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1. 03:23 AM - Re: small file Blank series V weight and balance (AMuller589@aol.com)
2. 03:54 AM - Re: small file Blank series V weight and balance (AMuller589@aol.com)
3. 05:50 AM - Kitfox III-A W&B, Preflight report (Noel Loveys)
4. 06:46 AM - Re: Kitfox III-A W&B, Preflight report (kirk hull)
5. 07:53 AM - Re: Kitfox III-A W&B, Preflight report (Steve Wilson)
6. 08:02 AM - Re: sales/use tax RV 9 (wingnut)
7. 08:26 AM - Re: file resizing (Rex)
8. 09:14 AM - Re: sales/use tax RV 9 (darinh)
9. 09:25 AM - Re: Re: sales/use tax RV 9 (Don Smythe)
10. 10:33 AM - Re: Re: Carburetor Troubles on 912Ul (Lynn Matteson)
11. 10:47 AM - Re: Re: sales/use tax RV 9 (Fox5flyer)
12. 10:49 AM - Re: Re: sales/use tax RV 9 (John Disher)
13. 11:24 AM - Re: sales/use tax RV 9 (wingnut)
14. 12:01 PM - Kitfox Awards (jdmcbean)
15. 12:21 PM - Re: Re: sales/use tax RV 9 (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
16. 01:28 PM - Re: Kitfox Awards (debrun26@juno.com)
17. 02:38 PM - Re: Carburetor Troubles on 912Ul (Grant Fluent)
18. 04:11 PM - Firewall Dimensions (Stan Bearup)
19. 04:45 PM - Re: Kitfox Awards (Andrew Matthaey)
20. 05:15 PM - Re: Kitfox Awards (jdmcbean)
21. 05:15 PM - Re: Firewall Dimensions (jdmcbean)
22. 05:18 PM - Re: Carburetor Troubles on 912Ul (jeff puls)
23. 06:18 PM - Re: small file Blank series V weight and balance (kurt schrader)
24. 06:21 PM - Re: small file Blank series V weight and balance (kurt schrader)
25. 06:32 PM - Lost Carbs (Ed Grasso)
26. 07:52 PM - Re: Re: sales/use tax RV 9 (kurt schrader)
27. 08:12 PM - Re: Re: Broken Fox (Cudnohufsky's)
28. 08:37 PM - Re: Firewall Dimensions (A Smith)
29. 08:49 PM - Re: Carburetor Troubles on 912Ul (Grant Fluent)
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Subject: | Re: small file Blank series V weight and balance |
the source of this note is page 2-4 "OWNERS MANUAL AND PILOTS OPERATING
HANDBOOK SERIES V" dated July 2004
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Subject: | Re: small file Blank series V weight and balance |
Attached is subject page from SERIES V POH page 2-4. I found a way to reduce
it from 2.4mb to 266.4KB. Hope I can figure a way to repeat it for future
X-MSN.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
What was the source of the note? First I have seen
that.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- AMuller589@aol.com wrote:
...... An associated note said
>
> " NOTE: it is recommended that flap deflection be
> limited to (unspecified)
> notch on Series V tail draggers when operating at CG
> stations forward of 11.70
> inch. The aircraft may not be able to achieve a
> three point attitude upon
> landing at extreme forward CG stations with full
> flaps......
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Subject: | Kitfox III-A W&B, Preflight report |
I did up this X-Cell file to make flight planning a little easier... it
works for my plane on Aerocet 1100 straight floats.
to use this calculator; First unprotect the sheet and change cell [B10]
to
the magnetic variation for your part of the world, [C16] and [D16] to
your
empty weight and CG. Then re-protect the sheet to avoid making input
errors.
When you are ready to fly all you have to do is input the correct data,
in
black bold in cells [B4 to B12] except [B10] the excel does the rest for
you.
To update all the Performance data change the contents of E29 and E30 (
Launch location and altitude) then excel will calculate the cross wind
effects and pressure altitude.
the sheet is easily changed for conventional and tri gear too.
I usually print one copy to staple to a flight itinerary and up load a
copy
to my PDA for reference. Note: the cell protection doesn't work on the
PDA... The advantages of using the PDA are in case I take on more fuel
or
weight at a remote location.
Fly Fish, Fly Floats, Fly Safe!
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
AMuller589@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: small file Blank series V weight and balance
Attached is subject page from SERIES V POH page 2-4. I found a way to
reduce
it from 2.4mb to 266.4KB. Hope I can figure a way to repeat it for
future
X-MSN.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
What was the source of the note? First I have seen
that.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- AMuller589@aol.com wrote:
...... An associated note said
>
> " NOTE: it is recommended that flap deflection be
> limited to (unspecified)
> notch on Series V tail draggers when operating at CG
> stations forward of 11.70
> inch. The aircraft may not be able to achieve a
> three point attitude upon
> landing at extreme forward CG stations with full
> flaps......
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Subject: | Kitfox III-A W&B, Preflight report |
MessageSounds like a usefull file but I did not get the attachment for some
reason
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:48 AM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox III-A W&B, Preflight report
I did up this X-Cell file to make flight planning a little easier... it
works for my plane on Aerocet 1100 straight floats.
to use this calculator; First unprotect the sheet and change cell [B10]
to the magnetic variation for your part of the world, [C16] and [D16] to
your empty weight and CG. Then re-protect the sheet to avoid making input
errors.
When you are ready to fly all you have to do is input the correct data, in
black bold in cells [B4 to B12] except [B10] the excel does the rest for
you.
To update all the Performance data change the contents of E29 and E30 (
Launch location and altitude) then excel will calculate the cross wind
effects and pressure altitude.
the sheet is easily changed for conventional and tri gear too.
I usually print one copy to staple to a flight itinerary and up load a
copy to my PDA for reference. Note: the cell protection doesn't work on the
PDA... The advantages of using the PDA are in case I take on more fuel or
weight at a remote location.
Fly Fish, Fly Floats, Fly Safe!
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
AMuller589@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:23 AM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: small file Blank series V weight and balance
Attached is subject page from SERIES V POH page 2-4. I found a way to
reduce it from 2.4mb to 266.4KB. Hope I can figure a way to repeat it for
future X-MSN.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
What was the source of the note? First I have seen
that.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- AMuller589@aol.com wrote:
...... An associated note said
>
> " NOTE: it is recommended that flap deflection be
> limited to (unspecified)
> notch on Series V tail draggers when operating at CG
> stations forward of 11.70
> inch. The aircraft may not be able to achieve a
> three point attitude upon
> landing at extreme forward CG stations with full
> flaps......
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Subject: | Re: Kitfox III-A W&B, Preflight report |
MessageThis info would be interesting to review, but there was no
attachment.
Steve Wilson
----- Original Message -----
From: Noel Loveys
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:47 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox III-A W&B, Preflight report
I did up this X-Cell file to make flight planning a little easier...
it works for my plane on Aerocet 1100 straight floats.
to use this calculator; First unprotect the sheet and change cell
[B10] to the magnetic variation for your part of the world, [C16] and
[D16] to your empty weight and CG. Then re-protect the sheet to avoid
making input errors.
When you are ready to fly all you have to do is input the correct
data, in black bold in cells [B4 to B12] except [B10] the excel does the
rest for you.
To update all the Performance data change the contents of E29 and E30
( Launch location and altitude) then excel will calculate the cross wind
effects and pressure altitude.
the sheet is easily changed for conventional and tri gear too.
I usually print one copy to staple to a flight itinerary and up load a
copy to my PDA for reference. Note: the cell protection doesn't work on
the PDA... The advantages of using the PDA are in case I take on more
fuel or weight at a remote location.
Fly Fish, Fly Floats, Fly Safe!
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
AMuller589@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:23 AM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: small file Blank series V weight and
balance
Attached is subject page from SERIES V POH page 2-4. I found a way
to reduce it from 2.4mb to 266.4KB. Hope I can figure a way to repeat it
for future X-MSN.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
What was the source of the note? First I have seen
that.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- AMuller589@aol.com wrote:
...... An associated note said
>
> " NOTE: it is recommended that flap deflection be
> limited to (unspecified)
> notch on Series V tail draggers when operating at CG
> stations forward of 11.70
> inch. The aircraft may not be able to achieve a
> three point attitude upon
> landing at extreme forward CG stations with full
> flaps......
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Subject: | Re: sales/use tax RV 9 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
What!? You have to pay 6%/year just to own your airplane? Yikes. My state (SC)
has a personal property tax but it never occured to me that it might cover airplanes.
I'll sell the damn thing and switch to an ultralight before I pay them
6% though.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53354#53354
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Subject: | Re: file resizing |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net>
Bob,
If it is a .doc file then your best choice might be to compress it
using something like WinZip.
www.winzip.com
I think generally the term "resized" is reserved for image files and
"compressed" is used for most other file types. The "zipped" file will
result in about 1/3 the original size after compression and will require
the recipient to have WinZip or another compatible utility to open it
unless it is made into a self extracting file. The self extracting file
is a little larger than 1/3rd the original and does not require any
program to open it. Whichever you think is best for your needs.
If you want to do it yourself you can try it out for free OR if you
prefer send the file to me and I'll compress it for you. I could also
make it available as a link so that interested folks can download it
however they like and it wouldn't cause any problems for us dial-up
users. Currently I'm using a high speed connection or I would hesitate
offering my help.
Note for all: JPEG files (photos) at any resolution are already about as
small as they can get. WinZip can not make them smaller so don't bother
trying. However, for simple viewing purposes all photos should be
resized using a photo editing program and MicroSoft Image Resizer is
great for this purpose. Here's a link to get it:
http://thumly.com/mirw.html
Rex - hefferans@gmail.com
Colorado M2/582
Bob Unternaehrer wrote:
> I can do "images" in jpg and others but not the ".doc" format. Bob U.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Fox5flyer <mailto:morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com <mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 07, 2006 10:35 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Kitfox-List: file resizing
>
> Go to Microsoft and search Image Resizer.
> Deke
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Bob Unternaehrer <mailto:shilocom@mcmsys.com>
> *To:* Kitfox List <mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 07, 2006 10:07 AM
> *Subject:* Kitfox-List: file resizing
>
> Could someone please post the method for resizing a ".doc"
> file again. I just looked at the W&B sheet that was posted
> for a series 5 and it came out 1028.5lbs. I'd like to have it
> available in blank form, but this file was over the 2 meg
> limit and is taking up unnecessary space. It seems to me that
> a separate downloadable program was required, or was it
> something already in the "windows' operating system. I'm sure
> glad the list allows attachments now and don't want to violate
> the rules. My "picture program" has an easy file converter
> for JPG files that are stored withing it, but nothing outside
> of it.
>
> Blue Skies
> Bob Unternaehrer
> shilocom@mcmsys.com <mailto:shilocom@mcmsys.com>
>
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Subject: | Re: sales/use tax RV 9 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
Wingnut,
The sales and use tax is a one time deal in Utah and many other states. Utah happens
to be at 6% to 6.5% depending on the county in which the airplane is registered.
Property tax however, is a yearly deal and it also depends on the county
where the airplane is registered. Where I live it is .04%, so a fox will
cost around $75 to $100 per year to register with the state...more than I want
to pay but not that bad. The sales tax thing kinda sucks though since many
surrounding states such as Montana and Nevada don't have sales tax at all.
Darin
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53388#53388
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Subject: | Re: sales/use tax RV 9 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Read and weep
http://www.sctax.org/Publications/mov2sc.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:01 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: sales/use tax RV 9
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
>
> What!? You have to pay 6%/year just to own your airplane? Yikes. My state
> (SC) has a personal property tax but it never occured to me that it might
> cover airplanes. I'll sell the damn thing and switch to an ultralight
> before I pay them 6% though.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53354#53354
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Carburetor Troubles on 912Ul |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Hey Jimmie, are you any closer to thinking about the Jabiru? Not to
make light of your situation, but with only ONE carb to fall off......:
)
Lynn
Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
On Friday, August 4, 2006, at 03:07 PM, Jimmie Blackwell wrote:
> When you say, "aftermarket", do you mean a rubber flange that is
> different from the ones that Rotax sells and has the 8mm spacer or a
> flange that someone other than Rotax sells? If someone other than
> Rotax sells them they may be a lot cheaper.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Jimmie
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Subject: | Re: sales/use tax RV 9 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Michigan annual registration tax is 1 percent of the gross weight or $15.50
for a model 5 with 1550 gross. This pays for the little sticker they make
you stick on the tail. I don't mind paying it, but good things never seem
to last very long.
Sales and use tax is one time payment of 6 percent of whatever you tell them
the airplane is worth.
Deke
> Wingnut,
>
> The sales and use tax is a one time deal in Utah and many other states.
Utah happens to be at 6% to 6.5% depending on the county in which the
airplane is registered. Property tax however, is a yearly deal and it also
depends on the county where the airplane is registered. Where I live it is
.04%, so a fox will cost around $75 to $100 per year to register with the
state...more than I want to pay but not that bad. The sales tax thing kinda
sucks though since many surrounding states such as Montana and Nevada don't
have sales tax at all.
>
> Darin
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53388#53388
>
>
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Subject: | Re: sales/use tax RV 9 |
South Carolina will put tears in your eyes when you find out how they val
ue
your plane and if the city that you live in has a city tax, like Summervi
lle
does, they want that too. When I licensed my Kitfox the Auditors Office
called and wanted a value because they had no book, (They raped me with t
he
book on my Bonanza.) I told them it had no value because the legal
definition of value is what a willing buyer and seller will exchange an
item for and I wasn't ever planning on selling because of liability issue
s.
We batted all that around for a bit and of course we all know that's a
losing battle, but I ended it with the statement that I realize that
everybody needs to pay their fair share, but if you get carried away, I'l
l
put both of them in a Delaware Corporqation and you'll never see a cent.
Well, when trhe tax notices came out they wanted $1700 a year for my 1957
H35 Bonanza and about $950 for the Kitfox. That was 1995 and I have since
paid about $150 a year for taxes and administration charges for a Delawar
e
Corporation which now owns both planes with A Dover, Delaware address, an
d I
own the Corporation. It only cost about $300 to set up the Corporation.
-------Original Message-------
From: Don Smythe
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: sales/use tax RV 9
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Read and weep
http://www.sctax.org/Publications/mov2sc.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:01 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: sales/use tax RV 9
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
>
> What!? You have to pay 6%/year just to own your airplane? Yikes. My sta
te
> (SC) has a personal property tax but it never occured to me that it mig
ht
> cover airplanes. I'll sell the damn thing and switch to an ultralight
> before I pay them 6% though.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53354#53354
>
>
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Subject: | Re: sales/use tax RV 9 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
> I ended it with the statement that I realize that everybody needs to pay their
fair share, but if you get carried away, I'll put both of them in a Delaware
Corporqation and you'll never see a cent. Well, when trhe tax notices came out
they wanted $1700 a year for my 1957 H35 Bonanza and about $950 for the Kitfox.
That was 1995 and I have since paid about $150 a year for taxes and administration
charges for a Delaware Corporation which now owns both planes with A
Dover, Delaware address, and I own the Corporation. It only cost about $300 to
set up the Corporation.
Now there's the right answer. It's unbelievable to me that I should pay $950/year
in taxes for the privilege of owning a toy that I park in my back yard and
never touches a state road.
Glad I misunderstood the original post in this thread.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53435#53435
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
We also have another award winner ... Congrats to Bruce Hoisington of Bend
Oregon... received the Champion Award at the Arlington Airshow.
Champion
Kit Fox, Series 7 - 2005
N#: 851BH
Owner: Bruce Hoisington
Address: Bend, OR
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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Subject: | Re: sales/use tax RV 9 |
No, this is a one-time "sales" tax levy.
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut"
>
> What!? You have to pay 6%/year just to own your airplane? Yikes. My state (SC)
> has a personal property tax but it never occured to me that it might cover
> airplanes. I'll sell the damn thing and switch to an ultralight before I pay
> them 6% though.
>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53354#53354
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<DIV>No, this is a one-time "sales" tax levy.</DIV>
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Subject: | Re: Kitfox Awards |
Where could I find a storage pod for a KF5 and are they easy to attach?
Layne
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Subject: | Re: Carburetor Troubles on 912Ul |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Jimmie,
I posted a question and an idea to the list a while
back concerning the 912 carbs shaking off but got
little feedback. I had the idea of making a pair of
brackets that would bolt to the top of the cylinder
heads on each side that go rearward bending under the
carb bowl and back up to a ring that would support the
back of the carburetor. These brackets would bolt to
the spare threaded hole on the top of each cylinder
head. As far as I can tell, there is nothing that this
threaded hole will be used for on my Classic IV (still
building). For as little weight as they would add, it
would sure give me piece of mind that the carbs arent
going to fall off after takeoff. I still plan on
using Clint Bazzills method of startup and shutdown.
Has anyone else thought of doing this or has done
this?
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
--- Jimmie Blackwell <jimmieblackwell@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> Hope to have two top springs plus new rubber flange
> in the mail tomorrow. Sure hope that fixes the
> problem.
>
> Thanks John
>
> Jimmie
>
> John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net> wrote:
> Jimmie,
>
> The springs on each side of the carbs were provided
> by SkyStar as part of the firewall kit. The one
> spring on the top of the carbs is a Rotax provided
> part and can be ordered through Lockwood.
>
> -- John King Warrenton, VA
>
> Jimmie Blackwell wrote:
> They are the stiffer ones and I think are
> impregnated with kevlar.
>
> I did just discover one possible cause. My carb
> has two retaining springs, one on each side. They
> do not have the spring on top of the carb that
> attaches to the balancing tube. Do you have this
> top spring?
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Firewall Dimensions |
I am looking for the firewall dimensions of the Kitfox series 5, 6, or
7. I would like to determine if the Lycoming cowling for the later
Kitfox will come somewhat close to being able to work on my Highlander
that I am currently building. I am looking into installing a 125 HP
Franklin 4A-235 engine and will need a wider cowling than the one
supplied with my kit. I have tried contacting the new Kitfox owners, but
so far, have not had success with a return message from them concerning
the information that I am looking for. Any help and information would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot.
Stan Bearup
American Falls, Idaho
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Subject: | Re: Kitfox Awards |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Is it official yet?? ;-0
Andrew
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>From: "debrun26@juno.com" <debrun26@juno.com>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Awards
>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 20:25:34 GMT
>
>Where could I find a storage pod for a KF5 and are they easy to attach?
>Layne
>
>
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We can make them and yes they are easy to attach
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
debrun26@juno.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Awards
Where could I find a storage pod for a KF5 and are they easy to attach?
Layne
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Subject: | Firewall Dimensions |
Stan,
Yes you have heard from us I was trying to get the cowling
dimensions and pics but havent have a chance
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stan Bearup
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:10 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Firewall Dimensions
I am looking for the firewall dimensions of the Kitfox series 5, 6, or 7. I
would like to determine if the Lycoming cowling for the later Kitfox will
come somewhat close to being able to work on my Highlander that I am
currently building. I am looking into installing a 125 HP Franklin 4A-235
engine and will need a wider cowling than the one supplied with my kit. I
have tried contacting the new Kitfox owners, but so far, have not had
success with a return message from them concerning the information that I am
looking for. Any help and information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a
lot.
Stan Bearup
American Falls, Idaho
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Subject: | Re: Carburetor Troubles on 912Ul |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Grant,
Stick with the orignal design of the Rotax. Something else is going on. Is
your prop properly balanced and pitched? Are you using the latest sockets
(check the part numbers)? Have you talked to a Rotax tech? Jeff Classic IV
912UL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Fluent" <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Carburetor Troubles on 912Ul
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Jimmie,
> I posted a question and an idea to the list a while
> back concerning the 912 carbs shaking off but got
> little feedback. I had the idea of making a pair of
> brackets that would bolt to the top of the cylinder
> heads on each side that go rearward bending under the
> carb bowl and back up to a ring that would support the
> back of the carburetor. These brackets would bolt to
> the spare threaded hole on the top of each cylinder
> head. As far as I can tell, there is nothing that this
> threaded hole will be used for on my Classic IV (still
> building). For as little weight as they would add, it
> would sure give me piece of mind that the carbs aren't
> going to fall off after takeoff. I still plan on
> using Clint Bazzill's method of startup and shutdown.
> Has anyone else thought of doing this or has done
> this?
> Grant Fluent
> Newcastle, NE
> Classic IV 912S
>
>
> --- Jimmie Blackwell <jimmieblackwell@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hope to have two top springs plus new rubber flange
>> in the mail tomorrow. Sure hope that fixes the
>> problem.
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>> Jimmie
>>
>> John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net> wrote:
>> Jimmie,
>>
>> The springs on each side of the carbs were provided
>> by SkyStar as part of the firewall kit. The one
>> spring on the top of the carbs is a Rotax provided
>> part and can be ordered through Lockwood.
>>
>> -- John King Warrenton, VA
>>
>> Jimmie Blackwell wrote:
>> They are the stiffer ones and I think are
>> impregnated with kevlar.
>>
>> I did just discover one possible cause. My carb
>> has two retaining springs, one on each side. They
>> do not have the spring on top of the carb that
>> attaches to the balancing tube. Do you have this
>> top spring?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: small file Blank series V weight and balance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I can confirm it is true on my S-5 for over 50% flaps
and FWD CG. I run out of trim at around 60 knots and
no flaps. Still can get enough elevator until 1/2
flaps. After that it is difficult to get the tail
down with FWD CG. Just never saw it in a note before.
Kurt S.
--- AMuller589@aol.com wrote:
> Attached is subject page from SERIES V POH page 2-4.
> I found a way to reduce
> it from 2.4mb to 266.4KB. Hope I can figure a way to
> repeat it for future
> X-MSN.
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> What was the source of the note? First I have seen
> that.
>
> Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
>
> --- AMuller589@aol.com wrote:
>
> ...... An associated note said
> >
> > " NOTE: it is recommended that flap deflection be
> > limited to (unspecified)
> > notch on Series V tail draggers when operating at
> CG
> > stations forward of 11.70
> > inch. The aircraft may not be able to achieve a
> > three point attitude upon
> > landing at extreme forward CG stations with full
> > flaps......
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Subject: | Re: small file Blank series V weight and balance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Hummm. Didn't have it in my older copy I guess or I
think I would have remembered it. Mine is at the
hangar. I'll have to check it later to be sure.
Kurt S.
--- AMuller589@aol.com wrote:
> the source of this note is page 2-4 "OWNERS MANUAL
> AND PILOTS OPERATING HANDBOOK SERIES V" dated July 2004
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I've been seeing a lot of posts about carbs popping out. I had this problem
early on with my 912S. Here are some of the things I did to cure it.
1 Look on the sportflight site I posted some pics on how I setup my carb
springs (lower springs from hardware store)
2 Had slipper clutch installed by Lockwood.
3 Rough up carb inlet where they fit into sockets with scotchbrite.
4 Clean carb socket with acetone.
5 Don't over tighten the clamp I used washers for the 7mm gap.
6 Make sure your carbs are in sync I used a synchromate 2 I got from Bing
Agency you can contact them at 800-309-5808 much better than the dual vacuum
gauges also has a built in tach.
7 Use Clint's start procedure here is how I do it. He may correct me.
1 Don't use a primer close the throttle and crank 10 seconds with mags off
(you must have switches separate from the start switch) holding the
enrichiner out to prime.
2 Set throttle to a spot you know will idle 2000 and turn on mags and
start. If the engine does not start right up STOP and prime again or clear
flood by mags off throttle open and crank.
Also after your engine breaks in you will notice much improvement. You can
contact me at 610-564-0803 with any questions I will be happy to help. I
have not lost a carb in 225 hrs.
Ed Grasso
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Subject: | Re: sales/use tax RV 9 |
When KY tax people tried to say my old van was worth
$6000 and I said it was worth $4000, I found a
solution. I offered it to the tax lady for $5000 and
said then we could both make $1000 on it, if she was
right.... No sale. She lowered the value to $4000.
Ask the tax assesser what they would be willing to pay
you for your "home built" plane and see what happens.
Sales tax is probably going to be based upon what you
paid for the parts, but market value after that is a
point to argue.
Kurt S.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net>
Looking at the Pic it appears the right wing strut was flexed if not bent in
the incident judging by the condition of the fairing material and the jury
strut, I would ask if it was replaced or just straightened, If straightened
I would strongly consider replacing it (hard to know what they look like
under the fairing material). You will want to inspect the heim joints at the
outboard end of all the wing strut attach points for bending / stress. I
would be looking for dented or kinked tubing anywhere on the fuselage
especially where the tail section intersects the fuselage lattice, and the
top and bottom where the main longeron stringers intersect the large cluster
weld at the base of the baggage compartment area. The aft vertical tube in
the vertical fin is square tube and kinks very easily compared to round
tube, seeing it landed on it's tail I would be looking. Ask to remove the
seat, inspection panels, baggage bag, wing tips or anything else that will
afford you a good look inside the fabric. Take an eyeball down the aft
fuselage longerons, they should have a nice symmetrical bow in 2 directions
on the bottoms and in one on the tops, either way they should be symmetrical
and even from side to side, if not I would look a little deeper. Also be
looking at the motor mount and the tubing inboard of the firewall in that
area. All can be fixed but it takes time & money, I am rebuilding a 5 that
was ground looped, I will have 1 year into it this fall. Good luck
Lloyd
----- Original Message -----
From: "spudnuts" <martan@cstone.net>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 4:49 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Broken Fox
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "spudnuts" <martan@cstone.net>
>
> Yeah, that plane is getting famous now isn't it ? ha. I am going to take
> a long drive and go look at it this weekend. Probably too good to be true.
> I don't know if thats so or if the owner just wants to get rid of it. It
> still has a few things wrong, cosmetic so he says, only one way to find
> out I guess. Len gave me some great info, talked to Cliff too (the guy
> that flipped it), but I figure only a hands on will tell me what I need to
> know. Like I said, any suggestions on what to look for appreciated. Here
> is the infamous pic of it:
> http://www.eaa1257.org/cliff.jpg
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53189#53189
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Firewall Dimensions |
I have a Mod. 5 in MudLake. What demensions were you looking for?? Will
try to get them for you.
Albert
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Subject: | Re: Carburetor Troubles on 912Ul |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Jeff,
Thanks for your reply. My Classic IV is not flying
yet but I'm trying to plan ahead. With all of the
reports of carbs falling off, it will probably happen
to me too until I get everything fine tuned. What I
was planning on doing was making a simple bracket for
each side that would fasten to the clamp at the air
filters so the carb couldn't wiggle up and down in the
socket. I agree with you about sticking to original
designs. I feel that one of the main reasons people
have trouble losing the carbs is due to the swapped
manifolds not being a Rotax design. It's really too
bad that the engine mount requires the manifold
relocation. I have shortened my engine mount bushings
to the Skystar recommended length so hopefully that
should help. Also, the engine is new enough that it
came from the factory with the slipper clutch.
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
--- jeff puls <pulsair@mindspring.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff puls"
> <pulsair@mindspring.com>
>
> Grant,
> Stick with the orignal design of the Rotax.
> Something else is going on. Is
> your prop properly balanced and pitched? Are you
> using the latest sockets
> (check the part numbers)? Have you talked to a Rotax
> tech? Jeff Classic IV
> 912UL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grant Fluent" <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Carburetor Troubles on
> 912Ul
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent
> <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Jimmie,
> > I posted a question and an idea to the list a
> while
> > back concerning the 912 carbs shaking off but got
> > little feedback. I had the idea of making a pair
> of
> > brackets that would bolt to the top of the
> cylinder
> > heads on each side that go rearward bending under
> the
> > carb bowl and back up to a ring that would support
> the
> > back of the carburetor. These brackets would bolt
> to
> > the spare threaded hole on the top of each
> cylinder
> > head. As far as I can tell, there is nothing that
> this
> > threaded hole will be used for on my Classic IV
> (still
> > building). For as little weight as they would
> add, it
> > would sure give me piece of mind that the carbs
> aren't
> > going to fall off after takeoff. I still plan on
> > using Clint Bazzill's method of startup and
> shutdown.
> > Has anyone else thought of doing this or has done
> > this?
> > Grant Fluent
> > Newcastle, NE
> > Classic IV 912S
> >
> >
> > --- Jimmie Blackwell
> <jimmieblackwell@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hope to have two top springs plus new rubber
> flange
> >> in the mail tomorrow. Sure hope that fixes the
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> Thanks John
> >>
> >> Jimmie
> >>
> >> John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net> wrote:
> >> Jimmie,
> >>
> >> The springs on each side of the carbs were
> provided
> >> by SkyStar as part of the firewall kit. The one
> >> spring on the top of the carbs is a Rotax
> provided
> >> part and can be ordered through Lockwood.
> >>
> >> -- John King Warrenton, VA
> >>
> >> Jimmie Blackwell wrote:
> >> They are the stiffer ones and I think are
> >> impregnated with kevlar.
> >>
> >> I did just discover one possible cause. My
> carb
> >> has two retaining springs, one on each side.
> They
> >> do not have the spring on top of the carb that
> >> attaches to the balancing tube. Do you have this
> >> top spring?
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