---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 09/13/06: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:13 AM - [Off-topic] Flight to Germany (Michel Verheughe) 2. 01:39 AM - Re: [Off-topic] Flight to Germany (John Anderson) 3. 04:09 AM - Re: FW: Kitfox Fuel System (Fox5flyer) 4. 05:26 AM - Viewing Photos Posted By List Members (Howard) 5. 05:52 AM - Re: Viewing Photos Posted By List Members (Michel Verheughe) 6. 06:08 AM - Re: Viewing Photos Posted By List Members (Fox5flyer) 7. 06:37 AM - Re: [Off-topic] Flight to Germany (Dan Billingsley) 8. 07:46 AM - Re: Viewing Photos Posted By List Members (Don Pearsall) 9. 07:47 AM - Re: Viewing Photos Posted By List Members (PWilson) 10. 08:13 AM - Re: Heavy turtledeck option (Jerry Liles) 11. 09:09 AM - John & Debra (EMAproducts@aol.com) 12. 09:18 AM - Re: on fuel caps --what about fairings (Michael Gibbs) 13. 09:52 AM - Re: New Kitfox CFI (Ben Baltrusaitis) 14. 09:54 AM - added to list (Lowell Fitt) 15. 10:31 AM - Re: [Off-topic] Flight to Germany (Guy Buchanan) 16. 11:46 AM - Re: Re: on fuel caps --what about fairings (Dave) 17. 11:53 AM - Shunt on 912s (rocky) 18. 02:55 PM - Model IV assembly manual (Dave G.) 19. 06:54 PM - Re: Leaky fuel tanks. (kurt schrader) 20. 07:38 PM - Re: [Off-topic] Flight to Germany (Herbert R Gottelt) 21. 09:03 PM - Re: Shunt on 912s (John Oakley) 22. 10:36 PM - Leaky Sight Gauge O-rings Re: Leaky fuel tanks. (Robert Harris) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:13:34 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Kitfox-List: [Off-topic] Flight to Germany Hello guys, Here are some photos of my flight to Germany, last week-end. http://home.online.no/~michel/Busum/ Cheers, Michel do not archive
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:39:47 AM PST US From: "John Anderson" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: [Off-topic] Flight to Germany --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" Wonderful Michel, when you do your down under trip here to New Zealand, I'll show you some of our wonder scenery from Fox view too. John From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Kitfox-List: [Off-topic] Flight to Germany Hello guys, Here are some photos of my flight to Germany, last week-end. http://home.online.no/~michel/Busum/ Cheers, Michel do not archive
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________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:36 AM PST US From: "Fox5flyer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Viewing Photos Posted By List Members The photos being posted to the List are coming through OK on my machine Howard. Apparently you have a configuration problem. You need to get into your "tools" and poke around. Depends a lot on which email software you're using. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: Howard To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:25 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Viewing Photos Posted By List Members From time to time, I read a message regarding a post, and stating a photo is attached, or I have read messages where list members have discussed photos they have seen. Question...How do I view photos posted on the list. Thanks. Howard ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:06 AM PST US From: Dan Billingsley Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: [Off-topic] Flight to Germany Very cool Michel! Thanks for sharing the pictures. It is always nice to see trips like that for those of us that are still building... Dan, Mesa, AZ Michel Verheughe wrote: Hello guys, Here are some photos of my flight to Germany, last week-end. http://home.online.no/~michel/Busum/ Cheers, Michel do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:02 AM PST US From: "Don Pearsall" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Viewing Photos Posted By List Members I echo what the others have said. In addition, if you just have the digest version, the photos are stripped off the emails. You have to get individual emails to get photos. Don Pearsall _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Howard Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:25 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Viewing Photos Posted By List Members >From time to time, I read a message regarding a post, and stating a photo is attached, or I have read messages where list members have discussed photos they have seen. Question...How do I view photos posted on the list. Thanks. Howard ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:58 AM PST US From: PWilson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Viewing Photos Posted By List Members --> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson If they are in .jpg format just double click the link and your photo application should open them. Most times, depending on your email tool, the link will appear at the bottom of the text. Some tools put the link in the header? Have you verified that your settings are such that you have told your machine to not capture attachments? If so then the attachment icon in you mailbox list will not appear. PW =================== At 06:25 AM 9/13/2006, you wrote: > From time to time, I read a message regarding a post, and stating a > photo is attached, or I have read messages where list members have > discussed photos they have seen. > >Question...How do I view photos posted on the list. > >Thanks. > >Howard ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:36 AM PST US From: Jerry Liles Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Heavy turtledeck option --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles Make it out of sheet aluminum with some U channel stiffeners. Put in a small window of plexiglass if you want one. Weighs a heck of a lot less. All a clear rear deck does is add weight and let in extra heat in the summer and you really can't turn around to see out of it anyway. Now the overhead glass is wonderful for looking up and seeing into a turn. Wouldn't be without that. Jerry Liles Dave G. wrote: > I have a one piece turtledeck, as shown in the attached picture. It > must work well as it has many hours on it, but it weighs in at around > 5 lbs. Maybe this isn't a factor as I see they are now selling one > piece formed decks and they must weigh even more. What other options > have people used? Weight? Or should I just fly it as is. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:56 AM PST US From: EMAproducts@aol.com Subject: Kitfox-List: John & Debra I'm not a Kitfoxer, however know many of you through the internet and as customers. My dealings with John & Debra have been limited but in each contact I received the information I needed. I haven't bothered them since they started the huge enlargement of their business with the Kitfox. I would never have any problem recommending them to anybody. Elbie Fly the Safe Angle with the RiteAngle EM Aviation, LLC 13411 NE Prairie Rd Brush Prairie, WA 98696 www.riteangle.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:18:24 AM PST US From: Michael Gibbs Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: on fuel caps --what about fairings --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs Dave sez: >Seeing that you on topic of fuel caps. Has anyone done any >streamlining of the fuel caps and did they even notice an increase >in cruise ? I used these fairings from Murle Williams: Mine were installed during construction so I can't comment on performance improvements, but Murle's testing corroborates what others have said about the benefits of smoothing the airflow around the caps. Mike G. N728KF ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:52:52 AM PST US From: "Ben Baltrusaitis" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox CFI That's a truly generous offer, Andrew, and if I was closer I would take you up on the offer. But I'm sure I would be able to come up with something that I have, or do, that I could give in return. Again, Andrew, thanks for helping the Kitfox community with your offer. Ben (in rainy PA) KF-5 ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Matthaey To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: 09/12/2006 5:39 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox CFI --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" Hello List... Well, it's official - I am now a CFI/CFII/MEI ! Currently I'm in the Jacksonville, FL area to Flight Instruct, but have no idea where I'll be in the coming weeks and months... So, if any lister here is in need of a Kitfox CFI, I would be more than happy to offer my services free of charge to help anybody out...Just shoot me an email offlist or feel free to call. Andrew KF3 646.354.3252 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:54:26 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Kitfox-List: added to list --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Roger Circle Warren Miller Richard Rabbers - got the floats Lowell ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:31:12 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: [Off-topic] Flight to Germany --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan At 01:12 AM 9/13/2006, you wrote: >Hello guys, >Here are some photos of my flight to Germany, last week-end. Dang Michel, you have more fun than any Kitfoxer I know! Guy Buchanan K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:42 AM PST US From: "Dave" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: on fuel caps --what about fairings --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" Michael - Deke and all . Thanks for the positive words on the gas cap fairings. And yes Deke I have seen how it fans out as I mentioned the other day how i had a leak around the neck I noticed and put Rand o bond glue on it and it seems ok now .. Now how about a fairing on the wing to strut attach point and also the gear to fuselage points ? I am sure none of these give very much help but surely doing 10 places might give 1/4 mph each if you were lucky enough and total would be 2 mph or so. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Gibbs" Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:17 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: on fuel caps --what about fairings > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs > > Dave sez: > >>Seeing that you on topic of fuel caps. Has anyone done any streamlining of >>the fuel caps and did they even notice an increase in cruise ? > > I used these fairings from Murle Williams: > Mine were installed during > construction so I can't comment on performance improvements, but Murle's > testing corroborates what others have said about the benefits of smoothing > the airflow around the caps. > > Mike G. > N728KF > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:53:53 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Shunt on 912s From: "rocky" --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "rocky" In the wiring schematic for the S7,912S fig. K-8, Sect.J, there is a shunt separating the rectifier, ammeter, capacitor, and alternator. It didn't make it with my kit and Lockwood couldn't give me a clue. My ammeter is internally shunted. Can anyone tell me the correct piece of hardware goes there. Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=61425#61425 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:55:54 PM PST US From: "Dave G." Subject: Kitfox-List: Model IV assembly manual Does the model IV assembly book exist as a pdf? I recieved the last version of the wing portion with some parts and it's much better than the old Denney book I inherited. Since I am rebuilding it seemed worthwhile to use the latest information available. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:54:33 PM PST US From: kurt schrader Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Leaky fuel tanks. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader I could just see me sucking my tanks flat... :-( A little vacuum is a good idea though. Naw. I wasn't on the list 7 years ago and did the tanks before learning all this. Worried a little about them now. I sloshed them with alcohol, nothing stronger. Bought a slosh coating listed for alcohol and used that. Waiting for the pealing to start... Kurt S. Do not archive --- Don Smythe wrote: > Kurt, > You mean you didn't do that. I remember telling > you 7 years ago to be > sure and coat the outsides. Also, the one post that > mentioned putting on a > vacuum might work even better. > > Don Smythe > Do Not Archive __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:38:02 PM PST US From: Herbert R Gottelt Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: [Off-topic] Flight to Germany Nice pictures, Michel! Just wondering what kind of formalities are required on the borders between Eurpean States. Do you have to go thru customs at a port of entry, is there any paperwork involved like we have to go thru from the US to Canada or Mexico? Probably not, since most of Europe belongs to the Europ. Union now. Herbert Gottelt Michel Verheughe wrote: Hello guys, Here are some photos of my flight to Germany, last week-end. http://home.online.no/~michel/Busum/ Cheers, Michel do not archive ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:03:34 PM PST US From: "John Oakley" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Shunt on 912s --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" Rocky, If your amp gage is internally shunted, that is what goes in that place. The wiring has to go through it to show the draw and charges rates. John Oakley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rocky Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Shunt on 912s --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "rocky" In the wiring schematic for the S7,912S fig. K-8, Sect.J, there is a shunt separating the rectifier, ammeter, capacitor, and alternator. It didn't make it with my kit and Lockwood couldn't give me a clue. My ammeter is internally shunted. Can anyone tell me the correct piece of hardware goes there. Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=61425#61425 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:36:33 PM PST US From: "Robert Harris" Subject: Leaky Sight Gauge O-rings Re: Kitfox-List: Leaky fuel tanks. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Robert Harris" Can somebody please tell the size of the factory fuel sight guage o-rings on a model V. Mine are leaking and I want to replace them? Robert Model V 0200 San Diego, CA