Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Thu 07/20/06


Total Messages Posted: 17



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:38 AM - Re: broken push rod. (John Anderson)
     2. 07:54 AM - vibration and noise (Jeff Scovill)
     3. 08:32 AM - Re: Speaking of crashes... (kitfoxmike)
     4. 08:57 AM - Re: broken push rod. (kirk hull)
     5. 09:41 AM - Ontario Flyin this weekend .  (Dave)
     6. 10:24 AM - Re: Kitfox Meeting in Oshkosh (Lynn Matteson)
     7. 11:29 AM - Re: Kitfox Meeting in Oshkosh (Fox5flyer)
     8. 01:38 PM - Angle of Attack (Denise and Rocky Whitman)
     9. 02:28 PM - Re: Angle of Attack (Barry West)
    10. 03:32 PM - Re: Kitfox Meeting in Oshkosh (Lynn Matteson)
    11. 03:59 PM - Re: Angle of Attack (wingsdown)
    12. 04:28 PM - Re: Angle of Attack (Aerobatics@aol.com)
    13. 04:57 PM - Re: Kitfox Meeting in Oshkosh (Fox5flyer)
    14. 05:42 PM - Re: Kitfox Meeting in Oshkosh (Lynn Matteson)
    15. 06:53 PM - Re: Kitfox Meeting in Oshkosh (mdps_mc@swoca.net)
    16. 08:38 PM - Polytone over old polytone with carnauba (icaza francisco)
    17. 09:09 PM - Re: vibration and noise (A Smith)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:38:46 AM PST US
    From: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
    Subject: broken push rod.
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    Time: 07:54:13 AM PST US
    From: "Jeff Scovill" <cliffsofinsanity1@comcast.net>
    Subject: vibration and noise
    To All I have a model 1 with 503, Hegar cog belt drive. There is a good vibration at 4000 to 5500 rpm. I have changed the bearings in the propeller pulley, put a new belt on it. Checked the pitch on the propeller and checked the motor mounts. All seems to be ok. CHT and exhaust temps are in the normal range. The noise sounds like a screeching sound. And only occurs after leaving the ground and doesn't stop till back on the ground again.And does it all rpms while in the air. Any ideas would be helpful. Thanks Jeff Scovill


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    Time: 08:32:31 AM PST US
    From: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Speaking of crashes...
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com> The reply about all the airplanes on the ground more than in the air is right on. I went to an outing last night for the WPA(washington pilots association) and found that most pilots I talked to have only flown 4 times this year or less. I couldn't resist the brag of 140 flights this year so far. They just looked at me with envy. I told them that I was feeling the effects of not flying yesterday because the outing was bitting into my flying time. I also mentioned that when I fly for an hour I use about 4 gallons of fuel, now that really got there attention. Flying certified airplanes is very expensive and the joy is ripped right out because face it, those tin cans are just not fun to fly, besides most are flown over 4000 agl. So what do we get in return, very rusty pilots that go up to justify having a pilots license in the first place. You always know that they are the rusty ones by the radio talk and the airline approaches. I do my best to give way to these pilots. -------- kitfoxmike kitfox4 1200 912ul speedster http://www.frappr.com/kitfoxmike rv7 wingkit reserved 287RV Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=48813#48813


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    Time: 08:57:51 AM PST US
    From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: broken push rod.
    It was a factory part. The engineer ( who does contract work for GM ) said that sometimes a part will miss a step in the manufacturing process and he suspects that is what happened here. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Anderson Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:36 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: broken push rod. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" Have you ascertained if it is a std Subaru part or after market? Not like Sub to get it wrong.. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Time: 09:41:23 AM PST US
    From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Ontario Flyin this weekend .
    Got an email on this one for this weekend. July 22 Arthur ON (rain date July 23) Kitchener Waterloo RAA chapter fly-in and barbecue at the farm of Mac and Pat McCulloch. ALL WELCOME! Meal served at 1:00 pm. Phone 519 848 3392 or cell 519 831 0967. Strip Coordinates North 43 48 50 West 80 26 29. The strip goes North / South. Length 2000ft Elevation 1550ft.Radio frequency 123-4 . All circuits at 1000 ft agl . For more information go to the events section at www.kwraa.net Might see you there. Dave


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    Time: 10:24:15 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox Meeting in Oshkosh
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> I've been told of a camp closer to the flight line, so I'm gonna try that one this year....if it doesn't work out, I'll go to Scholler. I'm planning on starting out early Sunday morning, but as our friend Duane might point out, that may turn into a late Saturday departure. (I sometimes get too antsy waiting for the "green flag" and need to get some distance between me and home.) Lynn On Wednesday, July 19, 2006, at 05:43 PM, Fox5flyer wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" > <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > Great Lynn. You staying at camp scholler? > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:02 PM > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> >> >> I hope to go to that, Deke. I'll be parking my MH somewhere for the >> duration, and will call you if I'm still there on Wed. >> >> Lynn >> cell 517 945 4381 >> On Tuesday, July 18, 2006, at 08:56 AM, Fox5flyer wrote: >> >>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" >>> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> >>> >>> Thanks Ed. >>> OK folks. The link below is a map of where the Acee-Duecee is >>> located. I'm >>> proposing we meet up on Wednesday evening about 6pm. I plan to go >>> anyway >>> and hopefully some of you will be able show up so I can meet you >>> great >>> people. It's an excellent place for dinner too. >>> For those who are on foot, I can load a few into my pickup. I can >>> fit >>> three >>> in the back seat and whatever I can get away with in the bed. Just a >>> simple >>> matter of a reasonable and convenient meeting place for the pick-up. >>> Perhaps by the shuttle stop in the main parking area with a post-it >>> note >>> saying KITFOX on your forehead? Anybody have a suggestion? >>> Print out the map on the link below. >>> If you want me to pick you up, my cell is 989 736 8264. >>> Hope to see you there! >>> Deke >>> >>> http://www.nightlifenightclubs.com/night-clubs/listing/435261/us/wi/ >>> oshkosh/ >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:17 PM >>> >>> >>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Ed Veneck <edveneck@yahoo.com> >>>> >>>> You have the spelling wrong. >>>> It's the Acee-Deucee Lounge >>>> 1329 Oregon St. >>>> 920-235-6050 >>>> It is a cool place, and everyone that attends Oshkosh >>>> should go there at least once. >>>> Ed Veneck >>>> >>>> --- Peter Graichen <n10pg@neo.rr.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" >>>>> <n10pg@neo.rr.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello Fellow Kitfox Builders/Drivers: >>>>> >>>>> It has been suggested by some that we get together >>>>> at Acey Ducey some >>>>> evening during Airventure 2006. However nobody seems >>>>> to know where >>>>> Acey-Ducey is located. >>>>> Oshkosh information has no idea. There is no >>>>> telephone number listed for >>>>> them. I have used every search engine I could think >>>>> of without success. >>>>> Today I called EAA and the lady in membership >>>>> services said that Acey-Ducey >>>>> is located on Oregon Street and 14th Street. >>>>> Can anybody confirm that location? If not, may I >>>>> suggest that we meet on >>>>> Tuesday 25 July at 19:30 local time at Kelly's. >>>>> Kelly's is located at the >>>>> University at the corner of Wisconsin & High Street. >>>>> Peter Graichen >>>>> http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> browse >>>>> Subscriptions page, >>>>> FAQ, >>>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Admin. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 11:29:40 AM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox Meeting in Oshkosh
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> I wouldn't count on getting a decent spot at any of those flightline camps at this late date Lynn. I've talked to people who get in "weeks" ahead of time. Might get lucky though. If you take a bicycle, anyplace in camp Scholler is close. Deke do not archive ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:24 PM > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> > > I've been told of a camp closer to the flight line, so I'm gonna try > that one this year....if it doesn't work out, I'll go to Scholler. I'm > planning on starting out early Sunday morning, but as our friend Duane > might point out, that may turn into a late Saturday departure. (I > sometimes get too antsy waiting for the "green flag" and need to get > some distance between me and home.) > > Lynn > On Wednesday, July 19, 2006, at 05:43 PM, Fox5flyer wrote: > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" > > <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > > > Great Lynn. You staying at camp scholler? > > do not archive > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:02 PM > > > > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> > >> > >> I hope to go to that, Deke. I'll be parking my MH somewhere for the > >> duration, and will call you if I'm still there on Wed. > >> > >> Lynn > >> cell 517 945 4381 > >> On Tuesday, July 18, 2006, at 08:56 AM, Fox5flyer wrote: > >> > >>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" > >>> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > >>> > >>> Thanks Ed. > >>> OK folks. The link below is a map of where the Acee-Duecee is > >>> located. I'm > >>> proposing we meet up on Wednesday evening about 6pm. I plan to go > >>> anyway > >>> and hopefully some of you will be able show up so I can meet you > >>> great > >>> people. It's an excellent place for dinner too. > >>> For those who are on foot, I can load a few into my pickup. I can > >>> fit > >>> three > >>> in the back seat and whatever I can get away with in the bed. Just a > >>> simple > >>> matter of a reasonable and convenient meeting place for the pick-up. > >>> Perhaps by the shuttle stop in the main parking area with a post-it > >>> note > >>> saying KITFOX on your forehead? Anybody have a suggestion? > >>> Print out the map on the link below. > >>> If you want me to pick you up, my cell is 989 736 8264. > >>> Hope to see you there! > >>> Deke > >>> > >>> http://www.nightlifenightclubs.com/night-clubs/listing/435261/us/wi/ > >>> oshkosh/ > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:17 PM > >>> > >>> > >>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Ed Veneck <edveneck@yahoo.com> > >>>> > >>>> You have the spelling wrong. > >>>> It's the Acee-Deucee Lounge > >>>> 1329 Oregon St. > >>>> 920-235-6050 > >>>> It is a cool place, and everyone that attends Oshkosh > >>>> should go there at least once. > >>>> Ed Veneck > >>>> > >>>> --- Peter Graichen <n10pg@neo.rr.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" > >>>>> <n10pg@neo.rr.com> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Hello Fellow Kitfox Builders/Drivers: > >>>>> > >>>>> It has been suggested by some that we get together > >>>>> at Acey Ducey some > >>>>> evening during Airventure 2006. However nobody seems > >>>>> to know where > >>>>> Acey-Ducey is located. > >>>>> Oshkosh information has no idea. There is no > >>>>> telephone number listed for > >>>>> them. I have used every search engine I could think > >>>>> of without success. > >>>>> Today I called EAA and the lady in membership > >>>>> services said that Acey-Ducey > >>>>> is located on Oregon Street and 14th Street. > >>>>> Can anybody confirm that location? If not, may I > >>>>> suggest that we meet on > >>>>> Tuesday 25 July at 19:30 local time at Kelly's. > >>>>> Kelly's is located at the > >>>>> University at the corner of Wisconsin & High Street. > >>>>> Peter Graichen > >>>>> http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> browse > >>>>> Subscriptions page, > >>>>> FAQ, > >>>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Admin. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> __________________________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:38:14 PM PST US
    From: "Denise and Rocky Whitman" <rocky1@moment.net>
    Subject: Angle of Attack
    Does anyone know the approximate angle of attack for a Series 7 at level cruise, 912s. This is for the purpose of mounting a remote compass. Thanks Rocky Whitman


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    Time: 02:28:31 PM PST US
    From: "Barry West" <barry@pgtc.com>
    Subject: Re: Angle of Attack
    Rocky It is a function of weight distribution among other things, but basically it is a variable. You should be able to assume that it is level with the bottom of the door cut out. I don't know much about remote compasses but it must be able to handle some variation in attitude. It should be accurate when the tail wheel is on the ground. Barry West To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Angle of Attack Does anyone know the approximate angle of attack for a Series 7 at level cruise, 912s. This is for the purpose of mounting a remote compass. Thanks Rocky Whitman


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    Time: 03:32:27 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox Meeting in Oshkosh
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Right you are, Deke....yeah, almost forgot about the bike thing. In fact the bike that I have was purchased right up there near OSH, while Duane and I were out cruising around, charging up the MH batteries....say, I'm thinking of taking the ferry across...any words of wisdom? I took it from Wis. to MIch. back in about '87, so I'm familiar with the drill, but that was with a car, not a small motorhome. Lynn do not archive On Thursday, July 20, 2006, at 02:26 PM, Fox5flyer wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" > <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > I wouldn't count on getting a decent spot at any of those flightline > camps > at this late date Lynn. I've talked to people who get in "weeks" > ahead of > time. Might get lucky though. If you take a bicycle, anyplace in camp > Scholler is close. > Deke > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:24 PM


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    Time: 03:59:29 PM PST US
    From: "wingsdown" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
    Subject: Angle of Attack
    Your AOA is going to vary with speed and load. Not trying to be smart, just a thought. Rick -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry West Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:29 PM Rocky It is a function of weight distribution among other things, but basically it is a variable. You should be able to assume that it is level with the bottom of the door cut out. I don't know much about remote compasses but it must be able to handle some variation in attitude. It should be accurate when the tail wheel is on the ground. Barry West Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 3:34 PM Does anyone know the approximate angle of attack for a Series 7 at level cruise, 912s. This is for the purpose of mounting a remote compass. Thanks Rocky Whitman


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    Time: 04:28:37 PM PST US
    From: Aerobatics@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Angle of Attack
    In a message dated 7/20/2006 6:01:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, wingsdown@comcast.net writes: Your AOA is going to vary with speed and load. Not trying to be smart, just a thought. Rick Here is an APROX that should be close....? from the center of the leading edge to trailing edge will be your zero, then at about 3 or 4 degrees, you should be darn close.... Dave


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    Time: 04:57:09 PM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox Meeting in Oshkosh
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> Can't help you on that one Lynn. I know some people take the ferry, but I don't know from where or how much or where it goes. I would think when you factor in the waiting time and cost of the ferry, you might be just as well off to drive around the bottom of Lake Michigan and right on up to Oshkosh. Just a thought. I just Googled "Lake Michigan Ferry" and got a ton of hits. You should be able to find out what you need there. Deke do not archive > > Right you are, Deke....yeah, almost forgot about the bike thing. In > fact the bike that I have was purchased right up there near OSH, while > Duane and I were out cruising around, charging up the MH > batteries....say, I'm thinking of taking the ferry across...any words > of wisdom? I took it from Wis. to MIch. back in about '87, so I'm > familiar with the drill, but that was with a car, not a small motorhome. > > Lynn > do not archive > On Thursday, July 20, 2006, at 02:26 PM, Fox5flyer wrote: > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" > > <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > > > I wouldn't count on getting a decent spot at any of those flightline > > camps > > at this late date Lynn. I've talked to people who get in "weeks" > > ahead of > > time. Might get lucky though. If you take a bicycle, anyplace in camp > > Scholler is close. > > Deke > > do not archive > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:24 PM > >


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    Time: 05:42:44 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox Meeting in Oshkosh
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> I just went to the S.S. Badger site (Ludington, MI to Manitowoc, WI...four hours) and found out that it is a ~$280 round-trip for me and my MH...not cheap, but factor in that "orange cone" drive through Chicago, and it might be money well spent....am I getting old when I start thinking about saving wear and tear on the old bod/brain by spending money? Must be....gonna wait until I pick up the Trip-ticks at AAA tomorrow, then flip a coin. Lynn do not archive On Thursday, July 20, 2006, at 07:55 PM, Fox5flyer wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" > <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > Can't help you on that one Lynn. I know some people take the ferry, > but I > don't know from where or how much or where it goes. I would think > when you > factor in the waiting time and cost of the ferry, you might be just as > well > off to drive around the bottom of Lake Michigan and right on up to > Oshkosh. > Just a thought. > I just Googled "Lake Michigan Ferry" and got a ton of hits. You > should be > able to find out what you need there. > Deke > do not archive


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    Time: 06:53:10 PM PST US
    From: mdps_mc@swoca.net
    Subject: Re: Kitfox Meeting in Oshkosh
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: mdps_mc@swoca.net I made this trip a few years back in a car and it was a nice trip and a change of pace. Plus I didn't haver to deal with Chiago. I don't remember it being this expensive. Mike Chaney Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device -----Original Message----- To:kitfox-list@matronics.com --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> I just went to the S.S. Badger site (Ludington, MI to Manitowoc, WI...four hours) and found out that it is a ~$280 round-trip for me and my MH...not cheap, but factor in that "orange cone" drive through Chicago, and it might be money well spent....am I getting old when I start thinking about saving wear and tear on the old bod/brain by spending money? Must be....gonna wait until I pick up the Trip-ticks at AAA tomorrow, then flip a coin. Lynn do not archive On Thursday, July 20, 2006, at 07:55 PM, Fox5flyer wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" > <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > Can't help you on that one Lynn. I know some people take the ferry, > but I > don't know from where or how much or where it goes. I would think > when you > factor in the waiting time and cost of the ferry, you might be just as > well > off to drive around the bottom of Lake Michigan and right on up to > Oshkosh. > Just a thought. > I just Googled "Lake Michigan Ferry" and got a ton of hits. You > should be > able to find out what you need there. > Deke > do not archive ################################################################################ This message has been scanned for Viruses and cleared by MailMarshal at SWOCA. ################################################################################


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    Time: 08:38:58 PM PST US
    From: icaza francisco <franicaza@yahoo.com.mx>
    Subject: Polytone over old polytone with carnauba
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: icaza francisco <franicaza@yahoo.com.mx> I want to paint some orange lines with polytone over my wings already painted with the same material. For a pair of years I have used carnauba to keep surfaces protected. Does anyone know how I could clean the surface to remove carnauba before painting it? I appreciate, Francisco Icaza. ___________________________________________________________ La mejor conexin a Internet y <b >2GB</b> extra a tu correo por $100 al mes. http://net.yahoo.com.mx


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    Time: 09:09:26 PM PST US
    From: "A Smith" <kitfox@ida.net>
    Subject: Re: vibration and noise
    Check your blade tracking??? Also do not just limit it to an engine problem. Albert Smith 5 TD NSI T Cap




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