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     1. 05:15 AM - Re: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip (Bob Unternaehrer)
     2. 05:29 AM - Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts (Jose M. Toro)
     3. 05:41 AM - Re: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip (Bob Unternaehrer)
     4. 06:10 AM - model 3 tires (joe)
     5. 06:14 AM - Re:  (Dave Wahlquist)
     6. 06:57 AM - Re: The USA by air (wingnut)
     7. 07:02 AM - Re: Gas Caps Leakage (Floran Higgins)
     8. 07:25 AM - Re: model 3 tires (Dave)
     9. 07:28 AM - Re: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip (Dave)
    10. 07:54 AM - Simple Green question (Wayne Cahoon)
    11. 07:55 AM - Re: The USA by air (John Oakley)
    12. 08:46 AM - Re: Gas Caps Leakage (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
    13. 09:48 AM - Re: Gas Caps Leakage (clemwehner)
    14. 10:23 AM - Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts (Bob Unternaehrer)
    15. 10:29 AM - Amazing photo (Richard Rabbers)
    16. 10:42 AM - Re: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip (Bob Unternaehrer)
    17. 10:57 AM - 912 lubrication system question (wwillyard@AOL.COM)
    18. 11:15 AM - Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts (Jose M. Toro)
    19. 11:32 AM - Re: Simple Green question (flier)
    20. 03:26 PM - type poll (GONER752@AOL.COM)
    21. 04:23 PM - NSI EA81 Turbo Manual (Jim Crowder)
    22. 04:29 PM - Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts (Bob Unternaehrer)
    23. 04:40 PM - Re: 912 lubrication system question (kitfoxmike)
    24. 04:59 PM - Classic IV for sale (Don Smythe)
    25. 05:29 PM - Re: model 3 tires (john perry)
    26. 05:40 PM - Re: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass strip (John Anderson)
    27. 05:52 PM - Re: NSI EA81 Turbo Manual (John Anderson)
    28. 05:52 PM - kitfox makes landing on hiway (john perry)
    29. 06:30 PM - Re: model 3 tires (Dave)
    30. 07:16 PM - Re: Gas Caps Leakage (Clem Nichols)
    31. 07:22 PM - Re: model 3 tires (john perry)
    32. 08:18 PM - Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts (Rex)
    33. 08:29 PM - Re: Gas Caps Leakage (john perry)
    34. 08:59 PM - Re: Kitfox for sale (John Galt)
    35. 10:46 PM - Demo ride in So. California? (rudderdancer)
    36. 11:50 PM - Re: Gas Caps Leakage (John Anderson)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass | 
      strip
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
      
      Plug aerators do seem to work well but are scarce and costly in our area.
      Bob U.
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:41 AM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice
      grass strip
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      >
      > Hi,
      >
      > I have 2 strips here.
      > One I cultivated and harrowed and seeded in fall and picked stones on
      every
      > walk down it .
      > Other one was in wheat with clover.  In the fall, I ran the bush hog over
      it
      > and chopped it all up and then ran plug aeroator down it and overseeded
      and
      > the grass is good.
      > It is not as smooth as the one I first mentioned but it still better than
      > alot of grass strips and i get guys in with amphibs and they usualy
      comment
      > how smooth it is. .
      >
      > I cut with a finished mower  with a roller on the back and it gets better
      > every year. Worst time is on a dry year and the roller has little impact
      > except in spring.
      > And it does not hurt to keep grass a bit longer like 2 to 3  inches and
      get
      > lot of mulch on it from clippings to shelter the ground from evaporation
      of
      > the soil.
      >
      >
      > Dave
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
      > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:58 AM
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice
      grass
      > strip
      >
      >
      > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
      > >
      > >
      > >> they basically move the soil to the centre if the strip and then roll
      it
      > >> to contour the desired run off.
      > >
      > >
      > > Don't have to worry about a thaw in SC but runoff from rain is an issue.
      > > When they push the soil to the middle, do they scrape off the topsoil
      > > first? I was told that once you dig up top soil, it has to be discarded
      > > because the grass roots make it impossible to smooth out.
      > >
      > >
      > >> Once seeded they continue to roll and after about two years they are
      > >> perfect and useable year round
      > >
      > >
      > > So you couldn't use the field for two years?
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Read this topic online here:
      > >
      > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57250#57250
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
      
      Hi All:
      
      "My Kitfox" new owner is currently performing a
      complete restoration.  He already applied sand
      blasting to the fuselage, and the applied an epoxy
      primer and a polyurethane coat.  It is in good shape. 
      
      
      The wing lift struts however are a different story. 
      When he attempted to remove the bracket that attachs
      the jury strut to the wing lift strut, he found that
      the strut was heavily corroded.  He said I'm lucky to
      be alive.  I flew this plane for the last time on
      December 2004, and then it was for one and a half year
      on my backyard, exposed.  This rust may have developed
      during that time frame.  I will never know.
      
      What really matters is that now I need a pair of Wing
      Lift Struts and Jury struts for a Kitfox II.  I have
      some questions regarding my alternatives:
      - Could I adapt Model IV wing lift struts to a model
      II?
      - Could I get a pair of Model II wing lift struts and
      jury struts from John McBean/Kitfox LLC?
      - Do any of you have a pair of Model II wing lift
      struts in good shape for sale?  Please not rust!!!
      
      Thanks for your support!!!
      
      Jos Toro
      
      
      __________________________________________________
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass | 
      strip
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
      
      You will likely have a mess if you try disking sod first.  Bob U.
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:26 PM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice
      grass strip
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      >
      > If the field is  usuable now I would do  as little as possible but remove
      > rocks and fill in the holes if not alot.
      > If too many possbily follow Deke's reco and work it up.
      > If it got solid ground cover you wil have to disc it and cultivate and
      > harrow at least.
      > You might have to plough it first depending on how  the disc works.
      > The more you work it , the more rocks you will be picking over the next
      year
      > or two.
      >
      >
      > Dave
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
      > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:15 PM
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice
      grass
      > strip
      >
      >
      > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
      > >
      > >
      > >> I guess they were just talking about grading your proposed runway ?
      > >
      > >
      > > That's correct.
      > >
      > >
      > >> How smooth or rough is your field now ?
      > >
      > >
      > > With the tundra tires on my kitfox now, I coul'd probably use it as is
      but
      > > I imagine that it would wear the airplane after a while and wouldn't be
      > > much fun.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Read this topic online here:
      > >
      > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57322#57322
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
      
      Tractor supply has 20.00 x7.00 x8 tires for about $55.00 with knobs in 6
      rows around the tire.  about 150 / 200 total.  is there an easy way to
      remove them?
      
      regards,
      
      Joe
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave Wahlquist <wahlquist@ics.uwex.edu>
      
      Model III
      582 grey head
      tail wheel
      In parts being put back together.
      Dave Wahlquist  age 46
      Marshall WI
      Never been to Thailand LOL
      I think this covers all the recent polls.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: The USA by air | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
      
      Wow. That was awsome. I'm glad I asked.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57958#57958
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Gas Caps Leakage | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Floran Higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net>
      
      I also found that simple green will etch the windshield
      Floran H.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 7:45 PM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      >
      > Simple Green is great for removing stains, bugs, grease, etc.  However, 
      > let
      > me warn you.  That stuff is incredibly corrosive.  Spray a little on a
      > camlock and watch what happens to it in a couple days.  So if you decide 
      > to
      > use the stuff, just ensure you keep it away from metal parts, or give them 
      > a
      > good rinse when you're finished.
      > Deke
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
      > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:20 PM
      > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      >
      >
      >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
      >>
      >> Simple Green works the best and will take the stains right off.
      >>
      >> -----Original Message-----
      >> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      >> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      >> mdps_mc@swoca.net
      >> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:44 PM
      >> To: Kitfox
      >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      >>
      >>
      >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: mdps_mc@swoca.net
      >>
      >> There was someone that said a mixture of diet mountian dew and I think
      > maybe
      >> baking soda. Sounds a bit strange but I never tried it.  This comment was
      >> made on this list.
      >> Mike
      >>
      >> -----Original Message-----
      >> From: "George Wells@adelphia.net" <georgewells@adelphia.net>
      >> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:17:38
      >> To:kitfox-list@matronics.com
      >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      >>
      >> On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 5, when the tanks are
      >> topped off the caps seep staining the wing with gas. I have tried new 
      >> caps
      >> but they still seep. Does anyone have a solution for this ??
      >> Also what is good to clean the stain? I have tried all kinds of cleaners.
      >> ----------------
      >>  This message has been scanned for Viruses and cleared by MailMarshal at
      >> SWOCA.
      >> ----------------
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: model 3 tires | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      
      Why buy knobbies when you can get the real tire for  I think 40$ 
      Ask John McBean or  search for MIPPI Ultralights in Mich.
      
      
      Dave 
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
      Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 9:19 AM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: model 3 tires
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
      > 
      > Tractor supply has 20.00 x7.00 x8 tires for about $55.00 with knobs in 6
      > rows around the tire.  about 150 / 200 total.  is there an easy way to
      > remove them?
      > 
      > regards,
      > 
      > Joe
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass | 
      strip
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      
      depends on the disc and soil.
      Like  I said I would do as little as possible and try to rule out disc or 
      ploughing if possible.
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
      Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:51 AM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice 
      grass strip
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" 
      > <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
      >
      > You will likely have a mess if you try disking sod first.  Bob U.
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:26 PM
      > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice
      > grass strip
      >
      >
      >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      >>
      >> If the field is  usuable now I would do  as little as possible but remove
      >> rocks and fill in the holes if not alot.
      >> If too many possbily follow Deke's reco and work it up.
      >> If it got solid ground cover you wil have to disc it and cultivate and
      >> harrow at least.
      >> You might have to plough it first depending on how  the disc works.
      >> The more you work it , the more rocks you will be picking over the next
      > year
      >> or two.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Dave
      >>
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message ----- 
      >> From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
      >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      >> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:15 PM
      >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice
      > grass
      >> strip
      >>
      >>
      >> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >> I guess they were just talking about grading your proposed runway ?
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > That's correct.
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >> How smooth or rough is your field now ?
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > With the tundra tires on my kitfox now, I coul'd probably use it as is
      > but
      >> > I imagine that it would wear the airplane after a while and wouldn't be
      >> > much fun.
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > Read this topic online here:
      >> >
      >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57322#57322
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Simple Green question | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Wayne Cahoon" <wayne@engravers.net>
      
      Hey,
      
      Are you talking about the same "Extreme Simple Green", "Aircraft and 
      Precision Cleaner" that was given away at Sun N' Fun? Or are you talking 
      about the standard stuff that you can get at any local store?
      
      Wayne Cahoon
      Aircraft Engravers
      (860) 653-2780 ph
      (860) 653-7324 fax
      http://www.engravers.net/
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Floran Higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net>
      Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:00 AM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Floran Higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net>
      >
      > I also found that simple green will etch the windshield
      > Floran H.
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 7:45 PM
      > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      >
      >
      >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" 
      >> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      >>
      >> Simple Green is great for removing stains, bugs, grease, etc.  However, 
      >> let
      >> me warn you.  That stuff is incredibly corrosive.  Spray a little on a
      >> camlock and watch what happens to it in a couple days.  So if you decide 
      >> to
      >> use the stuff, just ensure you keep it away from metal parts, or give 
      >> them a
      >> good rinse when you're finished.
      >> Deke
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message ----- 
      >> From: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
      >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      >> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:20 PM
      >> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      >>
      >>
      >>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
      >>>
      >>> Simple Green works the best and will take the stains right off.
      >>>
      >>> -----Original Message-----
      >>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      >>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      >>> mdps_mc@swoca.net
      >>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:44 PM
      >>> To: Kitfox
      >>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: mdps_mc@swoca.net
      >>>
      >>> There was someone that said a mixture of diet mountian dew and I think
      >> maybe
      >>> baking soda. Sounds a bit strange but I never tried it.  This comment 
      >>> was
      >>> made on this list.
      >>> Mike
      >>>
      >>> -----Original Message-----
      >>> From: "George Wells@adelphia.net" <georgewells@adelphia.net>
      >>> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:17:38
      >>> To:kitfox-list@matronics.com
      >>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      >>>
      >>> On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 5, when the tanks are
      >>> topped off the caps seep staining the wing with gas. I have tried new 
      >>> caps
      >>> but they still seep. Does anyone have a solution for this ??
      >>> Also what is good to clean the stain? I have tried all kinds of 
      >>> cleaners.
      >>> ----------------
      >>>  This message has been scanned for Viruses and cleared by MailMarshal at
      >>> SWOCA.
      >>> ----------------
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <john@leptron.com>
      
      Michel,
      Over the years I have always looked forward to seeing pictures of your area
      also.
      
      John Oakley
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
      Verheughe
      Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 12:37 PM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: The USA by air
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
      
      On Aug 26, 2006, at 2:02 PM, Barry West wrote:
      > John, great pictures.
      
      "Great," is an understatement, John. Those are incredibly beautiful 
      pictures. I have received this link from several holds so I guess many 
      people admire it. What a beautiful country, too! Norway is great but 
      hardly changing. The US is ... every thinkable landscape in one 
      country. How inspiring it must be to fly over it! And what a good 
      photographer too! I know how difficult it is to "catch the moment" when 
      I experience a great moment in the nature. A photo, even a video, tends 
      to make things duller than in real life. But this was incredibly 
      beautiful. Thanks for sharing. I keep the link in my "Favorites."
      
      Cheers,
      Michel
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Gas Caps Leakage | 
      
      I'll try to address the seepage problem, though others may have done so.  The cap
      as provided is 'layered" with the inside layer have two vents in addition to
      the pitot vent tube.  These vents access the outside via 4 crips in the circumference
      ov the inner layer. All six opening need to be sealed with RTV or other
      medium.  The replacement of the gasket with a Mercedes part and the above
      sealing have kept my wings stain free for the last 6 years.
      
      John Kerr
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net> 
      
      Over the years, this subject has come up many times and the best cleaner mentioned
      each time has been a little gasoline on a rag.  Clean the stain with gasoline,
      then wipe it off and wash the surface with a little water. It sounds counter-intuitive,
      but previous list members say it works well.
      
      Clem
      Lawton, OK
      KF IV-912
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Wells@adelphia.net
      Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:18 PM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      
      
      On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 5, when the tanks are topped off
      the caps seep staining the wing with gas. I have tried new caps but they still
      seep. Does anyone have a solution for this ??
      Also what is good to clean the stain? I have tried all kinds of cleaners.
      Thanks
      
      
      <html><body>
      <DIV>I'll try to address the seepage problem, though others may have done so. 
      The cap as provided is 'layered" with the inside layer have two vents in
      addition to the pitot vent tube.  These vents access the outside via 4 crips
      in the circumference ov the inner layer. All six opening need to be sealed
      with RTV or other medium.  The replacement of the gasket with a Mercedes
      part and the above sealing have kept my wings stain free for the last 6 years.</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>John Kerr</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px
      solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "clemwehner"
      <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net> <BR>
      <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR>
      <STYLE></STYLE>
      
      <DIV><SPAN class=282232000-28082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Over
      the years, this subject has come up many times and the best cleaner mentioned
      each time has been a little gasoline on a rag.  Clean the stain
      with gasoline, then wipe it off and wash the surface with a little water. It
      sounds counter-intuitive, but previous list members say it works well.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=282232000-28082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=282232000-28082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Clem</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=282232000-28082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Lawton,
      OK</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=282232000-28082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>KF IV-912</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>George Wells@adelphia.net<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:18 PM<BR><B>To:</B> kitfox-list@matronics.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 5, when
      the tanks are topped off the caps seep staining the wing with gas. I
      have tried new caps but they still seep. Does anyone have a solution for
      this ??</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also what is good to clean the stain? I have tried
      all kinds of cleaners.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks</FONT></DIV><PRE><B><FONT face="courier new,courier"
      color=#000000 size=2>
      
      
      </B></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE><B><FONT face="courier new,courier" size=2 color000000?>
      
      
      </B></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE>
      
      
      <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier">
      
      
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| Subject:  | Gas Caps Leakage | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net>
      
      The subject of gas stains keeps coming up every few years on this list.
      In the past, several members have said that fresh gasoline on a rag will
      remove the stains. They've said to wipe it on the stain, then wipe it
      off while it is still wet. Then clean the fabric with water. This sounds
      counter-intuitive, but it supposedly works, though I haven't tried it. 
      
      In a similar situation, someone wrote on our office whiteboard with
      permanent marker instead of a dry erase marker. Nothing would get it off
      except tracing over the marks with a new permanent marker, then wiping
      it off while it was still wet. Worked great. Kinda the same idea with
      our gas stains. 
      
      Clem
      Lawton, OK
      KFIV, 912
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      mdps_mc@swoca.net
      Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:44 PM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: mdps_mc@swoca.net
      
      There was someone that said a mixture of diet mountian dew and I think
      maybe baking soda. Sounds a bit strange but I never tried it.  This
      comment was made on this list. Mike
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: "George Wells@adelphia.net" <georgewells@adelphia.net>
      To:kitfox-list@matronics.com
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      
      On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 5,when the tanks are
      topped off the caps seep staining the wing with gas.I have tried new
      caps but they still seep. Does anyone have a solution for this ?? 
      Also what is good to clean the stain? I have tried all kinds of
      cleaners. 
      ----------------
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| Subject:  | Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
      
      I took my Model IV to a weld shop and had them copied in the larger size.  I
      may have the lighter mod IV struts available but don't know if they fit and
      I suppose shipping would be terribly high.  Bob u.
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:28 AM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
      >
      > Hi All:
      >
      > "My Kitfox" new owner is currently performing a
      > complete restoration.  He already applied sand
      > blasting to the fuselage, and the applied an epoxy
      > primer and a polyurethane coat.  It is in good shape.
      >
      >
      > The wing lift struts however are a different story.
      > When he attempted to remove the bracket that attachs
      > the jury strut to the wing lift strut, he found that
      > the strut was heavily corroded.  He said I'm lucky to
      > be alive.  I flew this plane for the last time on
      > December 2004, and then it was for one and a half year
      > on my backyard, exposed.  This rust may have developed
      > during that time frame.  I will never know.
      >
      > What really matters is that now I need a pair of Wing
      > Lift Struts and Jury struts for a Kitfox II.  I have
      > some questions regarding my alternatives:
      > - Could I adapt Model IV wing lift struts to a model
      > II?
      > - Could I get a pair of Model II wing lift struts and
      > jury struts from John McBean/Kitfox LLC?
      > - Do any of you have a pair of Model II wing lift
      > struts in good shape for sale?  Please not rust!!!
      >
      > Thanks for your support!!!
      >
      > Jos Toro
      >
      >
      > __________________________________________________
      >
      >
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com>
      
      NBC is soliciting votes for best photo.
      
      All photos are amazing!
      The attached photo is from the collection 
      I recieved this larger view from a friend.
      Now, imagine the same display with 5 Kitfoxes :)
      --------------------------------------------------
      Check out the photos at:
      http://www.msnbc.com/modules/yip05/dw.asp?nStartOn=1
      NBC - 2005 - Year in Pictures
      Click 'Your Vote' tab..... to view small images.
      
      Do not archive
      
      --------
      Richard in SW Michigan
      Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=58019#58019
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/vortex_163.jpg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass | 
      strip
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
      
      I think IF I had access to one of the "plug aerators" or what ever they are
      called I would consider burning the old grass down with 2 to 3 quarts of
      Roundup 4lb. per acre and reseed without tilling.  Just drag the plugs
      around into the holes.  The one I saw used generated quite a bit of soil
      from the loosened plugs and with the Grass killed prior to running the
      aerator, I'm betting you could get a pretty good grass stand and have not
      washing.  Bob U.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 9:26 AM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice
      grass strip
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      >
      > depends on the disc and soil.
      > Like  I said I would do as little as possible and try to rule out disc or
      > ploughing if possible.
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
      > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:51 AM
      > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice
      > grass strip
      >
      >
      > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
      > > <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
      > >
      > > You will likely have a mess if you try disking sod first.  Bob U.
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > > From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      > > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:26 PM
      > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a
      nice
      > > grass strip
      > >
      > >
      > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      > >>
      > >> If the field is  usuable now I would do  as little as possible but
      remove
      > >> rocks and fill in the holes if not alot.
      > >> If too many possbily follow Deke's reco and work it up.
      > >> If it got solid ground cover you wil have to disc it and cultivate and
      > >> harrow at least.
      > >> You might have to plough it first depending on how  the disc works.
      > >> The more you work it , the more rocks you will be picking over the next
      > > year
      > >> or two.
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >> Dave
      > >>
      > >>
      > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
      > >> From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
      > >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > >> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:15 PM
      > >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice
      > > grass
      > >> strip
      > >>
      > >>
      > >> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >> I guess they were just talking about grading your proposed runway ?
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> > That's correct.
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >> How smooth or rough is your field now ?
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> > With the tundra tires on my kitfox now, I coul'd probably use it as
      is
      > > but
      > >> > I imagine that it would wear the airplane after a while and wouldn't
      be
      > >> > much fun.
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> > Read this topic online here:
      > >> >
      > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57322#57322
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | 912 lubrication system question | 
      
      
       I thought at one time I read on this list that someone had modified the lubrication
      system on a 912 with a check valve to reduce or stop oil migration from
      the remote sump to the crankcase when the engine was not operating. I would be
      interested in learning more of about this modification if in fact it has been
      accomplished.
      
      Thanks
      
      Bill W. Classic IV 912ul
      ________________________________________________________________________
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
      
      Bob:
      
      By lighter and larger, do you mean different diameter?
      I've been told that the wing lift struts are different
      in model II and IV.  However, if the Model IV struts
      can be adapted to the Model II, I'm willing to buy a
      new pair.  
      
      I probably won't be able to copy my actual struts to
      build new ones since one is longer than the other, and
      I know for sure that both were incorrectly installed,
      which means that probably both were wrong in terms of
      length and angle.  You won't believe how beautiful
      this Kitfox used to fly with incorrectly installed
      wing lift struts.  Our goal now is to do it right as
      part of the restoration.
      
      regards!
      
      Jose 
      
      --- Bob Unternaehrer <shilocom@mcmsys.com> wrote:
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob
      > Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
      > 
      > I took my Model IV to a weld shop and had them
      > copied in the larger size.  I
      > may have the lighter mod IV struts available but
      > don't know if they fit and
      > I suppose shipping would be terribly high.  Bob u.
      > 
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
      > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:28 AM
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift
      > Struts
      > 
      > 
      > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro"
      > <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
      > >
      > > Hi All:
      > >
      > > "My Kitfox" new owner is currently performing a
      > > complete restoration.  He already applied sand
      > > blasting to the fuselage, and the applied an epoxy
      > > primer and a polyurethane coat.  It is in good
      > shape.
      > >
      > >
      > > The wing lift struts however are a different
      > story.
      > > When he attempted to remove the bracket that
      > attachs
      > > the jury strut to the wing lift strut, he found
      > that
      > > the strut was heavily corroded.  He said I'm lucky
      > to
      > > be alive.  I flew this plane for the last time on
      > > December 2004, and then it was for one and a half
      > year
      > > on my backyard, exposed.  This rust may have
      > developed
      > > during that time frame.  I will never know.
      > >
      > > What really matters is that now I need a pair of
      > Wing
      > > Lift Struts and Jury struts for a Kitfox II.  I
      > have
      > > some questions regarding my alternatives:
      > > - Could I adapt Model IV wing lift struts to a
      > model
      > > II?
      > > - Could I get a pair of Model II wing lift struts
      > and
      > > jury struts from John McBean/Kitfox LLC?
      > > - Do any of you have a pair of Model II wing lift
      > > struts in good shape for sale?  Please not rust!!!
      > >
      > > Thanks for your support!!!
      > >
      > > Jos Toro
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > __________________________________________________
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > 
      > 
      >
      > browse
      > Subscriptions page,
      > FAQ,
      > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
      >
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      >
      >
      > Admin.
      >
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      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Simple Green question | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
      
      Plain old Simple Green.
      
      It works well on any kind of stain but you certainly 
      don't want to use it for general cleaning unless it's 
      diluted as directed.  I use it undiluted for fuel 
      stains.
      
      I only use it on paint stains or for degreasing 
      personally as the stuff is quite hardy.  Also, don't 
      use it on any raw or polished aluminum.
      
      Regards,
      
      Ted
      
      
      --- Original Message ---
      From: "Wayne Cahoon" <wayne@engravers.net>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Simple Green question
      
      >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Wayne Cahoon" 
      <wayne@engravers.net>
      >
      >Hey,
      >
      >Are you talking about the same "Extreme Simple 
      Green", "Aircraft and 
      >Precision Cleaner" that was given away at Sun N' 
      Fun? Or are you talking 
      >about the standard stuff that you can get at any 
      local store?
      >
      >Wayne Cahoon
      >Aircraft Engravers
      >(860) 653-2780 ph
      >(860) 653-7324 fax
      >http://www.engravers.net/
      >
      >----- Original Message ----- 
      >From: "Floran Higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net>
      >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      >Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:00 AM
      >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      >
      >
      >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Floran 
      Higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net>
      >>
      >> I also found that simple green will etch the 
      windshield
      >> Floran H.
      >> ----- Original Message ----- 
      >> From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      >> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 7:45 PM
      >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      >>
      >>
      >>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" 
      >>> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      >>>
      >>> Simple Green is great for removing stains, bugs, 
      grease, etc.  However, 
      >>> let
      >>> me warn you.  That stuff is incredibly 
      corrosive.  Spray a little on a
      >>> camlock and watch what happens to it in a couple 
      days.  So if you decide 
      >>> to
      >>> use the stuff, just ensure you keep it away from 
      metal parts, or give 
      >>> them a
      >>> good rinse when you're finished.
      >>> Deke
      >>>
      >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
      >>> From: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
      >>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      >>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:20 PM
      >>> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" 
      <flier@sbcglobal.net>
      >>>>
      >>>> Simple Green works the best and will take the 
      stains right off.
      >>>>
      >>>> -----Original Message-----
      >>>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      >>>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]
      On Behalf Of
      >>>> mdps_mc@swoca.net
      >>>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:44 PM
      >>>> To: Kitfox
      >>>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: 
      mdps_mc@swoca.net
      >>>>
      >>>> There was someone that said a mixture of diet 
      mountian dew and I think
      >>> maybe
      >>>> baking soda. Sounds a bit strange but I never 
      tried it.  This comment 
      >>>> was
      >>>> made on this list.
      >>>> Mike
      >>>>
      >>>> -----Original Message-----
      >>>> From: "George Wells@adelphia.net" 
      <georgewells@adelphia.net>
      >>>> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:17:38
      >>>> To:kitfox-list@matronics.com
      >>>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      >>>>
      >>>> On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 
      5, when the tanks are
      >>>> topped off the caps seep staining the wing with 
      gas. I have tried new 
      >>>> caps
      >>>> but they still seep. Does anyone have a solution 
      for this ??
      >>>> Also what is good to clean the stain? I have 
      tried all kinds of 
      >>>> cleaners.
      >>>> ----------------
      >>>>  This message has been scanned for Viruses and 
      cleared by MailMarshal at
      >>>> SWOCA.
      >>>> ----------------
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> 
      >
      >
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      well, I tried. couldn't register on the forum as there was no view of the  
      confimation code. Anyway, this is me.
      Greg Gerace
      47
      model II 
      582 greyhead
      c drive
      gsc three blade
      tailchaser,er,dragger
      home field-23NK Long acre farm
      Macedon.N.Y.
      
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| Subject:  | NSI EA81 Turbo Manual | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
      
      Do any of you have a NSI EA81 Turbo engine manual?  I have sold my 
      engine to Mike Couillard and I am trying to get documents together 
      for him.  Mike is a member of the Kitfox List, is building a Model 5 
      Kitfox, and is an ex Air Force pilot.  He is also a glider pilot.  He 
      lives in Colorado Springs not too far from me.
      
      In looking for the manual in my archives, I did find one on the NSI 
      dual ignition system I did not realize I had.  I do have a lot of 
      other NSI manuals and if anyone needs one, I would be happy to copy 
      it for them.
      
      Jim Crowder
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
      
      The old ones I think, if my memory serves me right were 7/8" dia but were
      smaller than the new ones for sure.  Have NO idea if Mod IV struts fits the
      MOD II.  You would have to go to Kitfox for that.  Bob U>
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 1:14 PM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
      >
      > Bob:
      >
      > By lighter and larger, do you mean different diameter?
      > I've been told that the wing lift struts are different
      > in model II and IV.  However, if the Model IV struts
      > can be adapted to the Model II, I'm willing to buy a
      > new pair.
      >
      > I probably won't be able to copy my actual struts to
      > build new ones since one is longer than the other, and
      > I know for sure that both were incorrectly installed,
      > which means that probably both were wrong in terms of
      > length and angle.  You won't believe how beautiful
      > this Kitfox used to fly with incorrectly installed
      > wing lift struts.  Our goal now is to do it right as
      > part of the restoration.
      >
      > regards!
      >
      > Jose
      >
      > --- Bob Unternaehrer <shilocom@mcmsys.com> wrote:
      >
      > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob
      > > Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
      > >
      > > I took my Model IV to a weld shop and had them
      > > copied in the larger size.  I
      > > may have the lighter mod IV struts available but
      > > don't know if they fit and
      > > I suppose shipping would be terribly high.  Bob u.
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > > From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
      > > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:28 AM
      > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift
      > > Struts
      > >
      > >
      > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro"
      > > <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
      > > >
      > > > Hi All:
      > > >
      > > > "My Kitfox" new owner is currently performing a
      > > > complete restoration.  He already applied sand
      > > > blasting to the fuselage, and the applied an epoxy
      > > > primer and a polyurethane coat.  It is in good
      > > shape.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > The wing lift struts however are a different
      > > story.
      > > > When he attempted to remove the bracket that
      > > attachs
      > > > the jury strut to the wing lift strut, he found
      > > that
      > > > the strut was heavily corroded.  He said I'm lucky
      > > to
      > > > be alive.  I flew this plane for the last time on
      > > > December 2004, and then it was for one and a half
      > > year
      > > > on my backyard, exposed.  This rust may have
      > > developed
      > > > during that time frame.  I will never know.
      > > >
      > > > What really matters is that now I need a pair of
      > > Wing
      > > > Lift Struts and Jury struts for a Kitfox II.  I
      > > have
      > > > some questions regarding my alternatives:
      > > > - Could I adapt Model IV wing lift struts to a
      > > model
      > > > II?
      > > > - Could I get a pair of Model II wing lift struts
      > > and
      > > > jury struts from John McBean/Kitfox LLC?
      > > > - Do any of you have a pair of Model II wing lift
      > > > struts in good shape for sale?  Please not rust!!!
      > > >
      > > > Thanks for your support!!!
      > > >
      > > > Jos Toro
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > __________________________________________________
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > browse
      > > Subscriptions page,
      > > FAQ,
      > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
      > >
      > > Web Forums!
      > >
      > >
      > > Admin.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      > __________________________________________________
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 912 lubrication system question | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com>
      
      How long are you letting the engine sit.  Reason why I ask is because this is not
      an issue with me.  Of course I only have let it sit for no more than 3 days
      at a time.  When I do go and start I first turn the prop over for 3 compression
      strokes to make sure the engine isn't locked up, then I crank the engine(mags
      off) until engine pressure is reading(about 6sec), then I stop turn on the
      mags and fire away, fly away.
      
      --------
      kitfoxmike
      kitfox4 1200 912ul speedster
      http://www.frappr.com/kitfoxmike
      rv7 wingkit
      reserved 287RV
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=58088#58088
      
      
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| Subject:  | Classic IV for sale | 
      
      It's funny, everytime I mention my Kitfox for sale I get 2-3 new 
      responses.  So, I thought I'd try it one more time before I went off 
      list with the advertisement.  So far, I have had close to a dozen 
      request for information from the list and only one serious taker (that 
      one fizzled due to he wanted more speed).
      
      Don Smythe
      
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| Subject:  | Re: model 3 tires | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com>
      
      look at the Kenda tire 20x7x8 they are only 20. for each . I buy mine from 
      rocky mountain atv
      www.rockymountainatvmc.com
      1-800-336-5437
      they are great and with the lugs work wonderful they are not like the cheng 
      shin original tires that are stripped of the lugs , by the way the cheng 
      shin tires only cost 20. each and resell for 115. each when trimmed of the 
      lugs .
      
      John Perry
      kitfox 2 N718PD
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
      Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:19 AM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: model 3 tires
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
      >
      > Tractor supply has 20.00 x7.00 x8 tires for about $55.00 with knobs in 6
      > rows around the tire.  about 150 / 200 total.  is there an easy way to
      > remove them?
      >
      > regards,
      >
      > Joe
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice grass | 
      strip
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
      
      Yes, you can do a lot by just filling the low spots with soil from the high 
      and re seed. Our planes don't need rolling green surfaces and if you don't 
      get too carried away with the process you can make ongoing improvements.
      
      
      From:  "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      Subject:  Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice 
      grass strip
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      
      depends on the disc and soil.
      Like  I said I would do as little as possible and try to rule out disc or 
      ploughing if possible.
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
      Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:51 AM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice 
      grass strip
      
      
      >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
      >
      >You will likely have a mess if you try disking sod first.  Bob U.
      >
      >----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      >Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:26 PM
      >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice
      >grass strip
      >
      >
      >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      >>
      >>If the field is  usuable now I would do  as little as possible but remove
      >>rocks and fill in the holes if not alot.
      >>If too many possbily follow Deke's reco and work it up.
      >>If it got solid ground cover you wil have to disc it and cultivate and
      >>harrow at least.
      >>You might have to plough it first depending on how  the disc works.
      >>The more you work it , the more rocks you will be picking over the next
      >year
      >>or two.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>Dave
      >>
      >>
      >>----- Original Message ----- From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
      >>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      >>Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:15 PM
      >>Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help turning a rough field into a nice
      >grass
      >>strip
      >>
      >>
      >> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >> I guess they were just talking about grading your proposed runway ?
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > That's correct.
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >> How smooth or rough is your field now ?
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > With the tundra tires on my kitfox now, I coul'd probably use it as is
      >but
      >> > I imagine that it would wear the airplane after a while and wouldn't be
      >> > much fun.
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > Read this topic online here:
      >> >
      >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57322#57322
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
      _________________________________________________________________
      Need more speed? Get Xtra Broadband @ 
      http://jetstream.xtra.co.nz/chm/0,,202853-1000,00.html
      
      
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| Subject:  | NSI EA81 Turbo Manual | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
      
      Yes Jim, I have a copy of the EA81 Turbo supliment manual. John A.
      
      
      From: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI EA81 Turbo Manual
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
      
      Do any of you have a NSI EA81 Turbo engine manual?  I have sold my engine to 
      Mike Couillard and I am trying to get documents together for him.  Mike is a 
      member of the Kitfox List, is building a Model 5 Kitfox, and is an ex Air 
      Force pilot.  He is also a glider pilot.  He lives in Colorado Springs not 
      too far from me.
      
      In looking for the manual in my archives, I did find one on the NSI dual 
      ignition system I did not realize I had.  I do have a lot of other NSI 
      manuals and if anyone needs one, I would be happy to copy it for them.
      
      Jim Crowder
      
      
      _________________________________________________________________
      Discover fun and games at  @  http://xtramsn.co.nz/kids
      
      
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| Subject:  | kitfox makes  landing on hiway | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com>
      
      http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/aviation/story/8131816p-8024248c.html
      
      just read this  kitfox makes safe landing with mother aboard when engine 
      sputters due to water in fuel pilot says .
      HMMMMM a taildragger landing safe again lol.
      
      John Perry
      Kitfox 2 N718PD
      taildragger forever 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: model 3 tires | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      
      http://www.mipowerparachute.com/Tires.html
      
      read that 40$ each
      
      no idea why you would mess around removing lugs.
      
      Also --seach out gold cart wheels  16.5 or 18.5 should work fine on   8 " 
      rim .
      
      
      Dave
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com>
      Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:28 PM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: model 3 tires
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com>
      >
      > look at the Kenda tire 20x7x8 they are only 20. for each . I buy mine from 
      > rocky mountain atv
      > www.rockymountainatvmc.com
      > 1-800-336-5437
      > they are great and with the lugs work wonderful they are not like the 
      > cheng shin original tires that are stripped of the lugs , by the way the 
      > cheng shin tires only cost 20. each and resell for 115. each when trimmed 
      > of the lugs .
      >
      > John Perry
      > kitfox 2 N718PD
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
      > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:19 AM
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: model 3 tires
      >
      >
      >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
      >>
      >> Tractor supply has 20.00 x7.00 x8 tires for about $55.00 with knobs in 6
      >> rows around the tire.  about 150 / 200 total.  is there an easy way to
      >> remove them?
      >>
      >> regards,
      >>
      >> Joe
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Gas Caps Leakage | 
      
      John:
      
      What is RTV?  By the way, I've tried using gasoline on a rag to clean 
      the stain off with no luck.  The Mean Green which I've used, (and 
      obviously the Simple Green as well) does a great job.  Just be careful 
      where you spray it, and rinse thoroughly as soon as the stain is 
      removed.
      
      Clem Nichols
      Do Not Archive
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
        To: kitfox-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:43 AM
        Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      
      
        I'll try to address the seepage problem, though others may have done 
      so.  The cap as provided is 'layered" with the inside layer have two 
      vents in addition to the pitot vent tube.  These vents access the 
      outside via 4 crips in the circumference ov the inner layer. All six 
      opening need to be sealed with RTV or other medium.  The replacement of 
      the gasket with a Mercedes part and the above sealing have kept my wings 
      stain free for the last 6 years.
      
        John Kerr
      
          -------------- Original message -------------- 
          From: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net> 
      
          Over the years, this subject has come up many times and the best 
      cleaner mentioned each time has been a little gasoline on a rag.  Clean 
      the stain with gasoline, then wipe it off and wash the surface with a 
      little water. It sounds counter-intuitive, but previous list members say 
      it works well.
      
          Clem
          Lawton, OK
          KF IV-912
      
            -----Original Message-----
            From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George 
      Wells@adelphia.net
            Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:18 PM
            To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
            Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      
      
            On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 5, when the tanks 
      are topped off the caps seep staining the wing with gas. I have tried 
      new caps but they still seep. Does anyone have a solution for this ??
            Also what is good to clean the stain? I have tried all kinds of 
      cleaners.
            Thanks
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: model 3 tires | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com>
      
      all these tires are only 2 ply , which is why i like the kenda tire with the 
      straight lug they deflect the stickers and catus and goat heads and such . I 
      no longer have flats to deal with lol . also the 2 ply tires quickly wear 
      out on pavement if doing alot of flying and your gear is not tracked right .
      
      Just my humble opinion and noone made me say these things .
      John Perry
      Kitfox 2 N718PDF
      fly safe fly low fly slow and have FUN
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:28 PM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: model 3 tires
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
      >
      > http://www.mipowerparachute.com/Tires.html
      >
      > read that 40$ each
      >
      > no idea why you would mess around removing lugs.
      >
      > Also --seach out gold cart wheels  16.5 or 18.5 should work fine on   8 " 
      > rim .
      >
      >
      > Dave
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com>
      > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:28 PM
      > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: model 3 tires
      >
      >
      >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com>
      >>
      >> look at the Kenda tire 20x7x8 they are only 20. for each . I buy mine 
      >> from rocky mountain atv
      >> www.rockymountainatvmc.com
      >> 1-800-336-5437
      >> they are great and with the lugs work wonderful they are not like the 
      >> cheng shin original tires that are stripped of the lugs , by the way the 
      >> cheng shin tires only cost 20. each and resell for 115. each when trimmed 
      >> of the lugs .
      >>
      >> John Perry
      >> kitfox 2 N718PD
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message ----- 
      >> From: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
      >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      >> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:19 AM
      >> Subject: Kitfox-List: model 3 tires
      >>
      >>
      >>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "joe" <joe@arin.k12.pa.us>
      >>>
      >>> Tractor supply has 20.00 x7.00 x8 tires for about $55.00 with knobs in 6
      >>> rows around the tire.  about 150 / 200 total.  is there an easy way to
      >>> remove them?
      >>>
      >>> regards,
      >>>
      >>> Joe
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Heavily Corroded Wing Lift Struts | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net>
      
       The model IV struts are longer than the model II since the bracket 
      location is further out on the spar.. I could get you dimensions if you 
      need them.
      Rex
      Colorado
      
      
      Bob Unternaehrer wrote:
      
      >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
      >
      >The old ones I think, if my memory serves me right were 7/8" dia but were
      >smaller than the new ones for sure.  Have NO idea if Mod IV struts fits the
      >MOD II.  You would have to go to Kitfox for that.  Bob U>
      >
      >-
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Gas Caps Leakage | 
      
      I use red thunder to clean my stains . it is a biodegradable product and 
      does not mar or leave any residue when waiped and washed off leaves a 
      perfect shine . also friendly to aluminum 
      http://www.malcopro.com/cgi-win/mallist.exe/Cleaning
      I have used it on the fuel stains after the stains sitting for months 
      and it takes them right off.
      look these products up i really think you all will like them . 
      
      John Perry 
      Kitfox 2 { still a tail dragger }
      fly safe fly low fly slow and have FUN
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kitfox for sale | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Galt" <johngalt.0@gmail.com>
      
      Thanks Don.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=58140#58140
      
      
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| Subject:  | Demo ride in So. California? | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "rudderdancer" <jhenryhall@mac.com>
      
      Hi all, 
      I have searched the forum but haven't found anything relating where a demo ride
      in a Kitfox might be found in So. California.  I'm a former Stinson 108-1 owner/pilot
      that is very interested in a Kitfox or Avid.  If anyone can point me
      in the right direction to finding a demo ride, doesn't have to be for long, just
      around the patch will do, I would appreciated it.
      Thanks,
      Jack 
      Victorville, CA.
      jhenryhall@mac.com
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=58152#58152
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Gas Caps Leakage | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
      
      Silicon sealer but I wouldn't use it with gas. Proseal would be better IMHO. 
      John A.
      
      
      From: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      
      John:
      
      What is RTV?  By the way, I've tried using gasoline on a rag to clean the 
      stain off with no luck.  The Mean Green which I've used, (and obviously the 
      Simple Green as well) does a great job.  Just be careful where you spray it, 
      and rinse thoroughly as soon as the stain is removed.
      
      Clem Nichols
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         ----- Original Message -----
         From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
         To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
         Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:43 AM
         Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      
      
         I'll try to address the seepage problem, though others may have done so.  
      The cap as provided is 'layered" with the inside layer have two vents in 
      addition to the pitot vent tube.  These vents access the outside via 4 crips 
      in the circumference ov the inner layer. All six opening need to be sealed 
      with RTV or other medium.  The replacement of the gasket with a Mercedes 
      part and the above sealing have kept my wings stain free for the last 6 
      years.
      
         John Kerr
      
           -------------- Original message --------------
           From: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net>
      
           Over the years, this subject has come up many times and the best 
      cleaner mentioned each time has been a little gasoline on a rag.  Clean the 
      stain with gasoline, then wipe it off and wash the surface with a little 
      water. It sounds counter-intuitive, but previous list members say it works 
      well.
      
           Clem
           Lawton, OK
           KF IV-912
      
             -----Original Message-----
             From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George 
      Wells@adelphia.net
             Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:18 PM
             To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
             Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas Caps Leakage
      
      
             On both of the past 2 KF's I have had, a 4 and a 5, when the tanks 
      are topped off the caps seep staining the wing with gas. I have tried new 
      caps but they still seep. Does anyone have a solution for this ??
             Also what is good to clean the stain? I have tried all kinds of 
      cleaners.
             Thanks
      
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