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Wed 09/27/06


Total Messages Posted: 35



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     1. 06:32 AM - Re: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage (Algate)
     2. 08:13 AM - Re: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage (Lynn Matteson)
     3. 08:39 AM - Re: Student InsuranceStudent Insurance (David C. Watterson)
     4. 08:45 AM - Small Text Trick - List Messages (Stan Bearup)
     5. 09:03 AM - Small Text Trick (Dee Young)
     6. 09:18 AM - Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
     7. 09:42 AM - Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages (John Oakley)
     8. 09:59 AM - Re: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage (Dave)
     9. 10:35 AM - Re: Dual Brakes (Nick Scholtes)
    10. 10:38 AM - Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages (Stan Bearup)
    11. 10:54 AM - Re: Test Gorilla glue (Rex)
    12. 11:08 AM - Re: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage (Algate)
    13. 11:10 AM - Re: Test Gorilla glue (Algate)
    14. 11:21 AM - Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages (Rex)
    15. 11:25 AM - CA remover.... (Aerobatics@aol.com)
    16. 11:33 AM - Re: Student InsuranceStudent Insurance (kirk hull)
    17. 12:17 PM - Re: CA remover.... (John Oakley)
    18. 12:19 PM - Re: Test Gorilla glue (John Oakley)
    19. 12:54 PM - Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
    20. 01:10 PM - Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
    21. 01:10 PM - Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages (Don & Betty Stevenson)
    22. 01:16 PM - Re: CA remover.... (vft@aol.com)
    23. 01:27 PM - Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages (Dave)
    24. 01:47 PM - Fuel Stickers (TCFosser@aol.com)
    25. 03:29 PM - Re: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage (Lynn Matteson)
    26. 04:32 PM - Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages (mscotter)
    27. 05:03 PM - Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages (Fox5flyer)
    28. 05:04 PM - Re: Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06) (jeff puls)
    29. 05:58 PM - Fw: Small Text Trick - List Messages (Fox5flyer)
    30. 06:23 PM - Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06) (Richard Rabbers)
    31. 07:14 PM - mod 2 for sale (Malcolmbru@AOL.COM)
    32. 07:50 PM - Narco transsponder (kirk hull)
    33. 09:53 PM - Re: Narco transsponder (clemwehner)
    34. 10:13 PM - Re: synthetic oils (ron schick)
    35. 11:21 PM - Re: Kitfox5 needs cabin heat (debrun26@juno.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:32:39 AM PST US
    From: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
    Subject: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage
    I've used one with a 582 for 3 years and now have one on my Jabiru. Probably one of the most useful gauges in my airplane. Gary Algate Classic 4 / Jab2200 _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Miles Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:59 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage Has anyone in this group used the Navman fuel gauge with the Rotax two cycle and if so, what has been your experience? Frank


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    Time: 08:13:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Hi Gary- Can you explain a little about how the F2100 Fuel Flow Indicator works? By that I mean, what senses the flow, an impeller? Where do you insert the sensing device? I'm a little concerned about the specs on this unit....only good down to 32 F? And one other spec...90-300 hp? That puts our 85-horse Jabs a little below their range...have you found this to be a problem? Lynn On Wednesday, September 27, 2006, at 09:35 AM, Algate wrote: > Ive used one with a 582 for 3 years and now have one on my Jabiru. > Probably one of the most useful gauges in my airplane. > > > > Gary Algate > > Classic 4 / Jab2200


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    Time: 08:39:48 AM PST US
    From: "David C. Watterson" <dcw@dddirectories.com>
    Subject: Re: Student InsuranceStudent Insurance
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David C. Watterson" <dcw@dddirectories.com> I am a student and just got insurance with Falcon. Its pricey but at least I have it.


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    Time: 08:45:44 AM PST US
    From: "Stan Bearup" <bearup@ida.net>
    Subject: Small Text Trick - List Messages
    For those who have trouble reading the fine text in some messages, here is a simple trick that works great.... Left click your mouse pointer somewhere in the text to "make it active", hold down the "control" key on your keyboard and scroll with the little wheel on top of your mouse if you have one. The text size "magically" changes size! I hope this helps. Stan Bearup ----- Original Message ----- From: HMDOUD To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Polyethylene adhesive test Well, I got the 3M DP-8005 (correct number) Polyethylene adhesion test completed. Took a 1 gallon milk bottle and a 1"x 1/16" pice of aluminum, cleaned them with MEK, didn't bother to rough them up and squeezed out a pea size amount of adhesive. Using top notch research methods, I taped a couple of wooden pencils together, with a AAA battery between the pencils in paralell., so I could push the glue plungers equally. One syringe plunger is very small and one is much larger, giving the proper 10:1 glue ratio. I stuck the aluminum bar onto the gallon milk jug, with the pea sized gob of glue and let it squish out the sides of the mating. You have to do all of the "stickin' together" in 3 minutes or less. I let'r sit all night and the next morning tried to get the 2 pieces apart. There was no way...........I finally pulled to the point of tearing the side clear out of the milk jug, ruining a perfectly good galon milk jug and bending a perfectly good piece of aluminum. I should caution anyone wanting to duplicate this, very profesional, exhaustive test, to first empty the milk jug of milk. Needless to say, I'm convinced the the adhesive will, without question, hold a piece of aluminum to the side of a polyethylene milk jug, no matter how hard one pulls on the piece of aluminum. I finally got "some" of the adhesive off of the aluminum, with a hammer and chisel, further damaging my 6"X1"X1/16" piece of aluminum, that I had been saving for several years, ............for something or other. Oh Well........ Anyway, 3M did a bang up job designing this DP-8005 (correct number) adhesive and I'm going to take heart in hand, drill an inch and something or other, hole in the top of my Fox header tank and glue on the aluminum flange, so the low level fuel sensor can be installed. I did check with 3M regarding the compatiblity of gasoline and DP-8005 (correct number) and they told me the was no problem. However, once there was ethanol added to the gas, there would be a major explosion! (Just kidding) Regards............Herb Advanced Scientific Polyethylene Glue Sticking Dept MBAPOOP


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    Time: 09:03:59 AM PST US
    From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
    Subject: Small Text Trick
    That's a good tip Stan. Thanks Dee Do not archive


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    Time: 09:18:14 AM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages
    Stan, was not successful as described on the recieved messge. The steps you suggested changed the wrap properties which will be helpful for some of the messages I recieve. Is there another set of commands that will alter the font size? An interesting thing though, your suggestion does function as you describe on the reply message. John Kerr -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Stan Bearup" <bearup@ida.net> For those who have trouble reading the fine text in some messages, here is a simple trick that works great.... Left click your mouse pointer somewhere in the text to "make it active", hold down the "control" key on your keyboard and scroll with the little wheel on top of your mouse if you have one. The text size "magically" changes size! I hope this helps. Stan Bearup ----- Original Message ----- From: HMDOUD Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Polyethylene adhesive test Well, I got the 3M DP-8005 (correct number) Polyethylene adhesion test completed. Took a 1 gallon milk bottle and a 1"x 1/16" pice of aluminum, cleaned them with MEK, didn't bother to rough them up and squeezed out a pea size amount of adhesive. Using top notch research methods, I taped a couple of wooden pencils together, with a AAA battery between the pencils in paralell., so I could push the glue plungers equally. One syringe plunger is very small and one is much larger, giving the proper 10:1 glue ratio. I stuck the aluminum bar onto the gallon milk jug, with the pea sized gob of glue and let it squish out the sides of the mating. You have to do all of the "stickin' together" in 3 minutes or less. I let'r sit all night and the next morning tried to get the 2 pieces apart. There was no way...........I finally pulled to the point of tearing the side clear out of the milk jug, ruining a perfectly good galon milk jug and bending a perfectly good piece of aluminum. I should caution anyone wanting to duplicate this, very profesional, exhaustive test, to first empty the milk jug of milk. Needless to say, I'm convinced the the adhesive will, without question, hold a piece of aluminum to the side of a polyethylene milk jug, no matter how hard one pulls on the piece of aluminum. I finally got "some" of the adhesive off of the aluminum, with a hammer and chisel, further damaging my 6"X1"X1/16" piece of aluminum, that I had been saving for several years, ............for something or other. Oh Well........ Anyway, 3M did a bang up job designing this DP-8005 (correct number) adhesive and I'm going to take heart in hand, drill an inch and something or other, hole in the top of my Fox header tank and glue on the aluminum flange, so the low level fuel sensor can be installed. I did check with 3M regarding the compatiblity of gasoline and DP-8005 (correct number) and they told me the was no problem. However, once there was ethanol added to the gas, there would be a major explosion! (Just kidding) Regards............Herb Advanced Scientific Polyethylene Glue Sticking Dept MBAPOOP <html><body> <DIV>Stan, was not successful as described on the recieved messge.&nbsp; The steps you suggested changed the wrap properties which will be helpful for some of the messages I recieve.&nbsp; Is there another set of commands that will alter the font size? An interesting thing though, your suggestion does function as you describe on the reply message.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>John Kerr</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Stan Bearup" &lt;bearup@ida.net&gt; <BR> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV>For those who have trouble reading the fine text in some messages, here is a simple trick that works great....</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Left click&nbsp;your mouse pointer somewhere in the text to "make it active",&nbsp;hold down the "control" key on your keyboard and scroll with the little wheel on top of your mouse if you have one. The text size "magically" changes size!</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I hope this helps.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Stan Bearup&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=hdoud@satx.rr.com href="mailto:hdoud@satx.rr.com">HMDOUD</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=kitfox-list@matronics.com href="mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com">kitfox-list@matronics.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 25, 2006 1:41 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Kitfox-List: Polyethylene adhesive test</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1>Well, I got the 3M DP-8005 (correct number) Polyethylene adhesion test completed.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1>Took a 1 gallon milk bottle and a 1"x 1/16" pice of aluminum, cleaned them with MEK, didn't bother to rough them up and squeezed out a pea size amount of adhesive.&nbsp;&nbsp; Using top notch research methods, I&nbsp;taped a couple of wooden pencils together, with a AAA battery between the pencils in paralell., so I could push the glue plungers equally.&nbsp;&nbsp; One syringe plunger is very small and one is much larger, giving the proper 10:1 glue ratio.&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1>I stuck the aluminum bar onto the gallon milk jug, with the pea sized gob of glue and let it squish out the sides of the mating.&nbsp;&nbsp; You have to do all of the "stickin' together" in 3 minutes or less.&nbsp; I let'r sit all night and the next morning tried to get the 2 pieces apart.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1>There was no way...........I finally pulled to the point of tearing the side clear out of the milk jug, ruining a perfectly good galon milk jug and bending a perfectly good piece of aluminum.&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1>I should caution anyone wanting to duplicate this, very profesional, exhaustive test, to first empty the milk jug of milk.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1>Needless to say, I'm convinced the the adhesive will, without question, hold a piece of aluminum to the side of a polyethylene milk jug, no matter how hard one pulls on the piece of aluminum.&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1>I finally got "some" of the adhesive off of the aluminum, with a hammer and chisel, further damaging my 6"X1"X1/16" piece of aluminum, that I had been saving for several years, ............for something or other.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1>Oh Well........</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1>Anyway, 3M did a bang up job designing this DP-8005 (correct number) adhesive and I'm going to take heart in hand, drill an inch and something or other, hole in the top of my Fox header tank and glue on the aluminum flange, so the low level fuel sensor can be installed. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1>I did check with 3M regarding the compatiblity of gasoline and DP-8005 (correct number) and they told me the was no problem.&nbsp;&nbsp; However, once there was ethanol added to the gas, there would be a major explosion!&nbsp;&nbsp; (Just kidding)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1>Regards............Herb&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Advanced Scientific Polyethylene Glue Sticking Dept&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MBAPOOP </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE><B><FONT face="courier new,courier" size=2 color000000?> </B></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 09:42:26 AM PST US
    From: "John Oakley" <john@leptron.com>
    Subject: Small Text Trick - List Messages
    That is so cool, and I thought I was a computer jock. John Oakley _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stan Bearup Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:44 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Small Text Trick - List Messages For those who have trouble reading the fine text in some messages, here is a simple trick that works great.... Left click your mouse pointer somewhere in the text to "make it active", hold down the "control" key on your keyboard and scroll with the little wheel on top of your mouse if you have one. The text size "magically" changes size! I hope this helps. Stan Bearup ----- Original Message ----- From: HMDOUD <mailto:hdoud@satx.rr.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Polyethylene adhesive test Well, I got the 3M DP-8005 (correct number) Polyethylene adhesion test completed. Took a 1 gallon milk bottle and a 1"x 1/16" pice of aluminum, cleaned them with MEK, didn't bother to rough them up and squeezed out a pea size amount of adhesive. Using top notch research methods, I taped a couple of wooden pencils together, with a AAA battery between the pencils in paralell., so I could push the glue plungers equally. One syringe plunger is very small and one is much larger, giving the proper 10:1 glue ratio. I stuck the aluminum bar onto the gallon milk jug, with the pea sized gob of glue and let it squish out the sides of the mating. You have to do all of the "stickin' together" in 3 minutes or less. I let'r sit all night and the next morning tried to get the 2 pieces apart. There was no way...........I finally pulled to the point of tearing the side clear out of the milk jug, ruining a perfectly good galon milk jug and bending a perfectly good piece of aluminum. I should caution anyone wanting to duplicate this, very profesional, exhaustive test, to first empty the milk jug of milk. Needless to say, I'm convinced the the adhesive will, without question, hold a piece of aluminum to the side of a polyethylene milk jug, no matter how hard one pulls on the piece of aluminum. I finally got "some" of the adhesive off of the aluminum, with a hammer and chisel, further damaging my 6"X1"X1/16" piece of aluminum, that I had been saving for several years, ............for something or other. Oh Well........ Anyway, 3M did a bang up job designing this DP-8005 (correct number) adhesive and I'm going to take heart in hand, drill an inch and something or other, hole in the top of my Fox header tank and glue on the aluminum flange, so the low level fuel sensor can be installed. I did check with 3M regarding the compatiblity of gasoline and DP-8005 (correct number) and they told me the was no problem. However, once there was ethanol added to the gas, there would be a major explosion! (Just kidding) Regards............Herb Advanced Scientific Polyethylene Glue Sticking Dept MBAPOOP


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    Time: 09:59:50 AM PST US
    From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> Lynn, I have one too and have operated as low as - 25C ( -15F) with NO troubles. It works by impeller and I think that temp range is most likely for the LED display. It say min flow rate 5 litres per hour and mine read below that but you know alot like to brag how they only burn 4 litres an hour but in reality we all know that a range of 5 t o 130 litres perhour will cover most all Kitfoxes. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:14 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Hi Gary- Can you explain a little about how the F2100 Fuel Flow Indicator works? By that I mean, what senses the flow, an impeller? Where do you insert the sensing device? I'm a little concerned about the specs on this unit....only good down to 32 F? And one other spec...90-300 hp? That puts our 85-horse Jabs a little below their range...have you found this to be a problem? Lynn On Wednesday, September 27, 2006, at 09:35 AM, Algate wrote: > Ive used one with a 582 for 3 years and now have one on my Jabiru. > Probably one of the most useful gauges in my airplane. > > > Gary Algate > > Classic 4 / Jab2200


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    Time: 10:35:18 AM PST US
    From: Nick Scholtes <Nick@Scholtes1.com>
    Subject: Re: Dual Brakes
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Nick Scholtes <Nick@Scholtes1.com> Dennis, Thank you very much, this was EXACTLY the answer I was looking for! Best, Nick > >There was a problem with the Matco brake masters if BOTH right and left >pilot brakes were applied at the same time. This could result in a >complete lockup of the brakes. There was a simple fix made available by >Matco and Skystar. This was brought up on this list in the last week or >so. Check: http://www.carttonic.com/files/file_download.php?fi_id=38522 > >Regards, > >Dennis > > > >


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    Time: 10:38:39 AM PST US
    From: "Stan Bearup" <bearup@ida.net>
    Subject: Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages
    John, I am not sure why it is not working for you. I use Outlook Express for my e-mail, and perhaps you use other another? I am not sure how this works with other packages. Sorry, but I don't have an answer or suggestion for you. Perhaps someone else can clue us in. Thanks. Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: kerrjohna@comcast.net To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Small Text Trick - List Messages Stan, was not successful as described on the recieved messge. The steps you suggested changed the wrap properties which will be helpful for some of the messages I recieve. Is there another set of commands that will alter the font size? An interesting thing though, your suggestion does function as you describe on the reply message. John Kerr


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    Time: 10:54:19 AM PST US
    From: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net>
    Subject: Re: Test Gorilla glue
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net> HMDOUD wrote: Just as soon as someone can tell me how to unstick fingers glued together with Super Glue. ============= Acetone works for that - http://science.howstuffworks.com/question695.htm BTW could you tell me how to remove a plug of cured Gorilla Glue that self sealed a squeeze bottle that was left without the tip cap in place? There's plenty of good glue left below the plug and I'd hate to throw it away. Another good product I've used is Pro Bond polyurethane glue. Rex Colorado


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    Time: 11:08:48 AM PST US
    From: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
    Subject: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage
    Hi Lynn The flow is sensed by a small turbine that has an inlet and outlet nipple. You just put this into the fuel supply line after the filter and before the fuel pump. A signal cable then runs back to the gauge which just requires a 12V supply and ground hook up. As the fuel flows the turbine spins and the flow is monitored and displayed on the LED display. I had over 300 Hrs or 4,500 ltrs through my last gauge without any problem and consistently better than 98% accuracy. As soon as I purchased my new Kitfox I fitted a Navman and I have about 450 Ltrs through this one. I drained the fuel last weekend and checked the volume against the gauge and it was within 1/2 Ltr. You have to make sure that you remember to update the gauge everytime you add or remove fuel as it doesn't read anything from the fuel tanks. I also fitted the Murle Williams low fuel warning light just to have a direct contact with the actual fuel supply. I located both in a small consol that I built for fuel management. See attached Foto. You can see the low fuel light in the bottom right corner of the lexan cover Hope this helps Gary --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Hi Gary- Can you explain a little about how the F2100 Fuel Flow Indicator works? By that I mean, what senses the flow, an impeller? Where do you insert the sensing device? I'm a little concerned about the specs on this unit....only good down to 32 F? And one other spec...90-300 hp? That puts our 85-horse Jabs a little below their range...have you found this to be a problem? Lynn On Wednesday, September 27, 2006, at 09:35 AM, Algate wrote: > I=92ve used one with a 582 for 3 years and now have one on my Jabiru. > Probably one of the most useful gauges in my airplane. > > - > > Gary Algate > > Classic 4 / Jab2200


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    Time: 11:10:24 AM PST US
    From: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
    Subject: Test Gorilla glue
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net> You can buy a CA remover from most RC Model supply shops. Gary Algate -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Test Gorilla glue --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net> HMDOUD wrote: Just as soon as someone can tell me how to unstick fingers glued together with Super Glue. ============= Acetone works for that - http://science.howstuffworks.com/question695.htm


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    Time: 11:21:32 AM PST US
    From: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net>
    Subject: Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net> I think the reason the mouse trick doesn't work for everyone is it may be a function of the mouse software for your brand of mouse or version. Look at your Menu bar for the "View" menu and and there's usually a increase or decease text size choice. Try pressing and holding the "Ctrl" key and tapping the "+" key to increase text. The same trick works to decrease text if you use the "-" (minus) key. (Don't worry about the fact that the "+" normally requires the "Shift" key, it doesn't in this case.) These key commands should work in many other programs. Note that this only works when reading a message, not when you are composing or writing. That's when you would use Font tools. Rex Colorado kerrjohna@comcast.net wrote: > Stan, was not successful as described on the recieved messge. The > steps you suggested changed the wrap properties which will be helpful > for some of the messages I recieve. Is there another set of commands > that will alter the font size? An interesting thing though, your > suggestion does function as you describe on the reply message. > > John Kerr > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Stan Bearup" <bearup@ida.net> > For those who have trouble reading the fine text in some messages, > here is a simple trick that works great.... > > Left click your mouse pointer somewhere in the text to "make it > active", hold down the "control" key on your keyboard and scroll > with the little wheel on top of your mouse if you have one. The > text size "magically" changes size! > > I hope this helps. > > Stan Bearup > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* HMDOUD <mailto:hdoud@satx.rr.com> > *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com > <mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2006 1:41 PM > *Subject:* Kitfox-List: Polyethylene adhesive test > > Well, I got the 3M DP-8005 (correct number) Polyethylene > adhesion test completed. > > Took a 1 gallon milk bottle and a 1"x 1/16" pice of aluminum, > cleaned them with MEK, didn't bother to rough them up and > squeezed out a pea size amount of adhesive. Using top notch > research methods, I taped a couple of wooden pencils together, > with a AAA battery between the pencils in paralell., so I > could push the glue plungers equally. One syringe plunger is > very small and one is much larger, giving the proper 10:1 glue > ratio. > > I stuck the aluminum bar onto the gallon milk jug, with the > pea sized gob of glue and let it squish out the sides of the > mating. You have to do all of the "stickin' together" in 3 > minutes or less. I let'r sit all night and the next morning > tried to get the 2 pieces apart. > > There was no way...........I finally pulled to the point of > tearing the side clear out of the milk jug, ruining a > perfectly good galon milk jug and bending a perfectly good > piece of aluminum. > > I should caution anyone wanting to duplicate this, very > profesional, exhaustive test, to first empty the milk jug of milk. > > Needless to say, I'm convinced the the adhesive will, without > question, hold a piece of aluminum to the side of a > polyethylene milk jug, no matter how hard one pulls on the > piece of aluminum. > > I finally got "some" of the adhesive off of the aluminum, with > a hammer and chisel, further damaging my 6"X1"X1/16" piece of > aluminum, that I had been saving for several years, > ............for something or other. > > Oh Well........ > > Anyway, 3M did a bang up job designing this DP-8005 (correct > number) adhesive and I'm going to take heart in hand, drill an > inch and something or other, hole in the top of my Fox header > tank and glue on the aluminum flange, so the low level fuel > sensor can be installed. > > I did check with 3M regarding the compatiblity of gasoline and > DP-8005 (correct number) and they told me the was no > problem. However, once there was ethanol added to the gas, > there would be a major explosion! (Just kidding) > > Regards............Herb Advanced Scientific Polyethylene > Glue Sticking Dept MBAPOOP > > >* > > >* > >* > > >* > -- Karla and Rex Hefferan Gypsy Bee Innkeepers 719-651-5198 or 719-651-9192


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    Time: 11:25:28 AM PST US
    From: Aerobatics@aol.com
    Subject: CA remover....
    What it really is ....Nitromethane and acetone ... mostly. But, the prescribed solution is time. Hard to do.... but BEFORE you play with CA do not wash your hands, our bodies produce oils that really interferes with the bond. Even better, a bit of lotion and the Ca should be really easy to remove...... CA glue was originally developed for bonding skin, so it does that very well! Skin regenerates rapidly, be patient. If you rush and panic, you can cause injury... The CA world offers many different types. The stuff I really like is the "flex" because it does not become brittle and can shatter... Best not to use accelerator, the bond is not quite as strong.... Best of luck! Dave KF2 582


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    Time: 11:33:23 AM PST US
    From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
    Subject: Student InsuranceStudent Insurance
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com> Is your fox a tailwheel? -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David C. Watterson Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Student InsuranceStudent Insurance --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David C. Watterson" <dcw@dddirectories.com> I am a student and just got insurance with Falcon. Its pricey but at least I have it.


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    Time: 12:17:57 PM PST US
    From: "John Oakley" <john@leptron.com>
    Subject: CA remover....
    For info on CA's see www.Leptron.com <http://www.leptron.com/> John Oakley _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Aerobatics@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:25 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: CA remover.... What it really is ....Nitromethane and acetone ... mostly. But, the prescribed solution is time. Hard to do.... but BEFORE you play with CA do not wash your hands, our bodies produce oils that really interferes with the bond. Even better, a bit of lotion and the Ca should be really easy to remove...... CA glue was originally developed for bonding skin, so it does that very well! Skin regenerates rapidly, be patient. If you rush and panic, you can cause injury... The CA world offers many different types. The stuff I really like is the "flex" because it does not become brittle and can shatter... Best not to use accelerator, the bond is not quite as strong.... Best of luck! Dave KF2 582


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    Time: 12:19:48 PM PST US
    From: "John Oakley" <john@leptron.com>
    Subject: Test Gorilla glue
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <john@leptron.com> Your wife's finger nail polish remover will do it also if in a pinch.. John Oakley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Algate Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:14 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Test Gorilla glue --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate@attglobal.net> You can buy a CA remover from most RC Model supply shops. Gary Algate -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Test Gorilla glue --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net> HMDOUD wrote: Just as soon as someone can tell me how to unstick fingers glued together with Super Glue. ============= Acetone works for that - http://science.howstuffworks.com/question695.htm


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    Time: 12:54:00 PM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages
    It does not seem to work with explorer.... -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Stan Bearup" <bearup@ida.net> John, I am not sure why it is not working for you. I use Outlook Express for my e-mail, and perhaps you use other another? I am not sure how this works with other packages. Sorry, but I don't have an answer or suggestion for you. Perhaps someone else can clue us in. Thanks. Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: kerrjohna@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Small Text Trick - List Messages Stan, was not successful as described on the recieved messge. The steps you suggested changed the wrap properties which will be helpful for some of the messages I recieve. Is there another set of commands that will alter the font size? An interesting thing though, your suggestion does function as you describe on the reply message. John Kerr <html><body> <DIV>It does not seem to work with explorer....</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Stan Bearup" &lt;bearup@ida.net&gt; <BR> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT size=2>John,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>I am not sure why it is not working for you. I use Outlook Express for my e-mail, and perhaps you use other another? I am not sure how this works with other packages. Sorry, but I don't have an answer or&nbsp;suggestion for you. Perhaps someone else can clue us in.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Stan</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=kerrjohna@comcast.net href="mailto:kerrjohna@comcast.net">kerrjohna@comcast.net</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=kitfox-list@matronics.com href="mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com">kitfox-list@matronics.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:17 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Kitfox-List: Small Text Trick - List Messages</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Stan, was not successful as described on the recieved messge.&nbsp; The steps you suggested changed the wrap properties which will be helpful for some of the messages I recieve.&nbsp; Is there another set of commands that will alter the font size? An interesting thing though, your suggestion does function as you describe on the reply message.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>John Kerr</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE><B><FONT face="courier new,courier" size=2 color000000?> </B></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 01:10:11 PM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages
    Rex, Thanks for your attempt to help, but with my equipment the trick works when creating a response but not when working with recieved mail. The control + sign doesn't work in any mode. John -------------- Original message -------------- From: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex > > I think the reason the mouse trick doesn't work for everyone is it may > be a function of the mouse software for your brand of mouse or version. > > Look at your Menu bar for the "View" menu and and there's usually a > increase or decease text size choice. Try pressing and holding the > "Ctrl" key and tapping the "+" key to increase text. The same trick > works to decrease text if you use the "-" (minus) key. (Don't worry > about the fact that the "+" normally requires the "Shift" key, it > doesn't in this case.) These key commands should work in many other > programs. Note that this only works when reading a message, not when you > are composing or writing. That's when you would use Font tools. > Rex > Colorado > > kerrjohna@comcast.net wrote: > > > Stan, was not successful as described on the recieved messge. The > > steps you suggested changed the wrap properties which will be helpful > > for some of the messages I recieve. Is there another set of commands > > that will alter the font size? An interesting thing though, your > > suggestion does function as you describe on the reply message. > > > > John Kerr > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: "Stan Bearup" > > For those who have trouble reading the fine text in some messages, > > here is a simple trick that works great.... > > > > Left click your mouse pointer somewhere in the text to "make it > > active", hold down the "control" key on your keyboard and scroll > > with the little wheel on top of your mouse if you have one. The > > text size "magically" changes size! > > > > I hope this helps. > > > > Stan Bearup > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* HMDOUD > > *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > > *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2006 1:41 PM > > *Subject:* Kitfox-List: Polyethylene adhesive test > > > > Well, I got the 3M DP-8005 (correct number) Polyethylene > > adhesion test completed. > > > > Took a 1 gallon milk bottle and a 1"x 1/16" pice of aluminum, > > cleaned them with MEK, didn't bother to rough them up and > > squeezed out a pea size amount of adhesive. Using top notch > > research methods, I taped a couple of wooden pencils together, > > with a AAA battery between the pencils in paralell., so I > > could push the glue plungers equally. One syringe plunger is > > very small and one is much larger, giving the proper 10:1 glue > > ratio. > > > > I stuck the aluminum bar onto the gallon milk jug, with the > > pea sized gob of glue and let it squish out the sides of the > > mating. You have to do all of the "stickin' together" in 3 > > minutes or less. I let'r sit all night and the next morning > > tried to get the 2 pieces apart. > > > > There was no way...........I finally pulled to the point of > > tearing the side clear out of the milk jug, ruining a > > perfectly good galon milk jug and bending a perfectly good > > piece of aluminum. > > > > I should caution anyone wanting to duplicate this, very > > profesional, exhaustive test, to first empty the milk jug of milk. > > > > Needless to say, I'm convinced the the adhesive will, without > > question, hold a piece of aluminum to the side of a > > polyethylene milk jug, no matter how hard one pulls on the > > piece of aluminum. > > > > I finally got "some" of the adhesive off of the aluminum, with > > a hammer and chisel, further damaging my 6"X1"X1/16" piece of > > aluminum, that I had been saving for several years, > > ............for something or other. > > > > Oh Well........ > > > > Anyway, 3M did a bang up job designing this DP-8005 (correct > > number) adhesive and I'm going to take heart in hand, drill an > > inch and something or other, hole in the top of my Fox header > > tank and glue on the aluminum flange, so the low level fuel > > sensor can be installed. > > > > I did check with 3M regarding the compatiblity of gasoline and > > DP-8005 (correct number) and they told me the was no > > problem. However, once there was ethanol added to the gas, > > there would be a major explosion! (Just kidding) > > > > Regards............Herb Advanced Scientific Polyethylene > > Glue Sticking Dept MBAPOOP > > > > > >* > > > > > >* > > > >* > > > > > >* > > > > -- > Karla and Rex Hefferan > Gypsy Bee Innkeepers > 719-651-5198 or 719-651-9192 > > > > > <html><body> <DIV>Rex, Thanks for your attempt to help, but with my equipment the trick works when creating a response but not when working with recieved mail.&nbsp; The control + sign doesn't work in any mode.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>John</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: Rex &lt;gypsybee@copper.net&gt; <BR><BR>&gt; --&gt; Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <GYPSYBEE@COPPER.NET><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I think the reason the mouse trick doesn't work for everyone is it may <BR>&gt; be a function of the mouse software for your brand of mouse or version. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Look at your Menu bar for the "View" menu and and there's usually a <BR>&gt; increase or decease text size choice. Try pressing and holding the <BR>&gt; "Ctrl" key and tapping the "+" key to increase text. The same trick <BR>&gt; works to decrease text if you use the "-" (minus) key. (Don't worry <BR>&gt; about the fact that the "+" normally requires the "Shift" key, it <BR>&gt; doesn't in this case.) These key commands should work in many other <BR>&gt; programs. Note that this only works when reading a message, not when you <BR>&gt; are comp osing or writing. That's when you would use Font tools. <BR>&gt; Rex <BR>&gt; Colorado <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; kerrjohna@comcast.net wrote: <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Stan, was not successful as described on the recieved messge. The <BR>&gt; &gt; steps you suggested changed the wrap properties which will be helpful <BR>&gt; &gt; for some of the messages I recieve. Is there another set of commands <BR>&gt; &gt; that will alter the font size? An interesting thing though, your <BR>&gt; &gt; suggestion does function as you describe on the reply message. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; John Kerr <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; -------------- Original message -------------- <BR>&gt; &gt; From: "Stan Bearup" <BEARUP@IDA.NET><BR>&gt; &gt; For those who have trouble reading the fine text in some messages, <BR>&gt; &gt; here is a simple trick that works great.... <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Left click your mouse pointer somewhere in the text to "make it <BR>&gt; &gt; active", hold down the "cont rol" k ey on your keyboard and scroll <BR>&gt; &gt; with the little wheel on top of your mouse if you have one. The <BR>&gt; &gt; text size "magically" changes size! <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; I hope this helps. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Stan Bearup <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt; &gt; *From:* HMDOUD <mailto:hdoud@satx.rr.com><BR>&gt; &gt; *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com <BR>&gt; &gt; <mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com><BR>&gt; &gt; *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2006 1:41 PM <BR>&gt; &gt; *Subject:* Kitfox-List: Polyethylene adhesive test <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Well, I got the 3M DP-8005 (correct number) Polyethylene <BR>&gt; &gt; adhesion test completed. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Took a 1 gallon milk bottle and a 1"x 1/16" pice of aluminum, <BR>&gt; &gt; cleaned them with MEK, didn't bother to rough them up and <BR>&gt; &gt; squeezed out a pea size amount of adhesive. Using top notch <BR>&gt; &gt; research methods, I taped a couple of wood en pen cils together, <BR>&gt; &gt; with a AAA battery between the pencils in paralell., so I <BR>&gt; &gt; could push the glue plungers equally. One syringe plunger is <BR>&gt; &gt; very small and one is much larger, giving the proper 10:1 glue <BR>&gt; &gt; ratio. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; I stuck the aluminum bar onto the gallon milk jug, with the <BR>&gt; &gt; pea sized gob of glue and let it squish out the sides of the <BR>&gt; &gt; mating. You have to do all of the "stickin' together" in 3 <BR>&gt; &gt; minutes or less. I let'r sit all night and the next morning <BR>&gt; &gt; tried to get the 2 pieces apart. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; There was no way...........I finally pulled to the point of <BR>&gt; &gt; tearing the side clear out of the milk jug, ruining a <BR>&gt; &gt; perfectly good galon milk jug and bending a perfectly good <BR>&gt; &gt; piece of aluminum. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; I should caution anyone wanting to duplicate this, very <BR>&gt; &gt; profesional, exhaus tive test, to first empty the milk jug of milk. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Needless to say, I'm convinced the the adhesive will, without <BR>&gt; &gt; question, hold a piece of aluminum to the side of a <BR>&gt; &gt; polyethylene milk jug, no matter how hard one pulls on the <BR>&gt; &gt; piece of aluminum. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; I finally got "some" of the adhesive off of the aluminum, with <BR>&gt; &gt; a hammer and chisel, further damaging my 6"X1"X1/16" piece of <BR>&gt; &gt; aluminum, that I had been saving for several years, <BR>&gt; &gt; ............for something or other. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Oh Well........ <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Anyway, 3M did a bang up job designing this DP-8005 (correct <BR>&gt; &gt; number) adhesive and I'm going to take heart in hand, drill an <BR>&gt; &gt; inch and something or other, hole in the top of my Fox header <BR>&gt; &gt; tank and glue on the aluminum flange, so the low level fuel <BR>&gt; &gt; sensor can be installed . <BR> Archi ></mai lto:kitfox-list@matronics.com></mailto:hdoud@satx.rr.com> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 01:10:19 PM PST US
    From: Don & Betty Stevenson <shericom@rogers.com>
    Subject: Small Text Trick - List Messages
    Hay guys, If this sounds too much, get an Apple-just hold down the apple key and hit the + key, each time you do the text gets larger, or smaller with the- key. Don Stevenson John Oakley <john@leptron.com> wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} That is so cool, and I thought I was a computer jock. John Oakley --------------------------------- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stan Bearup Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:44 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Small Text Trick - List Messages For those who have trouble reading the fine text in some messages, here is a simple trick that works great.... Left click your mouse pointer somewhere in the text to "make it active", hold down the "control" key on your keyboard and scroll with the little wheel on top of your mouse if you have one. The text size "magically" changes size! I hope this helps. Stan Bearup ----- Original Message ----- From: HMDOUD To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Polyethylene adhesive test Well, I got the 3M DP-8005 (correct number) Polyethylene adhesion test completed. Took a 1 gallon milk bottle and a 1"x 1/16" pice of aluminum, cleaned them with MEK, didn't bother to rough them up and squeezed out a pea size amount of adhesive. Using top notch research methods, I taped a couple of wooden pencils together, with a AAA battery between the pencils in paralell., so I could push the glue plungers equally. One syringe plunger is very small and one is much larger, giving the proper 10:1 glue ratio. I stuck the aluminum bar onto the gallon milk jug, with the pea sized gob of glue and let it squish out the sides of the mating. You have to do all of the "stickin' together" in 3 minutes or less. I let'r sit all night and the next morning tried to get the 2 pieces apart. There was no way...........I finally pulled to the point of tearing the side clear out of the milk jug, ruining a perfectly good galon milk jug and bending a perfectly good piece of aluminum. I should caution anyone wanting to duplicate this, very profesional, exhaustive test, to first empty the milk jug of milk. Needless to say, I'm convinced the the adhesive will, without question, hold a piece of aluminum to the side of a polyethylene milk jug, no matter how hard one pulls on the piece of aluminum. I finally got "some" of the adhesive off of the aluminum, with a hammer and chisel, further damaging my 6"X1"X1/16" piece of aluminum, that I had been saving for several years, ............for something or other. Oh Well........ Anyway, 3M did a bang up job designing this DP-8005 (correct number) adhesive and I'm going to take heart in hand, drill an inch and something or other, hole in the top of my Fox header tank and glue on the aluminum flange, so the low level fuel sensor can be installed. I did check with 3M regarding the compatiblity of gasoline and DP-8005 (correct number) and they told me the was no problem. However, once there was ethanol added to the gas, there would be a major explosion! (Just kidding) Regards............Herb Advanced Scientific Polyethylene Glue Sticking Dept MBAPOOP


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    Time: 01:16:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: CA remover....
    From: vft@aol.com
    Gee Dave, How would you know anything about CA:) Danny Melnik F1 #25 Melbourne (FL) Rocket Factory PS: Clipped Cub still going strong -----Original Message----- From: Aerobatics@aol.com Sent: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 2:24 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: CA remover.... What it really is ....Nitromethane and acetone ... mostly. But, the prescribed solution is time. Hard to do.... but BEFORE you play with CA do not wash your hands, our bodies produce oils that really interferes with the bond. Even better, a bit of lotion and the Ca should be really easy to remove...... CA glue was originally developed for bonding skin, so it does that very well! Skin regenerates rapidly, be patient. If you rush and panic, you can cause injury... The CA world offers many different types. The stuff I really like is the "flex" because it does not become brittle and can shatter... Best not to use accelerator, the bond is not quite as strong.... Best of luck! Dave KF2 582 ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.


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    Time: 01:27:16 PM PST US
    From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages
    I use outlook express and it works here. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: kerrjohna@comcast.net To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Small Text Trick - List Messages It does not seem to work with explorer.... -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Stan Bearup" <bearup@ida.net> John, I am not sure why it is not working for you. I use Outlook Express for my e-mail, and perhaps you use other another? I am not sure how this works with other packages. Sorry, but I don't have an answer or suggestion for you. Perhaps someone else can clue us in. Thanks. Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: kerrjohna@comcast.net To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Small Text Trick - List Messages Stan, was not successful as described on the recieved messge. The steps you suggested changed the wrap properties which will be helpful for some of the messages I recieve. Is there another set of commands that will alter the font size? An interesting thing though, your suggestion does function as you describe on the reply message. John Kerr


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    Time: 01:47:18 PM PST US
    From: TCFosser@aol.com
    Subject: Fuel Stickers
    Someone on the list had sent me a file with the fuel calibation marks that you print out and adhere to the fuel guage in the wing root but my computer hard drive where I had them stored has died and I was wondering if someone could send them to me again? Thank you. Tim tfosser@aol.com


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    Time: 03:29:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Thanks Dave and Gary...I think that answers all my questions. Lynn On Wednesday, September 27, 2006, at 12:59 PM, Dave wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com> > > Lynn, > > I have one too and have operated as low as - 25C ( -15F) with NO > troubles. > It works by impeller and I think that temp range is most likely for > the LED display. > It say min flow rate 5 litres per hour and mine read below that but > you know alot like to brag how they only burn 4 litres an hour but in > reality we all know that a range of 5 t o 130 litres perhour will > cover most all Kitfoxes. > > Dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:14 AM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Navman F2100 Fuel Guage > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> > > Hi Gary- > Can you explain a little about how the F2100 Fuel Flow Indicator works? > By that I mean, what senses the flow, an impeller? Where do you insert > the sensing device? > I'm a little concerned about the specs on this unit....only good down > to 32 F? And one other spec...90-300 hp? That puts our 85-horse Jabs a > little below their range...have you found this to be a problem? > > Lynn > On Wednesday, September 27, 2006, at 09:35 AM, Algate wrote: > >> Ive used one with a 582 for 3 years and now have one on my Jabiru. >> Probably one of the most useful gauges in my airplane. >> >> >> >> Gary Algate >> >> Classic 4 / Jab2200 > >


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    Time: 04:32:18 PM PST US
    From: "mscotter" <mscotter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Small Text Trick - List Messages
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "mscotter" <mscotter@comcast.net> John, are you sure you've highlighted/selected the text in question before trying trick with the Ctrl key? -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:21 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Small Text Trick - List Messages --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net> I think the reason the mouse trick doesn't work for everyone is it may be a function of the mouse software for your brand of mouse or version. Look at your Menu bar for the "View" menu and and there's usually a increase or decease text size choice. Try pressing and holding the "Ctrl" key and tapping the "+" key to increase text. The same trick works to decrease text if you use the "-" (minus) key. (Don't worry about the fact that the "+" normally requires the "Shift" key, it doesn't in this case.) These key commands should work in many other programs. Note that this only works when reading a message, not when you are composing or writing. That's when you would use Font tools. Rex Colorado kerrjohna@comcast.net wrote: > Stan, was not successful as described on the recieved messge. The > steps you suggested changed the wrap properties which will be helpful > for some of the messages I recieve. Is there another set of commands > that will alter the font size? An interesting thing though, your > suggestion does function as you describe on the reply message. > > John Kerr >


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    Time: 05:03:32 PM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
    Subject: Re: Small Text Trick - List Messages
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com> If using Outlook Express there's no need to highlight anything. Place the cursor anywhere in the main preview page (not on a message), hold down the Cntrl key, then roll the scroll key in or out to get the font size you want. I'm old so I have mine nice and big! Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "mscotter" <mscotter@comcast.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Small Text Trick - List Messages > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "mscotter" <mscotter@comcast.net> > > John, are you sure you've highlighted/selected the text in question before > trying trick with the Ctrl key? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:21 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Small Text Trick - List Messages > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net> > > I think the reason the mouse trick doesn't work for everyone is it may > be a function of the mouse software for your brand of mouse or version. > > Look at your Menu bar for the "View" menu and and there's usually a > increase or decease text size choice. Try pressing and holding the > "Ctrl" key and tapping the "+" key to increase text. The same trick > works to decrease text if you use the "-" (minus) key. (Don't worry > about the fact that the "+" normally requires the "Shift" key, it > doesn't in this case.) These key commands should work in many other > programs. Note that this only works when reading a message, not when you > are composing or writing. That's when you would use Font tools. > Rex > Colorado > > kerrjohna@comcast.net wrote: > > > Stan, was not successful as described on the recieved messge. The > > steps you suggested changed the wrap properties which will be helpful > > for some of the messages I recieve. Is there another set of commands > > that will alter the font size? An interesting thing though, your > > suggestion does function as you describe on the reply message. > > > > John Kerr > > > >


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    Time: 05:04:13 PM PST US
    From: "jeff puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com> Fred, I plan on bringing two kitfox's up for the fly-in. Are there hotels nearby? Jeff Classic IV Columbus, Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:12 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06) > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com> > > Bill, Lynn, Deke ... glad for your positive replies. > - I'll be glad to assist with any road work, chauffeur. > .... maybe I'll hang my wings on the jeep:) > > Fred... enjoy your trip. See you next time. > > Richard > > do not archive > [/u] > > -------- > Richard in SW Michigan > Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64168#64168 > > >


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    Time: 05:58:20 PM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
    Subject: Small Text Trick - List Messages
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com> oops. Below where I said "scroll key" I should have written "scroll wheel" on the mouse. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:02 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Small Text Trick - List Messages > If using Outlook Express there's no need to highlight anything. Place the > cursor anywhere in the main preview page (not on a message), hold down the > Cntrl key, then roll the scroll key in or out to get the font size you want. > I'm old so I have mine nice and big! > Deke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mscotter" <mscotter@comcast.net> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 7:30 PM > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Small Text Trick - List Messages > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "mscotter" <mscotter@comcast.net> > > > > John, are you sure you've highlighted/selected the text in question before > > trying trick with the Ctrl key? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:21 PM > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Small Text Trick - List Messages > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex <gypsybee@copper.net> > > > > I think the reason the mouse trick doesn't work for everyone is it may > > be a function of the mouse software for your brand of mouse or version. > > > > Look at your Menu bar for the "View" menu and and there's usually a > > increase or decease text size choice. Try pressing and holding the > > "Ctrl" key and tapping the "+" key to increase text. The same trick > > works to decrease text if you use the "-" (minus) key. (Don't worry > > about the fact that the "+" normally requires the "Shift" key, it > > doesn't in this case.) These key commands should work in many other > > programs. Note that this only works when reading a message, not when you > > are composing or writing. That's when you would use Font tools. > > Rex > > Colorado > > > > kerrjohna@comcast.net wrote: > > > > > Stan, was not successful as described on the recieved messge. The > > > steps you suggested changed the wrap properties which will be helpful > > > for some of the messages I recieve. Is there another set of commands > > > that will alter the font size? An interesting thing though, your > > > suggestion does function as you describe on the reply message. > > > > > > John Kerr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:23:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)
    From: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Rabbers" <rira1950@yahoo.com> Great! Jeff - TWO foxes ! I think that makes 6. So far potential Kitfoxers are: Bill Willyard, Lynn Matteson, Deke Morisse, John May, Jeff Puls 1,2,3,4,6 Kitfoxes!!!!!!! .... still room for more. Sorry I cant offer accommodations My current living situation would be topped by any camper. Next time (next year) Ill gladly offer bunk space to any Great Lakes Kitfox pilot. (and any other Kitfox pilot...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Jeff asked...Are there hotels nearby? I did a bit of searching only Willow Paw is confirmed. Ill gladly pursue further .. The closest motel is Exit 41 Motel. (Local but unconfirmed) 137 E St Joseph Watervliet, MI 49098 Tel: (269) . Streets and maps # is incorrect Willow Paw Motel . (~ 2 miles west, confirmed open. Rates $50-75) 4881 Wil O Paw Dr Coloma, MI 49038 Tel: (269) 468-6080 . Lots of options over toward Benton Harbor/St. Joe. Ill be glad to shuttle. Do not archive -------- Richard in SW Michigan Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64408#64408


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    Time: 07:14:54 PM PST US
    From: Malcolmbru@AOL.COM
    Subject: mod 2 for sale
    _KITFOX KIT_ (http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_120793_Kitfox+Kit.html ) =A2 $15,000 =A2 FOR SALE =A2 Kitfox Kit 95% complete 582 Rotax, all new call for details. Will deliver most anywhere in US. =A2 Contact _Dan Brandmah l_ (http://www.barnstormers.com/contact_seller.php?to=918&id=120793&title =Kitfox+Kit&ret urn=/Ultralight%20Classifieds.html?page=26) - (http://www.barnstormers.com/contact_seller.php?to=918&id=120793&title =Kitfox Kit&return=/Ultralight%20Classifieds.html?page=26) located Aylett, VA U SA =A2 Telephone: 804-769-2756 =A2 Posted August 23, 2006 =A2 _Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser_ (http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?mode=usersearch&user=cranks4u@i nna.net) =A2 _Recommend This Ad to a Friend_ (http://www.barnstormers.com/recommend.php?id=120793&title=Kitfox+Kit) =A2 _Send a Message_ (http://www.barnstormers.com/contact_seller.php?to=918&id=120793&title =Kitfox+Kit&return=/Ultralight%20Classifieds.htm l?page=26)


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    Time: 07:50:28 PM PST US
    From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
    Subject: Narco transsponder
    I have just acquired a Narco AT50A and AR-500 with no wiring harness. I do have all of the connectors but the wires have been cut. When I downloaded the wiring diagrams from Narco they were not very clear. Is anybody familiar with this combo that can translate the diagram into English.


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    Time: 09:53:13 PM PST US
    From: "clemwehner" <clemwehner@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Narco transsponder
    I might be able to help. I just bought a used AT50A and it had docs with it. I'll check tomorrow to see if it has a wiring diagram. Clem Wehner Lawton OK KFIV_912 -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kirk hull Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:49 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Narco transsponder I have just acquired a Narco AT50A and AR-500 with no wiring harness. I do have all of the connectors but the wires have been cut. When I downloaded the wiring diagrams from Narco they were not very clear. Is anybody familiar with this combo that can translate the diagram into English.


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    Time: 10:13:07 PM PST US
    From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
    Subject: synthetic oils
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com> Mark what size and pitch prop do you have? Ron NB Ore >From: "Mark Thompson" <kr2@earthlink.net> >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: synthetic oils >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:58:48 -0400 > >Thanks to you guys who asnwered my synthetic oil questions,I have found >that using fully synthetic oil in my VW and using 100LL is not a good >mix,my oil temp went from 180 to 250 and oil pressure went from 60 to 20, >this is due to the lead in the fuel according to tech support so you guys >were right on with your opinions,anyway back to using standard oil and all >temps and pressures are back in the norm. >Note: an old A.P. likes using a qrt of marvel mystery oil at every oil >change to acheive the same thing synthetics does,so I have tried this and >flown off 2 more hrs and all is well.... > > >Mark Thompson >kr2@earthlink.net >EarthLink Revolves Around You. _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip


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    Time: 11:21:21 PM PST US
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    Subject: Re: Kitfox5 needs cabin heat
    I just bought a KF-5 from Calif that has no cabin heat. The problem~~~ I'm in Alaska~~ Burr!!! Does anyone have plans to get cabin heat quick and cheep? The KF has an EA81 100hp subaru engine. Please help!!! Tha nks, Layne ________________________________________________________________________ <html><P>I just bought a KF-5 from Calif that has no cabin heat.&nbsp; T he problem~~~ I'm in Alaska~~ Burr!!!&nbsp; Does anyone have plans to ge t cabin heat quick and cheep? The&nbsp;KF has an EA81 100hp subaru engin e.&nbsp; Please help!!!&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks, Layne&nbsp;</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <font face="Times-New-Roman" size="2"><br><br>______________________ __________________________________________________<br> Visit <a href="http://www.juno.com/value">http://www.juno.com/value</a > to sign up today!<br></font> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>




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