Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Mon 08/28/06


Total Messages Posted: 36



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:15 AM - Re: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip (Bob Unternaehrer)
     2. 05:29 AM - Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts (Jose M. Toro)
     3. 05:41 AM - Re: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip (Bob Unternaehrer)
     4. 06:10 AM - model 3 tires (joe)
     5. 06:14 AM - Re:  (Dave Wahlquist)
     6. 06:57 AM - Re: The USA by air (wingnut)
     7. 07:02 AM - Re: Gas Caps Leakage (Floran Higgins)
     8. 07:25 AM - Re: model 3 tires (Dave)
     9. 07:28 AM - Re: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip (Dave)
    10. 07:54 AM - Simple Green question (Wayne Cahoon)
    11. 07:55 AM - Re: The USA by air (John Oakley)
    12. 08:46 AM - Re: Gas Caps Leakage (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
    13. 09:48 AM - Re: Gas Caps Leakage (clemwehner)
    14. 10:23 AM - Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts (Bob Unternaehrer)
    15. 10:29 AM - Amazing photo (Richard Rabbers)
    16. 10:42 AM - Re: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip (Bob Unternaehrer)
    17. 10:57 AM - 912 lubrication system question (wwillyard@AOL.COM)
    18. 11:15 AM - Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts (Jose M. Toro)
    19. 11:32 AM - Re: Simple Green question (flier)
    20. 03:26 PM - type poll (GONER752@AOL.COM)
    21. 04:23 PM - NSI EA81 Turbo Manual (Jim Crowder)
    22. 04:29 PM - Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts (Bob Unternaehrer)
    23. 04:40 PM - Re: 912 lubrication system question (kitfoxmike)
    24. 04:59 PM - Classic IV for sale (Don Smythe)
    25. 05:29 PM - Re: model 3 tires (john perry)
    26. 05:40 PM - Re: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip (John Anderson)
    27. 05:52 PM - Re: NSI EA81 Turbo Manual (John Anderson)
    28. 05:52 PM - kitfox makes landing on hiway (john perry)
    29. 06:30 PM - Re: model 3 tires (Dave)
    30. 07:16 PM - Re: Gas Caps Leakage (Clem Nichols)
    31. 07:22 PM - Re: model 3 tires (john perry)
    32. 08:18 PM - Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts (Rex)
    33. 08:29 PM - Re: Gas Caps Leakage (john perry)
    34. 08:59 PM - Re: Kitfox for sale (John Galt)
    35. 10:46 PM - Demo ride in So. California? (rudderdancer)
    36. 11:50 PM - Re: Gas Caps Leakage (John Anderson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:15:11 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
    Subject: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass
    strip --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com> Plug aerators do seem to work well but are scarce and costly in our area. Bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:41 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> > > Hi, > > I have 2 strips here. > One I cultivated and harrowed and seeded in fall and picked stones on every > walk down it . > Other one was in wheat with clover. In the fall, I ran the bush hog over it > and chopped it all up and then ran plug aeroator down it and overseeded and > the grass is good. > It is not as smooth as the one I first mentioned but it still better than > alot of grass strips and i get guys in with amphibs and they usualy comment > how smooth it is. . > > I cut with a finished mower with a roller on the back and it gets better > every year. Worst time is on a dry year and the roller has little impact > except in spring. > And it does not hurt to keep grass a bit longer like 2 to 3 inches and get > lot of mulch on it from clippings to shelter the ground from evaporation of > the soil. > > > Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:58 AM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass > strip > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> > > > > > >> they basically move the soil to the centre if the strip and then roll it > >> to contour the desired run off. > > > > > > Don't have to worry about a thaw in SC but runoff from rain is an issue. > > When they push the soil to the middle, do they scrape off the topsoil > > first? I was told that once you dig up top soil, it has to be discarded > > because the grass roots make it impossible to smooth out. > > > > > >> Once seeded they continue to roll and after about two years they are > >> perfect and useable year round > > > > > > So you couldn't use the field for two years? > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57250#57250 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:29:16 AM PST US
    From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> Hi All: "My Kitfox" new owner is currently performing a complete restoration. He already applied sand blasting to the fuselage, and the applied an epoxy primer and a polyurethane coat. It is in good shape. The wing lift struts however are a different story. When he attempted to remove the bracket that attachs the jury strut to the wing lift strut, he found that the strut was heavily corroded. He said I'm lucky to be alive. I flew this plane for the last time on December 2004, and then it was for one and a half year on my backyard, exposed. This rust may have developed during that time frame. I will never know. What really matters is that now I need a pair of Wing Lift Struts and Jury struts for a Kitfox II. I have some questions regarding my alternatives: - Could I adapt Model IV wing lift struts to a model II? - Could I get a pair of Model II wing lift struts and jury struts from John McBean/Kitfox LLC? - Do any of you have a pair of Model II wing lift struts in good shape for sale? Please not rust!!! Thanks for your support!!! Jos Toro __________________________________________________


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    Time: 05:41:52 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
    Subject: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass
    strip --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com> You will likely have a mess if you try disking sod first. Bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> > > If the field is usuable now I would do as little as possible but remove > rocks and fill in the holes if not alot. > If too many possbily follow Deke's reco and work it up. > If it got solid ground cover you wil have to disc it and cultivate and > harrow at least. > You might have to plough it first depending on how the disc works. > The more you work it , the more rocks you will be picking over the next year > or two. > > > Dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:15 PM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass > strip > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> > > > > > >> I guess they were just talking about grading your proposed runway ? > > > > > > That's correct. > > > > > >> How smooth or rough is your field now ? > > > > > > With the tundra tires on my kitfox now, I coul'd probably use it as is but > > I imagine that it would wear the airplane after a while and wouldn't be > > much fun. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57322#57322 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:10:40 AM PST US
    From: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
    Subject: model 3 tires
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us> Tractor supply has 20.00 x7.00 x8 tires for about $55.00 with knobs in 6 rows around the tire. about 150 / 200 total. is there an easy way to remove them? regards, Joe


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    Time: 06:14:47 AM PST US
    From: Dave Wahlquist <wahlquist@ics.uwex.edu>
    Subject:
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave Wahlquist <wahlquist@ics.uwex.edu> Model III 582 grey head tail wheel In parts being put back together. Dave Wahlquist age 46 Marshall WI Never been to Thailand LOL I think this covers all the recent polls.


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    Time: 06:57:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: The USA by air
    From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> Wow. That was awsome. I'm glad I asked. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57958#57958


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    Time: 07:02:06 AM PST US
    From: "Floran Higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net>
    Subject: Re: Gas Caps Leakage
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Floran Higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net> I also found that simple green will etch the windshield Floran H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 7:45 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > Simple Green is great for removing stains, bugs, grease, etc. However, > let > me warn you. That stuff is incredibly corrosive. Spray a little on a > camlock and watch what happens to it in a couple days. So if you decide > to > use the stuff, just ensure you keep it away from metal parts, or give them > a > good rinse when you're finished. > Deke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:20 PM > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net> >> >> Simple Green works the best and will take the stains right off. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of >> mdps_mc@swoca.net >> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:44 PM >> To: Kitfox >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage >> >> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: mdps_mc@swoca.net >> >> There was someone that said a mixture of diet mountian dew and I think > maybe >> baking soda. Sounds a bit strange but I never tried it. This comment was >> made on this list. >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "George Wells@adelphia.net" <georgewells@adelphia.net> >> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:17:38 >> To:kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage >> >> On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 5, when the tanks are >> topped off the caps seep staining the wing with gas. I have tried new >> caps >> but they still seep. Does anyone have a solution for this ?? >> Also what is good to clean the stain? I have tried all kinds of cleaners. >> ---------------- >> This message has been scanned for Viruses and cleared by MailMarshal at >> SWOCA. >> ---------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 07:25:32 AM PST US
    From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: model 3 tires
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> Why buy knobbies when you can get the real tire for I think 40$ Ask John McBean or search for MIPPI Ultralights in Mich. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 9:19 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: model 3 tires > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us> > > Tractor supply has 20.00 x7.00 x8 tires for about $55.00 with knobs in 6 > rows around the tire. about 150 / 200 total. is there an easy way to > remove them? > > regards, > > Joe > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:28:07 AM PST US
    From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass
    strip --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> depends on the disc and soil. Like I said I would do as little as possible and try to rule out disc or ploughing if possible. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:51 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" > <shilocom@mcmsys.com> > > You will likely have a mess if you try disking sod first. Bob U. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice > grass strip > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> >> >> If the field is usuable now I would do as little as possible but remove >> rocks and fill in the holes if not alot. >> If too many possbily follow Deke's reco and work it up. >> If it got solid ground cover you wil have to disc it and cultivate and >> harrow at least. >> You might have to plough it first depending on how the disc works. >> The more you work it , the more rocks you will be picking over the next > year >> or two. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:15 PM >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice > grass >> strip >> >> >> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> >> > >> > >> >> I guess they were just talking about grading your proposed runway ? >> > >> > >> > That's correct. >> > >> > >> >> How smooth or rough is your field now ? >> > >> > >> > With the tundra tires on my kitfox now, I coul'd probably use it as is > but >> > I imagine that it would wear the airplane after a while and wouldn't be >> > much fun. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57322#57322 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 07:54:48 AM PST US
    From: "Wayne Cahoon" <wayne@engravers.net>
    Subject: Simple Green question
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Wayne Cahoon" <wayne@engravers.net> Hey, Are you talking about the same "Extreme Simple Green", "Aircraft and Precision Cleaner" that was given away at Sun N' Fun? Or are you talking about the standard stuff that you can get at any local store? Wayne Cahoon Aircraft Engravers (860) 653-2780 ph (860) 653-7324 fax http://www.engravers.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Floran Higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:00 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Floran Higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net> > > I also found that simple green will etch the windshield > Floran H. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" >> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> >> >> Simple Green is great for removing stains, bugs, grease, etc. However, >> let >> me warn you. That stuff is incredibly corrosive. Spray a little on a >> camlock and watch what happens to it in a couple days. So if you decide >> to >> use the stuff, just ensure you keep it away from metal parts, or give >> them a >> good rinse when you're finished. >> Deke >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net> >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:20 PM >> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage >> >> >>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net> >>> >>> Simple Green works the best and will take the stains right off. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of >>> mdps_mc@swoca.net >>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:44 PM >>> To: Kitfox >>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage >>> >>> >>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: mdps_mc@swoca.net >>> >>> There was someone that said a mixture of diet mountian dew and I think >> maybe >>> baking soda. Sounds a bit strange but I never tried it. This comment >>> was >>> made on this list. >>> Mike >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "George Wells@adelphia.net" <georgewells@adelphia.net> >>> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:17:38 >>> To:kitfox-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage >>> >>> On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 5, when the tanks are >>> topped off the caps seep staining the wing with gas. I have tried new >>> caps >>> but they still seep. Does anyone have a solution for this ?? >>> Also what is good to clean the stain? I have tried all kinds of >>> cleaners. >>> ---------------- >>> This message has been scanned for Viruses and cleared by MailMarshal at >>> SWOCA. >>> ---------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 07:55:52 AM PST US
    From: "John Oakley" <john@leptron.com>
    Subject: The USA by air
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <john@leptron.com> Michel, Over the years I have always looked forward to seeing pictures of your area also. John Oakley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel Verheughe Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 12:37 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: The USA by air --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> On Aug 26, 2006, at 2:02 PM, Barry West wrote: > John, great pictures. "Great," is an understatement, John. Those are incredibly beautiful pictures. I have received this link from several holds so I guess many people admire it. What a beautiful country, too! Norway is great but hardly changing. The US is ... every thinkable landscape in one country. How inspiring it must be to fly over it! And what a good photographer too! I know how difficult it is to "catch the moment" when I experience a great moment in the nature. A photo, even a video, tends to make things duller than in real life. But this was incredibly beautiful. Thanks for sharing. I keep the link in my "Favorites." Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 08:46:22 AM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Gas Caps Leakage
    I'll try to address the seepage problem, though others may have done so. The cap as provided is 'layered" with the inside layer have two vents in addition to the pitot vent tube. These vents access the outside via 4 crips in the circumference ov the inner layer. All six opening need to be sealed with RTV or other medium. The replacement of the gasket with a Mercedes part and the above sealing have kept my wings stain free for the last 6 years. John Kerr -------------- Original message -------------- From: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net> Over the years, this subject has come up many times and the best cleaner mentioned each time has been a little gasoline on a rag. Clean the stain with gasoline, then wipe it off and wash the surface with a little water. It sounds counter-intuitive, but previous list members say it works well. Clem Lawton, OK KF IV-912 -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Wells@adelphia.net Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:18 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 5, when the tanks are topped off the caps seep staining the wing with gas. I have tried new caps but they still seep. Does anyone have a solution for this ?? Also what is good to clean the stain? I have tried all kinds of cleaners. Thanks <html><body> <DIV>I'll try to address the seepage problem, though others may have done so.&nbsp; The cap as provided is 'layered" with the inside layer have two vents in addition to the pitot vent tube.&nbsp; These vents access the outside via 4 crips in the circumference ov the inner layer. All six opening need to be sealed with RTV or other medium.&nbsp; The replacement of the gasket with a Mercedes part and the above sealing have kept my wings stain free for the last 6 years.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>John Kerr</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "clemwehner" &lt;clemwehner@sbcglobal.net&gt; <BR> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><SPAN class=282232000-28082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Over the years, this subject has come up many times and the best cleaner mentioned each time has&nbsp;been&nbsp;a little gasoline on a rag.&nbsp; Clean the stain with gasoline, then wipe it off and wash the surface with a little water. It sounds counter-intuitive, but previous list members say it works well.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=282232000-28082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=282232000-28082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Clem</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=282232000-28082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Lawton, OK</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=282232000-28082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>KF IV-912</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>George Wells@adelphia.net<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:18 PM<BR><B>To:</B> kitfox-list@matronics.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 5,&nbsp;when the tanks are topped off the caps seep staining the wing with gas.&nbsp;I have tried new caps but they still seep. Does anyone have a solution for this ??</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also what is good to clean the stain? I have tried all kinds of cleaners.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks</FONT></DIV><PRE><B><FONT face="courier new,courier" color=#000000 size=2> </B></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE><B><FONT face="courier new,courier" size=2 color000000?> </B></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 09:48:18 AM PST US
    From: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Gas Caps Leakage
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net> The subject of gas stains keeps coming up every few years on this list. In the past, several members have said that fresh gasoline on a rag will remove the stains. They've said to wipe it on the stain, then wipe it off while it is still wet. Then clean the fabric with water. This sounds counter-intuitive, but it supposedly works, though I haven't tried it. In a similar situation, someone wrote on our office whiteboard with permanent marker instead of a dry erase marker. Nothing would get it off except tracing over the marks with a new permanent marker, then wiping it off while it was still wet. Worked great. Kinda the same idea with our gas stains. Clem Lawton, OK KFIV, 912 -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mdps_mc@swoca.net Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:44 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage --> Kitfox-List message posted by: mdps_mc@swoca.net There was someone that said a mixture of diet mountian dew and I think maybe baking soda. Sounds a bit strange but I never tried it. This comment was made on this list. Mike -----Original Message----- From: "George Wells@adelphia.net" <georgewells@adelphia.net> To:kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 5,when the tanks are topped off the caps seep staining the wing with gas.I have tried new caps but they still seep. Does anyone have a solution for this ?? Also what is good to clean the stain? I have tried all kinds of cleaners. ---------------- This message has been scanned for Viruses and cleared by MailMarshal at SWOCA. ----------------


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    Time: 10:23:40 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
    Subject: Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com> I took my Model IV to a weld shop and had them copied in the larger size. I may have the lighter mod IV struts available but don't know if they fit and I suppose shipping would be terribly high. Bob u. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:28 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> > > Hi All: > > "My Kitfox" new owner is currently performing a > complete restoration. He already applied sand > blasting to the fuselage, and the applied an epoxy > primer and a polyurethane coat. It is in good shape. > > > The wing lift struts however are a different story. > When he attempted to remove the bracket that attachs > the jury strut to the wing lift strut, he found that > the strut was heavily corroded. He said I'm lucky to > be alive. I flew this plane for the last time on > December 2004, and then it was for one and a half year > on my backyard, exposed. This rust may have developed > during that time frame. I will never know. > > What really matters is that now I need a pair of Wing > Lift Struts and Jury struts for a Kitfox II. I have > some questions regarding my alternatives: > - Could I adapt Model IV wing lift struts to a model > II? > - Could I get a pair of Model II wing lift struts and > jury struts from John McBean/Kitfox LLC? > - Do any of you have a pair of Model II wing lift > struts in good shape for sale? Please not rust!!! > > Thanks for your support!!! > > Jos Toro > > > __________________________________________________ > >


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    Time: 10:29:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Amazing photo
    From: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com> NBC is soliciting votes for best photo. All photos are amazing! The attached photo is from the collection I recieved this larger view from a friend. Now, imagine the same display with 5 Kitfoxes :) -------------------------------------------------- Check out the photos at: http://www.msnbc.com/modules/yip05/dw.asp?nStartOn=1 NBC - 2005 - Year in Pictures Click 'Your Vote' tab..... to view small images. Do not archive -------- Richard in SW Michigan Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=58019#58019 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/vortex_163.jpg


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    Time: 10:42:00 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
    Subject: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass
    strip --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com> I think IF I had access to one of the "plug aerators" or what ever they are called I would consider burning the old grass down with 2 to 3 quarts of Roundup 4lb. per acre and reseed without tilling. Just drag the plugs around into the holes. The one I saw used generated quite a bit of soil from the loosened plugs and with the Grass killed prior to running the aerator, I'm betting you could get a pretty good grass stand and have not washing. Bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> > > depends on the disc and soil. > Like I said I would do as little as possible and try to rule out disc or > ploughing if possible. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:51 AM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice > grass strip > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" > > <shilocom@mcmsys.com> > > > > You will likely have a mess if you try disking sod first. Bob U. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> > > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:26 PM > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice > > grass strip > > > > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> > >> > >> If the field is usuable now I would do as little as possible but remove > >> rocks and fill in the holes if not alot. > >> If too many possbily follow Deke's reco and work it up. > >> If it got solid ground cover you wil have to disc it and cultivate and > >> harrow at least. > >> You might have to plough it first depending on how the disc works. > >> The more you work it , the more rocks you will be picking over the next > > year > >> or two. > >> > >> > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> > >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > >> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:15 PM > >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice > > grass > >> strip > >> > >> > >> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> > >> > > >> > > >> >> I guess they were just talking about grading your proposed runway ? > >> > > >> > > >> > That's correct. > >> > > >> > > >> >> How smooth or rough is your field now ? > >> > > >> > > >> > With the tundra tires on my kitfox now, I coul'd probably use it as is > > but > >> > I imagine that it would wear the airplane after a while and wouldn't be > >> > much fun. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Read this topic online here: > >> > > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57322#57322 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:57:12 AM PST US
    From: wwillyard@AOL.COM
    Subject: 912 lubrication system question
    I thought at one time I read on this list that someone had modified the lubrication system on a 912 with a check valve to reduce or stop oil migration from the remote sump to the crankcase when the engine was not operating. I would be interested in learning more of about this modification if in fact it has been accomplished. Thanks Bill W. Classic IV 912ul ________________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 11:15:24 AM PST US
    From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> Bob: By lighter and larger, do you mean different diameter? I've been told that the wing lift struts are different in model II and IV. However, if the Model IV struts can be adapted to the Model II, I'm willing to buy a new pair. I probably won't be able to copy my actual struts to build new ones since one is longer than the other, and I know for sure that both were incorrectly installed, which means that probably both were wrong in terms of length and angle. You won't believe how beautiful this Kitfox used to fly with incorrectly installed wing lift struts. Our goal now is to do it right as part of the restoration. regards! Jose --- Bob Unternaehrer <shilocom@mcmsys.com> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob > Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com> > > I took my Model IV to a weld shop and had them > copied in the larger size. I > may have the lighter mod IV struts available but > don't know if they fit and > I suppose shipping would be terribly high. Bob u. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:28 AM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift > Struts > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" > <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> > > > > Hi All: > > > > "My Kitfox" new owner is currently performing a > > complete restoration. He already applied sand > > blasting to the fuselage, and the applied an epoxy > > primer and a polyurethane coat. It is in good > shape. > > > > > > The wing lift struts however are a different > story. > > When he attempted to remove the bracket that > attachs > > the jury strut to the wing lift strut, he found > that > > the strut was heavily corroded. He said I'm lucky > to > > be alive. I flew this plane for the last time on > > December 2004, and then it was for one and a half > year > > on my backyard, exposed. This rust may have > developed > > during that time frame. I will never know. > > > > What really matters is that now I need a pair of > Wing > > Lift Struts and Jury struts for a Kitfox II. I > have > > some questions regarding my alternatives: > > - Could I adapt Model IV wing lift struts to a > model > > II? > > - Could I get a pair of Model II wing lift struts > and > > jury struts from John McBean/Kitfox LLC? > > - Do any of you have a pair of Model II wing lift > > struts in good shape for sale? Please not rust!!! > > > > Thanks for your support!!! > > > > Jos Toro > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > > Web Forums! > > > Admin. > > > > > __________________________________________________


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    Time: 11:32:56 AM PST US
    From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Simple Green question
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net> Plain old Simple Green. It works well on any kind of stain but you certainly don't want to use it for general cleaning unless it's diluted as directed. I use it undiluted for fuel stains. I only use it on paint stains or for degreasing personally as the stuff is quite hardy. Also, don't use it on any raw or polished aluminum. Regards, Ted --- Original Message --- From: "Wayne Cahoon" <wayne@engravers.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Simple Green question >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Wayne Cahoon" <wayne@engravers.net> > >Hey, > >Are you talking about the same "Extreme Simple Green", "Aircraft and >Precision Cleaner" that was given away at Sun N' Fun? Or are you talking >about the standard stuff that you can get at any local store? > >Wayne Cahoon >Aircraft Engravers >(860) 653-2780 ph >(860) 653-7324 fax >http://www.engravers.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Floran Higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:00 AM >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Floran Higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net> >> >> I also found that simple green will etch the windshield >> Floran H. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 7:45 PM >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage >> >> >>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" >>> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> >>> >>> Simple Green is great for removing stains, bugs, grease, etc. However, >>> let >>> me warn you. That stuff is incredibly corrosive. Spray a little on a >>> camlock and watch what happens to it in a couple days. So if you decide >>> to >>> use the stuff, just ensure you keep it away from metal parts, or give >>> them a >>> good rinse when you're finished. >>> Deke >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net> >>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:20 PM >>> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage >>> >>> >>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net> >>>> >>>> Simple Green works the best and will take the stains right off. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >>>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >>>> mdps_mc@swoca.net >>>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:44 PM >>>> To: Kitfox >>>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage >>>> >>>> >>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: mdps_mc@swoca.net >>>> >>>> There was someone that said a mixture of diet mountian dew and I think >>> maybe >>>> baking soda. Sounds a bit strange but I never tried it. This comment >>>> was >>>> made on this list. >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: "George Wells@adelphia.net" <georgewells@adelphia.net> >>>> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:17:38 >>>> To:kitfox-list@matronics.com >>>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage >>>> >>>> On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 5, when the tanks are >>>> topped off the caps seep staining the wing with gas. I have tried new >>>> caps >>>> but they still seep. Does anyone have a solution for this ?? >>>> Also what is good to clean the stain? I have tried all kinds of >>>> cleaners. >>>> ---------------- >>>> This message has been scanned for Viruses and cleared by MailMarshal at >>>> SWOCA. >>>> ---------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >_- ===================================================== ===== browse Subscriptions page, FAQ, List >_- ===================================================== ===== Web Forums! >_- ===================================================== ===== >_- ===================================================== ===== Admin. >_- ===================================================== ===== > >


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    Time: 03:26:03 PM PST US
    From: GONER752@AOL.COM
    Subject: type poll
    well, I tried. couldn't register on the forum as there was no view of the confimation code. Anyway, this is me. Greg Gerace 47 model II 582 greyhead c drive gsc three blade tailchaser,er,dragger home field-23NK Long acre farm Macedon.N.Y.


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    Time: 04:23:47 PM PST US
    From: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
    Subject: NSI EA81 Turbo Manual
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net> Do any of you have a NSI EA81 Turbo engine manual? I have sold my engine to Mike Couillard and I am trying to get documents together for him. Mike is a member of the Kitfox List, is building a Model 5 Kitfox, and is an ex Air Force pilot. He is also a glider pilot. He lives in Colorado Springs not too far from me. In looking for the manual in my archives, I did find one on the NSI dual ignition system I did not realize I had. I do have a lot of other NSI manuals and if anyone needs one, I would be happy to copy it for them. Jim Crowder


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    Time: 04:29:36 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
    Subject: Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com> The old ones I think, if my memory serves me right were 7/8" dia but were smaller than the new ones for sure. Have NO idea if Mod IV struts fits the MOD II. You would have to go to Kitfox for that. Bob U> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> > > Bob: > > By lighter and larger, do you mean different diameter? > I've been told that the wing lift struts are different > in model II and IV. However, if the Model IV struts > can be adapted to the Model II, I'm willing to buy a > new pair. > > I probably won't be able to copy my actual struts to > build new ones since one is longer than the other, and > I know for sure that both were incorrectly installed, > which means that probably both were wrong in terms of > length and angle. You won't believe how beautiful > this Kitfox used to fly with incorrectly installed > wing lift struts. Our goal now is to do it right as > part of the restoration. > > regards! > > Jose > > --- Bob Unternaehrer <shilocom@mcmsys.com> wrote: > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob > > Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com> > > > > I took my Model IV to a weld shop and had them > > copied in the larger size. I > > may have the lighter mod IV struts available but > > don't know if they fit and > > I suppose shipping would be terribly high. Bob u. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> > > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:28 AM > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift > > Struts > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" > > <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> > > > > > > Hi All: > > > > > > "My Kitfox" new owner is currently performing a > > > complete restoration. He already applied sand > > > blasting to the fuselage, and the applied an epoxy > > > primer and a polyurethane coat. It is in good > > shape. > > > > > > > > > The wing lift struts however are a different > > story. > > > When he attempted to remove the bracket that > > attachs > > > the jury strut to the wing lift strut, he found > > that > > > the strut was heavily corroded. He said I'm lucky > > to > > > be alive. I flew this plane for the last time on > > > December 2004, and then it was for one and a half > > year > > > on my backyard, exposed. This rust may have > > developed > > > during that time frame. I will never know. > > > > > > What really matters is that now I need a pair of > > Wing > > > Lift Struts and Jury struts for a Kitfox II. I > > have > > > some questions regarding my alternatives: > > > - Could I adapt Model IV wing lift struts to a > > model > > > II? > > > - Could I get a pair of Model II wing lift struts > > and > > > jury struts from John McBean/Kitfox LLC? > > > - Do any of you have a pair of Model II wing lift > > > struts in good shape for sale? Please not rust!!! > > > > > > Thanks for your support!!! > > > > > > Jos Toro > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > > Subscriptions page, > > FAQ, > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > > > > Web Forums! > > > > > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > >


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    Time: 04:40:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 912 lubrication system question
    From: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com> How long are you letting the engine sit. Reason why I ask is because this is not an issue with me. Of course I only have let it sit for no more than 3 days at a time. When I do go and start I first turn the prop over for 3 compression strokes to make sure the engine isn't locked up, then I crank the engine(mags off) until engine pressure is reading(about 6sec), then I stop turn on the mags and fire away, fly away. -------- kitfoxmike kitfox4 1200 912ul speedster http://www.frappr.com/kitfoxmike rv7 wingkit reserved 287RV Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=58088#58088


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    Time: 04:59:50 PM PST US
    From: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
    Subject: Classic IV for sale
    It's funny, everytime I mention my Kitfox for sale I get 2-3 new responses. So, I thought I'd try it one more time before I went off list with the advertisement. So far, I have had close to a dozen request for information from the list and only one serious taker (that one fizzled due to he wanted more speed). Don Smythe


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    Time: 05:29:25 PM PST US
    From: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com>
    Subject: Re: model 3 tires
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com> look at the Kenda tire 20x7x8 they are only 20. for each . I buy mine from rocky mountain atv www.rockymountainatvmc.com 1-800-336-5437 they are great and with the lugs work wonderful they are not like the cheng shin original tires that are stripped of the lugs , by the way the cheng shin tires only cost 20. each and resell for 115. each when trimmed of the lugs . John Perry kitfox 2 N718PD ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:19 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: model 3 tires > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us> > > Tractor supply has 20.00 x7.00 x8 tires for about $55.00 with knobs in 6 > rows around the tire. about 150 / 200 total. is there an easy way to > remove them? > > regards, > > Joe > > >


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    Time: 05:40:17 PM PST US
    From: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass
    strip --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com> Yes, you can do a lot by just filling the low spots with soil from the high and re seed. Our planes don't need rolling green surfaces and if you don't get too carried away with the process you can make ongoing improvements. From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> depends on the disc and soil. Like I said I would do as little as possible and try to rule out disc or ploughing if possible. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:51 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com> > >You will likely have a mess if you try disking sod first. Bob U. > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:26 PM >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice >grass strip > > >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> >> >>If the field is usuable now I would do as little as possible but remove >>rocks and fill in the holes if not alot. >>If too many possbily follow Deke's reco and work it up. >>If it got solid ground cover you wil have to disc it and cultivate and >>harrow at least. >>You might have to plough it first depending on how the disc works. >>The more you work it , the more rocks you will be picking over the next >year >>or two. >> >> >> >>Dave >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> >>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >>Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:15 PM >>Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice >grass >>strip >> >> >> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> >> > >> > >> >> I guess they were just talking about grading your proposed runway ? >> > >> > >> > That's correct. >> > >> > >> >> How smooth or rough is your field now ? >> > >> > >> > With the tundra tires on my kitfox now, I coul'd probably use it as is >but >> > I imagine that it would wear the airplane after a while and wouldn't be >> > much fun. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57322#57322 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ Need more speed? Get Xtra Broadband @ http://jetstream.xtra.co.nz/chm/0,,202853-1000,00.html


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    Time: 05:52:12 PM PST US
    From: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
    Subject: NSI EA81 Turbo Manual
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com> Yes Jim, I have a copy of the EA81 Turbo supliment manual. John A. From: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI EA81 Turbo Manual --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net> Do any of you have a NSI EA81 Turbo engine manual? I have sold my engine to Mike Couillard and I am trying to get documents together for him. Mike is a member of the Kitfox List, is building a Model 5 Kitfox, and is an ex Air Force pilot. He is also a glider pilot. He lives in Colorado Springs not too far from me. In looking for the manual in my archives, I did find one on the NSI dual ignition system I did not realize I had. I do have a lot of other NSI manuals and if anyone needs one, I would be happy to copy it for them. Jim Crowder _________________________________________________________________ Discover fun and games at @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/kids


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    Time: 05:52:31 PM PST US
    From: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com>
    Subject: kitfox makes landing on hiway
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com> http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/aviation/story/8131816p-8024248c.html just read this kitfox makes safe landing with mother aboard when engine sputters due to water in fuel pilot says . HMMMMM a taildragger landing safe again lol. John Perry Kitfox 2 N718PD taildragger forever


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    Time: 06:30:18 PM PST US
    From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: model 3 tires
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> http://www.mipowerparachute.com/Tires.html read that 40$ each no idea why you would mess around removing lugs. Also --seach out gold cart wheels 16.5 or 18.5 should work fine on 8 " rim . Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: model 3 tires > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com> > > look at the Kenda tire 20x7x8 they are only 20. for each . I buy mine from > rocky mountain atv > www.rockymountainatvmc.com > 1-800-336-5437 > they are great and with the lugs work wonderful they are not like the > cheng shin original tires that are stripped of the lugs , by the way the > cheng shin tires only cost 20. each and resell for 115. each when trimmed > of the lugs . > > John Perry > kitfox 2 N718PD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:19 AM > Subject: Kitfox-List: model 3 tires > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us> >> >> Tractor supply has 20.00 x7.00 x8 tires for about $55.00 with knobs in 6 >> rows around the tire. about 150 / 200 total. is there an easy way to >> remove them? >> >> regards, >> >> Joe >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 07:16:14 PM PST US
    From: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
    Subject: Re: Gas Caps Leakage
    John: What is RTV? By the way, I've tried using gasoline on a rag to clean the stain off with no luck. The Mean Green which I've used, (and obviously the Simple Green as well) does a great job. Just be careful where you spray it, and rinse thoroughly as soon as the stain is removed. Clem Nichols Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: kerrjohna@comcast.net To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:43 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage I'll try to address the seepage problem, though others may have done so. The cap as provided is 'layered" with the inside layer have two vents in addition to the pitot vent tube. These vents access the outside via 4 crips in the circumference ov the inner layer. All six opening need to be sealed with RTV or other medium. The replacement of the gasket with a Mercedes part and the above sealing have kept my wings stain free for the last 6 years. John Kerr -------------- Original message -------------- From: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net> Over the years, this subject has come up many times and the best cleaner mentioned each time has been a little gasoline on a rag. Clean the stain with gasoline, then wipe it off and wash the surface with a little water. It sounds counter-intuitive, but previous list members say it works well. Clem Lawton, OK KF IV-912 -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Wells@adelphia.net Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:18 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 5, when the tanks are topped off the caps seep staining the wing with gas. I have tried new caps but they still seep. Does anyone have a solution for this ?? Also what is good to clean the stain? I have tried all kinds of cleaners. Thanks


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    Time: 07:22:47 PM PST US
    From: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com>
    Subject: Re: model 3 tires
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com> all these tires are only 2 ply , which is why i like the kenda tire with the straight lug they deflect the stickers and catus and goat heads and such . I no longer have flats to deal with lol . also the 2 ply tires quickly wear out on pavement if doing alot of flying and your gear is not tracked right . Just my humble opinion and noone made me say these things . John Perry Kitfox 2 N718PDF fly safe fly low fly slow and have FUN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: model 3 tires > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> > > http://www.mipowerparachute.com/Tires.html > > read that 40$ each > > no idea why you would mess around removing lugs. > > Also --seach out gold cart wheels 16.5 or 18.5 should work fine on 8 " > rim . > > > Dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:28 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: model 3 tires > > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com> >> >> look at the Kenda tire 20x7x8 they are only 20. for each . I buy mine >> from rocky mountain atv >> www.rockymountainatvmc.com >> 1-800-336-5437 >> they are great and with the lugs work wonderful they are not like the >> cheng shin original tires that are stripped of the lugs , by the way the >> cheng shin tires only cost 20. each and resell for 115. each when trimmed >> of the lugs . >> >> John Perry >> kitfox 2 N718PD >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us> >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:19 AM >> Subject: Kitfox-List: model 3 tires >> >> >>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us> >>> >>> Tractor supply has 20.00 x7.00 x8 tires for about $55.00 with knobs in 6 >>> rows around the tire. about 150 / 200 total. is there an easy way to >>> remove them? >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 08:18:15 PM PST US
    From: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net>
    Subject: Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net> The model IV struts are longer than the model II since the bracket location is further out on the spar.. I could get you dimensions if you need them. Rex Colorado Bob Unternaehrer wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com> > >The old ones I think, if my memory serves me right were 7/8" dia but were >smaller than the new ones for sure. Have NO idea if Mod IV struts fits the >MOD II. You would have to go to Kitfox for that. Bob U> > >- >


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    Time: 08:29:58 PM PST US
    From: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com>
    Subject: Re: Gas Caps Leakage
    I use red thunder to clean my stains . it is a biodegradable product and does not mar or leave any residue when waiped and washed off leaves a perfect shine . also friendly to aluminum http://www.malcopro.com/cgi-win/mallist.exe/Cleaning I have used it on the fuel stains after the stains sitting for months and it takes them right off. look these products up i really think you all will like them . John Perry Kitfox 2 { still a tail dragger } fly safe fly low fly slow and have FUN


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    Time: 08:59:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kitfox for sale
    From: "John Galt" <johngalt.0@gmail.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Galt" <johngalt.0@gmail.com> Thanks Don. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=58140#58140


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    Time: 10:46:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Demo ride in So. California?
    From: "rudderdancer" <jhenryhall@mac.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "rudderdancer" <jhenryhall@mac.com> Hi all, I have searched the forum but haven't found anything relating where a demo ride in a Kitfox might be found in So. California. I'm a former Stinson 108-1 owner/pilot that is very interested in a Kitfox or Avid. If anyone can point me in the right direction to finding a demo ride, doesn't have to be for long, just around the patch will do, I would appreciated it. Thanks, Jack Victorville, CA. jhenryhall@mac.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=58152#58152


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    Time: 11:50:08 PM PST US
    From: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Gas Caps Leakage
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com> Silicon sealer but I wouldn't use it with gas. Proseal would be better IMHO. John A. From: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage John: What is RTV? By the way, I've tried using gasoline on a rag to clean the stain off with no luck. The Mean Green which I've used, (and obviously the Simple Green as well) does a great job. Just be careful where you spray it, and rinse thoroughly as soon as the stain is removed. Clem Nichols Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: kerrjohna@comcast.net To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:43 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage I'll try to address the seepage problem, though others may have done so. The cap as provided is 'layered" with the inside layer have two vents in addition to the pitot vent tube. These vents access the outside via 4 crips in the circumference ov the inner layer. All six opening need to be sealed with RTV or other medium. The replacement of the gasket with a Mercedes part and the above sealing have kept my wings stain free for the last 6 years. John Kerr -------------- Original message -------------- From: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net> Over the years, this subject has come up many times and the best cleaner mentioned each time has been a little gasoline on a rag. Clean the stain with gasoline, then wipe it off and wash the surface with a little water. It sounds counter-intuitive, but previous list members say it works well. Clem Lawton, OK KF IV-912 -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Wells@adelphia.net Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:18 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 5, when the tanks are topped off the caps seep staining the wing with gas. I have tried new caps but they still seep. Does anyone have a solution for this ?? Also what is good to clean the stain? I have tried all kinds of cleaners. Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Looking for love? Check out XtraMSN Personals http://xtramsn.match.com/match/mt.cfm?pg=channel&tcid 0731




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