Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:08 AM - Re: Graphics body wrap! (Brian Rodgers)
2. 06:10 AM - Carb sockets (HMDOUD)
3. 06:17 AM - Grove landing gear (Gary Olson)
4. 06:41 AM - Re: Carb sockets (Shane Sather)
5. 06:44 AM - Priming the oil injection pump (HMDOUD)
6. 06:51 AM - Re: Graphics body wrap! (flier)
7. 07:06 AM - Re: Graphics body wrap! (Dave)
8. 07:48 AM - right seat brakes (Dill Family)
9. 07:55 AM - Re: Carb sockets (Jimmie Blackwell)
10. 07:55 AM - Re: right seat brakes (Dave)
11. 09:04 AM - Re: Student InsuranceStudent InsuranceStudent InsuranceStudent I (Bernhard10)
12. 11:02 AM - Graphics body wrap! (Paul Seehafer)
13. 11:45 AM - Re: Graphics body wrap! (Michel Verheughe)
14. 12:13 PM - Re: Graphics body wrap! (Jimmie Blackwell)
15. 12:21 PM - Re: Undercarriage - Bungee nico press (jakelewis)
16. 12:31 PM - vinyl graphics (Fox5flyer)
17. 01:22 PM - Undercarriage - Bungee nico press (Fox5flyer)
18. 01:56 PM - Re: Kitfox 5 1400 Gross Weight (Dave and Diane)
19. 02:01 PM - model II cowl (kirk hull)
20. 02:21 PM - Re: Undercarriage - Bungee nico press (Michel Verheughe)
21. 02:58 PM - Re: Carb sockets (Eric)
22. 03:53 PM - Re: vinyl graphics (QSS)
23. 06:10 PM - Re: Undercarriage - Bungee nico press (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
24. 06:34 PM - Re: Thanks to Listers (Noel Loveys)
25. 06:38 PM - Re: Test Gorilla glue (Noel Loveys)
26. 06:52 PM - More Flight Test Questions (Guy Buchanan)
27. 07:03 PM - Re: Graphics body wrap! (Guy Buchanan)
28. 07:03 PM - Re: Graphics body wrap! (Guy Buchanan)
29. 07:05 PM - Re: Kitfox 5 1400 Gross Weight (jdmcbean)
30. 07:23 PM - Re: Graphics body wrap! (Noel Loveys)
31. 07:26 PM - Re: vinyl graphics (Fox5flyer)
32. 07:31 PM - Re: Graphics body wrap! (Noel Loveys)
33. 07:31 PM - Re: Undercarriage - Bungee nico press (Fox5flyer)
34. 07:55 PM - Re: vinyl graphics (Fox5flyer)
35. 08:15 PM - Re: Undercarriage - Bungee nico press (mic thiessen)
36. 08:44 PM - Re: More Flight Test Questions (Dave)
37. 09:31 PM - Re: model II cowl (jdmcbean)
38. 09:46 PM - Re: model II cowl (john perry)
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| Subject: | Re: Graphics body wrap! |
Yep, and no 'flutter' issues ! ;o)
----- Original Message -----
From: Jimmie Blackwell
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
A friend of mine has it on the fuselage of his Model IV with about 600
hours. No problems.
Lowell Fitt <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt"
Hi, David.
I have a stripe down the fuselage side of my IV done with vinyl. I
know
there are several grades, but suspect what you are looking at is of
the
better type.
Regarding delamination. I doubt it would be a problem as far as a
catastrophic failure is concerned. What you might find is a subtle
peeling
back at the leading edge. I just checked mine and there is no
evidence of
any separation and it has been on the airplane for eight years and
800 hours
and the leading edge of the tape is unprotected, i.e. begins on the
flat
surface of the door.
Incidentally, with my video camera set-up I have used 3M vinyl tape
quite a
bit to hold on some fairings between the camera and the fuselage on
the lift
strut and have had no peeling at the leading edge so far. I do
replace it
from time to time, though.
As a side note, when California tightened up its VOC requirements,
United
Airlines at their San Francisco maintainance facility expermented
with what
they called decals as a substitute for the paint after their paint
facility
was shut down. The "decals" were actually laser cut vinyl adhesive
sheets.
I don't know the result of that experiment, but they didn't seem to
be
initially concerned at close to 600 mph. My guess is that rather
than
concern over control problems, they would be concerned about
cosmetics and
cost. In other words, if they came off - serious negative image
issues and
replacing them frequently = money wasted.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "David C.
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I sent the information below to the list yesterday as a matter of
information, but it didn't make it through. Possibly the pictures
included in the message, caused the email to be stripped.
Below, find the yesterday's information, without color and photographs.
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Here's something of interest to all listers.........Rex Shaw, all the
way from Australia. one of our Listers, sent me this information
concerning an improved product for the limited life Rotax rubber and
always cracking, carb sockets. Competition always provides the way.
Maybe this info has been in prior emails, if so I haven't seen it.
Ordering mine today.
I hope the pictures and all of the JBM information comes through OK.
Herb
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JBM Industries manufactures carburetor sockets for Rotax Aircraft
Engines in high quality material.
If you are interested in a vastly improved part for your engine
that is made in the USA, and at a special low introductory price, this
notice is for you.
Here is information on our Rotax carburetor sockets:
These 2 cycle sockets fit BING 54 carburetors that are used on currently
manufactured ROTAX engines used on ultralight & experimental aircraft:
JBM makes three types of Carburetor Sockets: Prices good
thru August 2006
867-484 for Rotax 503 and 447 engines $21 each $31.50 list
price
867-696 for Rotax 582 & 618 engines $24 each $36.00
Shipping & Handling by USPS is $4.95 for up to one pound in USA and
Canada.
These sockets have the mechanical locking rib that prevents carbs
from being "thrown" .
Same durometer as original.
Sockets are stamped JBM. They cannot be confused with original. Ask
for JBM sockets
This is our own proprietary rubber compound. They withstand oil,
gasoline, ozone and weather and can be run at temperatures of F. 300
They will last up to 10 years in normal use. They require no grease or
solvents to be smeared on them.
JBM sockets have no shelf life and can be stored for years in a
plastic bag.
JBM Guarantees your satisfaction. ( Will your parts supplier? )
The value isn't in the price, but in the performance and the longevity.
Remember that JBM Sockets are NOT made by ROTAX, and you cannot
get them from ROTAX dealers and repair stations that only sell ROTAX
parts.
Buy direct from the manufacturer and SAVE! MADE IN USA Save this
notice as you will want these in the future!
( Flange mount sockets are sold out & only available on a periodic
basis as production is limited.)
To order:
E-mail Jbmindustries@aol.com ......... Include "Carb Socket" in subject
line.
If you use Visa or MasterCard please include: Number, Expiration, and
the last 3 digits of the code in the signature area.
Be sure you have a mailing address that we can ship to, as we will use
Priority Mail. JBM ships worldwide.
JBM Industries .................... VISA and MasterCard
3761 Morley Dr.
Kent, Ohio 44240 USA Jbmindustries@aol.com 330-678-9537
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| Subject: | Grove landing gear |
If anyone is interested, there is a Grove aluminum landing gear for sale on E-Bay.
Gary
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Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.
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| Subject: | Re: Carb sockets |
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| Subject: | Priming the oil injection pump |
Listers............
A note concerning the problem of really knowing whether or not the oil
inection pump was really doing it's job.
Recall that, Rex Shaw sent a solution to the pump wondering problem.
His solution was to hook an electric drill onto the pump shaft and watch
the oil exit tubes in the intake manifold.
His idea worked like a charm! Found out that I didn't have to put the
drill in the crankcase.
I removed the carbs and rubber sockets, took out the 7 or 8, 8mm bolts
holding the larger housing, holding the oil injector pump (where the
white drive gear hides). Hooked up my handy dandy electric drill with
an 8mm socket on an extention, turned the drill to "reverse" (won't work
otherwise) And turn that hummer on. Took about a minute and lo and
behold, the oil came spurting outa the manifold jets.
The biggest problem was, trying to get the "O" ring (it's not really an
"O" ring. It's a square ring, back in it's groove on the engine. But
I've never heard it called a sqaure ring) And stay there, while I put
the pump housing back on the engine. That lil' bugger popped out, I
don't know how many times, right when I thought I had the sitcheation
under control.
Learned 6 "new words" in the process. Be happy to pass them on to
anyone who might need them, but can't spell 'em.
Finally got the "square ring" in place and after taking my medicine,
everything's hunky dory.
Regards.........Herb
PS: As an aside to Micheal who broke his jaw, laughing at my attemps at
being informative and serious. After I finish pouting, sucking my
thumb and extracting the glues......which glue would you like me to
send?
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| Subject: | Re: Graphics body wrap! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
Hey Folks,
Installing some cut vinyl graphics is a lot different
from the overall body wraps used on vehicles which
typically covers most everything.
Flutter is insidious, can occur at any speed, and can
occur on any surface including the fuselage. I saw a
comment about the flaperons being the only balanced
surface. The wings, the horiz & vert stab as well as
rudder & elevator are all surfaces that can
experience flutter.
If you can peel a body wrap off a vehicle without
damaging paint then the graphics can peel off an
airfoil surface and create flutter. Lifting of
fabric off plywood wings killed a very experienced
homebuilder...
There's no problem using cut vinyl on most surfaces
but again I'd be very careful trying to cover the
entire aircraft with a wrap.
Regards,
Ted
--- Original Message ---
From: "Brian Rodgers" <brodg@texas.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
>Yep, and no 'flutter' issues ! ;o)
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| Subject: | Re: Graphics body wrap! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
I think sticks ons are pretty safe.
The Adhesives nowadays are prolly stronger that the poly fobre glues in
some cases.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Hey Folks,
>
> Installing some cut vinyl graphics is a lot different
> from the overall body wraps used on vehicles which
> typically covers most everything.
>
> Flutter is insidious, can occur at any speed, and can
> occur on any surface including the fuselage. I saw a
> comment about the flaperons being the only balanced
> surface. The wings, the horiz & vert stab as well as
> rudder & elevator are all surfaces that can
> experience flutter.
>
> If you can peel a body wrap off a vehicle without
> damaging paint then the graphics can peel off an
> airfoil surface and create flutter. Lifting of
> fabric off plywood wings killed a very experienced
> homebuilder...
>
> There's no problem using cut vinyl on most surfaces
> but again I'd be very careful trying to cover the
> entire aircraft with a wrap.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ted
>
> --- Original Message ---
> From: "Brian Rodgers" <brodg@texas.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
>
>>Yep, and no 'flutter' issues ! ;o)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | right seat brakes |
I am looking into the expense of adding brake pedals to the right seat
of my model 2. Is anybody parting out and able to sell me the hardware?
Does anybody have a link to a supplier who handles this? I have not
called Matco direct because I have not figured out the correct way to
attach the cylinders if I had them. Left seat master cylinders attach to
the rod with a welded attachment point protruding forward off the rod.
This would not be possible on the left brake in the right seat because
the rod for the other pedal runs through that space. How is that
overcome? Can somebody send me a picture of right seat brake pedals?
Thanks.
Jeffrey R. Dill, model 2, 582
(860) 295-8372 home
(860) 985-4315 cell
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| Subject: | Re: Carb sockets |
Got carb sockets from JBM for my 912. Appear to be better quality and less than
half the price that Rotax is asking. Also, found the people at JBM to be very
customer orientated.
Jimmie
HMDOUD <hdoud@satx.rr.com> wrote:
I sent the information below to the list yesterday as a matter of information,
but it didn't make it through. Possibly the pictures included in the
message, caused the email to be stripped.
Below, find the yesterday's information, without color and photographs.
**************************************
Here's something of interest to all listers.........Rex Shaw, all the way from
Australia. one of our Listers, sent me this information concerning an improved
product for the limited life Rotax rubber and always cracking, carb sockets.
Competition always provides the way.
Maybe this info has been in prior emails, if so I haven't seen it. Ordering
mine today.
I hope the pictures and all of the JBM information comes through OK.
Herb
***********************************
JBM Industries manufactures carburetor sockets for Rotax Aircraft Engines in high
quality material.
If you are interested in a vastly improved part for your engine that is made
in the USA, and at a special low introductory price, this notice is for you.
Here is information on our Rotax carburetor sockets:
These 2 cycle sockets fit BING 54 carburetors that are used on currently manufactured
ROTAX engines used on ultralight & experimental aircraft:
JBM makes three types of Carburetor Sockets: Prices good thru August
2006
867-484 for Rotax 503 and 447 engines $21 each $31.50 list price
867-696 for Rotax 582 & 618 engines $24 each $36.00
Shipping & Handling by USPS is $4.95 for up to one pound in USA and Canada.
These sockets have the mechanical locking rib that prevents carbs from being
"thrown" .
Same durometer as original.
Sockets are stamped JBM. They cannot be confused with original. Ask for JBM
sockets
This is our own proprietary rubber compound. They withstand oil, gasoline,
ozone and weather and can be run at temperatures of F. 300 They will last up
to 10 years in normal use. They require no grease or solvents to be smeared on
them.
JBM sockets have no shelf life and can be stored for years in a plastic bag.
JBM Guarantees your satisfaction. ( Will your parts supplier? )
The value isn't in the price, but in the performance and the longevity.
Remember that JBM Sockets are NOT made by ROTAX, and you cannot get them
from ROTAX dealers and repair stations that only sell ROTAX parts.
Buy direct from the manufacturer and SAVE! MADE IN USA Save this notice as
you will want these in the future!
( Flange mount sockets are sold out & only available on a periodic basis as
production is limited.)
To order:
E-mail Jbmindustries@aol.com ......... Include "Carb Socket" in subject line.
If you use Visa or MasterCard please include: Number, Expiration, and the last
3 digits of the code in the signature area.
Be sure you have a mailing address that we can ship to, as we will use Priority
Mail. JBM ships worldwide.
JBM Industries .................... VISA and MasterCard
3761 Morley Dr.
Kent, Ohio 44240 USA Jbmindustries@aol.com 330-678-9537
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| Subject: | Re: right seat brakes |
Call Matco, I think the guys name is George there. He is a Avid
and/or Kitfox owner or ex-owner and knows what to do.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Dill Family
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:47 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: right seat brakes
I am looking into the expense of adding brake pedals to the right seat
of my model 2. Is anybody parting out and able to sell me the hardware?
Does anybody have a link to a supplier who handles this? I have not
called Matco direct because I have not figured out the correct way to
attach the cylinders if I had them. Left seat master cylinders attach to
the rod with a welded attachment point protruding forward off the rod.
This would not be possible on the left brake in the right seat because
the rod for the other pedal runs through that space. How is that
overcome? Can somebody send me a picture of right seat brake pedals?
Thanks.
Jeffrey R. Dill, model 2, 582
(860) 295-8372 home
(860) 985-4315 cell
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| Subject: | Re: Student InsuranceStudent InsuranceStudent InsuranceStudent |
I
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bernhard10" <tiloxy@gmail.com>
I also tried with Falcon ( trough EAA) but was denied by all carriers but one who
wanted some more info to write a quote.
Who is the carrier who insures you??
The guy at Falcon told me generally they get their student insurance only from
AIG ( if they get one at all). In my case AIG also denied. I have a KF IV taildragger
my instructor has 1200 hours taildragger time and 5 hours on a Kitfox.
Now the one company who might be able to insure me want $ 3,700 if they do it at
all ! and my instructor has to have 15 hour solo on the Kitfox until they will
do it. And I need to have 35 hour before I can solo. Insane !
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64663#64663
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| Subject: | Graphics body wrap! |
Hey Gang,
I agree with Dave. The glues used on the tape are quite good.
I have a large vinyl cut graphic of a girl in a bikini on an island
(really!) on the tail of my Lake amphibian now for 10 + years with no signs
of peeling. And the prop blast is only 3 or 4 feet from it (being that it
is a pusher), as well as the huge amount of water spray it endures. Also,
a
friend of mine has an Avid Flyer that has vinyl graphics (large ones) on
the
fuselage, tail, and wings. It has been probably 5 years and 300 hours of
flying conditions (winter, summer, spring, and fall - skis, wheels, floats)
with no problem. Another friend has done three (going on four now) Just
aircraft co. Highlanders, each of them having large graphics on the
fuselage
and the floats. No problem there either, and we flew two of them from
Wisconsin to Florida and back, along with a couple 1,000 mile trips thrown
in. I also have a set of fibreglass floats with graphics on them that are
at least 5 yrs of heavy water use, and left outside. No problems with that
either. Granted, fibreglass and metal are different than fabric. But from
what I can tell the fabric holds the stripes just as well.
I personally think if you make sure a professional tape stripe installer
does the work it will stay on without issue.
Here's a pic of what the graphic on the tail looks like today (with a bonus
picture for all of you guys that don't understand why I like seaplanes so
much.....) <GRIN>
Paul Seehafer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
I think sticks ons are pretty safe.
The Adhesives nowadays are prolly stronger that the poly fobre glues in
some cases.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Graphics body wrap! |
On Sep 29, 2006, at 7:59 PM, Paul Seehafer wrote:
> I agree with Dave. The glues used on the tape are quite good.
Here is a photo of my sailboat taken three years ago. The decal had
been there for 8 years and was as fresh as the first day. The gelcoat
on the hull, on the other hand, was 16 years old and, as you can see,
quite faded away. Red pigments are the first to fade in the UV light of
the sun.
Today, the decal is gone because I have rub down the hull to a nicer
shade of red. But I am pretty sure it would still be as fresh today,
even if it's in the worst element: a few feet from sea water and
exposed to the sunlight 365 days per year.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Graphics body wrap! |
I am dumping the wheels and making mine a sea plane!!
Jimmie
Paul Seehafer <av8rps@tznet.com> wrote:
Hey Gang,
I agree with Dave. The glues used on the tape are quite good.
I have a large vinyl cut graphic of a girl in a bikini on an island
(really!) on the tail of my Lake amphibian now for 10 + years with no signs
of peeling. And the prop blast is only 3 or 4 feet from it (being that it
is a pusher), as well as the huge amount of water spray it endures. Also,
a
friend of mine has an Avid Flyer that has vinyl graphics (large ones) on
the
fuselage, tail, and wings. It has been probably 5 years and 300 hours of
flying conditions (winter, summer, spring, and fall - skis, wheels, floats)
with no problem. Another friend has done three (going on four now) Just
aircraft co. Highlanders, each of them having large graphics on the
fuselage
and the floats. No problem there either, and we flew two of them from
Wisconsin to Florida and back, along with a couple 1,000 mile trips thrown
in. I also have a set of fibreglass floats with graphics on them that are
at least 5 yrs of heavy water use, and left outside. No problems with that
either. Granted, fibreglass and metal are different than fabric. But from
what I can tell the fabric holds the stripes just as well.
I personally think if you make sure a professional tape stripe installer
does the work it will stay on without issue.
Here's a pic of what the graphic on the tail looks like today (with a bonus
picture for all of you guys that don't understand why I like seaplanes so
much.....)
Paul Seehafer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave"
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave"
I think sticks ons are pretty safe.
The Adhesives nowadays are prolly stronger that the poly fobre glues in
some cases.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Undercarriage - Bungee nico press |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jakelewis" <jakelewis22@yahoo.com>
A few post back someone suggested using safety wire to tie the bungee cords. Here is a web link for a cool tool for making a very clean clamp out of safety wire www.clamptitetools.com Have a look
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64698#64698
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
I love it! grin
Hey, all that being said, I've always wanted to put some nose art on my S5.
So can anybody supply me with a good source for vinyl graphics. Up here in
NE Michigan anything more than milk and bread and second hand shoes can be
difficult to find. Online is fine, but I'd like to have a producer that has
a good rep. with product and customer service so I don't end up with a big
problem.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:59 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
> Hey Gang,
>
>
> I agree with Dave. The glues used on the tape are quite good.
>
> I have a large vinyl cut graphic of a girl in a bikini on an island
> (really!) on the tail of my Lake amphibian now for 10 + years with no
signs
> of peeling. And the prop blast is only 3 or 4 feet from it (being that
it
> is a pusher), as well as the huge amount of water spray it endures.
Also,
> a
> friend of mine has an Avid Flyer that has vinyl graphics (large ones) on
> the
> fuselage, tail, and wings. It has been probably 5 years and 300 hours of
> flying conditions (winter, summer, spring, and fall - skis, wheels,
floats)
> with no problem. Another friend has done three (going on four now) Just
> aircraft co. Highlanders, each of them having large graphics on the
> fuselage
> and the floats. No problem there either, and we flew two of them from
> Wisconsin to Florida and back, along with a couple 1,000 mile trips
thrown
> in. I also have a set of fibreglass floats with graphics on them that
are
> at least 5 yrs of heavy water use, and left outside. No problems with
that
> either. Granted, fibreglass and metal are different than fabric. But
from
> what I can tell the fabric holds the stripes just as well.
>
> I personally think if you make sure a professional tape stripe installer
> does the work it will stay on without issue.
>
> Here's a pic of what the graphic on the tail looks like today (with a
bonus
> picture for all of you guys that don't understand why I like seaplanes so
> much.....) <GRIN>
>
> Paul Seehafer
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
>
> I think sticks ons are pretty safe.
>
> The Adhesives nowadays are prolly stronger that the poly fobre glues in
> some cases.
>
>
> Dave
>
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| Subject: | Undercarriage - Bungee nico press |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
I bought one of those on ebay recently. I got the cheapest one at about $20
including shipping. Retail it goes from $25-30 plus ship. Works pretty
well, but takes a bit of practice. An old lady at Oshkosh demoed it for me.
She made it look like child's play, but then again she probably invented the
thing.
Definitely worth taking up some space in your tool drawer.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "jakelewis" <jakelewis22@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Undercarriage - Bungee nico press
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jakelewis" <jakelewis22@yahoo.com>
>
> A few post back someone suggested using safety wire to tie the bungee
cords. Here is a web link for a cool tool for making a very clean clamp out
of safety wire www.clamptitetools.com Have a look
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64698#64698
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 5 1400 Gross Weight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dave and Diane <ddsyverson@comcast.net>
Layne,
There are at least two things that make the 1550 gross that I am aware of. 1)
The thickness of the spar tubes. (0.065" for the 1550 vs 0.058" for the
lighter spar tubes.) 2) The bolts which fasten fasten the lift strut brackets
to lift struts - for the 1550 they are NAS standard which is distinguished by
a dished top on the bolt head - if the bolt heads are not dished - they are
not NAS. There may be other differences - I AM NOT SURE ABOUT OTHER
DIFFERENCES. I would go completely through the paperwork for the airplane and
try to figure out what spec this bird was designed to. Another deal you could
work is check the list archives - this subject has been up before.
Another point - if the aircraft was registered as 1400 - that is your legal
limit, unless it is amended.
If in doubt, you already know what to do.
Sincerely,
Dave S
St Paul, MN
M-7 nose dragger
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On Friday 29 September 2006 1:25 am, debrun26@juno.com wrote:
> I just bought a KF5 with a gross of 1400lbs. It was built in 1998 and I
> understand many other series 5's have a gross of 1550 lbs. Is there any
> structural difference between the two? Is there a way I could have mine
> bumped up to 1550 lbs? Layne
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
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A friend of mine is looking for a Kitfox Model II or kitffox lite cowling
to install on a Kitten. Does anybody have one or does the new KITFOX inc
make it ?
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| Subject: | Re: Undercarriage - Bungee nico press |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
On Sep 29, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Fox5flyer wrote:
> She made it look like child's play, but then again she probably
> invented the
> thing.
If so, she was certainly a sailor's wife because this little clever
tool is an adaptation of the serving mallet that has been used to twine
marline on ropes for centuries.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Carb sockets |
Shane,
I just got some sockets from JBM for my 912 about a week ago.
Eric
----- Original Message -----
From: Shane Sather
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Carb sockets
Let us know when you have some for the 912s. I would like to order a
few.
Thanks for the info
Shane
----- Original Message -----
From: HMDOUD
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 7:09 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Carb sockets
I sent the information below to the list yesterday as a matter of
information, but it didn't make it through. Possibly the pictures
included in the message, caused the email to be stripped.
Below, find the yesterday's information, without color and
photographs.
**************************************
Here's something of interest to all listers.........Rex Shaw, all
the way from Australia. one of our Listers, sent me this information
concerning an improved product for the limited life Rotax rubber and
always cracking, carb sockets. Competition always provides the way.
Maybe this info has been in prior emails, if so I haven't seen it.
Ordering mine today.
I hope the pictures and all of the JBM information comes through OK.
Herb
***********************************
JBM Industries manufactures carburetor sockets for Rotax Aircraft
Engines in high quality material.
If you are interested in a vastly improved part for your engine
that is made in the USA, and at a special low introductory price, this
notice is for you.
Here is information on our Rotax carburetor sockets:
These 2 cycle sockets fit BING 54 carburetors that are used on
currently manufactured ROTAX engines used on ultralight & experimental
aircraft:
JBM makes three types of Carburetor Sockets: Prices
good thru August 2006
867-484 for Rotax 503 and 447 engines $21 each $31.50
list price
867-696 for Rotax 582 & 618 engines $24 each $36.00
Shipping & Handling by USPS is $4.95 for up to one pound in USA and
Canada.
These sockets have the mechanical locking rib that prevents
carbs from being "thrown" .
Same durometer as original.
Sockets are stamped JBM. They cannot be confused with original.
Ask for JBM sockets
This is our own proprietary rubber compound. They withstand
oil, gasoline, ozone and weather and can be run at temperatures of F.
300 They will last up to 10 years in normal use. They require no grease
or solvents to be smeared on them.
JBM sockets have no shelf life and can be stored for years in a
plastic bag.
JBM Guarantees your satisfaction. ( Will your parts supplier?
)
The value isn't in the price, but in the performance and the
longevity.
Remember that JBM Sockets are NOT made by ROTAX, and you
cannot get them from ROTAX dealers and repair stations that only sell
ROTAX parts.
Buy direct from the manufacturer and SAVE! MADE IN USA Save
this notice as you will want these in the future!
( Flange mount sockets are sold out & only available on a
periodic basis as production is limited.)
To order:
E-mail Jbmindustries@aol.com ......... Include "Carb Socket" in
subject line.
If you use Visa or MasterCard please include: Number, Expiration,
and the last 3 digits of the code in the signature area.
Be sure you have a mailing address that we can ship to, as we will
use Priority Mail. JBM ships worldwide.
JBM Industries .................... VISA and MasterCard
3761 Morley Dr.
Kent, Ohio 44240 USA Jbmindustries@aol.com 330-678-9537
=B7~?=B2,=03g-=D3=D3
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| Subject: | Re: vinyl graphics |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
Hi Deke, I have replaced the ignition system and now have the CDI packs set
aside. Do you still want them?. They are very heavy (probably around a
couple of kilo's}If your your interested let me know. Im working away so
will respond to emails when home next.
Regards
Graeme Toft
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 5:30 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: vinyl graphics
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
>
> I love it! grin
>
> Hey, all that being said, I've always wanted to put some nose art on my
> S5.
> So can anybody supply me with a good source for vinyl graphics. Up here
> in
> NE Michigan anything more than milk and bread and second hand shoes can be
> difficult to find. Online is fine, but I'd like to have a producer that
> has
> a good rep. with product and customer service so I don't end up with a big
> problem.
> Deke
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:59 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
>
>
>> Hey Gang,
>>
>>
>> I agree with Dave. The glues used on the tape are quite good.
>>
>> I have a large vinyl cut graphic of a girl in a bikini on an island
>> (really!) on the tail of my Lake amphibian now for 10 + years with no
> signs
>> of peeling. And the prop blast is only 3 or 4 feet from it (being that
> it
>> is a pusher), as well as the huge amount of water spray it endures.
> Also,
>> a
>> friend of mine has an Avid Flyer that has vinyl graphics (large ones) on
>> the
>> fuselage, tail, and wings. It has been probably 5 years and 300 hours
>> of
>> flying conditions (winter, summer, spring, and fall - skis, wheels,
> floats)
>> with no problem. Another friend has done three (going on four now) Just
>> aircraft co. Highlanders, each of them having large graphics on the
>> fuselage
>> and the floats. No problem there either, and we flew two of them from
>> Wisconsin to Florida and back, along with a couple 1,000 mile trips
> thrown
>> in. I also have a set of fibreglass floats with graphics on them that
> are
>> at least 5 yrs of heavy water use, and left outside. No problems with
> that
>> either. Granted, fibreglass and metal are different than fabric. But
> from
>> what I can tell the fabric holds the stripes just as well.
>>
>> I personally think if you make sure a professional tape stripe installer
>> does the work it will stay on without issue.
>>
>> Here's a pic of what the graphic on the tail looks like today (with a
> bonus
>> picture for all of you guys that don't understand why I like seaplanes
>> so
>> much.....) <GRIN>
>>
>> Paul Seehafer
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
>>
>>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
>>
>> I think sticks ons are pretty safe.
>>
>> The Adhesives nowadays are prolly stronger that the poly fobre glues in
>> some cases.
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Undercarriage - Bungee nico press |
so can I get some Bungee some place what size and how long for my mod 2 mal
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| Subject: | Thanks to Listers |
If you figure out how to get the drill into the crank scrap the engine
and
find a reallllly long extension cord ;-)
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of HMDOUD
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:06 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Thanks to Listers
I have had overwhelming response to my 3 (current) problems and many
thanks
to all.
1. To what I might do with the ruined 1 gallon milk jug with the side
torn
out and the scratched and bent piece of aluminum.......... Stuff it
where?
2. To how I might separate fingers stuck together with Super
Glue.........
Acetone didn't work. Threw up right after I drank it. and
......Put my
finger where?
3. To the problem of getting oil into the injector pump, the first
time
after installation. Best solution was to hook a drill onto the pump
shaft
and watch for oil coming outta the injector tubes in the intake
manifold.............Great idea!.........How do I get the drill into the
crankcase?
All in all, everything is finally coming together in all my latest
Kitfox
projects, using the Listers advice and solutions to serious problems.
And
from the tone of my emails........You all must know, that I'm a really
serious guy.
Regards...........Herb
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| Subject: | Test Gorilla glue |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Just make sure they are firmly glued around your favourite beer stein and
live with it for a few weeks.
Seriously try Acetone and next time wear butyrate gloves.
Noel
> Just as soon as someone can tell me how to unstick fingers glued
> together with Super Glue.
> =============
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| Subject: | More Flight Test Questions |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
I didn't get much response to my last data set, but I'll try again. I'd
like to get some comparisons with other Kitfox's. Today I started max gross
weight testing:
Take off roll in 15 knots at 1500' in 92 F: ~700-800'. (No flaps.)
Take off roll in 6 knots at 1500' in 80F: ~900'. (No flaps.)
Absolute ceiling: 10,670. (density altitude)
Cruise TAS: 81mph @ 5800 rpm (At 10,670' density altitude.)
Thanks. Tomorrow I start with rate of climb and descent testing.
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Graphics body wrap! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 11:43 AM 9/29/2006, you wrote:
>Here is a photo of my sailboat taken three years ago.
I like Paul's decal a lot better. Michel, maybe you could apply Santa's
helper...
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Graphics body wrap! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
At 10:59 AM 9/29/2006, you wrote:
>Here's a pic of what the graphic on the tail looks like today (with a bonus
>picture for all of you guys that don't understand why I like seaplanes so
>much.....) <GRIN>
They're your daughters, right? <GD&R>
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Kitfox 5 1400 Gross Weight |
First thing to check is the spar wall thickness. Give me a shout at
john@kitfoxaircraft.com <mailto:john@kitfoxaircraft.com>
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
debrun26@juno.com
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 12:25 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 5 1400 Gross Weight
I just bought a KF5 with a gross of 1400lbs. It was built in 1998 and I
understand many other series 5's have a gross of 1550 lbs. Is there any
structural difference between the two? Is there a way I could have mine
bumped up to 1550 lbs? Layne
________________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Graphics body wrap! |
Weight... for a full body wrap
I have a small plastic graphic installed on the tail of my plane for the
past two years... No cracks,rips or tears. Installing a full body wrap
on a
cloth plane could be fun though. The chemicals used to remove it may
not be
good to the dope system you are using let alone the cloth. Try a small
piece of the wrap material on a sample of cloth doped to a small frame
to
see how it applies and removes. While applying the graphic any small
bubbles can be taken care of with the judicious use of a small diameter
sewing needle.
Just for the Halibut, I'm including a small pic of my graphic and one of
it
on the plane.
BTW I'm so far down in the woods in Newfoundland I have to come out to
hunt.
I found a company that does auto graphics about an hour away. Companies
that do street banners or shop graphics should also be able to help you.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> David C. Watterson
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:43 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David C. Watterson"
> <dcw@dddirectories.com>
>
> I am considering having a custom graphics designed and installed on my
> Kitfox. The industry calls this a body wrap. Many vehicles
> can be seen with
> complete body wraps. It doesn't hurt the paint on an
> automobile and can be
> replaced as needed or removed. Can anyone think of a reason I
> should not do
> this or anyway this could possibly damage my plane or affect it's
> performance.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: vinyl graphics |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
Hi Graeme. Yup, I'll take 'em. What did you finally replace them with and
how is it working out?
Let me know what the shipping is and I'll send you some money. Did you want
anything for the module cores themselves?
Deke
ps: where you working and what do you do?
----- Original Message -----
From: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: vinyl graphics
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Hi Deke, I have replaced the ignition system and now have the CDI packs
set
> aside. Do you still want them?. They are very heavy (probably around a
> couple of kilo's}If your your interested let me know. Im working away so
> will respond to emails when home next.
> Regards
> Graeme Toft
>
> Do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 5:30 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: vinyl graphics
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
> >
> > I love it! grin
> >
> > Hey, all that being said, I've always wanted to put some nose art on my
> > S5.
> > So can anybody supply me with a good source for vinyl graphics. Up here
> > in
> > NE Michigan anything more than milk and bread and second hand shoes can
be
> > difficult to find. Online is fine, but I'd like to have a producer that
> > has
> > a good rep. with product and customer service so I don't end up with a
big
> > problem.
> > Deke
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:59 PM
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
> >
> >
> >> Hey Gang,
> >>
> >>
> >> I agree with Dave. The glues used on the tape are quite good.
> >>
> >> I have a large vinyl cut graphic of a girl in a bikini on an island
> >> (really!) on the tail of my Lake amphibian now for 10 + years with no
> > signs
> >> of peeling. And the prop blast is only 3 or 4 feet from it (being
that
> > it
> >> is a pusher), as well as the huge amount of water spray it endures.
> > Also,
> >> a
> >> friend of mine has an Avid Flyer that has vinyl graphics (large ones)
on
> >> the
> >> fuselage, tail, and wings. It has been probably 5 years and 300 hours
> >> of
> >> flying conditions (winter, summer, spring, and fall - skis, wheels,
> > floats)
> >> with no problem. Another friend has done three (going on four now)
Just
> >> aircraft co. Highlanders, each of them having large graphics on the
> >> fuselage
> >> and the floats. No problem there either, and we flew two of them from
> >> Wisconsin to Florida and back, along with a couple 1,000 mile trips
> > thrown
> >> in. I also have a set of fibreglass floats with graphics on them that
> > are
> >> at least 5 yrs of heavy water use, and left outside. No problems with
> > that
> >> either. Granted, fibreglass and metal are different than fabric. But
> > from
> >> what I can tell the fabric holds the stripes just as well.
> >>
> >> I personally think if you make sure a professional tape stripe
installer
> >> does the work it will stay on without issue.
> >>
> >> Here's a pic of what the graphic on the tail looks like today (with a
> > bonus
> >> picture for all of you guys that don't understand why I like seaplanes
> >> so
> >> much.....) <GRIN>
> >>
> >> Paul Seehafer
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
> >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:05 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
> >>
> >>
> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
> >>
> >> I think sticks ons are pretty safe.
> >>
> >> The Adhesives nowadays are prolly stronger that the poly fobre glues
in
> >> some cases.
> >>
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Graphics body wrap! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Hey Paul!
How come you didn't say your Lake came with hot running women??? Now the
important question does your 'Fox get the same attention???
Now I'm convinced I'm doing something wrong!
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Paul Seehafer
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 3:29 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
>
>
> Hey Gang,
>
>
> I agree with Dave. The glues used on the tape are quite good.
>
> I have a large vinyl cut graphic of a girl in a bikini on an island
> (really!) on the tail of my Lake amphibian now for 10 +
> years with no signs
> of peeling. And the prop blast is only 3 or 4 feet from it
> (being that it
> is a pusher), as well as the huge amount of water spray it
> endures. Also,
> a
> friend of mine has an Avid Flyer that has vinyl graphics
> (large ones) on
> the
> fuselage, tail, and wings. It has been probably 5 years and
> 300 hours of
> flying conditions (winter, summer, spring, and fall - skis,
> wheels, floats)
> with no problem. Another friend has done three (going on
> four now) Just
> aircraft co. Highlanders, each of them having large graphics on the
> fuselage
> and the floats. No problem there either, and we flew two of
> them from
> Wisconsin to Florida and back, along with a couple 1,000
> mile trips thrown
> in. I also have a set of fibreglass floats with graphics on
> them that are
> at least 5 yrs of heavy water use, and left outside. No
> problems with that
> either. Granted, fibreglass and metal are different than
> fabric. But from
> what I can tell the fabric holds the stripes just as well.
>
> I personally think if you make sure a professional tape
> stripe installer
> does the work it will stay on without issue.
>
> Here's a pic of what the graphic on the tail looks like
> today (with a bonus
> picture for all of you guys that don't understand why I like
> seaplanes so
> much.....) <GRIN>
>
> Paul Seehafer
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
>
> I think sticks ons are pretty safe.
>
> The Adhesives nowadays are prolly stronger that the poly
> fobre glues in
> some cases.
>
>
> Dave
>
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| Subject: | Re: Undercarriage - Bungee nico press |
Malcolm, just buy some 3/8 inch milspec bungie from aircraft spruce and
use .032 safety wire to make your loops. Maybe somebody on the list can
provide you with the total finished length including the loops. I used
some large shrink tubing to cover the safety wire, but if I were to do
it again I'd leave it off so it would be easy to inspect the loops for
any sign of loosening. I made a new set each year for four years, cost
was minimal, and no problems.
If you don't want to go that route, I think John McBean can probably
supply you with a ready made set.
Good luck.
Deke
so can I get some Bungee some place what size and how long for my mod
2 mal
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| Subject: | Re: vinyl graphics |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
Oops, sorry. Supposed to go offlist.
D
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: vinyl graphics
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
>
> Hi Graeme. Yup, I'll take 'em. What did you finally replace them with
and
> how is it working out?
> Let me know what the shipping is and I'll send you some money. Did you
want
> anything for the module cores themselves?
> Deke
> ps: where you working and what do you do?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 6:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: vinyl graphics
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
> >
> > Hi Deke, I have replaced the ignition system and now have the CDI packs
> set
> > aside. Do you still want them?. They are very heavy (probably around a
> > couple of kilo's}If your your interested let me know. Im working away so
> > will respond to emails when home next.
> > Regards
> > Graeme Toft
> >
> > Do not archive
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 5:30 AM
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: vinyl graphics
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
> > >
> > > I love it! grin
> > >
> > > Hey, all that being said, I've always wanted to put some nose art on
my
> > > S5.
> > > So can anybody supply me with a good source for vinyl graphics. Up
here
> > > in
> > > NE Michigan anything more than milk and bread and second hand shoes
can
> be
> > > difficult to find. Online is fine, but I'd like to have a producer
that
> > > has
> > > a good rep. with product and customer service so I don't end up with a
> big
> > > problem.
> > > Deke
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
> > > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:59 PM
> > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hey Gang,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I agree with Dave. The glues used on the tape are quite good.
> > >>
> > >> I have a large vinyl cut graphic of a girl in a bikini on an island
> > >> (really!) on the tail of my Lake amphibian now for 10 + years with
no
> > > signs
> > >> of peeling. And the prop blast is only 3 or 4 feet from it (being
> that
> > > it
> > >> is a pusher), as well as the huge amount of water spray it endures.
> > > Also,
> > >> a
> > >> friend of mine has an Avid Flyer that has vinyl graphics (large
ones)
> on
> > >> the
> > >> fuselage, tail, and wings. It has been probably 5 years and 300
hours
> > >> of
> > >> flying conditions (winter, summer, spring, and fall - skis, wheels,
> > > floats)
> > >> with no problem. Another friend has done three (going on four now)
> Just
> > >> aircraft co. Highlanders, each of them having large graphics on the
> > >> fuselage
> > >> and the floats. No problem there either, and we flew two of them
from
> > >> Wisconsin to Florida and back, along with a couple 1,000 mile trips
> > > thrown
> > >> in. I also have a set of fibreglass floats with graphics on them
that
> > > are
> > >> at least 5 yrs of heavy water use, and left outside. No problems
with
> > > that
> > >> either. Granted, fibreglass and metal are different than fabric.
But
> > > from
> > >> what I can tell the fabric holds the stripes just as well.
> > >>
> > >> I personally think if you make sure a professional tape stripe
> installer
> > >> does the work it will stay on without issue.
> > >>
> > >> Here's a pic of what the graphic on the tail looks like today (with
a
> > > bonus
> > >> picture for all of you guys that don't understand why I like
seaplanes
> > >> so
> > >> much.....) <GRIN>
> > >>
> > >> Paul Seehafer
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
> > >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > >> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:05 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Graphics body wrap!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
> > >>
> > >> I think sticks ons are pretty safe.
> > >>
> > >> The Adhesives nowadays are prolly stronger that the poly fobre
glues
> in
> > >> some cases.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Undercarriage - Bungee nico press |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "mic thiessen" <wannaflyfox4@hotmail.com>
I bought one at Arlington last year and use it every where possible. It will
replace any hose clamp as long as you use the stailless steel wire...it
won't rust...have used it around the farm and used coat hanger wire for some
big applications...never had a failure yet
mic
>From: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Undercarriage - Bungee nico press
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:21:55 -0400
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
>
>I bought one of those on ebay recently. I got the cheapest one at about
>$20
>including shipping. Retail it goes from $25-30 plus ship. Works pretty
>well, but takes a bit of practice. An old lady at Oshkosh demoed it for
>me.
>She made it look like child's play, but then again she probably invented
>the
>thing.
>Definitely worth taking up some space in your tool drawer.
>Deke
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "jakelewis" <jakelewis22@yahoo.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 3:20 PM
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Undercarriage - Bungee nico press
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jakelewis" <jakelewis22@yahoo.com>
> >
> > A few post back someone suggested using safety wire to tie the bungee
>cords. Here is a web link for a cool tool for making a very clean clamp
>out
>of safety wire www.clamptitetools.com Have a look
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64698#64698
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
_________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: More Flight Test Questions |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
Guy,
Those number seem a bit long , what is your empty weight ?
on wheels solo i off in under 200 feet
dual about 250 to 300 on hot days.
I will do some tests in next week or so if wx permits.
Dave 582
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Buchanan" <bnn@nethere.com>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:52 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: More Flight Test Questions
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
>
> I didn't get much response to my last data set, but I'll try again. I'd
> like to get some comparisons with other Kitfox's. Today I started max
> gross weight testing:
>
> Take off roll in 15 knots at 1500' in 92 F: ~700-800'. (No flaps.)
> Take off roll in 6 knots at 1500' in 80F: ~900'. (No flaps.)
>
> Absolute ceiling: 10,670. (density altitude)
>
> Cruise TAS: 81mph @ 5800 rpm (At 10,670' density altitude.)
>
> Thanks. Tomorrow I start with rate of climb and descent testing.
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
>
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Yes we can make cowlings. and many, many other Kitfox parts :-)
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kirk hull
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 3:01 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: model II cowl
A friend of mine is looking for a Kitfox Model II or kitffox lite cowling
to install on a Kitten. Does anybody have one or does the new KITFOX inc
make it ?
Message 38
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| Subject: | Re: model II cowl |
Its so great to have a KITFOX company that cares about us with our old
foxes .
Thanks John and Debra we can keep our birds flying .
Fly safe fly low fly slow
John Perry
Kitfox 2 N718PD
582/ subbie
Gsc / Ivo inflight
TD/ Straight floats
----- Original Message -----
From: jdmcbean
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 11:31 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: model II cowl
Yes we can make cowlings. and many, many other Kitfox parts J
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kirk hull
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 3:01 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: model II cowl
A friend of mine is looking for a Kitfox Model II or kitffox lite
cowling to install on a Kitten. Does anybody have one or does the new
KITFOX inc make it ?
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