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1. 12:48 AM - Re: pitch angle Warp Drive propeller (John Anderson)
2. 01:10 AM - Re: Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor (Michel Verheughe)
3. 01:35 AM - A farce. WAS: A sight you'll never see again (Michel Verheughe)
4. 03:51 AM - (off-topic) Varberg Wheels and Wings (Michel Verheughe)
5. 05:03 AM - Re: Question for the old timers (Jerry Liles)
6. 05:56 AM - Re: A farce. WAS: A sight you'll never see again (Roger McConnell)
7. 07:08 AM - Re: Oshkosh 2006? (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
8. 07:27 AM - Re: (off-topic) Varberg Wheels and Wings (Lowell Fitt)
9. 07:49 AM - Re: Question for the old timers (Dave G.)
10. 08:41 AM - Re: Question for the old timers (Jerry Liles)
11. 09:31 AM - Re: Question for the old timers (Lowell Fitt)
12. 09:33 AM - Re: Question for the old timers (Dave G.)
13. 09:35 AM - Re: (off-topic) Varberg Wheels and Wings (Michel Verheughe)
14. 10:49 AM - Re: Inspections (eccles)
15. 11:00 AM - Re: Question for the old timers (eccles)
16. 11:05 AM - Re: Question for the old timers (Fox5flyer)
17. 12:05 PM - Re: broken push rod suberu ea81 (wingsdown)
18. 02:10 PM - Re: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) (RichWill)
19. 04:11 PM - Re: Watermellon social (Fred Shiple)
20. 04:57 PM - Re: broken push rod suberu ea81 (kirk hull)
21. 05:04 PM - Re: Ignition Module (Paul)
22. 05:46 PM - Re: Watermellon social (Fox5flyer)
23. 06:01 PM - Re: (off-topic) Varberg Wheels and Wings (Mr NELSON GOGUEN)
24. 06:18 PM - Rotax 582 Rotary Valve Oil Tank Vent (Guy Buchanan)
25. 07:02 PM - NEWS FLASH (SLSA) (ELSA) MALCOLM (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
26. 07:46 PM - Re: Rotax 582 Rotary Valve Oil Tank Vent (Larry Martin)
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Friends, I'd like to ask you to change the title when the subject
changes. You are no longer talking about the Rotax 532 now. And, as a
reminder: cut everything that is not relevant to the answer (some
postings are extremely long, keeping what was said several posts
earlier), and add the "do not archive" if you feel your post is not
relevant for a later archive browsing on the title's subject. Thanks.
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | A farce. WAS: A sight you'll never see again |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Jul 16, 2006, at 4:12 AM, Fox5flyer wrote:
> Bummer! I was pretty jazzed about it, but fortunately I didn't pass
> it on.
Yes, Deke and Clem, this was a bit too much. Mars as big as the moon?
If I was the original sender, I would have scale this down because it
was certainly overdone.
But, before that, the scientific nonsense already appeared when it
states: "... can only be certain that Mars has not come this close to
earth in the last 5,000 years."
Since Kepler and Newton, the trajectory of all planets can be very
accurately predicted to an unlimited time in the future and the past.
Next nonsense and the real "killer" of this farce is: "... Mars will
... reach its highest point in the sky at 12:30 a.m."
... hum, 12:30 ... UTC? Where? Will it be at its apogee everywhere on
the earth? Interesting to watch! And ... what when is 12:30 a.m.?
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | (off-topic) Varberg Wheels and Wings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Here are some photos of my week-end:
http://home.online.no/~michel/Varberg/
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the old timers |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
My Avid used the same adhesive and it cured to a quite hard surface when
correctly mixed. It could not be easily dented with a fingernail. If the
adhesive on your set of wings can be easily dented and is somewhat
pliable then I suspect it was not mixed in the correct ratios or the
glue was past its shelf life before it was used. Fortunately in the
wings the structure will develop almost its full strength when properly
assembled with the shrunk on fabric without glue. Dean Wilson, the
original designer, of the Avid said the glue served mainly to keep
things together so it could be covered. As I understand it Kitfox even
went so far as to assemble a glueless wing and test it. None-the-less
improper gluing of the wing would make me a bit concerned about the
workmanship in the rest of the plane.
Jerry Liles
Dave G. wrote:
> I am dissassembling the rear spars from the wings on my IV for
> replacement. The previous owner began repairs and I am undoing some of
> that.
>
> My question surrounds the epoxy used by Denney in 1992. Where I am
> removing the original epoxy it has some "give" to it and surrenders
> quickly to the hot knife arrangement I am using. The newly glued
> surfaces use Hysol and it is hard as a rock and rather more resistant
> to heat.
>
> So, what was the original adhesive? If both are the same Hysol
> adhesive, what is the difference? Cotton flox?
>
> BTW I can now confirm that it takes much longer to disassemble a wing
> (assuming you want to use the ribs over) than it takes to build one.
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| Subject: | A farce. WAS: A sight you'll never see again |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Thanks for straightning me out on this Michel. After I sent this I got to
thinking this was probable a farce.
Roger Mac
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 3:34 AM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Jul 16, 2006, at 4:12 AM, Fox5flyer wrote:
> Bummer! I was pretty jazzed about it, but fortunately I didn't pass
> it on.
Yes, Deke and Clem, this was a bit too much. Mars as big as the moon?
If I was the original sender, I would have scale this down because it
was certainly overdone.
But, before that, the scientific nonsense already appeared when it
states: "... can only be certain that Mars has not come this close to
earth in the last 5,000 years."
Since Kepler and Newton, the trajectory of all planets can be very
accurately predicted to an unlimited time in the future and the past.
Next nonsense and the real "killer" of this farce is: "... Mars will
... reach its highest point in the sky at 12:30 a.m."
... hum, 12:30 ... UTC? Where? Will it be at its apogee everywhere on
the earth? Interesting to watch! And ... what when is 12:30 a.m.?
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh 2006? |
I will be staying at the see plain base selling tee shirts and going to the
UL park to fly the
T bird for the new owner/manufacturer Malcolm
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| Subject: | Re: (off-topic) Varberg Wheels and Wings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Michel,
Thanks for the pictures - great looking tailspring!!
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 3:47 AM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Here are some photos of my week-end:
>
> http://home.online.no/~michel/Varberg/
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the old timers |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 9:00 AM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
>
> My Avid used the same adhesive and it cured to a quite hard surface when
> correctly mixed. It could not be easily dented with a fingernail. If the
> adhesive on your set of wings can be easily dented and is somewhat pliable
> then I suspect it was not mixed in the correct ratios or the glue was past
> its shelf life before it was used. Fortunately in the wings the structure
> will develop almost its full strength when properly assembled with the
> shrunk on fabric without glue. Dean Wilson, the original designer, of the
> Avid said the glue served mainly to keep things together so it could be
> covered. As I understand it Kitfox even went so far as to assemble a
> glueless wing and test it. None-the-less improper gluing of the wing
> would make me a bit concerned about the workmanship in the rest of the
> plane.
>
> Jerry Liles
>
Jerry, I'm not clear what your intent was in this post so it's possible I'm
misunderstanding. This is the second or third absurd suggestion that my
aircraft was poorly constructed. The aircraft was built very well by a
fellow in New Brunswick in the early 90's. The quality of the original
workmanship was evident immediately when I looked at the plane, and the
papers from the build. It accumulated roughly 700 hours until it was blown
over and I am attempting to restore it. I should hope to build it as well as
the original builder.
There are two different adhesives in evidence on this aircraft after an
interim owner started repairs, new adhesive on the outer four ribs and old
on the inner 6. The new adhesive is Hysol 9430 and it is exceptionally hard.
it makes a "klack" sound like hard plastic when you hit it lightly. The
older adhesive can be marked with tools easily, it holds strongly after 15
years but is easily shifted with a hotknife. My question was "what is the
older adhesive". The quality of the bonding of both adhesives is clear when
you consider 700 hours on the hobbs, 15 years of time, a blow-over accident,
fabric stripped, wings trucked without fabric. After that it took me almost
15 hours to remove the tanks and one rear spar (in pieces) and all but one
of the front joints is still holding solidly. That one joint is rib 10 which
is pretty exposed.
If I end up with a badly built wing, it will be no fault of the original
builder. I welcome any advice but it's my workmanship we are attempting to
improve here, not his.
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the old timers |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
Dave,
I beg your pardon. You requested input on the adhesive and I told you
what I knew. Avid and Kitfox used the same adhesive. I know this
because I helped a bit with the assembly of a Kitfox wing while building
my Avid. I told you what my experience was and what I thought. I don't
think my post was insulting to either you or the original builder, nor
were the replies from other list members. I don't have your airplane
here to inspect so I can't comment directly on the workmanship, however,
apparent improper gluing would still make me suspect. It is possible
the original builder used a different epoxy.
Jerry Liles
Dave G. wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 9:00 AM
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
>>
>> My Avid used the same adhesive and it cured to a quite hard surface
>> when correctly mixed. It could not be easily dented with a
>> fingernail. If the adhesive on your set of wings can be easily dented
>> and is somewhat pliable then I suspect it was not mixed in the
>> correct ratios or the glue was past its shelf life before it was
>> used. Fortunately in the wings the structure will develop almost its
>> full strength when properly assembled with the shrunk on fabric
>> without glue. Dean Wilson, the original designer, of the Avid said
>> the glue served mainly to keep things together so it could be
>> covered. As I understand it Kitfox even went so far as to assemble a
>> glueless wing and test it. None-the-less improper gluing of the wing
>> would make me a bit concerned about the workmanship in the rest of
>> the plane.
>>
>> Jerry Liles
>>
>
> Jerry, I'm not clear what your intent was in this post so it's
> possible I'm misunderstanding. This is the second or third absurd
> suggestion that my aircraft was poorly constructed. The aircraft was
> built very well by a fellow in New Brunswick in the early 90's. The
> quality of the original workmanship was evident immediately when I
> looked at the plane, and the papers from the build. It accumulated
> roughly 700 hours until it was blown over and I am attempting to
> restore it. I should hope to build it as well as the original builder.
>
> There are two different adhesives in evidence on this aircraft after
> an interim owner started repairs, new adhesive on the outer four ribs
> and old on the inner 6. The new adhesive is Hysol 9430 and it is
> exceptionally hard. it makes a "klack" sound like hard plastic when
> you hit it lightly. The older adhesive can be marked with tools
> easily, it holds strongly after 15 years but is easily shifted with a
> hotknife. My question was "what is the older adhesive". The quality of
> the bonding of both adhesives is clear when you consider 700 hours on
> the hobbs, 15 years of time, a blow-over accident, fabric stripped,
> wings trucked without fabric. After that it took me almost 15 hours to
> remove the tanks and one rear spar (in pieces) and all but one of the
> front joints is still holding solidly. That one joint is rib 10 which
> is pretty exposed.
>
> If I end up with a badly built wing, it will be no fault of the
> original builder. I welcome any advice but it's my workmanship we are
> attempting to improve here, not his.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the old timers |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
I dare say even the Hysol can be cut with a hot knife. In the Lancair list
there is occasional talk of opening a wing or other structure for corrective
work. The technique as I understand it is to use heat to undo the Hysol
joints and brute force to separate the others.
One characteristic of "structural" epoxies is that they have a bit more
elasticity than the hard lay-up epoxys. This to allow them to move a bit
under load rather than simply crack. This would illustrate the validity of
the structure opening technique - soften the adhesive and use a putty knife
to pry it open then break the hard stuff.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 8:38 AM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
>
> Dave,
>
> I beg your pardon. You requested input on the adhesive and I told you
> what I knew. Avid and Kitfox used the same adhesive. I know this because
> I helped a bit with the assembly of a Kitfox wing while building my Avid.
> I told you what my experience was and what I thought. I don't think my
> post was insulting to either you or the original builder, nor were the
> replies from other list members. I don't have your airplane here to
> inspect so I can't comment directly on the workmanship, however, apparent
> improper gluing would still make me suspect. It is possible the original
> builder used a different epoxy.
> Jerry Liles
>
> Dave G. wrote:
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 9:00 AM
>>
>>
>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
>>>
>>> My Avid used the same adhesive and it cured to a quite hard surface when
>>> correctly mixed. It could not be easily dented with a fingernail. If the
>>> adhesive on your set of wings can be easily dented and is somewhat
>>> pliable then I suspect it was not mixed in the correct ratios or the
>>> glue was past its shelf life before it was used. Fortunately in the
>>> wings the structure will develop almost its full strength when properly
>>> assembled with the shrunk on fabric without glue. Dean Wilson, the
>>> original designer, of the Avid said the glue served mainly to keep
>>> things together so it could be covered. As I understand it Kitfox even
>>> went so far as to assemble a glueless wing and test it. None-the-less
>>> improper gluing of the wing would make me a bit concerned about the
>>> workmanship in the rest of the plane.
>>>
>>> Jerry Liles
>>>
>>
>> Jerry, I'm not clear what your intent was in this post so it's possible
>> I'm misunderstanding. This is the second or third absurd suggestion that
>> my aircraft was poorly constructed. The aircraft was built very well by a
>> fellow in New Brunswick in the early 90's. The quality of the original
>> workmanship was evident immediately when I looked at the plane, and the
>> papers from the build. It accumulated roughly 700 hours until it was
>> blown over and I am attempting to restore it. I should hope to build it
>> as well as the original builder.
>>
>> There are two different adhesives in evidence on this aircraft after an
>> interim owner started repairs, new adhesive on the outer four ribs and
>> old on the inner 6. The new adhesive is Hysol 9430 and it is
>> exceptionally hard. it makes a "klack" sound like hard plastic when you
>> hit it lightly. The older adhesive can be marked with tools easily, it
>> holds strongly after 15 years but is easily shifted with a hotknife. My
>> question was "what is the older adhesive". The quality of the bonding of
>> both adhesives is clear when you consider 700 hours on the hobbs, 15
>> years of time, a blow-over accident, fabric stripped, wings trucked
>> without fabric. After that it took me almost 15 hours to remove the tanks
>> and one rear spar (in pieces) and all but one of the front joints is
>> still holding solidly. That one joint is rib 10 which is pretty exposed.
>>
>> If I end up with a badly built wing, it will be no fault of the original
>> builder. I welcome any advice but it's my workmanship we are attempting
>> to improve here, not his.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the old timers |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 12:38 PM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
>
> Dave,
>
> I beg your pardon. You requested input on the adhesive and I told you
> what I knew.
No pardon nescessary and I wasn't insulted. I was informed by another lister
that the original adhesive is likely 3M 2216 which he described as slightly
flexible and removable with heat, so that seems likely.
I will confess to being a little short of patience with the number of
condemnations of the entire aircraft based on questions I've asked. I do
welcome input but as you say, you cannot evaluate the structure from your
end. General concerns about workmanship of the entire aircraft are probably
best left to the owner and the DAR.
I had asked a while back about an odd repair that I doubted, (spliced spar)
without providing any background. I recieved no less than four emails, all
well meaning I'm sure saying that the entire structure was doubtful on the
basis of this one untried repair when all I needed to hear was that it was a
bad idea and that it should be replaced.
In any case, I do welcome your reply and it is possible that we
misunderstand each other. There are many questions I might ask badly. I am
fascinated by the idea of the glueless wing, especially after the amount of
time the adhesive is costing me, but I've already got these two cans of
Hysol...
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| Subject: | Re: (off-topic) Varberg Wheels and Wings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Jul 16, 2006, at 4:26 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
> Thanks for the pictures - great looking tailspring!!
... and the tailspring carries your name! Thanks to you, Lowell.
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "eccles" <eccles@chartermi.net>
Thanks everyone I am now clear on the subject,, there was a little doubt but
with all of your help is see that if you are NOT the builder an A&P can do
the " conditional Inspection " and there is no real need for a person with
an Inspection Authorization,, : ) thanks again
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of RAY Gignac
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 10:10 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RAY Gignac" <kitfoxpilot@msn.com>
Your right, if your not the builder you can do the work yourself and then
have an A&P inspect then sign off! he or she does not have to have an"I".
Now, if your not up to speed on your fox, then you shouold have someone with
knowledge with the fox to help you.
Ray
>From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@sbcglobal.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Inspections
>Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 21:08:35 -0500
>
>the annual part is correct. As an A&P I have done some annuals on
>homebuilts for new owners. As far a doing the rest of the maintenance I
>believe that also requires an A&P.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Smith
> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 8:24 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Inspections
>
>
> Sorry, forgot the following. I believe that if you have the Repairmans
>Certificate (or whatever it is called) for this particular aircraft then
>you
>can do the Annual yourself. If you bought the aircraft you can do all of
>the maintenance but at least an A&P has to do the annual. Brian Smith.
>
> If I am incorrect in this someone please correct me. Hope this helps.
>
>
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>--
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of eccles
> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:39 PM
> To: Kitfox-List@Matronics. Com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Inspections
>
>
> Hey Boys and Girls
> who can i get to annual my Kitfox? A&P or do I need a IA?
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| Subject: | Question for the old timers |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "eccles" <eccles@chartermi.net>
Hi all
on my series V the bonding epoxy was 3M 2216 A/B and was mixed 2/3 per
volume if that helps any.
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 11:34 AM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 12:38 PM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
>
> Dave,
>
> I beg your pardon. You requested input on the adhesive and I told you
> what I knew.
No pardon nescessary and I wasn't insulted. I was informed by another lister
that the original adhesive is likely 3M 2216 which he described as slightly
flexible and removable with heat, so that seems likely.
I will confess to being a little short of patience with the number of
condemnations of the entire aircraft based on questions I've asked. I do
welcome input but as you say, you cannot evaluate the structure from your
end. General concerns about workmanship of the entire aircraft are probably
best left to the owner and the DAR.
I had asked a while back about an odd repair that I doubted, (spliced spar)
without providing any background. I recieved no less than four emails, all
well meaning I'm sure saying that the entire structure was doubtful on the
basis of this one untried repair when all I needed to hear was that it was a
bad idea and that it should be replaced.
In any case, I do welcome your reply and it is possible that we
misunderstand each other. There are many questions I might ask badly. I am
fascinated by the idea of the glueless wing, especially after the amount of
time the adhesive is costing me, but I've already got these two cans of
Hysol...
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the old timers |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Very tactful reply Dave. I agree that the replies to your other posts were
probably well meaning, but with emails it's difficult to inject tone and
often, with poor wording, they can be taken as being critical. I try to
allow my posts to simmer for a bit then reread them before hitting the send
button, however even that isn't always successful. Generally, at the very
least I catch some atrocious spelling and grammar errors, but I digress...
As for the adhesives, both of the 3M 2216 or Hysol 9430 are good and will do
the job. Some folks just think the Hysol is easier to work with.
Deke
ps: Still haven't received any details on the watermellon social. Also,
anybody know where we can get a map to the Acey Ducey lounge?
> No pardon nescessary and I wasn't insulted. I was informed by another
lister
> that the original adhesive is likely 3M 2216 which he described as
slightly
> flexible and removable with heat, so that seems likely.
>
> I will confess to being a little short of patience with the number of
> condemnations of the entire aircraft based on questions I've asked. I do
> welcome input but as you say, you cannot evaluate the structure from your
> end. General concerns about workmanship of the entire aircraft are
probably
> best left to the owner and the DAR.
>
> I had asked a while back about an odd repair that I doubted, (spliced
spar)
> without providing any background. I recieved no less than four emails, all
> well meaning I'm sure saying that the entire structure was doubtful on the
> basis of this one untried repair when all I needed to hear was that it was
a
> bad idea and that it should be replaced.
>
> In any case, I do welcome your reply and it is possible that we
> misunderstand each other. There are many questions I might ask badly. I am
> fascinated by the idea of the glueless wing, especially after the amount
of
> time the adhesive is costing me, but I've already got these two cans of
> Hysol...
>
>
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| Subject: | broken push rod suberu ea81 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
Might give Stratus a call, do believe they replaced the stock push rods.
Many good points made reference the break.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kirk hull
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:28 PM
this pic is of a factory sub part in a Stratus conversion with solid
lifters
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John
Anderson
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:48 AM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
<janderson412@hotmail.com>
Was this/these failures with hydraulic or solid lifters. All the
original turbo engines came out with hyd, any faulures in with these?
John A.
Kirk,
Michael Harter had an NSI EA81 in his Model IV several years back. On
takeoff one time he lost power (not all) throttled back and returned to
the airport. He discovered several (not sure how many) broken push
rods. He replaced then with parts from NSI.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
kirk hull wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@sbcglobal.net>
I had an in flight failure last week of N205AK's Suberu ea81. She was
landed with no problems and everyone is ok. The push rod on the # 4
cylinder ( Front right)snaped. Attached is a picture of the part . it
made a clean break almost dead center on the rod completely in to. With
only 20 hrs on the engine and only 5 in flight this should not have
happened. Has anyone else seen this before and why did it happen? P.S.
it is a 100HP Stratus conversion.
_________________________________________________________________
Shop 'til you drop at XtraMSN Shopping
http://shopping.xtramsn.co.nz/home/
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| Subject: | Re: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RichWill" <rwill1@adelphia.net>
Thanks Mike,
I agree...and btw, nice pics on your frapper site... I need to do some of Maine..we
have smaller hills...but way more trees!!!
Rich
--------
Semper Fi
15 ITT
G2 HqCo HqBn
1st MarDiv
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=47673#47673
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| Subject: | Re: Watermellon social |
saturday 29 jul at the seaplane base. begins 5:30p and last bus returns at 9:00p.
you'll need to get tickets when you get to oshkosh . i think the 500 tickets
sold out early last year.
fred
Can anybody fill us in?
Deke
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| Subject: | broken push rod suberu ea81 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@sbcglobal.net>
already talked with stratus and they said they use the stock parts. I
replaced it with a stock part from the auto parts store. I was just
wandering what the NSI parts look like and if they are stronger.
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of wingsdown
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 2:01 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
Might give Stratus a call, do believe they replaced the stock push rods.
Many good points made reference the break.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kirk hull
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:28 PM
this pic is of a factory sub part in a Stratus conversion with solid
lifters
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John
Anderson
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:48 AM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
<janderson412@hotmail.com>
Was this/these failures with hydraulic or solid lifters. All the
original turbo engines came out with hyd, any faulures in with these?
John A.
Kirk,
Michael Harter had an NSI EA81 in his Model IV several years back. On
takeoff one time he lost power (not all) throttled back and returned to
the airport. He discovered several (not sure how many) broken push
rods. He replaced then with parts from NSI.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
kirk hull wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@sbcglobal.net>
I had an in flight failure last week of N205AK's Suberu ea81. She was
landed with no problems and everyone is ok. The push rod on the # 4
cylinder ( Front right)snaped. Attached is a picture of the part . it
made a clean break almost dead center on the rod completely in to. With
only 20 hrs on the engine and only 5 in flight this should not have
happened. Has anyone else seen this before and why did it happen? P.S.
it is a 100HP Stratus conversion.
_________________________________________________________________
Shop 'til you drop at XtraMSN Shopping
http://shopping.xtramsn.co.nz/home/
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| Subject: | Re: Ignition Module |
I also need some parts for my ignition system. One of the capacitors
broke at the end. Also looking for ignition wires .
Thanks Paul N102DG
----- Original Message -----
From: Rexster
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:43 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Ignition Module
Jimmy,
Give me a call. I may have some answers for you. I had two go bad
and did a bit of research on the options. I have the old style too. You
can reach me at 586 918-3838.
Rex Phelps in Michigan
-- "Marwynne" <marwynne@verizon.net> wrote:
Boy Jimmy you are having all kinds of bad luck...... :-( I hope you
are able to find one.
Marwynne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jimmie
Blackwell
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:05 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Ignition Module
I have an early Model IV Speedster with an older 912UL engine and am
having a heck of a time finding an ignition module. My 912 has the
ignition system in a metal noise suppression box behind the firewall.
Anyway, one of my two ignition modules is out and Rotax no longer makes
this module. Lockwood and CPS tells me that the newer modules will not
work in my igntion system and their only solution is to spend $3,500 on
a new ignition system. Naturally, I rather not spend that much, but may
not have any other choice unless one of you folks can help.
Was hoping that one of you might have one of these old type ignition
systems sitting around and would sell me a module out of it. At this
point I am willing to pay a premium price. I gotta get back in the air.
Would deeply appreciate any assistance.
Jimmie
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| Subject: | Re: Watermellon social |
Thanks Fred
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Shiple
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Watermellon social
saturday 29 jul at the seaplane base. begins 5:30p and last bus
returns at 9:00p. you'll need to get tickets when you get to oshkosh . i
think the 500 tickets sold out early last year.
fred
Can anybody fill us in?
Deke
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| Subject: | Re: (off-topic) Varberg Wheels and Wings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mr NELSON GOGUEN" <mino2@verizon.net>
Michel,
You take great photos. Thanks for sharing them with the group. As I look
at the photo of your fox I had the thought that, if the corners of that
front intake were turned up (a smile) the plane would look as happy as you
are, when you fly it.
Fly Safe,
Nelson
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 6:47 AM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Here are some photos of my week-end:
>
> http://home.online.no/~michel/Varberg/
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Rotax 582 Rotary Valve Oil Tank Vent |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
All,
I dropped my radiator 1" without the cowl and went on a taxi-thon
today. OAT's were about 93 and I held steady at about 180F water
temperature. It looks like I'm ready to fly from a cooling standpoint.
However I noticed oil dripping from the firewall and discovered that the
rotary valve reservoir was pushing oil out one of the tube connections. I
could find nothing wrong, except that it appears the rotary valve reservoir
is not vented to atmosphere. There's a hole in the top of the cap, but a
solid rubber washer prevents any venting. (Verified via taste-test with the
reservoir removed.) I suppose it's possible it's a closed system, but I'd
think it should be vented. True? If so, how is it vented? Should the washer
have a hole. (Ideally it would have a miniature filter, to prevent dirt
ingress.)
Thanks,
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | NEWS FLASH (SLSA) (ELSA) MALCOLM |
--- sportaviation@kc.rr.com <sportaviation@kc.rr.com>
wrote:
> NEWS FLASH!
> FAA RELEASES ORDER 8130.2F CHANGE 2
>
> During the second week in July, FAA released Change
2 to FAA Order 8130.2F,
> which specifies the requirements and procedures for
DARs and FAA inspectors
> to use when certificating aircraft, including
experimental light-sport
> (ELSA) and special light-sport (SLSA). This
revision made some very
> beneficial changes for ELSA operating limitations
and other significant
> changes for SLSA.
>
> With the new revision, which is now effective, ELSAs
will have additional
> flight privileges previously available only to
experimental amateur-built
> (EAB) aircraft, including flight over densely
populated areas, in congested
> areas, and over open-air assemblies of persons.
Additionally, night and IFR
> flight will be allowed if the aircraft is properly
equipped.
>
> If you own an ELSA certificated before last week,
you would be well advised
> to request a revision to your operating limitations
and airworthiness
> certificate. Just contact the FAA inspector or DAR
who certificated your
> aircraft; in all likelihood, he/she will be able to
issue the revisions
> without having to make another inspection visit.
>
> The biggest change for SLSA is that DARs are now
allowed to issue the
> production flight test permit by telegraphic means
or FAX. Thus, the DAR
> will have to make only one visit to the
manufacturer's, agent's, or dealer's
> facility instead of two that were often required
with the previous revision.
>
> For a summary of all the changes contained in the
new Order, please visit
> this page of our website. If you have any
questions, we also welcome phone
> calls and emails.
>
> Mike
>
> G. Michael Huffman
> Sport Aviation Specialties
> 2707 NW Cedar Brook
> Lee's Summit, MO 64081
> 816-838-6235
> sportaviation@kc.rr.com
> www.sportaviationspecialties.com
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 582 Rotary Valve Oil Tank Vent |
Guy,
I found the same with mine. By experimenting, I found that you can
not fully close the cap. There should be a tab that you can lockwire
the cap to prevent it from coming off. I had tried to put a small hole
in the rubber gasket, which allowed the oil to come out. Ultimately,
the "almost" tight cap provided gravity feed without the loss of oil.
You can test yours by loosening the vent plug on the opposite side of
the block. Oil should flow out. You may have to blow into the
reservoir bottle initially to thoroughly bleed the system. After it
flows nicely, tighten the reservoir cap progressively until the flow
slows. The cap should not be tighten beyond this point. Then tighten
the vent plug up.
Larry
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