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1. 12:58 AM - Ham. WAS: Question to the list (Michel Verheughe)
2. 05:36 AM - Re: Question to the list (Jimmie Blackwell)
3. 06:07 AM - Re: First flight 541KF (Fox5flyer)
4. 06:08 AM - Re: Question to the list (Andrew Matthaey)
5. 06:28 AM - Re: Question to the list (Marwynne Kuhn)
6. 06:29 AM - Re: Polytone over old polytone with carnauba. New question (flier)
7. 06:32 AM - Broken Fox (spudnuts)
8. 06:58 AM - Re: series V C.G and weight limits (Bob Unternaehrer)
9. 06:58 AM - file resizing (Bob Unternaehrer)
10. 07:02 AM - Re: Question to the list (Jimmie Blackwell)
11. 07:05 AM - Re: Broken Fox (Dave G.)
12. 07:09 AM - Re: Broken Fox (kurt schrader)
13. 07:32 AM - Re: First flight 541KF (kurt schrader)
14. 07:39 AM - Re: First flight 541KF (ron schick)
15. 07:57 AM - Re: First flight 541KF (Tim Vader)
16. 08:35 AM - Re: First flight 541KF (Fox5flyer)
17. 08:36 AM - Re: file resizing (Fox5flyer)
18. 09:01 AM - Re: file resizing (Michel Verheughe)
19. 09:11 AM - Re: Broken Fox (spudnuts)
20. 09:58 AM - sales/use tax RV 9 (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
21. 10:04 AM - Re: Broken Fox (jeff puls)
22. 10:10 AM - Re: First flight 541KF (jeff puls)
23. 10:46 AM - Re: Motorcycle grip Throttle (Kenneth and Alice Jones)
24. 11:31 AM - Re: Broken Fox (Andrew Matthaey)
25. 11:41 AM - KitFox Model 7A for sale 760-728-2450 (Robert Harris)
26. 12:30 PM - Re: Broken Fox (Len Shorethose)
27. 01:18 PM - Re: file resizing (Bob Unternaehrer)
28. 02:35 PM - Re: series V C.G and weight limits and Oshkosh (jdmcbean)
29. 02:37 PM - Re: Broken Fox (Andrew Matthaey)
30. 02:50 PM - Re: Broken Fox (spudnuts)
31. 03:15 PM - Re: KitFox Model 7A for sale 760-728-2450 (Robert Harris)
32. 03:47 PM - Re: RV9-List: sales/use tax RV 9 (Streiker, Stephen D.)
33. 03:55 PM - Re: Re: Broken Fox (kurt schrader)
34. 04:10 PM - Re: Re: Broken Fox (jeff puls)
35. 04:17 PM - Re: Re: Broken Fox (kurt schrader)
36. 04:54 PM - Re: 912ULS - Oil in Exhaust (kurt schrader)
37. 05:23 PM - small file Blank series V weight and balance (AMuller589@aol.com)
38. 05:26 PM - Re: 912ULS - Oil in Exhaust (James Shumaker)
39. 05:52 PM - Re: Fuel caution (kurt schrader)
40. 06:35 PM - Re: small file Blank series V weight and balance (kurt schrader)
41. 06:36 PM - Re: Carburetor Troubles on 912Ul (John King)
42. 06:55 PM - Re: Carburetor Troubles on 912Ul (Jimmie Blackwell)
43. 08:06 PM - Re: Battery Box (Bill Hammond)
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| Subject: | Ham. WAS: Question to the list |
> From: Lowell Fitt [lcfitt@sbcglobal.net]
> I was WA7SZJ until I failed to renew.
And I am LA0HA. Well, mostly LA0HA/MM and I have never tried LA0HA/AM because I
am exclusively CW operator and it would be strange to be in my Kitfox, my old
keyer on the knee trying to transmit in light to moderate turbulence. :-)
But, maybe if one day I get bored to fly, I'll build a tiny QRP kit of 5 Watts
and trail a long-wire antenna through the opening of my bungee cords. A simple
weighted copper wire on a fishing reel.
... but I can already hear my wife saying: "Yet another hobby, that's all you needed!
Do you want me to serve you a Martini, shaken not stirred, dressed a Playboy
bunny suit, while you solder your QRP radio set? ... in your dreams, Mister!"
:-)
73 (dadadididit didididadat),
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Question to the list |
WB5YEZ, Currently operating with a Yaesu FT-840 on HF and Vertex Standard Air Band/2Meter
combination. Have on occassion used the 2 meter capability from the
Kitfox. Great 2 meter coverage.
Jimmie
Cedar Park, Texas
Andy Fultz <fultz@trip.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy Fultz"
N5MPC here. NO ham gear up and running now. Putting all my pennies and
time in the project. Planning to one day put 2m/440 in the plane though.
Andy F.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Grant Bright
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 10:59 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Question to the list
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Grant Bright"
I don't think I have read anyone mentioning Ham Radio.
Are any of you Fox fliers also ham radio ops? If so, it
would be great to meet up and have a round-table.
If not, there is Skpe which is free and allows "conference
calls."
Skype can be found at http://www.skype.com With a $10
microphone and $10 speakers, it works well...but not as much
fun as ham radio.
Cheers,
Grant
Series 5 Vixen
912UL
N21VX
W4OJC
Atlanta, Georgia
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| Subject: | Re: First flight 541KF |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Good story Ron, thanks. Obviously, only four things need to happen for the
engine to run properly. Fuel, air, spark, and both to meet at the correct
time. The first thing I'd check would be the fuel flow. Ensure it is
within the fuel flow requirements. Check free flow and also the flow with
pump on. Do you have a backup pump? You obviously have spark or the engine
wouldn't run. However, when things heat up something is obviously breaking
down. While checking fuel flow I would replace the plugs because it's the
cheapest and easiest to do then go out and try again while taking note of
all ambient conditions. Cleaning and gapping will not help a plug with a
small crack in the insulator. Do you have EGT gauges? Do they read any
different during this time. Does the engine miss under load or at all
times, even when you're taxiing back? What is the OAT during this time? Do
you have a manifold pressure (MP) gauge? Possibly you may have a small
vacuum leak which the MP gauge would show. Mags are designed to operate
under very high heat, but I wouldn't rule it out. Do you have a single mag?
Do you have access to a spare?
Hope some of this helps.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:12 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: First flight 541KF
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
<roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
> Having recently completing my tailwheel training I left the field today in
> N541KF. The VW powered MK IV Speedster is an absolute joy to fly. Slips
> through the air without all of the parasitic drag of my STOL Avid. Flys
> hands off and does not squirrel around when the power settings are
changed.
> This was a concern with the thrust centerline/ angle using the redrive.
The
> controls feel smooth and solid begging for more input than I plan to do
for
> a while. Balance feels perfect as I can stall the tailwheel down before
the
> mains if I want.
> That is the good part.... The prop is overpitched and climbed 500' per
> minute at best. Cruise was around 90 without being able to reach redline
> rpm. Worse than that was this nasty little habit of misfiring after
about
> 1/2 hour hard running. I was doing a left then right mainwheel touch and
go
> to see what the alignment felt like on asphault. The landing went well
with
> no tendancy to swerve from either main wheel and a nice transition to
> tailwheel. With 3000' of runway 31 asphault left I chose to go around
> again. At about 300' agl the motor misfired a few times and I radioed
> landing runway 22. I could not contact a small helo playing long on that
> runway so I amended my landing to runway 16. This was a 230 course
> reversal. With a tailwind and a pos motor I made the turn. It went well
and
> I could have landed anywhere there if needed. Fortunately I made the
runway
> so our overactive firefighters did'nt come over and hose me.
> After gapping down the plugs at a friends hanger it ran flawlessly.
Ten
> miles to the north, near my grass strip, I began some steep turns and
stalls
> to get at least some performance testing in. After 1/2 hour running I
made
> for the pattern. On my turn to base the same misfire. Yes practice
slips
> and s turns and come in hot! I had my carb heat on and I don't think it
was
> ice. I believe it may be that my magneto is overheating and needs baffles
> and a scat hose. After cooling down it once again runs perfect. I'll
> check fuel flow as well. Any ideas??? Ron NB Ore Cleaning the shorts
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Question to the list |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
So where would one go about finding good, inexpensive ham-gear?? I don't
think I've touched a radio in a few years...I'm afraid they might give
KC2DKF away to another Hammer LoL...How much would a good aircraft setup
run?
Andrew
>From: Jimmie Blackwell <jimmieblackwell@sbcglobal.net>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Question to the list
>Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 05:35:24 -0700 (PDT)
>
>WB5YEZ, Currently operating with a Yaesu FT-840 on HF and Vertex Standard
>Air Band/2Meter combination. Have on occassion used the 2 meter capability
>from the Kitfox. Great 2 meter coverage.
>
> Jimmie
>
> Cedar Park, Texas
>
>Andy Fultz <fultz@trip.net> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy Fultz"
>
>N5MPC here. NO ham gear up and running now. Putting all my pennies and
>time in the project. Planning to one day put 2m/440 in the plane though.
>
>Andy F.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Grant Bright
>Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 10:59 AM
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Question to the list
>
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Grant Bright"
>
>I don't think I have read anyone mentioning Ham Radio.
>
>Are any of you Fox fliers also ham radio ops? If so, it
>would be great to meet up and have a round-table.
>
>If not, there is Skpe which is free and allows "conference
>calls."
>
>Skype can be found at http://www.skype.com With a $10
>microphone and $10 speakers, it works well...but not as much
>fun as ham radio.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Grant
>
>Series 5 Vixen
>912UL
>N21VX
>
>W4OJC
>
>Atlanta, Georgia
>
>
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| Subject: | Question to the list |
I am WB5PWG , I have worked a two meter handheld from my fox. I havn't
thought about installing any radios.
Marwynne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jimmie Blackwell
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:35 AM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Question to the list
WB5YEZ, Currently operating with a Yaesu FT-840 on HF and Vertex Standard
Air Band/2Meter combination. Have on occassion used the 2 meter capability
from the Kitfox. Great 2 meter coverage.
Jimmie
Cedar Park, Texas
Andy Fultz <fultz@trip.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy Fultz"
N5MPC here. NO ham gear up and running now. Putting all my pennies and
time in the project. Planning to one day put 2m/440 in the plane though.
Andy F.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Grant Bright
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 10:59 AM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Question to the
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| Subject: | Re: Polytone over old polytone with carnauba. New question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
Won't adhere by itself. Likely have to go with the
light wet epoxy primer coat then the polytone...
Regards,
Ted
--- Original Message ---
From: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@Chartermi.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Polytone over old polytone
with carnauba. New question
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's"
<7suds@chartermi.net>
>
>Dave, And List,
>What are your thoughts about Polytone over Aerothane
if it is sanded heavily
>with wet dry?
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "spudnuts" <martan@cstone.net>
I am thinking of buying a used series V that was ground looped (it ended up inverted
on a grass strip). The tail was crunched a little, the prop was broken
and some fabric torn, but the repairs look pretty good from the pictures (I have
not seen it in person yet). It has a fresh annual (july) I am planning on
making a visit soon, any particular things I should look for? I know thats a really
broad question, but any help is appreciated.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53031#53031
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| Subject: | Re: series V C.G and weight limits |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
I stand corrected. I was going by others weights on IV's and 7's. A
recently posted weight and balance sheet showed a Series 7 in the 1050 lb.
range I believe. This just substantiates how different airplanes can be
built from the same parts. I hope Phil incorporates many of the vacuum
molded parts he made for his airplane also. What I know for sure is most
light experimentals fly soooooo much better light. Maybe someone can tell
me if there is much difference in weight of the series 5 vs the 7 and if
someone has already built a series 7 in the 750 lb range. Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: series V C.G and weight limits
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
<rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
> Just to support what Phil says: My Series 5 with a series 7 firewall
> forward and 912S weighs 776 lbs. This is with Grove gear, large heavy
> tires, adjustable pedals, dual brakes, two 13 gallon gas tanks and weight
> conscious building.
>
> 750 lbs is not unreasonable.
>
> Randy
>
>
> .
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> phil@lakercustom.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 9:34 AM
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: phil@lakercustom.com
>
> I own and have flown a Vixen for 1500 hours. It weighs 755 pounds
> on EAA's "certified" scales. Tri gear, 1550 Grove gear, Clevelands.
> I was very carefull about weight from the first hour of build. I
> am sure a 750 pound Kitfox Super Sport will be acheivable, and am
> betting the business on it. The demonstrator fuselage and weldments
> are going to the powder coater now, I'll keep you all posted. The
> Super Sport 1550 option is a slightly heavier gear.
>
> Thanks for the support shown us at Oshkosh!
>
> Phil Laker
>
>
> > I guess the new series 7 airplanes that will be sold will have the 1320
GW
> > that sport pilot allows according to the literature being handed out at
> > OSH with a 1550 GVW option, which I think John said is a different
landing
> > gear being the main or only difference. Their literature shows EW of
750
> > lbs. which is likely very optimistic, since most Model IV's come out in
or
> > above that area, and if you actually come out around 900 lbs. which
some
> > have suggested you would only have slightly over 400 lbs. for fuel and
> > people, or with full tanks of 27 gal, would make it a single place
> > airplane for most of us and a max pilot weight of 258 lbs. One of the
many
> > "loop holes" I guess of the Sport Pilot thing. Bob U.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
>
>
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Could someone please post the method for resizing a ".doc" file again.
I just looked at the W&B sheet that was posted for a series 5 and it
came out 1028.5lbs. I'd like to have it available in blank form, but
this file was over the 2 meg limit and is taking up unnecessary space.
It seems to me that a separate downloadable program was required, or was
it something already in the "windows' operating system. I'm sure glad
the list allows attachments now and don't want to violate the rules. My
"picture program" has an easy file converter for JPG files that are
stored withing it, but nothing outside of it.
Blue Skies
Bob Unternaehrer
shilocom@mcmsys.com
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| Subject: | Question to the list |
If you just want to do 2 meters the Vertex Standard VXA 710 will double as a air
com/nav and 2 meter ham band. I have the VXA 700 which is similar and am happy
with it after some initial problems. It comes with a headset adapter, so
it is easy to use in an airplane for both air and ham applications.
Should be able to get it through one of the larger ham stores for about $350.
Jimmie
Andrew Matthaey <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey"
So where would one go about finding good, inexpensive ham-gear?? I don't
think I've touched a radio in a few years...I'm afraid they might give
KC2DKF away to another Hammer LoL...How much would a good aircraft setup
run?
Andrew
>From: Jimmie Blackwell
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Question to the list
>Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 05:35:24 -0700 (PDT)
>
>WB5YEZ, Currently operating with a Yaesu FT-840 on HF and Vertex Standard
>Air Band/2Meter combination. Have on occassion used the 2 meter capability
>from the Kitfox. Great 2 meter coverage.
>
> Jimmie
>
> Cedar Park, Texas
>
>Andy Fultz wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy Fultz"
>
>N5MPC here. NO ham gear up and running now. Putting all my pennies and
>time in the project. Planning to one day put 2m/440 in the plane though.
>
>Andy F.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Grant Bright
>Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 10:59 AM
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Question to the list
>
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Grant Bright"
>
>I don't think I have read anyone mentioning Ham Radio.
>
>Are any of you Fox fliers also ham radio ops? If so, it
>would be great to meet up and have a round-table.
>
>If not, there is Skpe which is free and allows "conference
>calls."
>
>Skype can be found at http://www.skype.com With a $10
>microphone and $10 speakers, it works well...but not as much
>fun as ham radio.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Grant
>
>Series 5 Vixen
>912UL
>N21VX
>
>W4OJC
>
>Atlanta, Georgia
>
>
_________________________________________________________________
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
Yup, look for bent and dented spars, particularly the rear. It's a time
consuming repair.
----- Original Message -----
From: "spudnuts" <martan@cstone.net>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:32 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Broken Fox
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "spudnuts" <martan@cstone.net>
>
> I am thinking of buying a used series V that was ground looped (it ended
> up inverted on a grass strip). The tail was crunched a little, the prop
> was broken and some fabric torn, but the repairs look pretty good from the
> pictures (I have not seen it in person yet). It has a fresh annual (july)
> I am planning on making a visit soon, any particular things I should look
> for? I know thats a really broad question, but any help is appreciated.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53031#53031
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I would do a by-the-book rigging check on it before
purchase. That would help tell you if anything was
bent that wasn't obvious.
Kurt S.
--- spudnuts <martan@cstone.net> wrote:
> I am thinking of buying a used series V that was
> ground looped (it ended up inverted on a grass
> strip). The tail was crunched a little, the prop
> was broken and some fabric torn, but the repairs
> look pretty good from the pictures (I have not seen
> it in person yet). It has a fresh annual (july) I
> am planning on making a visit soon, any particular
> things I should look for? I know thats a really
> broad question, but any help is appreciated.
__________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: First flight 541KF |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Hi Ron,
I had a VW for a long time and had the same thing
twice. Once it was ignition system overheat, and the
other was the ignition capacitor itself. (I tore the
whole engine apart for a $1.69 capacitor!)
Add to that your engine might carbon up with that high
pitch prop and just a little rich running.
I'd buy a cheap ($10) indoor/outdoor thermometer and
put the outside sensor on the ignition to monitor it.
Shield it from the exhaust heat too.
Just some thoughts.
Kurt S.
--- ron schick <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Having recently completing my tailwheel training I
> left the field today in
> N541KF. The VW powered MK IV Speedster is an
> absolute joy to fly. Slips
> through the air without all of the parasitic drag of
> my STOL Avid. Flys
> hands off and does not squirrel around when the
> power settings are changed.
> This was a concern with the thrust centerline/ angle
> using the redrive. The
> controls feel smooth and solid begging for more
> input than I plan to do for
> a while. Balance feels perfect as I can stall the
> tailwheel down before the
> mains if I want.
> That is the good part.... The prop is overpitched
> and climbed 500' per
> minute at best. Cruise was around 90 without being
> able to reach redline
> rpm. Worse than that was this nasty little habit
> of misfiring after about
> 1/2 hour hard running. I was doing a left then
> right mainwheel touch and go
> to see what the alignment felt like on asphault.
> The landing went well with
> no tendancy to swerve from either main wheel and a
> nice transition to
> tailwheel. With 3000' of runway 31 asphault left I
> chose to go around
> again. At about 300' agl the motor misfired a few
> times and I radioed
> landing runway 22. I could not contact a small helo
> playing long on that
> runway so I amended my landing to runway 16. This
> was a 230 course
> reversal. With a tailwind and a pos motor I made
> the turn. It went well and
> I could have landed anywhere there if needed.
> Fortunately I made the runway
> so our overactive firefighters did'nt come over and
> hose me.
> After gapping down the plugs at a friends hanger
> it ran flawlessly. Ten
> miles to the north, near my grass strip, I began
> some steep turns and stalls
> to get at least some performance testing in. After
> 1/2 hour running I made
> for the pattern. On my turn to base the same
> misfire. Yes practice slips
> and s turns and come in hot! I had my carb heat on
> and I don't think it was
> ice. I believe it may be that my magneto is
> overheating and needs baffles
> and a scat hose. After cooling down it once again
> runs perfect. I'll
> check fuel flow as well. Any ideas??? Ron NB Ore
> Cleaning the shorts
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
HI Deke. Single mag only and one cylinder misfires first if not the only
one. I have limited gauges so am diagnosing by experience of other vw
problems only. The plugs all looked the same with the excepion of the sooty
misfiring plug. I think it sooted up as a result rather than cause of the
misfire. Single barrell carb so I can eliminate many possibilities due to
the other strong pulling cylinders. The misfire occred under transition to
go around first, then at 50% or less power in the pattern the second time.
My first check will be to ensure fuel flow, then put a stock distributor in
for a test. I have everything to try this without spending more $$$$$ on
parts which may not be the problem. I have a zero time Revmaster with
dual plug heads that I may put on this engine if I can get the prop and
performance dialed in. Hate to cabbage a complete motor though. Thanks
Ron NB Ore
>From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First flight 541KF
>Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 09:05:56 -0400
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
>Good story Ron, thanks. Obviously, only four things need to happen for the
>engine to run properly. Fuel, air, spark, and both to meet at the correct
>time. The first thing I'd check would be the fuel flow. Ensure it is
>within the fuel flow requirements. Check free flow and also the flow with
>pump on. Do you have a backup pump? You obviously have spark or the
>engine
>wouldn't run. However, when things heat up something is obviously breaking
>down. While checking fuel flow I would replace the plugs because it's the
>cheapest and easiest to do then go out and try again while taking note of
>all ambient conditions. Cleaning and gapping will not help a plug with a
>small crack in the insulator. Do you have EGT gauges? Do they read any
>different during this time. Does the engine miss under load or at all
>times, even when you're taxiing back? What is the OAT during this time?
>Do
>you have a manifold pressure (MP) gauge? Possibly you may have a small
>vacuum leak which the MP gauge would show. Mags are designed to operate
>under very high heat, but I wouldn't rule it out. Do you have a single
>mag?
>Do you have access to a spare?
>Hope some of this helps.
>Deke
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:12 AM
>Subject: Kitfox-List: First flight 541KF
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
><roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Having recently completing my tailwheel training I left the field today
>in
> > N541KF. The VW powered MK IV Speedster is an absolute joy to fly. Slips
> > through the air without all of the parasitic drag of my STOL Avid. Flys
> > hands off and does not squirrel around when the power settings are
>changed.
> > This was a concern with the thrust centerline/ angle using the redrive.
>The
> > controls feel smooth and solid begging for more input than I plan to do
>for
> > a while. Balance feels perfect as I can stall the tailwheel down before
>the
> > mains if I want.
> > That is the good part.... The prop is overpitched and climbed 500'
>per
> > minute at best. Cruise was around 90 without being able to reach
>redline
> > rpm. Worse than that was this nasty little habit of misfiring after
>about
> > 1/2 hour hard running. I was doing a left then right mainwheel touch
>and
>go
> > to see what the alignment felt like on asphault. The landing went well
>with
> > no tendancy to swerve from either main wheel and a nice transition to
> > tailwheel. With 3000' of runway 31 asphault left I chose to go around
> > again. At about 300' agl the motor misfired a few times and I radioed
> > landing runway 22. I could not contact a small helo playing long on
>that
> > runway so I amended my landing to runway 16. This was a 230 course
> > reversal. With a tailwind and a pos motor I made the turn. It went well
>and
> > I could have landed anywhere there if needed. Fortunately I made the
>runway
> > so our overactive firefighters did'nt come over and hose me.
> > After gapping down the plugs at a friends hanger it ran flawlessly.
>Ten
> > miles to the north, near my grass strip, I began some steep turns and
>stalls
> > to get at least some performance testing in. After 1/2 hour running I
>made
> > for the pattern. On my turn to base the same misfire. Yes practice
>slips
> > and s turns and come in hot! I had my carb heat on and I don't think it
>was
> > ice. I believe it may be that my magneto is overheating and needs
>baffles
> > and a scat hose. After cooling down it once again runs perfect. I'll
> > check fuel flow as well. Any ideas??? Ron NB Ore Cleaning the shorts
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tim Vader" <vadert@telusplanet.net>
Ron
Sorry I can't offer any advice on the misfiring other than the things
you've already outlined. Well maybe one thing, check your fuel line for
nearby heat sources that could be causing some vapourizing problems. I
think it's more likely to be electrical. Oh, check the plug wires for
separation so they aren't crossfeeding each other. Congratulations on your
first flight. I hope you get your problems sorted out for the next flight.
Sounds like you handled your problems well on the first one. Good luck with
diagnosing the problem.
Tim Vader
C-FBYV (Sub IV)
Still repairing
----- Original Message -----
From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 10:12 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: First flight 541KF
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
> Having recently completing my tailwheel training I left the field today in
> N541KF. The VW powered MK IV Speedster is an absolute joy to fly.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
It doesn't sound like a huge problem as you can easily see where it is
affecting one plug and shouldn't be difficult to track down. First thing
I'd do is change that plug and also the plug wire might be a bit of a
suspect. Changing the distributor is a good plan too. One of the problems
of doing too many changes in one go is that when the problem is fixed, you
don't know which fix fixed it! Good luck and congrats on first flight.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First flight 541KF
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
<roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
> HI Deke. Single mag only and one cylinder misfires first if not the only
> one. I have limited gauges so am diagnosing by experience of other vw
> problems only. The plugs all looked the same with the excepion of the
sooty
> misfiring plug. I think it sooted up as a result rather than cause of the
> misfire. Single barrell carb so I can eliminate many possibilities due to
> the other strong pulling cylinders. The misfire occred under transition
to
> go around first, then at 50% or less power in the pattern the second time.
> My first check will be to ensure fuel flow, then put a stock distributor
in
> for a test. I have everything to try this without spending more $$$$$ on
> parts which may not be the problem. I have a zero time Revmaster with
> dual plug heads that I may put on this engine if I can get the prop and
> performance dialed in. Hate to cabbage a complete motor though. Thanks
> Ron NB Ore
>
>
> >From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First flight 541KF
> >Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 09:05:56 -0400
> >
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
<morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> >
> >Good story Ron, thanks. Obviously, only four things need to happen for
the
> >engine to run properly. Fuel, air, spark, and both to meet at the
correct
> >time. The first thing I'd check would be the fuel flow. Ensure it is
> >within the fuel flow requirements. Check free flow and also the flow
with
> >pump on. Do you have a backup pump? You obviously have spark or the
> >engine
> >wouldn't run. However, when things heat up something is obviously
breaking
> >down. While checking fuel flow I would replace the plugs because it's
the
> >cheapest and easiest to do then go out and try again while taking note of
> >all ambient conditions. Cleaning and gapping will not help a plug with a
> >small crack in the insulator. Do you have EGT gauges? Do they read any
> >different during this time. Does the engine miss under load or at all
> >times, even when you're taxiing back? What is the OAT during this time?
> >Do
> >you have a manifold pressure (MP) gauge? Possibly you may have a small
> >vacuum leak which the MP gauge would show. Mags are designed to operate
> >under very high heat, but I wouldn't rule it out. Do you have a single
> >mag?
> >Do you have access to a spare?
> >Hope some of this helps.
> >Deke
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:12 AM
> >Subject: Kitfox-List: First flight 541KF
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
> ><roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
> > >
> > > Having recently completing my tailwheel training I left the field
today
> >in
> > > N541KF. The VW powered MK IV Speedster is an absolute joy to fly.
Slips
> > > through the air without all of the parasitic drag of my STOL Avid.
Flys
> > > hands off and does not squirrel around when the power settings are
> >changed.
> > > This was a concern with the thrust centerline/ angle using the
redrive.
> >The
> > > controls feel smooth and solid begging for more input than I plan to
do
> >for
> > > a while. Balance feels perfect as I can stall the tailwheel down
before
> >the
> > > mains if I want.
> > > That is the good part.... The prop is overpitched and climbed 500'
> >per
> > > minute at best. Cruise was around 90 without being able to reach
> >redline
> > > rpm. Worse than that was this nasty little habit of misfiring after
> >about
> > > 1/2 hour hard running. I was doing a left then right mainwheel touch
> >and
> >go
> > > to see what the alignment felt like on asphault. The landing went
well
> >with
> > > no tendancy to swerve from either main wheel and a nice transition to
> > > tailwheel. With 3000' of runway 31 asphault left I chose to go around
> > > again. At about 300' agl the motor misfired a few times and I radioed
> > > landing runway 22. I could not contact a small helo playing long on
> >that
> > > runway so I amended my landing to runway 16. This was a 230 course
> > > reversal. With a tailwind and a pos motor I made the turn. It went
well
> >and
> > > I could have landed anywhere there if needed. Fortunately I made the
> >runway
> > > so our overactive firefighters did'nt come over and hose me.
> > > After gapping down the plugs at a friends hanger it ran flawlessly.
> >Ten
> > > miles to the north, near my grass strip, I began some steep turns and
> >stalls
> > > to get at least some performance testing in. After 1/2 hour running
I
> >made
> > > for the pattern. On my turn to base the same misfire. Yes practice
> >slips
> > > and s turns and come in hot! I had my carb heat on and I don't think
it
> >was
> > > ice. I believe it may be that my magneto is overheating and needs
> >baffles
> > > and a scat hose. After cooling down it once again runs perfect.
I'll
> > > check fuel flow as well. Any ideas??? Ron NB Ore Cleaning the
shorts
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: file resizing |
Go to Microsoft and search Image Resizer.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Unternaehrer
To: Kitfox List
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: file resizing
Could someone please post the method for resizing a ".doc" file again.
I just looked at the W&B sheet that was posted for a series 5 and it
came out 1028.5lbs. I'd like to have it available in blank form, but
this file was over the 2 meg limit and is taking up unnecessary space.
It seems to me that a separate downloadable program was required, or was
it something already in the "windows' operating system. I'm sure glad
the list allows attachments now and don't want to violate the rules. My
"picture program" has an easy file converter for JPG files that are
stored withing it, but nothing outside of it.
Blue Skies
Bob Unternaehrer
shilocom@mcmsys.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Aug 7, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Bob Unternaehrer wrote:
> Could someone please post the method for resizing a ".doc" file again.
Hello Bob,
The ".doc" format, proprietary of Microsoft Word, is never good to
attach to an email, unless it is, indeed, a formatted text document
such as a contract, letter of intent, or any business correspondence.
I understand that you are talking about a graphic file. Yes, some
people think Word is the fit-all format and put graphic in a Word
document. Unfortunately, once done, it is impossible to retrieve it as
the format has been changed to a somewhat heavier BMP (also a Microsoft
proprietary format) and useless thing like available typefaces are
added.
In my opinion, the only way to retrieve the graphic is to take a screen
dump of the document open, and then treat it as a graphic file.
If you send me the file to my private email, I'll look at it and try to
convert to something acceptable by the list.
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "spudnuts" <martan@cstone.net>
Forgive my obvious ignorance, but what is a 'by the book' rigging check? Where
do I get this book?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53085#53085
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| Subject: | sales/use tax RV 9 |
recent threads discussed state use/sales tax on homebuilt aircraft. obviously
utah monitors the faa registration. tax plus interest from the date registration
was issued has been assessed. they have assigned a fair market value of $56,900
on the RV9. The tax levied is $3470.90.
it probably is not worth haggling over the fmv but raising the date from which
interest is assessed might be worth a few pennies.
<html><body>
<DIV>recent threads discussed state use/sales tax on homebuilt aircraft.
obviously utah monitors the faa registration. tax plus interest from the
date registration was issued has been assessed. they have assigned a fair market
value of $56,900 on the RV9. The tax levied is $3470.90.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>it probably is not worth haggling over the fmv but raising the date from which
interest is assessed might be worth a few pennies.</DIV></body></html>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Look at the matrix of tubing in front of the seat for bending. Talk to the
pilot who dinged it. There is a big difference between letting it get away
from you a little and stomping on the brakes rather than a hard landing out
of control. Find out if there was a "sudden stoppage" on the engine. Good
luck! Sounds like a good project. Jeff Classic IV
----- Original Message -----
From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Broken Fox
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> I would do a by-the-book rigging check on it before
> purchase. That would help tell you if anything was
> bent that wasn't obvious.
>
> Kurt S.
>
> --- spudnuts <martan@cstone.net> wrote:
>
>> I am thinking of buying a used series V that was
>> ground looped (it ended up inverted on a grass
>> strip). The tail was crunched a little, the prop
>> was broken and some fabric torn, but the repairs
>> look pretty good from the pictures (I have not seen
>> it in person yet). It has a fresh annual (july) I
>> am planning on making a visit soon, any particular
>> things I should look for? I know thats a really
>> broad question, but any help is appreciated.
>
> __________________________________________________
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
It seems that everytime you had a problem you were in some type of turn. It
could be fuel disruption for some reason. Jeff Classic IV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First flight 541KF
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> It doesn't sound like a huge problem as you can easily see where it is
> affecting one plug and shouldn't be difficult to track down. First thing
> I'd do is change that plug and also the plug wire might be a bit of a
> suspect. Changing the distributor is a good plan too. One of the
> problems
> of doing too many changes in one go is that when the problem is fixed, you
> don't know which fix fixed it! Good luck and congrats on first flight.
> Deke
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:39 AM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First flight 541KF
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
> <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>>
>> HI Deke. Single mag only and one cylinder misfires first if not the only
>> one. I have limited gauges so am diagnosing by experience of other vw
>> problems only. The plugs all looked the same with the excepion of the
> sooty
>> misfiring plug. I think it sooted up as a result rather than cause of
>> the
>> misfire. Single barrell carb so I can eliminate many possibilities due
>> to
>> the other strong pulling cylinders. The misfire occred under transition
> to
>> go around first, then at 50% or less power in the pattern the second
>> time.
>> My first check will be to ensure fuel flow, then put a stock distributor
> in
>> for a test. I have everything to try this without spending more $$$$$
>> on
>> parts which may not be the problem. I have a zero time Revmaster with
>> dual plug heads that I may put on this engine if I can get the prop and
>> performance dialed in. Hate to cabbage a complete motor though.
>> Thanks
>> Ron NB Ore
>>
>>
>> >From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>> >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First flight 541KF
>> >Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 09:05:56 -0400
>> >
>> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>> >
>> >Good story Ron, thanks. Obviously, only four things need to happen for
> the
>> >engine to run properly. Fuel, air, spark, and both to meet at the
> correct
>> >time. The first thing I'd check would be the fuel flow. Ensure it is
>> >within the fuel flow requirements. Check free flow and also the flow
> with
>> >pump on. Do you have a backup pump? You obviously have spark or the
>> >engine
>> >wouldn't run. However, when things heat up something is obviously
> breaking
>> >down. While checking fuel flow I would replace the plugs because it's
> the
>> >cheapest and easiest to do then go out and try again while taking note
>> >of
>> >all ambient conditions. Cleaning and gapping will not help a plug with
>> >a
>> >small crack in the insulator. Do you have EGT gauges? Do they read any
>> >different during this time. Does the engine miss under load or at all
>> >times, even when you're taxiing back? What is the OAT during this time?
>> >Do
>> >you have a manifold pressure (MP) gauge? Possibly you may have a small
>> >vacuum leak which the MP gauge would show. Mags are designed to operate
>> >under very high heat, but I wouldn't rule it out. Do you have a single
>> >mag?
>> >Do you have access to a spare?
>> >Hope some of this helps.
>> >Deke
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>> >Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:12 AM
>> >Subject: Kitfox-List: First flight 541KF
>> >
>> >
>> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
>> ><roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>> > >
>> > > Having recently completing my tailwheel training I left the field
> today
>> >in
>> > > N541KF. The VW powered MK IV Speedster is an absolute joy to fly.
> Slips
>> > > through the air without all of the parasitic drag of my STOL Avid.
> Flys
>> > > hands off and does not squirrel around when the power settings are
>> >changed.
>> > > This was a concern with the thrust centerline/ angle using the
> redrive.
>> >The
>> > > controls feel smooth and solid begging for more input than I plan to
> do
>> >for
>> > > a while. Balance feels perfect as I can stall the tailwheel down
> before
>> >the
>> > > mains if I want.
>> > > That is the good part.... The prop is overpitched and climbed 500'
>> >per
>> > > minute at best. Cruise was around 90 without being able to reach
>> >redline
>> > > rpm. Worse than that was this nasty little habit of misfiring after
>> >about
>> > > 1/2 hour hard running. I was doing a left then right mainwheel touch
>> >and
>> >go
>> > > to see what the alignment felt like on asphault. The landing went
> well
>> >with
>> > > no tendancy to swerve from either main wheel and a nice transition to
>> > > tailwheel. With 3000' of runway 31 asphault left I chose to go
>> > > around
>> > > again. At about 300' agl the motor misfired a few times and I
>> > > radioed
>> > > landing runway 22. I could not contact a small helo playing long on
>> >that
>> > > runway so I amended my landing to runway 16. This was a 230 course
>> > > reversal. With a tailwind and a pos motor I made the turn. It went
> well
>> >and
>> > > I could have landed anywhere there if needed. Fortunately I made the
>> >runway
>> > > so our overactive firefighters did'nt come over and hose me.
>> > > After gapping down the plugs at a friends hanger it ran flawlessly.
>> >Ten
>> > > miles to the north, near my grass strip, I began some steep turns and
>> >stalls
>> > > to get at least some performance testing in. After 1/2 hour running
> I
>> >made
>> > > for the pattern. On my turn to base the same misfire. Yes practice
>> >slips
>> > > and s turns and come in hot! I had my carb heat on and I don't think
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>> > > ice. I believe it may be that my magneto is overheating and needs
>> >baffles
>> > > and a scat hose. After cooling down it once again runs perfect.
> I'll
>> > > check fuel flow as well. Any ideas??? Ron NB Ore Cleaning the
> shorts
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| Subject: | Re: Motorcycle grip Throttle |
Thanks to those who responded to my request for help. While I'm at
least a year away from engine installation, I'll start now on the
research phase. I think I'll start by visiting a few motorcycle dealers
to see how their systems work.
Ken Jones
----- Original Message -----
From: John Anderson
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Motorcycle grip Throttle
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
Recip helos have motorcycle type throttles on the collective. How
about on the flap lever??
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All this talk about a motorcycle throttle has me worried!
If John Denver were here he would say "keep things standard" "I
can't live with controls and switches and valves being anywhere but
correct and in the right place". That's what he would say.
What would happen with a twist throttle (motorcycle style) at the
end of your stick when moving the stick around, yanking it back for take
off, pushing it forward for level flight and what about those quick
lefts and rights at landing (little breezes).
I can imagine, if I had another control on my stick, I would be
adjusting the RPM the same time as I make flight control inputs.
But then again, I am thinking of installing a foot controlled
throttle. Do you think it should be to the right of the rudder peddles
or in between? (Kidding!!)
With all the discussions on the topic, safety?
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
It wouldn't happen to have been ground-looped sometimes last year in
Florida, would it?
Andrew
do not archive
>From: "spudnuts" <martan@cstone.net>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Broken Fox
>Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 06:32:08 -0700
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "spudnuts" <martan@cstone.net>
>
>I am thinking of buying a used series V that was ground looped (it ended up
>inverted on a grass strip). The tail was crunched a little, the prop was
>broken and some fabric torn, but the repairs look pretty good from the
>pictures (I have not seen it in person yet). It has a fresh annual (july)
>I am planning on making a visit soon, any particular things I should look
>for? I know thats a really broad question, but any help is appreciated.
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53031#53031
>
>
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| Subject: | KitFox Model 7A for sale 760-728-2450 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Robert Harris" <taxman_robert@hotmail.com>
I've seen this plane and it is really nice. Built by a professional builder
and priced way below value. Here is the barnstormers ad.This newest model
has extended bagage and is complete firewall back. It is about 70% built
with many accs. including factory wings. Will sell well below new cost.
Asking $19,500 obo. Please phone Ken Schooley 760-728-2450.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Len Shorethose" <toolowterrain@gmail.com>
Yes it was one and the same... N704LS... I was the builder but not the guy
that crashed it. I had sold it the day prior!
It wasn't a ground loop but a landing in mud followed by a nose over with a
prop strike. Ended up inverted. Poor judgment on the pilot's part for
landing on a muddy grass strip.
It was just up recently on eBay but didn't sell.
Len Shorethose
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Broken Fox
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey"
> <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
>
> It wouldn't happen to have been ground-looped sometimes last year in
> Florida, would it?
>
> Andrew
>
> do not archive
>
>
>>From: "spudnuts" <martan@cstone.net>
>>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Kitfox-List: Broken Fox
>>Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 06:32:08 -0700
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "spudnuts" <martan@cstone.net>
>>
>>I am thinking of buying a used series V that was ground looped (it ended
>>up inverted on a grass strip). The tail was crunched a little, the prop
>>was broken and some fabric torn, but the repairs look pretty good from the
>>pictures (I have not seen it in person yet). It has a fresh annual (july)
>>I am planning on making a visit soon, any particular things I should look
>>for? I know thats a really broad question, but any help is appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Read this topic online here:
>>
>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53031#53031
>>
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| Subject: | Re: file resizing |
I can do "images" in jpg and others but not the ".doc" format. Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: Fox5flyer
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: file resizing
Go to Microsoft and search Image Resizer.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Unternaehrer
To: Kitfox List
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: file resizing
Could someone please post the method for resizing a ".doc" file
again. I just looked at the W&B sheet that was posted for a series 5
and it came out 1028.5lbs. I'd like to have it available in blank form,
but this file was over the 2 meg limit and is taking up unnecessary
space. It seems to me that a separate downloadable program was
required, or was it something already in the "windows' operating system.
I'm sure glad the list allows attachments now and don't want to violate
the rules. My "picture program" has an easy file converter for JPG
files that are stored withing it, but nothing outside of it.
Blue Skies
Bob Unternaehrer
shilocom@mcmsys.com
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| Subject: | series V C.G and weight limits and Oshkosh |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Well guys....
Thought we would get out from under the stack of stuff waiting for
us upon our return from Oshkosh... No such luck... which is a great thing.
We are very busy. Oshkosh went very well and we appreciate all the support
from the builders/owners and a special thanks goes out to those who flew
their Kitfox's to the show. It was great to see them there.. Maybe next
year we can get them all together AND have a camping area.
Congrats to Tim Petsche's award for the OUTSTANDING WORKMANSHIP , KIT
BUILT. Most of you have seen Tim's Series 7 on our web..
http://kitfoxaircraft.com/NewToKitfox.htm
As for the weights.... There are several things other then the gear.. it is
just that the gear is one of the weight saving areas that has a gross weight
limit attached to it... It is amazing how an ounce here and an ounce there
really turns into several pounds... For the record there are several early
Series 5's that are in the 600+ pound range and several 1550 GW 5's, 6's
and 7's that are between 700 and 800 pounds... Most of the heavier ones 900+
incorporate the use of the Lycoming, Continental and NSI engines.. Some are
even over the 1000 pound range.
The Super Sport will have a 1320 gross on gear (1550 option) 1430 when on
floats and the empty weight of 750 is obtainable... (most likely not on
floats unfortunately.. although that would be very nice.) yes we are looking
into floats.... For both the 1550 and the 1430.
We are also re-introducing the round cowl for the Super Sport so both will
be available.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bob Unternaehrer
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: series V C.G and weight limits
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
I stand corrected. I was going by others weights on IV's and 7's. A
recently posted weight and balance sheet showed a Series 7 in the 1050 lb.
range I believe. This just substantiates how different airplanes can be
built from the same parts. I hope Phil incorporates many of the vacuum
molded parts he made for his airplane also. What I know for sure is most
light experimentals fly soooooo much better light. Maybe someone can tell
me if there is much difference in weight of the series 5 vs the 7 and if
someone has already built a series 7 in the 750 lb range. Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: series V C.G and weight limits
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
<rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
> Just to support what Phil says: My Series 5 with a series 7 firewall
> forward and 912S weighs 776 lbs. This is with Grove gear, large heavy
> tires, adjustable pedals, dual brakes, two 13 gallon gas tanks and weight
> conscious building.
>
> 750 lbs is not unreasonable.
>
> Randy
>
>
> .
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> phil@lakercustom.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 9:34 AM
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: phil@lakercustom.com
>
> I own and have flown a Vixen for 1500 hours. It weighs 755 pounds
> on EAA's "certified" scales. Tri gear, 1550 Grove gear, Clevelands.
> I was very carefull about weight from the first hour of build. I
> am sure a 750 pound Kitfox Super Sport will be acheivable, and am
> betting the business on it. The demonstrator fuselage and weldments
> are going to the powder coater now, I'll keep you all posted. The
> Super Sport 1550 option is a slightly heavier gear.
>
> Thanks for the support shown us at Oshkosh!
>
> Phil Laker
>
>
> > I guess the new series 7 airplanes that will be sold will have the 1320
GW
> > that sport pilot allows according to the literature being handed out at
> > OSH with a 1550 GVW option, which I think John said is a different
landing
> > gear being the main or only difference. Their literature shows EW of
750
> > lbs. which is likely very optimistic, since most Model IV's come out in
or
> > above that area, and if you actually come out around 900 lbs. which
some
> > have suggested you would only have slightly over 400 lbs. for fuel and
> > people, or with full tanks of 27 gal, would make it a single place
> > airplane for most of us and a max pilot weight of 258 lbs. One of the
many
> > "loop holes" I guess of the Sport Pilot thing. Bob U.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Yep - I know the err...pilot. We had been looking at Fox's at about the same
time when I found mine here and he found his down in Texas (you!) and told
me he was going to fly it to Sun N Fun...He sent me the picture the day it
happened and after calling me - I could not believe it!!
First, he punched in bad coordinates and relied solely on his GPS, and then
he saw this field w/mud in the middle-third and then he landed not short,
not long, but right into the mud and flipped her end over end!! He's a nice
guy, I've flown into his strip a few times now (he has a Super Cub now), but
poor, poor judgement on his part!
Oh well...There are those that learn the hard way ;-)
Andrew
do not archive
>From: "Len Shorethose" <toolowterrain@gmail.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Broken Fox
>Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 14:28:16 -0500
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Len Shorethose"
><toolowterrain@gmail.com>
>
>Yes it was one and the same... N704LS... I was the builder but not the guy
>that crashed it. I had sold it the day prior!
>It wasn't a ground loop but a landing in mud followed by a nose over with a
>prop strike. Ended up inverted. Poor judgment on the pilot's part for
>landing on a muddy grass strip.
>
>It was just up recently on eBay but didn't sell.
>
>Len Shorethose
>
>do not archive
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Matthaey"
><spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 1:31 PM
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Broken Fox
>
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey"
>><spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
>>
>>It wouldn't happen to have been ground-looped sometimes last year in
>>Florida, would it?
>>
>>Andrew
>>
>>do not archive
>>
>>
>>>From: "spudnuts" <martan@cstone.net>
>>>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: Kitfox-List: Broken Fox
>>>Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 06:32:08 -0700
>>>
>>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "spudnuts" <martan@cstone.net>
>>>
>>>I am thinking of buying a used series V that was ground looped (it ended
>>>up inverted on a grass strip). The tail was crunched a little, the prop
>>>was broken and some fabric torn, but the repairs look pretty good from
>>>the pictures (I have not seen it in person yet). It has a fresh annual
>>>(july) I am planning on making a visit soon, any particular things I
>>>should look for? I know thats a really broad question, but any help is
>>>appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53031#53031
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
>>
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>>
>>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>>http://wiki.matronics.com
>>
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>http://wiki.matronics.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "spudnuts" <martan@cstone.net>
Yeah, that plane is getting famous now isn't it ? ha. I am going to take a long
drive and go look at it this weekend. Probably too good to be true. I don't
know if thats so or if the owner just wants to get rid of it. It still has a few
things wrong, cosmetic so he says, only one way to find out I guess. Len gave
me some great info, talked to Cliff too (the guy that flipped it), but I figure
only a hands on will tell me what I need to know. Like I said, any suggestions
on what to look for appreciated. Here is the infamous pic of it:
http://www.eaa1257.org/cliff.jpg
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53189#53189
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| Subject: | KitFox Model 7A for sale 760-728-2450 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Robert Harris" <taxman_robert@hotmail.com>
I commute to work daily in a Model V Outback that Ken built and love it. He
sold his model V to me so he could build a Model 7A Kitfox. Unfortunately
his knees are giving him problems so he is selling his 7A. Ken is a
professional builder and one heck of a nice guy.
I'd like to help Ken because if it wasn't for him I'd still be sitting in
traffic instead of Flying to WORK.
He helped me get my pilot License and helped me to buy his Model V.
If you have any doubts about building and or flying give Ken a call and he
may be able to help you too.
Robert Harris
N200KF Model V 0200
San Diego
>I've seen this plane and it is really nice. Built by a professional builder
>and priced way below value. Here is the barnstormers ad.This newest model
>has extended bagage and is complete firewall back. It is about 70% built
>with many accs. including factory wings. Will sell well below new cost.
>Asking $19,500 obo. Please phone Ken Schooley 760-728-2450.
>
>
>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: RV9-List: sales/use tax RV 9 |
And another good reason why all aircraft should be held inside a
Delaware corporate entity.
There is no good reason to register the aircraft in the domicile that is
sits.
Stephen D. Streiker
steve@streiker.com
M: +1 323 252 0277
________________________________
From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
kerrjohna@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:57 AM
Subject: RV9-List: sales/use tax RV 9
recent threads discussed state use/sales tax on homebuilt aircraft.
obviously utah monitors the faa registration. tax plus interest from
the date registration was issued has been assessed. they have assigned a
fair market value of $56,900 on the RV9. The tax levied is $3470.90.
it probably is not worth haggling over the fmv but raising the date from
which interest is assessed might be worth a few pennies.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I see some worry points in the picture:
Bent left lift and jury struts means some possible
wing damage.
An awful lot of up elevator would seem to indicate
broken flight control linkage.
Of course there is the stuff you all expected with the
engine/prop damage. But I just thought whoever gets
it should look closely for hidden damage.
Kurt S.
--- spudnuts <martan@cstone.net> wrote:
> Yeah, that plane is getting famous now isn't it ?
> ha. I am going to take a long drive and go look at
> it this weekend. Probably too good to be true. I
> don't know if thats so or if the owner just wants to
> get rid of it. It still has a few things wrong,
> cosmetic so he says, only one way to find out I
> guess. Len gave me some great info, talked to Cliff
> too (the guy that flipped it), but I figure only a
> hands on will tell me what I need to know. Like I
> said, any suggestions on what to look for
> appreciated. Here is the infamous pic of it:
> http://www.eaa1257.org/cliff.jpg
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53189#53189
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
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>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
I hope that is the wash out I see on the right wing. The support struts
appear to be intact. I assume you remove the wings before you flip it? Good
luck! Jeff Classic IV
----- Original Message -----
From: "spudnuts" <martan@cstone.net>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:49 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Broken Fox
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "spudnuts" <martan@cstone.net>
>
> Yeah, that plane is getting famous now isn't it ? ha. I am going to take
> a long drive and go look at it this weekend. Probably too good to be true.
> I don't know if thats so or if the owner just wants to get rid of it. It
> still has a few things wrong, cosmetic so he says, only one way to find
> out I guess. Len gave me some great info, talked to Cliff too (the guy
> that flipped it), but I figure only a hands on will tell me what I need to
> know. Like I said, any suggestions on what to look for appreciated. Here
> is the infamous pic of it:
> http://www.eaa1257.org/cliff.jpg
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53189#53189
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I meant by the builder's manual. The distance from
the (undamaged) tailpost to each wing tip should be
equal, the wing washout measured on a leveled plane,
the dihedrial, sweep, etc. If anything hidden got
bent, you might find it this way.
Kurt S.
--- spudnuts <martan@cstone.net> wrote:
> Forgive my obvious ignorance, but what is a 'by the
> book' rigging check? Where do I get this book?
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| Subject: | Re: 912ULS - Oil in Exhaust |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
John,
Sounds like a good time for a compression check....
Stuck ring? Valve guide?
Some might give it a good hard run and see if this
brings it back to normal. Just sitting is hard on
planes.
Kurt S.
--- John Banes <JohnBanes@Adelphia.net> wrote:
> The engine had not been operated for 5 weeks.
> Temperatures in the hangar
> during this period were in excess of 100 deg F. It
> was hand propped,
> several revolutions, until the oil level in the
> external reservoir was more
> than half way up the dipstick. Since the battery
> was low the initial start
> was attempted with the choke full on. The engine
> went through a couple of
> revolutions and stopped when it tried to fire. The
> next attempt ended with
> a single backfire after two of three revolutions.
> So the choke was closed
> and the starter was engaged and the engine rotated
> several times, just
> enough for the oil pressure to register 70psig, but
> it did not start. The
> started was disengaged. Then the starter was
> engaged with the choke on and
> the engine fired and ran smoothly at 2000 RPM.
> There was just a trace of
> smoke. It did not seem to persist so it was
> attributed to excess fuel from
> the previous attempts to start the engine. The
> engine idled and responded
> to throttle inputs normally and taxiing was begun.
> Two to three minutes
> later there was a large amount of smoke coming out
> of the exhaust and oil
> started to collect on the left landing gear and lift
> strut. The engine was
> operated for another couple of minutes during the
> return to the hangar.
> Most of the mosquitoes had left the area by this
> time. After a total of 5
> minutes of operation the smoke stopped. The
> inspection after shutdown
> revealed the oil level in the tank to be at the full
> mark and the interior
> of the exhaust pipe was coated with oil.
> Subsequently the engine has been
> operated for more than two hours with no trace of
> smoke or oil.
>
> Does anyone know of a similar experience?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> John Banes
>
> S6 912S 225TT Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil 10W40
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| Subject: | small file Blank series V weight and balance |
I will try to attach a much smaller jpeg file that I found. Hope it comes
thru ok. I don't know much about changing formats. I edited the numbers off of
this one so you would have a blank one. I will also try the recommended way
to reduce files. thanks and Good Luck. An associated note said
" NOTE: it is recommended that flap deflection be limited to (unspecified)
notch on Series V tail draggers when operating at CG stations forward of 11.70
inch. The aircraft may not be able to achieve a three point attitude upon
landing at extreme forward CG stations with full flaps.
FLIGHT LOAD FACTOR FLAPS UP + 3.8g - 1.52g"
since our series 5 with 2.2 Eggenfellner subaru has electric trim I cannot
associate with notches of flaps.
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| Subject: | Re: 912ULS - Oil in Exhaust |
John
The oil reservoir in the kitfox is above the engine. The oil siphons into the
crankcase while sitting. Some oil also leaks past the rings and into the cylinder.
Pulling the prop through by hand before starting prevented hydraulic lock
but some oil made it to the exhaust manifold where it sputtered out the exhaust
during start up. The oil turned to smoke as the engine warmed up. No smoke
after that is a good sign. As Kurt said, a compression check is in order.
Jim Shumaker
> The engine had not been operated for 5 weeks.
> Temperatures in the hangar
> during this period were in excess of 100 deg F. It
> was hand propped,
> several revolutions, until the oil level in the
> external reservoir was more
> than half way up the dipstick. Since the battery
> was low the initial start
> was attempted with the choke full on. The engine
> went through a couple of
> revolutions and stopped when it tried to fire. The
> next attempt ended with
> a single backfire after two of three revolutions.
> So the choke was closed
> and the starter was engaged and the engine rotated
> several times, just
> enough for the oil pressure to register 70psig, but
> it did not start. The
> started was disengaged. Then the starter was
> engaged with the choke on and
> the engine fired and ran smoothly at 2000 RPM.
> There was just a trace of
> smoke. It did not seem to persist so it was
> attributed to excess fuel from
> the previous attempts to start the engine. The
> engine idled and responded
> to throttle inputs normally and taxiing was begun.
> Two to three minutes
> later there was a large amount of smoke coming out
> of the exhaust and oil
> started to collect on the left landing gear and lift
> strut. The engine was
> operated for another couple of minutes during the
> return to the hangar.
> Most of the mosquitoes had left the area by this
> time. After a total of 5
> minutes of operation the smoke stopped. The
> inspection after shutdown
> revealed the oil level in the tank to be at the full
> mark and the interior
> of the exhaust pipe was coated with oil.
> Subsequently the engine has been
> operated for more than two hours with no trace of
> smoke or oil.
>
> Does anyone know of a similar experience?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> John Banes
>
> S6 912S 225TT Pennzoil Motorcycle Oil 10W40
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel caution |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Thanks for this Larry. Going into my files.
Kurt S.
Do not archive
--- Larry Martin <CrownLJ@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> NTSB Identification: ANC99LA101 .
> The docket is stored in the Docket Management System
> (DMS). Please contact Records Management Division
> 14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
> Accident occurred Saturday, July 31, 1999 in
> ANCHORAGE, AK
> Probable Cause Approval Date: 1/18/2001
> Aircraft: Haering Avid Flyer AVID FLYER,
> registration: N511AF
> Injuries: 1 Uninjured.
> The solo commercial pilot reported that during
> cruise flight the engine began to run rough, and
> lose power. He noted that for a short time, he was
> able to restore partial engine power by actuating
> the engine fuel primer. While attempting to land on
> a small, private airstrip, all engine power was
> lost, and the airplane collided with a stand of
> trees. An examination of the interior of the
> fiberglass fuel tanks revealed delamination of the
> resin material within the tank, and both main fuel
> tank outlets were blocked with a brown, plastic-like
> material. Examination of both in-line wing fuel
> filters revealed the presence of the same material
> found in the main fuel tanks. The pilot/owner stated
> that in the past, he had operated the airplane for
> about 40 hours using an alcohol based fuel. AVID
> Aircraft service letter number 03, dated 5/91,
> covering all AVID Flyer models, stipulates that a
> placard be placed near the filler neck stating, in
> part: 'NO ALCOHOL BLENDED FUELS. These fuels may
> cause deterioration of the fiberglass tanks or
> carburetor parts.' The pilot/owner stated that since
> he has owned the airplane, he has not received any
> warnings or directives concerning the use of alcohol
> based fuels directly from the manufacture of the
> airplane kit, AVID Aircraft, Inc.
>
> The National Transportation Safety Board determines
> the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows:
>
> A loss of engine power due to blockage of the
> airplane fuel system, a delamination of the
> fiberglass fuel tanks, and the usage of an improper
> fuel. A factor associated with the accident was the
> failure of the kit manufacturer to inform the
> pilot/owner against the usage of alcohol based fuel.
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| Subject: | Re: small file Blank series V weight and balance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
What was the source of the note? First I have seen
that.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- AMuller589@aol.com wrote:
...... An associated note said
>
> " NOTE: it is recommended that flap deflection be
> limited to (unspecified)
> notch on Series V tail draggers when operating at CG
> stations forward of 11.70
> inch. The aircraft may not be able to achieve a
> three point attitude upon
> landing at extreme forward CG stations with full
> flaps......
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| Subject: | Re: Carburetor Troubles on 912Ul |
Jimmie,
The springs on each side of the carbs were provided by SkyStar as part
of the firewall kit. The one spring on the top of the carbs is a Rotax
provided part and can be ordered through Lockwood.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Jimmie Blackwell wrote:
> They are the stiffer ones and I think are impregnated with kevlar.
>
> I did just discover one possible cause. My carb has two retaining
> springs, one on each side. They do not have the spring on top of the
> carb that attaches to the balancing tube. Do you have this top spring?
>
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| Subject: | Re: Carburetor Troubles on 912Ul |
Hope to have two top springs plus new rubber flange in the mail tomorrow. Sure
hope that fixes the problem.
Thanks John
Jimmie
John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net> wrote:
Jimmie,
The springs on each side of the carbs were provided by SkyStar as part of the firewall
kit. The one spring on the top of the carbs is a Rotax provided part
and can be ordered through Lockwood.
-- John King Warrenton, VA
Jimmie Blackwell wrote:
They are the stiffer ones and I think are impregnated with kevlar.
I did just discover one possible cause. My carb has two retaining springs, one
on each side. They do not have the spring on top of the carb that attaches
to the balancing tube. Do you have this top spring?
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Bill Hammond <kitfox@itsys3.com>
Aircraft Spruce sells a mounting bracket especially sized for the
PC680. It is reasonalbly priced, gets a secure grip on the
battery, and can be mounted with adel clamps pretty easily. I
have a picture of just such an installation in my Series 6 at
http://www.itsys3.com/kitfox/images/annual05/NewBatt.JPG
Bill Hammond
Parker, CO
Cudnohufsky's wrote:
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> List,
> Installing an Odessey PC680 in my fox forward of the firewall, can I
> simply construct a tray to hold it or does it need to be a full box?
> Lloyd
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