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1. 05:03 AM - Re: Bent Model IV for sale (Tc9008@aol.com)
2. 05:08 AM - floats (George)
3. 05:56 AM - Re: Fuel feed problem (Barry West)
4. 06:20 AM - Re: Fuel feed problem (PWilson)
5. 06:23 AM - Re: Fuel feed problem (PWilson)
6. 07:57 AM - Re: Fuel feed problem (Roger McConnell)
7. 08:38 AM - Re: Fuel feed problem (PWilson)
8. 08:47 AM - Re: Fuel feed problem (Don Smythe)
9. 08:49 AM - Re: floats (Shane Sather)
10. 08:55 AM - Re: floats (Shane Sather)
11. 11:07 AM - Re: Fuel feed problem (Clint Bazzill)
12. 11:14 AM - Re: Fuel feed problem (Clint Bazzill)
13. 11:23 AM - Re: Jabiru 2200 conversion (Clint Bazzill)
14. 11:55 AM - Re: Jabiru 2200 conversion (Michel Verheughe)
15. 02:04 PM - Re: Fuel feed problem (Lynn Matteson)
16. 04:55 PM - Re: 912 ul compression? (Rexster)
17. 06:53 PM - Re: Fuel feed problem (PWilson)
18. 11:12 PM - SELLING KITFOX SKYSTAR VIXEN (lemontree3)
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| Subject: | Re: Bent Model IV for sale |
I am interested in the landing gear
Travis
1-800-273-1219
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I am new to the list but no doubt this is an old subject. I own a 2001
IV classic with a 582 and want to buy floats. I hear Full Lotus are the
toughest but not as efficient as the others. Is the engine powerful
enough to efficiently handle floats, incl. amphibs, at gross. Thanks
for your comments. George
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel feed problem |
Roger, it sounds like your right side fuel vent is blocked. It prevents
air entry and so retards fuel flow but at some point fuel does flow some
and this creates a vacuum that sucks the fuel from the other side.
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger McConnell
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 5:09 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel feed problem
I'm trying to understand if I have a problem or not. The fuel from the
left wing tank is being emptied before the fuel in the right tank even
starts to go down in my Model 7. Last week end after putting 5 gallons
in each tank; I notice that almost all the fuel had some how migrated
over to the right tank and only about two gallon was showing in the
left. I made a couple of steep turns to the left to try to get the fuel
to run back over to the left wing but nothing seems to happen. I'm
really not too concerned about it I just can't figure out why the fuel
seem to migrate over to the right wing. Even after the plane sits on
level ground for several days the fuel still will not equalize in each
tank. Is it possible that the vent line from the header tank to the
right wing tank is pinched and only allowing fuel flow from the left
tank first? Will the fuel begin to flow from the right tank after the
left tank is completely empty? Opinions please.
Roger Mac
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| Subject: | Fuel feed problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
Roger,
Maybe I missed it but did you tell us what kind of fuel lines you are
using. (Vent and fuel feeds). I think If it was my plane here is what
I would do:
Replace all the lines, the cap gasket as well as confirm that the cap
vent is truly open & the same on both caps. Examine the fittings at
the tank for obstructions when replacing the lines. Clean the finger
strainer and examine them both for similarity.
I would also look inside the tank for bad stuff. The fittings are
visible from the fuel filler opening. Use a mirror for close exam.
Regards, Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel feed problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
Good point. It sounds like he used a straight fitting instead of the
preferred 90 degree fitting at the vent to tank connection.
Paul
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At 06:57 AM 9/2/2006, you wrote:
>Roger, it sounds like your right side fuel vent is blocked. It
>prevents air entry and so retards fuel flow but at some point fuel
>does flow some and this creates a vacuum that sucks the fuel from
>the other side.
>
>Barry
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| Subject: | Fuel feed problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Paul,
The lines are what was supplied from Skystar back in '02, automotive
grade is my guess. The vent tube is clear tygon, either 1/4 or 3/8. I'm
thinking that I do have a blocked vent tube. I'll try to check that in the
next day or two. I probable need to go with a 90 degree fitting at the tank.
Thanks for your help.
Roger
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PWilson
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 8:14 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel feed problem
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
Roger,
Maybe I missed it but did you tell us what kind of fuel lines you are
using. (Vent and fuel feeds). I think If it was my plane here is what
I would do:
Replace all the lines, the cap gasket as well as confirm that the cap
vent is truly open & the same on both caps. Examine the fittings at
the tank for obstructions when replacing the lines. Clean the finger
strainer and examine them both for similarity.
I would also look inside the tank for bad stuff. The fittings are
visible from the fuel filler opening. Use a mirror for close exam.
Regards, Paul
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| Subject: | Fuel feed problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
If you have trouble finding a swivel fitting try the local farm store
that sells hydraulic fittings. The hose supplied by Skystar in that
time frame was Mil 6000 hose - bad stuff for most locals when using
auto gas. The hose will be properly labeled whether auto hose or Mil
hose. My recommendation - Replace all hose with SAE R-7 or R-9,
including the vent. Some R-9 is much stiffer than others. Check
several auto supply places.
The thing to remember if one is using auto gas is that some places
have very chemically bad stuff. I just read that there are now 50
formulations of gas used in the US. This may explain why some guys
get away with using the Mil hose.
Good luck, Paul
==================
At 08:56 AM 9/2/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
>Paul,
> The lines are what was supplied from Skystar back in '02, automotive
>grade is my guess. The vent tube is clear tygon, either 1/4 or 3/8. I'm
>thinking that I do have a blocked vent tube. I'll try to check that in the
>next day or two. I probable need to go with a 90 degree fitting at the tank.
> Thanks for your help.
>Roger
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PWilson
>Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 8:14 AM
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel feed problem
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
>
>Roger,
>Maybe I missed it but did you tell us what kind of fuel lines you are
>using. (Vent and fuel feeds). I think If it was my plane here is what
>I would do:
>Replace all the lines, the cap gasket as well as confirm that the cap
>vent is truly open & the same on both caps. Examine the fittings at
>the tank for obstructions when replacing the lines. Clean the finger
>strainer and examine them both for similarity.
>I would also look inside the tank for bad stuff. The fittings are
>visible from the fuel filler opening. Use a mirror for close exam.
>Regards, Paul
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel feed problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Roger,
Don't know what Skystar provided in 02 but would suspect MIL-6000 black.
The MIL-6000 will be marked as such on the line. If so, get rid of that
stuff anywhere it's used in the plane. I would recommend either clear
Polyurethane (from Spruce) or SAE-R7 (automotive line) or SAE-R9 (fuel
injection automotive line). The R9 injection line is more expensive but is
better with ethanol. I have used the clear Polyurethane line from Spruce
for several years. It works great but will discolor over time. I have read
a bunch of stuff on fuel lines and came to the conclusion that "clear Tygon"
is not fuel rated. Only the yellow Tygon is????
In my opinion, a blocked vent tube would not cause unequal tank drains
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel feed problem
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
> Paul,
> The lines are what was supplied from Skystar back in '02, automotive
> grade is my guess. The vent tube is clear tygon, either 1/4 or 3/8. I'm
> thinking that I do have a blocked vent tube. I'll try to check that in the
> next day or two. I probable need to go with a 90 degree fitting at the
> tank.
> Thanks for your help.
> Roger
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PWilson
> Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 8:14 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel feed problem
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
>
> Roger,
> Maybe I missed it but did you tell us what kind of fuel lines you are
> using. (Vent and fuel feeds). I think If it was my plane here is what
> I would do:
> Replace all the lines, the cap gasket as well as confirm that the cap
> vent is truly open & the same on both caps. Examine the fittings at
> the tank for obstructions when replacing the lines. Clean the finger
> strainer and examine them both for similarity.
> I would also look inside the tank for bad stuff. The fittings are
> visible from the fuel filler opening. Use a mirror for close exam.
> Regards, Paul
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel feed problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
test
From: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel feed problem
I'm trying to understand if I have a problem or not. The fuel from the left
wing tank is being emptied before the fuel in the right tank even starts to
go down in my Model 7. Last week end after putting 5 gallons in each tank;
I notice that almost all the fuel had some how migrated over to the right
tank and only about two gallon was showing in the left. I made a couple of
steep turns to the left to try to get the fuel to run back over to the left
wing but nothing seems to happen. I'm really not too concerned about it I
just can't figure out why the fuel seem to migrate over to the right wing.
Even after the plane sits on level ground for several days the fuel still
will not equalize in each tank. Is it possible that the vent line from the
header tank to the right wing tank is pinched and only allowing fuel flow
from the left tank first? Will the fuel begin to flow from the right tank
after the left tank is completely empty? Opinions please.
Roger Mac
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel feed problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
My tanks never are equal in fuel usage. However, the lower my fuel is the
more evenly they become. Clint
From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel feed problem
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 05:16 PM 9/1/2006, you wrote:
>Realizing this, it's easy to see that fuel might be
>transported from "high" pressure side to "lo" pressure side. I.E. the
>differential pressure will transferee fuel (via the header tank) to the
>other tank.
I ran some numbers. If there's a 4 inch difference in surface height between
the two tanks, that corresponds to about 0.1 psi pressure head. That
pressure head corresponds to about 75 mph differential velocity between the
two pitot vents. In my case that would mean one pitot was blocked
completely! (Which we know would be a problem.) I'd guess you'd never get
more than 10% velocity variation between the two pitot. (Remember, any
variation would have to be extremely local, else you'd get a lift variation
between the two wings and subsequent roll.)
Since the tanks are about 60" apart, center to center, it takes about 1
degree of roll to generate 1" of pressure head. (That's about 7" difference
in wing-tip height.) You'd therefore have to fly around with 4 degrees of
roll, (28" at the tip,) to empty one tank. That's pretty extreme.
What does it all mean? I HAVE NO IDEA! (My tanks don't equalize either so
I'm trying to figure it out - for purely academic purposes, you understand.)
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Jabiru 2200 conversion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
Hi, I looked at the pictures, nice. I thought that the Jabiru turned the
opposite to normal engines. Your picture shows a normal turning prop.
Clint
From: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Jabiru 2200 conversion
Hi
Here are a few photos of the cowl on my Model4 with Jab 2200.
The main changes on this installation relate to a bump on the Pass side
front cowl (about 4" x 2" to clear the No.1 rocker cover and cut outs in the
ring cowl to fit the inlets in the to ram air ducts. The rest of the front
opening is closed using clear lexan so that the cowling is not pressurized.
There is also additional opening and some aluminum fairings in the bottom of
the cowl to allow sufficient air flow through the cowl.
Like Michel my CHT and oil temps run on the low side of recommended
operating range.
If you would like more detailed photos I would be happy to send them off
line
Regards
Gary Algate
Model4 Jab2200
I have a Rotax 912 14 yr old and want to swap to a 2200 Jabiru at overhaul
time.
Has anyone done this on a MIII round cowl ? how hard is it to do
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru 2200 conversion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Sep 2, 2006, at 8:22 PM, Clint Bazzill wrote:
> Hi, I looked at the pictures, nice. I thought that the Jabiru turned
> the opposite to normal engines. Your picture shows a normal turning
> prop. Clint
Indeed, the Jabiru turns in the "normal" way, that is, you have to
press right pedal when you take off. The only engines that turn the
prop the other way are the two-strokes Rotax, as far as I know. Another
thing that is "normal" with the Jabiru is that, if the throttle cable
breaks, a spring will keep the carburettor to WOT, and not idle like
the 582.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel feed problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Paul-
In my IV tanks, made in 1994, the vent opening is so close to the top
flange of the tank that it would be impossible to use a 90 fitting,
because you would not be able to rotate it. Where did you hear about
"the preferred 90 degree fitting"?...and what makes it preferable?
Lynn
On Saturday, September 2, 2006, at 09:22 AM, PWilson wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
>
> Good point. It sounds like he used a straight fitting instead of the
> preferred 90 degree fitting at the vent to tank connection.
> Paul
> =================
> At 06:57 AM 9/2/2006, you wrote:
>> Roger, it sounds like your right side fuel vent is blocked. It
>> prevents air entry and so retards fuel flow but at some point fuel
>> does flow some and this creates a vacuum that sucks the fuel from the
>> other side.
>>
>> Barry
>
>
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| Subject: | 912 ul compression? |
-- "John Banes" <JohnBanes@adelphia.net> wrote:
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I had a similar experience. While hand propping the 912ULS prior to fli
ght I noticed no compression on one of the cylinders. I spoke to a mech
anic at Lockwood Aviation who said that occasionally an intake valve whi
ch has a hydraulic lifter will not open while hand propping. However, on
ce the engine is rotated a sufficient speed the oil pressure in the lift
er is restored and the engine runs fine.
Regards,
John
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-s
erver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jay Fabian
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:03 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 ul compression?
Question?
I was at the airport today to go over my Kitfox, and I rotated the prop
in the proper direction to pump up the oil. It has been a week so I like
to keep it up top.
The problem is, I noticed that the prop spun VERY easy, with not much c
ompression. It was 70 deg outside, and I get some sort of compresion st
roke probably on one or two clynders, other than that it used to be hard
to prop by hand all the way around. 140 hours TT. It starts and runs
fine and within temps, mags ok too.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel feed problem |
Yes the vent is at the top of the tank under the
flange. One can use a swivel 90 deg fitting. Some
have female threads so one has to use a close
union In any event they are available .Check
hydraulic supply houses. Check the car nut places
like Earls. Attached is a couple of pics foe an
even easier way using AN fittings & a straight
swivel from the hydraulics house + soft Al tubing.
Paul
============
At 03:04 PM 9/2/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
>Paul-
>In my IV tanks, made in 1994, the vent opening
>is so close to the top flange of the tank that
>it would be impossible to use a 90=B0 fitting,
>because you would not be able to rotate it.
>Where did you hear about "the preferred 90
>degree fitting"?...and what makes it preferable?
>
>Lynn
>On Saturday, September 2, 2006, at 09:22 AM, PWilson wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
>>
>>Good point. It sounds like he used a straight
>>fitting instead of the preferred 90 degree
>>fitting at the vent to tank connection.
>> Paul
>>=================
>>At 06:57 AM 9/2/2006, you wrote:
>>>Roger, it sounds like your right side fuel
>>>vent is blocked. It prevents air entry and so
>>>retards fuel flow but at some point fuel does
>>>flow some and this creates a vacuum that sucks the fuel from the other
side.
>>>
>>>Barry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | SELLING KITFOX SKYSTAR VIXEN |
I have for sale my Kitfox Skystar Vixen , Tri gear , Eggenfellner 2.5L
100HP Subaru engine with a warp drive prop all new and is running on
airframe. It has extended wings and heavy struts and wheel pants. This
vixen was built with fast build kits. It needs cowl and fuselage cover,
the rest is done. I have all receipts. It can still be licensed as
owner/builder. Sell for $24,000. If interested in purchasing this
Kitfox Vixen - E-mail me for further information and phone number- This
plane is located in Northeast Michigan. Lemontree3
lemontree3@charter.net
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