Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:39 AM - Re: Student Insurance (Glenn Horne)
2. 04:43 AM - Re: Re: Grove gear (Steve Zakreski)
3. 05:59 AM - synthetic oils (Mark Thompson)
4. 06:10 AM - Re: synthetic oils (Dave)
5. 06:12 AM - Re: Student Insurance (kirk hull)
6. 06:40 AM - Re: synthetic oils (Noel Loveys)
7. 06:48 AM - Re: synthetic oils (PWilson)
8. 06:53 AM - Test Gorilla glue (HMDOUD)
9. 07:37 AM - Re: synthetic oils (ron schick)
10. 08:13 AM - Re: Test Gorilla glue (Guy Buchanan)
11. 08:13 AM - Re: Student Insurance (Guy Buchanan)
12. 08:37 AM - Re: Oil injection problems (Bob Robertson)
13. 10:29 AM - Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06) (Richard Rabbers)
14. 10:35 AM - Re: Test Gorilla glue (Gary Olson)
15. 10:51 AM - Re: synthetic oils/VW (Gary Olson)
16. 11:23 AM - Issues with Dual Brakes (Nick Scholtes)
17. 11:54 AM - Re: Issues with Dual Brakes (Michel Verheughe)
18. 12:53 PM - Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06) (Lynn Matteson)
19. 12:59 PM - Navman F2100 Fuel Guage (Frank Miles)
20. 01:05 PM - Re: Issues with Dual Brakes (Lynn Matteson)
21. 01:33 PM - Re: Issues with Dual Brakes (Dennis Golden)
22. 01:35 PM - Re: Issues with Dual Brakes (Dave and Diane)
23. 01:45 PM - Re: Issues with Dual Brakes (kirk hull)
24. 02:32 PM - Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06) (Richard Rabbers)
25. 02:40 PM - Re: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage (Marco Menezes)
26. 02:40 PM - Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06) (Fox5flyer)
27. 03:25 PM - Re: Issues with Dual Brakes (Clint Bazzill)
28. 03:27 PM - Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06) (Fred Shiple)
29. 03:31 PM - Re: J C Whitney Landing Light (Clint Bazzill)
30. 04:09 PM - kitfox 4 fuselage (cirrus10)
31. 04:11 PM - Re: Re: Grove gear (John Anderson)
32. 04:58 PM - Re: Exhaust Springs (John Banes)
33. 05:11 PM - Re: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage (Dave)
34. 05:13 PM - Re: Issues with Dual Brakes (Dave)
35. 05:57 PM - Re: synthetic oils (Andrew Matthaey)
36. 06:16 PM - Rotax 912 engine alternatives - presented by the owners themselves! (DVD) (Jon Croke)
37. 06:23 PM - Re: Issues with Dual Brakes (Bob Unternaehrer)
38. 06:31 PM - Matco MC-1 master cylinder dust boots (Rex Shaw)
39. 06:46 PM - Re: kitfox 4 fuselage (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
40. 07:12 PM - Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06) (Richard Rabbers)
41. 08:33 PM - Added to the database (Lowell Fitt)
42. 09:04 PM - Re: kitfox 4 fuselage (dcsfoto)
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| Subject: | Re: Student Insurance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
Try AUA Inc.
Greensboro NC. 1-800-727-3823
Ask for Lisa Otey.
Good luck.
Glenn Horne Suffolk, Va.
Model II 582
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernhard10" <tiloxy@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:08 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Student Insurance
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bernhard10" <tiloxy@gmail.com>
>
> It's been impossible so far to get insured as a student pilot with an
> Experimental ( Kitfox IV). I tried EAA and AOPA.
>
> Does anybody know of a company who would insure such a combination ?
> Thanks
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=63885#63885
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
"Ask seasoned Spitfire / Mustang pilots...."
Boy, there must be lots of those around. ;-)
SteveZ.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Anderson
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Grove gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
<janderson412@hotmail.com>
Ask seasoned Spitfire / Mustang pilots. The former type is a pig on the
ground to the latter as he's used to the wider Mustang track. But the
Spitfire pilot knows no diff...until he tries the Mustang..
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Thanks to you guys who asnwered my synthetic oil questions,I have found that using
fully synthetic oil in my VW and using 100LL is not a good mix,my oil temp
went from 180 to 250 and oil pressure went from 60 to 20, this is due to the
lead in the fuel according to tech support so you guys were right on with your
opinions,anyway back to using standard oil and all temps and pressures are back
in the norm.
Note: an old A.P. likes using a qrt of marvel mystery oil at every oil change to
acheive the same thing synthetics does,so I have tried this and flown off 2
more hrs and all is well....
Mark Thompson
kr2@earthlink.net
EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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| Subject: | Re: synthetic oils |
Mark ,
Do you know what Marvel Mystery oil really is ?
Seems to me i read somewhere it is Stoddard solvent and Lard.
Is that like varsol and animal fat ?
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Thompson
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:58 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: synthetic oils
Thanks to you guys who asnwered my synthetic oil questions,I have
found that using fully synthetic oil in my VW and using 100LL is not a
good mix,my oil temp went from 180 to 250 and oil pressure went from 60
to 20, this is due to the lead in the fuel according to tech support so
you guys were right on with your opinions,anyway back to using standard
oil and all temps and pressures are back in the norm.
Note: an old A.P. likes using a qrt of marvel mystery oil at every oil
change to acheive the same thing synthetics does,so I have tried this
and flown off 2 more hrs and all is well....
Mark Thompson
kr2@earthlink.net
EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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| Subject: | Student Insurance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
Insurance for a student in a tailwheel is not available anywhere as far as I
have found.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Horne
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Student Insurance
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
Try AUA Inc.
Greensboro NC. 1-800-727-3823
Ask for Lisa Otey.
Good luck.
Glenn Horne Suffolk, Va.
Model II 582
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernhard10" <tiloxy@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:08 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Student Insurance
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bernhard10" <tiloxy@gmail.com>
>
> It's been impossible so far to get insured as a student pilot with an
> Experimental ( Kitfox IV). I tried EAA and AOPA.
>
> Does anybody know of a company who would insure such a combination ?
> Thanks
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=63885#63885
>
>
>
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Absolutely!
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: synthetic oils
Mark ,
Do you know what Marvel Mystery oil really is ?
Seems to me i read somewhere it is Stoddard solvent and Lard.
Is that like varsol and animal fat ?
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Thompson <mailto:kr2@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:58 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: synthetic oils
Thanks to you guys who asnwered my synthetic oil questions,I have found
that
using fully synthetic oil in my VW and using 100LL is not a good mix,my
oil
temp went from 180 to 250 and oil pressure went from 60 to 20, this is
due
to the lead in the fuel according to tech support so you guys were right
on
with your opinions,anyway back to using standard oil and all temps and
pressures are back in the norm.
Note: an old A.P. likes using a qrt of marvel mystery oil at every oil
change to acheive the same thing synthetics does,so I have tried this
and
flown off 2 more hrs and all is well....
Mark Thompson
kr2@earthlink.net
EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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| Subject: | Re: synthetic oils |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: PWilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
Mark,
The "opinions" are not opinions, but the comments resulting from the
Rotax testing. Real world.
Paul
===============
At 06:58 AM 9/26/2006, you wrote:
>Thanks to you guys who asnwered my synthetic oil questions,I have
>found that using fully synthetic oil in my VW and using 100LL is not
>a good mix,my oil temp went from 180 to 250 and oil pressure went
>from 60 to 20, this is due to the lead in the fuel according to tech
>support so you guys were right on with your opinions,anyway back to
>using standard oil and all temps and pressures are back in the norm.
>Note: an old A.P. likes using a qrt of marvel mystery oil at every
>oil change to acheive the same thing synthetics does,so I have tried
>this and flown off 2 more hrs and all is well....
>
>
>Mark Thompson
><mailto:kr2@earthlink.net>kr2@earthlink.net
>EarthLink Revolves Around You.
>
>
><http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
><http://www.matronics.com/contribution>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
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| Subject: | Test Gorilla glue |
Todd.......
I'll take a moment to come out of my extensive and well laid out
Laboratory to drop a short note Todd.................... to follow up
on your suggestion to test Gorilla glue.
I did, however, test Super glue, the very fast setting, stick to
anything, glue.
I haven't tested Gorilla glue, but would be more than happy
to............Just as soon as someone can tell me how to unstick fingers
glued together with Super Glue.
Regards...........Herb
PS: Thanks to all, who took the time and responded with solutions to
the problem of my oil injection system. My only problem now
is...........which one do I test first?
(Just kidding guys)
**********************
Time: 07:17:51 PM PST US
From: "Todd Leiss" <tleiss@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Polyethylene adhesive test
Herb,
Sir, since you have such an well laid out Laboratory, and have used
extensive and
expensive equipment for this test, I was wondering,
Can you do it again with Gorilla Glue and let us know the results?
Todd Leiss
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Mark I am going to try switching to revmaster from redrive, since I have one
sitting in the garage. What size and pitch prop are you running? I'll
email off list Ron NB Ore
>From: "Mark Thompson" <kr2@earthlink.net>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: synthetic oils
>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:58:48 -0400
>
>Thanks to you guys who asnwered my synthetic oil questions,I have found
>that using fully synthetic oil in my VW and using 100LL is not a good
>mix,my oil temp went from 180 to 250 and oil pressure went from 60 to 20,
>this is due to the lead in the fuel according to tech support so you guys
>were right on with your opinions,anyway back to using standard oil and all
>temps and pressures are back in the norm.
>Note: an old A.P. likes using a qrt of marvel mystery oil at every oil
>change to acheive the same thing synthetics does,so I have tried this and
>flown off 2 more hrs and all is well....
>
>
>Mark Thompson
>kr2@earthlink.net
>EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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| Subject: | Re: Test Gorilla glue |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 06:53 AM 9/26/2006, you wrote:
>I haven't tested Gorilla glue, but would be more than happy
>to............Just as soon as someone can tell me how to unstick fingers
>glued together with Super Glue.
You type pretty well for someone with stuck fingers...
Guy
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| Subject: | Re: Student Insurance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 08:08 PM 9/25/2006, you wrote:
>It's been impossible so far to get insured as a student pilot with an
>Experimental ( Kitfox IV). I tried EAA and AOPA.
>
>Does anybody know of a company who would insure such a combination ?
Make sure you try Avemco:
www.avemco.com/
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Oil injection problems |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
Hi Don,
Yup!.....Gone from no glasses to reading glasses to bi-focals.
The text , on my PC at least, was soooooo tiny. I'm not so computer
literate that
I could increase the size.
regards
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oil injection problems
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
>
> What's the matter Bob, you getting old?
>
> Don Smythe
> Do Not Archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Robertson" <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oil injection problems
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson"
>> <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
>>
>> Can you enlarge the text so it can be read...
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Bob Robertson
>> Light Engine Services Ltd.
>> Rotax Service Center
>> Aero Control Enterprises, Inc.
>> St. Albert, Ab. T8N 1M8
>> Ph: (Tech Support) 1-780-418-4164
>> Ph: (Order Line) 1-866-418-4164 (TOLL FREE)
>> www.rtx-av-engines.ca
>> www.aerocontrols.net
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "HMDOUD" <hdoud@satx.rr.com>
>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 4:51 PM
>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Oil injection problems
>>
>>
>> I'm in the process of installing an oil injection pump and reservoir on
>> my model 4, with a 582 Blue Head engine. Just getting tired of mixing
>> oil and gas and thought I'd let Rotax do it.
>>
>> I have everything hooked up and put oil in the tank.........but, can't
>> get the oil to pass, past the vent screw in the intake side of the oil
>> injection pump. When I take out the vent screw, oil comes out. (all
>> over the place and makes a terrible mess. Never can get the screw back
>> into the hole) But that's as far as the oil will go. I have loosened
>> the 2 allen screws holding the pump onto the housing which contains the
>> white plastic gear, which runs the pump, but no oil will pass into the
>> "white gear housing", so that it can transfer into the small tubes going
>> to the intake manifold. I have also loosened the bolts that fasten the
>> "white gear housing", thinking that there might be an air block. Since
>> the oil won't transfer past the pump and into the larger housing, I
>> assume that there must be a worm, drive type of screw pump to bring the
>> oil down into the "main" housing, where the white gear lives and the oil
>> won't pass the worm drive (?) into the "main" pump housing.
>>
>> I''m "chicken" to try and start the engine with no oil supply ready to
>> feed the darn thing, so how can I prime the injection supply and make
>> certain that it's feeding the proper amount into the intake mamifold?
>> Everything that I can read, tells me that oil inection is the way to go,
>> as problems with the pump and pump failure are almost non-existant. (?)
>> Yuh can't see anythin goin' on.........Wonder if we could cut a window,
>> so we could see?
>>
>> I'll bet that I've confused the situation, beyond confusion and I'm sure
>> the foregoing makes dry reading.........but.................
>>
>> Anybody out there knowledgeable in this situation?
>>
>> Help Herb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
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| Subject: | Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com>
Hello list, particularly the Michigan area group
Here's another excuse to go flying..... and maybe meet up with other Kitfoxers,
etc. Hope for good weather.... and come on down.
This is a nice little airport and a nice quiet setting for a fall gathering.
(Hey Lynn! - no trophies, but I'd guess you and your clean machine might draw a
crowd. Bill Willyard is going to try to make it, so you better clean the bugs
off.)
C-585 web page
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/8911/
Event details
October 15, 2006
The famous Chapter 585 Chili Hop. Held at theWatervliet Airport (40C), this event
brings pilots from all over the Mid-west as it doesn't really get started
till late morning. The October weather can be brisk, but the fall colors are
worth the flight. This event includes cider and doughnuts, and of course CHILI
!! A hay ride around the airport is always popular for both young and old.
--------
Richard in SW Michigan
Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64026#64026
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| Subject: | Re: Test Gorilla glue |
If I remember the definition from my High school typing instructor, I believe it
is known as the hunt and peck method, whereby only 1 digit is required anyway.
Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan
At 06:53 AM 9/26/2006, you wrote:
>I haven't tested Gorilla glue, but would be more than happy
>to............Just as soon as someone can tell me how to unstick fingers
>glued together with Super Glue.
You type pretty well for someone with stuck fingers...
Guy
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| Subject: | synthetic oils/VW |
Ron,
F.Y.I. I am using a 72"/60 pitch wooden prop on my 2276 w/1:6/1 redrive. That
is what the prop guys at the redrive manufacturer recommended. I have not tested
it ye, but it looks like a lot of prop.
Gary
ron schick <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick"
Mark I am going to try switching to revmaster from redrive, since I have one
sitting in the garage. What size and pitch prop are you running? I'll
email off list Ron NB Ore
>From: "Mark Thompson"
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: synthetic oils
>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:58:48 -0400
>
>Thanks to you guys who asnwered my synthetic oil questions,I have found
>that using fully synthetic oil in my VW and using 100LL is not a good
>mix,my oil temp went from 180 to 250 and oil pressure went from 60 to 20,
>this is due to the lead in the fuel according to tech support so you guys
>were right on with your opinions,anyway back to using standard oil and all
>temps and pressures are back in the norm.
>Note: an old A.P. likes using a qrt of marvel mystery oil at every oil
>change to acheive the same thing synthetics does,so I have tried this and
>flown off 2 more hrs and all is well....
>
>
>Mark Thompson
>kr2@earthlink.net
>EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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| Subject: | Issues with Dual Brakes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Nick Scholtes <Nick@Scholtes1.com>
KitFoxers,
I've been looking to buy a KitFox for a while now, and am in the process
of educating myself and also starting to make appointments to look at
airplanes.
I want the airplane to have brakes on both sides, as I plan to have some
students fly left seat in the airplane. I've talked to several folks
who are selling their KitFoxes, and a common comment is, "I originally
had brakes on both sides, but I removed them from the right side because
there was a problem with them."
Could someone educate me on what the problem is, and more specifically,
is there a solution to it?
If I were to buy a KitFox that only had brakes on the left side, and I
wanted to install brakes on the right side, what special information do
I need to know to get a dual-brake system that really works? Where
would I get the parts, and approximately how much would everything cost?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Best Regards,
Nick Scholtes
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| Subject: | Re: Issues with Dual Brakes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Sep 26, 2006, at 8:22 PM, Nick Scholtes wrote:
> If I were to buy a KitFox that only had brakes on the left side, and I
> wanted to install brakes on the right side, what special information
> do I need to know to get a dual-brake system that really works?
Without being able to answer your question, Nick, here are my thoughts
about dual brakes.
My model 3 has brakes only on the left side. I started flying it, first
with my instructor. I sat on the left seat. Then my son started with
the instructor. He sat on the left seat. Then I went flying with my
son. He sits on the left seat. In the air, we fly on turns. It is very
pleasant.
But it is always the left-seater who lands the plane. I tried once to
land from the right-hand seat and ... it was scary! Then my son and I
have a rule: While I fly much more than him, if anything happens in
form of an emergency, the left-seater is the PIC and the right-seater
is only doing what he is instructed to. It's a question of safety, no
time to fight about who does what.
The bottom line? I don't need brakes on the right hand seat since I
don't know what it will be used for. Are you sure you want to add the
extra weight and complication?
cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
I'll be there, Richard....Sport Pilot Cert. in hand (if I get the
checkride done), or with yet another endorsement from my instructor to
drop in there. That's about 3 weeks away, so barring any weather,
airplane, or examiner problems, I should have the checkride done by
then....passing it? Oh, you mean I gotta PASS the thing? Oh, darn!
I just looked up the runway info on 40C, and it sounds like you guys
need to plant some trees, eh, Richard? : )
Lynn
On Tuesday, September 26, 2006, at 01:28 PM, Richard Rabbers wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Rabbers"
> <rira1950@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello list, particularly the Michigan area group
>
> Here's another excuse to go flying..... and maybe meet up with other
> Kitfoxers, etc. Hope for good weather.... and come on down.
> This is a nice little airport and a nice quiet setting for a fall
> gathering.
>
> (Hey Lynn! - no trophies, but I'd guess you and your clean machine
> might draw a crowd. Bill Willyard is going to try to make it, so you
> better clean the bugs off.)
>
> C-585 web page
> http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/8911/
>
>
> Event details
> October 15, 2006
> The famous Chapter 585 Chili Hop. Held at theWatervliet Airport
> (40C), this event brings pilots from all over the Mid-west as it
> doesn't really get started till late morning. The October weather can
> be brisk, but the fall colors are worth the flight. This event
> includes cider and doughnuts, and of course CHILI !! A hay ride around
> the airport is always popular for both young and old.
>
> --------
> Richard in SW Michigan
> Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64026#64026
>
>
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| Subject: | Navman F2100 Fuel Guage |
Has anyone in this group used the Navman fuel gauge with the Rotax two cycle
and if so, what has been your experience?
Frank
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| Subject: | Re: Issues with Dual Brakes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Nick-
I haven't found the brakes to be any problem at all, through the 20-odd
hours of flying dual with my instructor, then the 80-odd hours of solo
since then. Of course, solo doesn't allow for the right-side brakes to
get the used much. I am flying a model IV, with Matco calipers and
Cleveland master cylinders. My brakes will even hold the plane at
full-throttle run-up during a short-field takeoff, but then I'm running
an 85-hp Jabiru with a cruise prop. : )
So you gotta ask yourself....is is the brakes REALLY working, or is it
that Jabiru/prop combo NOT working?
Lynn
On Tuesday, September 26, 2006, at 02:22 PM, Nick Scholtes wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Nick Scholtes <Nick@Scholtes1.com>
>
> KitFoxers,
>
> I've been looking to buy a KitFox for a while now, and am in the
> process of educating myself and also starting to make appointments to
> look at airplanes.
> I want the airplane to have brakes on both sides, as I plan to have
> some students fly left seat in the airplane. I've talked to several
> folks who are selling their KitFoxes, and a common comment is, "I
> originally had brakes on both sides, but I removed them from the right
> side because there was a problem with them."
>
> Could someone educate me on what the problem is, and more
> specifically, is there a solution to it?
> If I were to buy a KitFox that only had brakes on the left side, and I
> wanted to install brakes on the right side, what special information
> do I need to know to get a dual-brake system that really works? Where
> would I get the parts, and approximately how much would everything
> cost?
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Nick Scholtes
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Issues with Dual Brakes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dennis Golden <dgolden@golden-consulting.com>
Lynn Matteson wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> Nick-
>
> I haven't found the brakes to be any problem at all, through the 20-odd
> hours of flying dual with my instructor, then the 80-odd hours of solo
> since then. Of course, solo doesn't allow for the right-side brakes to
> get the used much. I am flying a model IV, with Matco calipers and
> Cleveland master cylinders. My brakes will even hold the plane at
> full-throttle run-up during a short-field takeoff, but then I'm running
> an 85-hp Jabiru with a cruise prop. : )
> So you gotta ask yourself....is is the brakes REALLY working, or is it
> that Jabiru/prop combo NOT working?
>
> Lynn
> On Tuesday, September 26, 2006, at 02:22 PM, Nick Scholtes wrote:
There was a problem with the Matco brake masters if BOTH right and left
pilot brakes were applied at the same time. This could result in a
complete lockup of the brakes. There was a simple fix made available by
Matco and Skystar. This was brought up on this list in the last week or
so. Check: http://www.carttonic.com/files/file_download.php?fi_id=38522
Regards,
Dennis
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Nick Scholtes <Nick@Scholtes1.com>
>>
>> KitFoxers,
>>
>> I've been looking to buy a KitFox for a while now, and am in the
>> process of educating myself and also starting to make appointments to
>> look at airplanes.
>> I want the airplane to have brakes on both sides, as I plan to have
>> some students fly left seat in the airplane. I've talked to several
>> folks who are selling their KitFoxes, and a common comment is, "I
>> originally had brakes on both sides, but I removed them from the right
>> side because there was a problem with them."
>>
>> Could someone educate me on what the problem is, and more
>> specifically, is there a solution to it?
>> If I were to buy a KitFox that only had brakes on the left side, and I
>> wanted to install brakes on the right side, what special information
>> do I need to know to get a dual-brake system that really works? Where
>> would I get the parts, and approximately how much would everything cost?
>>
>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Nick Scholtes
--
Dennis Golden
Golden Consulting Services, Inc.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave and Diane <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
Nick,
A couple ideas to think about, from a guy who bought (parts of) a model 7
Trigear and ordered the dual brakes.
1) There is a difference between the trigrear and the tailwheel version -
Tailwheel, you can steer on the ground from the right seat with the linkage
to the tailwheel even without brakes - Trigear - no such thing - all you have
on the ground with the trigrear for directional control (since it is not
connected to the pedals) is the throttle and rudder - you can't steer with
brakes you don't have on the trigear from the right seat. If you get the
tailwheel - you definily have an option from the right seat without brakes.
2) How much do you trust students? Maybe a point to consider together with
item 1 above and some of those cluttered, busy and congested ramps we
sometimes get dragged into against our will. Even a composite propeller will
chew through aluminum and other stuff that some airplanes and gas pumps are
made of.
3) Familiar with the concept? - have something I didn't need vs need something
I don't have (like carb heat, brakes, etc...) Maybe I am just paranoid...I
don't know.
Just a couple thoughts; however, it is pretty clear also that people fly
kitfoxes in all kinds of configurations.... successfully
Also - a Kitfox should make a pretty good trainer - light enough on the
controls and you need to use the rudder - two things that really help a a new
person learn to feel what they are doing with the airplane.
FYI - the first and only airplane I flew where the instructor was denied the
benefit of brakes with me in the left seat was a Piper Arrow - that seemed
to touchdown at a somewhat higher speed than a kitfox, but it did have the
benefit of an interconnect with the front training wheel.
Sincerely,
Dave S
St Paul, MN
M-7 Trigear
DO NOT ARCHIVE
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 1:22 pm, Nick Scholtes wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Nick Scholtes <Nick@Scholtes1.com>
>
> KitFoxers,
>
> I've been looking to buy a KitFox for a while now, and am in the process
> of educating myself and also starting to make appointments to look at
> airplanes.
>
> I want the airplane to have brakes on both sides, as I plan to have some
> students fly left seat in the airplane. I've talked to several folks
> who are selling their KitFoxes, and a common comment is, "I originally
> had brakes on both sides, but I removed them from the right side because
> there was a problem with them."
>
> Could someone educate me on what the problem is, and more specifically,
> is there a solution to it?
>
> If I were to buy a KitFox that only had brakes on the left side, and I
> wanted to install brakes on the right side, what special information do
> I need to know to get a dual-brake system that really works? Where
> would I get the parts, and approximately how much would everything cost?
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Nick Scholtes
>
>
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| Subject: | Issues with Dual Brakes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
Some instructors will not fly in a tailwheel with out right brakes.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Issues with Dual Brakes
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Sep 26, 2006, at 8:22 PM, Nick Scholtes wrote:
> If I were to buy a KitFox that only had brakes on the left side, and I
> wanted to install brakes on the right side, what special information
> do I need to know to get a dual-brake system that really works?
Without being able to answer your question, Nick, here are my thoughts
about dual brakes.
My model 3 has brakes only on the left side. I started flying it, first
with my instructor. I sat on the left seat. Then my son started with
the instructor. He sat on the left seat. Then I went flying with my
son. He sits on the left seat. In the air, we fly on turns. It is very
pleasant.
But it is always the left-seater who lands the plane. I tried once to
land from the right-hand seat and ... it was scary! Then my son and I
have a rule: While I fly much more than him, if anything happens in
form of an emergency, the left-seater is the PIC and the right-seater
is only doing what he is instructed to. It's a question of safety, no
time to fight about who does what.
The bottom line? I don't need brakes on the right hand seat since I
don't know what it will be used for. Are you sure you want to add the
extra weight and complication?
cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com>
WATERVLIET - sorry for type-o.
--------------
Great Lynn... see you there, assuming the planets align.
do not archive
--------
Richard in SW Michigan
Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64079#64079
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| Subject: | Re: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage |
Hi Frank.
I installed the NavMan 2100 (marine version) on my Model 2 with 582 gray head.
It seems to work great. I empty my tanks after each flight and the amount I
drain out appears to coincide closely with the NavMan's remaining fuel calculation.
I'll do something a bit more empirical to verify appearances before relying
on it, but so far I'm pleased and impressed. Also, the price from Boaters
Land is unbeatable. I'd recommend it.
See http://www.boatersland.com/index.html
Marco Menezes
Frank Miles <f.miles.tcp.833@clearwire.net> wrote:
Has anyone in this group used the Navman fuel gauge with the Rotax
two cycle and if so, what has been your experience?
Frank
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
I've got it on the calendar Richard. It's about 200 air miles so I'll plan
on camping, weather permitting.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:28 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello list, particularly the Michigan area group
>
> Here's another excuse to go flying..... and maybe meet up with other
Kitfoxers, etc. Hope for good weather.... and come on down.
> This is a nice little airport and a nice quiet setting for a fall
gathering.
>
> (Hey Lynn! - no trophies, but I'd guess you and your clean machine might
draw a crowd. Bill Willyard is going to try to make it, so you better clean
the bugs off.)
>
> C-585 web page
> http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/8911/
>
>
> Event details
> October 15, 2006
> The famous Chapter 585 Chili Hop. Held at theWatervliet Airport (40C),
this event brings pilots from all over the Mid-west as it doesn't really get
started till late morning. The October weather can be brisk, but the fall
colors are worth the flight. This event includes cider and doughnuts, and
of course CHILI !! A hay ride around the airport is always popular for both
young and old.
>
> --------
> Richard in SW Michigan
> Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64026#64026
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Issues with Dual Brakes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
I have a Model IV Kitfox with brakes on both sides. Works just great. Have
about 1150 hours on plane. Over 1050 from the right seat. Clint
From: Dave and Diane <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Issues with Dual Brakes
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave and Diane <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
Nick,
A couple ideas to think about, from a guy who bought (parts of) a model 7
Trigear and ordered the dual brakes.
1) There is a difference between the trigrear and the tailwheel version -
Tailwheel, you can steer on the ground from the right seat with the linkage
to the tailwheel even without brakes - Trigear - no such thing - all you
have
on the ground with the trigrear for directional control (since it is not
connected to the pedals) is the throttle and rudder - you can't steer with
brakes you don't have on the trigear from the right seat. If you get the
tailwheel - you definily have an option from the right seat without brakes.
2) How much do you trust students? Maybe a point to consider together with
item 1 above and some of those cluttered, busy and congested ramps we
sometimes get dragged into against our will. Even a composite propeller will
chew through aluminum and other stuff that some airplanes and gas pumps are
made of.
3) Familiar with the concept? - have something I didn't need vs need
something
I don't have (like carb heat, brakes, etc...) Maybe I am just paranoid...I
don't know.
Just a couple thoughts; however, it is pretty clear also that people fly
kitfoxes in all kinds of configurations.... successfully
Also - a Kitfox should make a pretty good trainer - light enough on the
controls and you need to use the rudder - two things that really help a a
new
person learn to feel what they are doing with the airplane.
FYI - the first and only airplane I flew where the instructor was denied the
benefit of brakes with me in the left seat was a Piper Arrow - that seemed
to touchdown at a somewhat higher speed than a kitfox, but it did have the
benefit of an interconnect with the front training wheel.
Sincerely,
Dave S
St Paul, MN
M-7 Trigear
DO NOT ARCHIVE
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 1:22 pm, Nick Scholtes wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Nick Scholtes <Nick@Scholtes1.com>
>
> KitFoxers,
>
> I've been looking to buy a KitFox for a while now, and am in the process
> of educating myself and also starting to make appointments to look at
> airplanes.
>
> I want the airplane to have brakes on both sides, as I plan to have some
> students fly left seat in the airplane. I've talked to several folks
> who are selling their KitFoxes, and a common comment is, "I originally
> had brakes on both sides, but I removed them from the right side because
> there was a problem with them."
>
> Could someone educate me on what the problem is, and more specifically,
> is there a solution to it?
>
> If I were to buy a KitFox that only had brakes on the left side, and I
> wanted to install brakes on the right side, what special information do
> I need to know to get a dual-brake system that really works? Where
> would I get the parts, and approximately how much would everything cost?
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Nick Scholtes
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06) |
Traveling with the family, so I'll miss it. Hope to make the next Great Lakes group
get together.
Fred
do nnot archive
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| Subject: | J C Whitney Landing Light |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
I had a landing light from J.C. Whitney, but they don't carry it any more.
Look around for a small driving light with a replaceable bulb. Clint
From: "jeff puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: J C Whitney Landing Light
Someone a while back purchased a landing light from J C Whitney. I have
searched and searched but can't find it. Does someone have a part number?
Jeff, Classic IV
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| Subject: | kitfox 4 fuselage |
Anyone out there have a IV fuselage for sale?
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
War Birds revival....my generation missed out, but go to any big warbirds
show now and see the line up..
From: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Grove gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
"Ask seasoned Spitfire / Mustang pilots...."
Boy, there must be lots of those around. ;-)
SteveZ.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Anderson
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Grove gear
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
<janderson412@hotmail.com>
Ask seasoned Spitfire / Mustang pilots. The former type is a pig on the
ground to the latter as he's used to the wider Mustang track. But the
Spitfire pilot knows no diff...until he tries the Mustang..
_________________________________________________________________
Need more speed? Get Xtra Broadband @
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Thanks Jeff, John
Do Not Archive
_____
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeff puls
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:40 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Exhaust Springs
I just purchased four springs from John McBean. Mine were wearing through.
Changed them at the annual. The price was very reasonable. Throw some
business John's way. Also, run safety wire inside the spring. Jeff Classsic
IV
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| Subject: | Re: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage |
Frank, I have a navman 2100 and I had over a year now . No problems at
all. I checked on my fuel use on it tonight while flying and since July
07 ( the last time that i reset the totals)
I have used 920 litres of fuel. This is on a 582 and on flights of 3
hours+ it seems to be accurate on fuel burn.
Higly recommended. I di a search on google
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&r
ls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-48,GGLG:en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&c
d=1&q=navman+2100&spell=1
And I think i got mine at boatersland. It was 119$ i recall and rec;d
the next day via courier in Canada.
Only thing I did not like was the nipples on transducer are 3/8" and I
use 1/4 " line . It is hooked in right below the fuel pump on firewall
after the gascolator and covered in gas sleeves.
I used a fitting on each end to change 1/4 to 3.8 and visa versa.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Frank Miles
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:59 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage
Has anyone in this group used the Navman fuel gauge with the Rotax two
cycle and if so, what has been your experience?
Frank
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| Subject: | Re: Issues with Dual Brakes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
who needs brakes anyhow ?
My left one been dead for last 15 hours and i hope to get around to it one
day before skis go on :)
I just do run up on roll, same as on floats.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Issues with Dual Brakes
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> Nick-
>
> I haven't found the brakes to be any problem at all, through the 20-odd
> hours of flying dual with my instructor, then the 80-odd hours of solo
> since then. Of course, solo doesn't allow for the right-side brakes to get
> the used much. I am flying a model IV, with Matco calipers and Cleveland
> master cylinders. My brakes will even hold the plane at full-throttle
> run-up during a short-field takeoff, but then I'm running an 85-hp Jabiru
> with a cruise prop. : )
> So you gotta ask yourself....is is the brakes REALLY working, or is it
> that Jabiru/prop combo NOT working?
>
> Lynn
> On Tuesday, September 26, 2006, at 02:22 PM, Nick Scholtes wrote:
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Nick Scholtes <Nick@Scholtes1.com>
>>
>> KitFoxers,
>>
>> I've been looking to buy a KitFox for a while now, and am in the process
>> of educating myself and also starting to make appointments to look at
>> airplanes.
>> I want the airplane to have brakes on both sides, as I plan to have some
>> students fly left seat in the airplane. I've talked to several folks who
>> are selling their KitFoxes, and a common comment is, "I originally had
>> brakes on both sides, but I removed them from the right side because
>> there was a problem with them."
>>
>> Could someone educate me on what the problem is, and more specifically,
>> is there a solution to it?
>> If I were to buy a KitFox that only had brakes on the left side, and I
>> wanted to install brakes on the right side, what special information do I
>> need to know to get a dual-brake system that really works? Where would I
>> get the parts, and approximately how much would everything cost?
>>
>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Nick Scholtes
>>
>>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andrew Matthaey" <spaghettiohead@hotmail.com>
Heya Mark - Just let me know before you changing oils and additives on me -
I'll let your buddy test-fly it first LoL
Andrew
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>From: "Mark Thompson" <kr2@earthlink.net>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: synthetic oils
>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:58:48 -0400
>
>Thanks to you guys who asnwered my synthetic oil questions,I have found
>that using fully synthetic oil in my VW and using 100LL is not a good
>mix,my oil temp went from 180 to 250 and oil pressure went from 60 to 20,
>this is due to the lead in the fuel according to tech support so you guys
>were right on with your opinions,anyway back to using standard oil and all
>temps and pressures are back in the norm.
>Note: an old A.P. likes using a qrt of marvel mystery oil at every oil
>change to acheive the same thing synthetics does,so I have tried this and
>flown off 2 more hrs and all is well....
>
>
>Mark Thompson
>kr2@earthlink.net
>EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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| Subject: | Rotax 912 engine alternatives - presented by the owners themselves! |
(DVD)
Of interest to anyone researching alternative engine choices to the
Rotax 912 ! (A targeted advertisement)
HomebuiltHelp has just released a new DVD that compiles
interviews/demonstrations from 7 engine vendors that compete with the
912 class of engine (Stratus Subaru, Jabiru, Rotec radial, AeroVee,
Wynne Corvair, Raven Redrive, and Great Plains VW).
This is a great one stop video catalog with footage contributed by these
vendors to HomebuiltHELP for the purpose of educating the homebuilder on
the most popular engine alternatives in the 80-120 hp range.
Complete details can be found at
http://homebuilthelp.com/The912Competition.htm
Thanks!
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| Subject: | Re: Issues with Dual Brakes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
The left and right seat thing is purely personal training and preference.
It is just as natural for me from the left or the right. My fox has brakes
on both sides for instructional purposes. Many brave instructors do it
without breaks, but not me. I quite often take Young Eagles rides from the
right seat. Some of the older kids like to play pilot. Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Issues with Dual Brakes
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> On Sep 26, 2006, at 8:22 PM, Nick Scholtes wrote:
> > If I were to buy a KitFox that only had brakes on the left side, and I
> > wanted to install brakes on the right side, what special information
> > do I need to know to get a dual-brake system that really works?
>
> Without being able to answer your question, Nick, here are my thoughts
> about dual brakes.
> My model 3 has brakes only on the left side. I started flying it, first
> with my instructor. I sat on the left seat. Then my son started with
> the instructor. He sat on the left seat. Then I went flying with my
> son. He sits on the left seat. In the air, we fly on turns. It is very
> pleasant.
> But it is always the left-seater who lands the plane. I tried once to
> land from the right-hand seat and ... it was scary! Then my son and I
> have a rule: While I fly much more than him, if anything happens in
> form of an emergency, the left-seater is the PIC and the right-seater
> is only doing what he is instructed to. It's a question of safety, no
> time to fight about who does what.
> The bottom line? I don't need brakes on the right hand seat since I
> don't know what it will be used for. Are you sure you want to add the
> extra weight and complication?
>
> cheers,
> Michel
>
>
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| Subject: | Matco MC-1 master cylinder dust boots |
Hi ! Guys,
my MKIV has MC-1 Matco Mfg master cylinders like I
suspect most Kitfox's do. My cylinders also have dust boots but Matco
can't supply these and in fact tell me they were not supplied for the
last twelve months of production. I think this is very poor as the
cylinder is right in front of the sole of your shoe just wating for dirt
to drop onto the reservoir top plate and work it's way down the shaft as
their is no seal at this point, See Master Cylinder diagram on Matco Mfg
website. www.matcomfg.com go to Technical Support then Master Cylinder
etc etc. In the middle of the page about half way down you can see a
diagram of the MC-1 master cylinder. Click on this to enlarge and you'll
see the MC-12300 dust boot. You can get rebuild kits but no boot is
included or available from Matco.
My dust boots have got very sticky either with age or perhaps due to
using Mil-5606 fluid. I am not sure which but I know they use Buna-N "O"
rings to live with this fluid so perhaps the boots were not Buna-N.
Anyway due the boots being sticky I have eventually poked a hole in
both of them trying to get them pushed out straight again after checking
the fluid. So I need new boots. I suspect I'm not the only one and it
appears some don't even have any boots at all.
Well what I have done is approach Don James at JBM Industries. They
are the guys that make those replacement carby sockets for the Rotax
motors that don't crack like the originals. Anyway JBM don't make these
boots at this time but it looks like they may well do if they can when I
send them a sample. I'll let you know if this happens as I suspect it
will. Then if any of you just want boots in the first place or to
replace sticky or damaged ones you will then know you can do that.
Rex
Australia.
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| Subject: | Re: kitfox 4 fuselage |
Cirrus10 ??? Nothing but the best ??? hot and heavy slumming with the
low and slow?
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| Subject: | Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com>
Bill, Lynn, Deke ... glad for your positive replies.
- I'll be glad to assist with any road work, chauffeur.
.... maybe I'll hang my wings on the jeep:)
Fred... enjoy your trip. See you next time.
Richard
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Richard in SW Michigan
Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)
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| Subject: | Added to the database |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Royal Merrill
Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: kitfox 4 fuselage |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dcsfoto" <david@kelm.com>
Model V just listed on Barnstormers
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