months ago.
Let me know when you feel well enough, I'll take you up for a ride in the
fox.
Best,
Cliff
I will be 70 on the 11th of September and am going through what has
seemed like a very bad year with prostate cancer, treatment, etc. I
am currently receiving both hormone and chemo treatment. I received
the third of four planned chemo infusions this past Tuesday and I
don't think I have slept more than twenty total hours since that
time. While I have been eating good during this week, I have lost
five pounds with my only exercise being to walk from room to
room. Based on the first two sessions, I will be feeling much better
in a few days. Right now I am so weak that sitting at my computer is
an effort. Before you get to feeling too sorry for me, I need to
tell you that my choice of treatment is really working. After only
two sessions, my PSA has fallen from 8.51 to 0.28 and log charts of
the PSA tests indicate that by the end of August it will have fallen
to 0.01--that's pretty near zero. These are not medical charts. My
PhD. chemical engineer son did them for me. He does a lot of
modeling in his research. Of course the charts may be wrong, but
even my last number is fantastic. My doctors performed all known
scans and I even had my previously radiated prostate biopsied, and
no actual cancer was ever found anywhere in mybody. Subjecting
oneself to chemo under these circumstances is not standard
practice. I linked up with a young oncologist who said "Lets try
it." There is absolutely no reason I should not be able to get a new
medical after I complete this, but I suspect from past experience
that they will review this, or let it sit on someone's desk, for
months before they act. This plus my age (70 years) means that
keeping a current medical could be a real pain in the back. If
anyone wants more info on my cancer experience, I am glad to share.
I have talked with the FAA approved inspector who did my original
inspection and he has agreed that if I change my engine and prop
package, establishing a gross weight of 1320 lbs would be in
order. He does not want me to surrender my current registration and
rebuild from a retained portion of the aircraft. Bill Ray who
provided builder assistance for the final part of the original Series
5 project had me show the gross weight at 1650 lbs. for floats,
etc. I think that works to my advantage now because with a small
engine, there is no justification for that weight, if there ever
was. Therefore lowering it is only responsible.
That brings me to the point of this email. Last night while lying in
bed and unable to sleep, I came to the following decisions. I will
bite the bullet and get rid of the cabin adjustable prop and turbo
engine so as to own an airplane that could be flown by a pilot flying
under the light sport designation. I also plan to sell my 38T Hans
Christian sailboat I keep in Hawaii. I do not have time to keep all
of my toys working! I need to simplify my life. To ease my
withdrawal, my son suggested a sailboat simulator. He says all I
need to do is stand in my shower and tear up twenty dollar bills. My
experience is that they would need to be hundred dollar bills. Since
I spend most of my time in Colorado where my Kitfox is hangered, I
will then be able to concentrate on it. He didn't propose a simulator
for owning and flying a Kitfox.
Like the other NSI Turbo owners, I had finally worked out the
kinks. At least those that I knew of. My last problem was with a
Scott tail wheel that shimmied. After three efforts of having my
tail wheel spring re bent, I think that was probably solved and when
we went to test it a few months back, we discovered that one of the
ignitions was not working. With my other above problems, I had no
time to check it out. I do not want to sell the engine without
disclosing everything I know including that NSI is no longer in
business. My original payment to NSI totaled $17,438.70 at the time
of purchase. I think they went up some after that. I have since
added the larger Ellison carburetor and the new stainless steel
exhaust crossover, developed by list members, to which I added a high
temperature coating. All at siginificant cost. The exhauset
crossover fits like a glove and works beautifully. I also have the
digital prop pitch indicator which is working.
I propose to sell the still mounted full package for fifty cents on
the dollar as is. Rounded down that would come to $8,700.00 f.o.b.
Loveland, Colorado, with no additional payment asked for my
upgrades. The engine has actual hours of less than 40 with about 12
of those flying. I want to offer someone in different circumstances
than mine, a high performance experimental engine package at a
deal. It would also recover some of my costs which I can use toward
buying an engine appropriate for a light sport aircraft.
Beyond this I have the Rocky Mountain Instruments engine and flight
monitoring instruments which I will offer at forty cents on the
dollar of the purchase prices. I plan to make every thing very
simple and basic.
Feel free to discus the above including my asking prices. I am sure
both I and any prospective buyers would welcome this.
Jim Crowder
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| Subject: | Re: Low Fuel Warning |
Gary, You will find one by going to www.murlewilliamsaviation.com in his online catalog for $95.00 US, I am thinking of ordering one my self, let me know if you find anything better, Don
Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario
M4/1200 Speedster-912UL
----- Original Message ----
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:25:41 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Sorry to rehash old subjects but I know that a lot of the Kitfoxes with wing
tanks only use a low fuel warning device mounted on the small header tank.
Can I get info/ pricing and contact for this device.
Regards
Gary Algate
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
All,
OK. Now I'm getting desperate. My insurance requires one hour's
dual in a Kitfox IV prior to being insured solo in my aircraft. I'm having
no success in SoCal so I'm inquiring anywhere in the continental US. Any
CFI's out there with access to a Kitfox 3, 4, or 5 I might be able to buy
some time in? I've recently refreshed my tailwheel qual in a Decathlon but
recognize I'll need some work to get comfortable in the Kitfox. Thanks in
advance for your help.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
Guy,
How far from AJO are you. I know a CFI that would most likely do it.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy
Buchanan
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:47 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
All,
OK. Now I'm getting desperate. My insurance requires one hour's
dual in a Kitfox IV prior to being insured solo in my aircraft. I'm
having
no success in SoCal so I'm inquiring anywhere in the continental US. Any
CFI's out there with access to a Kitfox 3, 4, or 5 I might be able to
buy
some time in? I've recently refreshed my tailwheel qual in a Decathlon
but
recognize I'll need some work to get comfortable in the Kitfox. Thanks
in
advance for your help.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package have |
not compl
I too have an EA81 and cockpit adjustable Prop. The bad news is I have not
completed building to the point that I have registered the aircraft. It's also
the good news because I too am contemplating building my Model 5 very light
and registering it as an ELSA.
Here's my point: It is my understanding that the light sport plane rules
don't allow an aircraft that has been operated with an adjustable prop to be
"downgraded" to a LSA, even if the prop is replaced with a fixed pitch one. (Do
I
have it right?)
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Guy,Get ahold of John McBean. www.kitfoxaircraft.com/
John is a CFII and would be the go to guy for this. IMHO
Dan B
Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan
All,
OK. Now I'm getting desperate. My insurance requires one hour's
dual in a Kitfox IV prior to being insured solo in my aircraft. I'm having
no success in SoCal so I'm inquiring anywhere in the continental US. Any
CFI's out there with access to a Kitfox 3, 4, or 5 I might be able to buy
some time in? I've recently refreshed my tailwheel qual in a Decathlon but
recognize I'll need some work to get comfortable in the Kitfox. Thanks in
advance for your help.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP Package |
Jim,
I think you're possibly making a decision regarding FAA requiremints with too little
information. I'm a 60 y/o semi-retired physician and have dealt with the
FAA and cancer twice in the last 12 years -cured of both testiculat and prostate
cancer.
The hoops I went thru 12 years ago (1st ca surgery) are gone. All I needed last
year (prostate ca) was a knowledgable AME and I was able to get the approval
3 months after my surgery on the same day I visited the AME. A friend got his
medical approved (cardiac stent) by phone with the FAA with instructions on where
to mail the appropriate medical records.
The FAA has truly streamlined the process, particularly for the more common serious
maladies such as prostate ca where success can be determined by psa levels.
I'd give the FAA a shot before doing something too radical with my 'Fox
Contact me off line if you need more info. Good luck with your treatment program.
Fred
I will be 70 on the 11th of September and am going through what has
seemed like a very bad year with prostate cancer, treatment, etc. I
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh 2006? |
Deke,
I'm working First-Aid at the seaplane base Sat thru Tue (22-25). Hope we can get
together.
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Darin-
I started out learning in the fall of '04 (the 20-one, not the
19-one....I'm old but not that old..: ) ), got 21 hrs under my belt in
Cessna 172's, then stopped lessons due to wanting to work on my
plane...that, and winter was coming on. Nine months later, I took a 2
hour lesson in a 180 taildragger, then no flights for another month,
then took 14 hours in a Sportstar (LSA) at St. Charles (MO) Flight
Center over a week's time. This was an "accelerated Sport Pilot
school". While there, I took, and passed (with an 85%) the Sport Pilot
FAA written exam. Since October of 2005, until just this past February
(4 1/2 months later) no more lessons. In Feb. I started up again, in
172's again, and got another 18 or so hours, then some time in a J-4
taildragger...enough to get the t'dragger endorsement....then in May
started to get lessons in my Kitfox, and was soloed about 18 hours
later....WHEW! Oh, almost forgot...I got another 2.5 hrs in a Citabria
during the t'dragger endorsement.
So you can see, I've really scattered my education all over the
calendar, and the map, and in various planes along the way.
Just for an example of what I've endured over the last 2 years as far
as flight schools are concerned, one of them was a local Community
College, who was known to be struggling to keep the flight school doors
open. Well, I helped keep that place going while they kept me at a slow
pace, doing only 3-tenths to 9-tenths of an hour at a time, twice a
week. Until I got into the program this past Feb., where I got from 1.2
to 1.5 hours at a time, twice a week, things went rather slowly. As
soon as I got the 'fox done, and the hours flown off by three pilots, I
began getting taught in it, and 6 weeks later I'm flying solo. My
instructor is an airline pilot with American Airlines, so he is gone
for several days at a time, thus time with him is limited.
Maybe I'm a slow learner, and at 69 years of age, I'll take that
assessment, but spreading things out the way I did makes for a lot of
rust between lessons. Now that I can fly nearly every day, it is all
coming together for me, and my instructor says I'll be able to take the
checkride within the next month. He has said right along that when he
releases me to take the checkride, there is no doubt that I will have
no problem with that. This guy is intense, takes nothing short of
perfection during all phases of flight, and is a real pain in the ass
sometimes, but I have found no other instructor that keeps after me the
way he does...the others have taken my dollars, and kept their eyes on
the clock..."ok, let's pick it up here next time".....this guy is not
charging me (except that I will owe him a lot of work on his
soon-to-be-started hangar), and says that he feels "a certain
obligation to helping guys like me who do a nice job on their planes,
and I don't want to see them wad them up in a ball". I feel that if
there were more instructors like him, we'd have a lot better batch of
pilots out there.
Sorry to be so long-winded, but the high number of hours that I've
accumulated really needed to be explained...thanks for letting me
review...it's helped me to understand why it's taken so long to solo.
Lynn
Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
On Tuesday, July 11, 2006, at 07:11 PM, darinh wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
>
>
> Lynn Matteson wrote:
>> About 28 hrs solo in the 'fox, and about 108 hrs total dual so far.
>>
>> Weather? You mean like when I took off this morning, got 400 feet up
>> and things went to hell....low clouds....circled the field to gain my
>> composure, then made a very short downwind, base, and final 20 mph too
>> fast, then set it down just like I knew what I was doing. Scared the
>> crap out of me, and taught me a lesson...call the FSS!
>>
>> Lynn
>
>
> Lynn,
>
> Wow, you should have two tickets with those kind of hours!! Why
> haven't you taken your checkride? Just curious...
>
> Darin
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
Thank you Graeme. In order that my future replies do not add too
much to the total Kitfox List volume, I will be replying to most off
line. The list members are really a caring bunch and I know many
will have good wishes to express. I do really appreciate the
thoughts. I will keep everyone informed as to my progress. Although
I am really feeling rocky just now. It will pass in a few more days
as it has after my first two chemo treatments. With this I am 3/4
done with chemo. With my PSA down to 0.28 after the first two, I am
already a big winner. For me, the cancer has never produced a single
pain or physical symptom of any kind. It is only the treatments that
have done that.
I can say this after 11 years of living with prostate cancer and the
treatments have also allowed that, too. So do get checked for PSA
and do get treatment if cancer is found.
Thanks to all of you for thinking about me.
Jim Crowder
At 03:53 PM 7/11/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
>Hi Jim, thanks for sharing your battle with cancer with us. I wish
>you all the best and hope the positive results you are getting
>continue through to your recovery. I had a bad experience that I
>shared with the list members and to be honest it was great to know
>so much support and concern for my well being was there. Please keep
>us informed of your progress.
>
>Kind Regards
>Graeme
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| Subject: | Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP |
I will not be registering it as an ELSA. I will simply own an
experimental aircraft which with its current equipment and owner
established gross weight of 1320 lbs. meet the LSA standard. Many
currently certificated aircraft are not registered as ELSA but can be
flown by pilots who meet the LSA requirements. You are correct in
not being able to change an aircraft into a ELSA. You just do not
need to. You can keep it as an experimental and fly it as an
LSA. It remains a touchy area and the FAA inspector will only change
my gross weight because I will be installing a very different lighter
engine package that certainly in unsuitable for my current 1650 lbs.
It is not completely win/win because I did like my Turbo CAP
package. It is a hard decision. At my age I suspect it entails more
complexity than is wise for me as a low time pilot.
Jim Crowder
At 08:12 PM 7/11/2006, you wrote:
>I too have an EA81 and cockpit adjustable Prop. The bad news is I
>have not completed building to the point that I have registered the
>aircraft. It's also the good news because I too am contemplating
>building my Model 5 very light and registering it as an ELSA.
>
>Here's my point: It is my understanding that the light sport plane
>rules don't allow an aircraft that has been operated with an
>adjustable prop to be "downgraded" to a LSA, even if the prop is
>replaced with a fixed pitch one. (Do I have it right?)
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If you are able to get to Houston, TX you can get some time in a KF Series V
at LaPorte TX. E-mail or call me at 281-480-4461 home if interested.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 05:56 PM 7/11/2006, you wrote:
>How far from AJO are you. I know a CFI that would most likely do it.
Are you talking about Dave Stevenson? I've been trying to get together with
him for the past two weeks with no success. Either there are no planes, or
he's out of town. It may happen, but I'm getting impatient and looking for
alternatives.
Oh yes. I'm about 1/2 hour away from Corona. If you could set me up there
it would be great!
Thanks,
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
Fred,
You may be right today, but if I apply for a new medical and am
turned down, it is all over. Also, If they put special restrictions
or requirements on me, that will also be the game for me from then
on. I am taking a lowest level diuretic to control high blood
pressure. This after I narrowly passed my medical two years ago. My
AME suggested I see my regular MD regarding this. He also told me to
bring a current EKG in if I did take a medication when I next applied
for a pilot's medical. I just don't want to deal with the issue in
the future.
As I expressed previously, a side of me will miss the Turbo CAP, but
it is a bit of complexity for a 70 year old guy.
Jim
At 08:25 PM 7/11/2006, you wrote:
>Jim,
>I think you're possibly making a decision regarding FAA requiremints
>with too little information. I'm a 60 y/o semi-retired physician and
>have dealt with the FAA and cancer twice in the last 12 years -cured
>of both testiculat and prostate cancer.
>The hoops I went thru 12 years ago (1st ca surgery) are gone. All I
>needed last year (prostate ca) was a knowledgable AME and I was able
>to get the approval 3 months after my surgery on the same day I
>visited the AME. A friend got his medical approved (cardiac stent)
>by phone with the FAA with instructions on where to mail the
>appropriate medical records.
>The FAA has truly streamlined the process, particularly for the more
>common serious maladies such as prostate ca where success can be
>determined by psa levels. I'd give the FAA a shot before doing
>something too radical with my 'Fox
>Contact me off line if you need more info. Good luck with your
>treatment program.
>Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
My A model Avid, N117AF is registered ELSA and I regret it. Keep it AB
Experimental and fly it sport. Ron NB Or
I too am contemplating
>>building my Model 5 very light and registering it as an ELSA.
>>
>>Here's my point: It is my understanding that the light sport plane rules
>>don't allow an aircraft that has been operated with an adjustable prop to
>>be "downgraded" to a LSA, even if the prop is replaced with a fixed pitch
>>one. (Do I have it right?)
>
_________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Selling My NSI Subaru EA81-130-Turbo CAP |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
(Note: I am now sending this to the Kitfox list as when sent
directly, it was bounced back to me as as spam. That hurts.)
Thanks for the thoughts and the links. I will keep them for future
use and reference. I sure hope I don't need more treatments.
Jim Crowder
At 04:14 PM 7/11/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JC" <jc@arcom.com.au>
>
>G'day Jim sorry to hear your plight, I just heard a very good
>friend of mine has stomach cancer, she is a registered nurse and I
>have been researching info and came across a very well respected
>Organisation in Melbourne that has had excellent success with all
>types of cancer, here are the contacts info ... just my two bob's
>worth, have a couple of guys putting in Subys into the Aeropups,
>if I get another customer that wants one I will refer them to
>you, regards from John at Aeropup in Oz
>
>The Gawler Foundation
>Profound Healing, Sustainable Wellbeing
>
>Yvonne Waters
>Support Services Officer
>The Gawler Foundation
>55 Rayner Court, Yarra Junction, Victoria 3797
>Ph: (03) 5967 1730 Fax: (03) 5967 1715
>Email: info@gawler.org Web: www.gawler.org
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