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4. 05:08 AM - Re: Trailer. (Fox5flyer)
5. 06:09 AM - Re: Trailer. (Don Smythe)
6. 06:15 AM - Re: Re: FAA aircraft chart for download (john perry)
7. 07:20 AM - Re: FAA aircraft chart for download (84KF)
8. 07:49 AM - Re: Engine Heater (Stan Bearup)
9. 08:06 AM - Re: Re: FAA aircraft chart for download (Lowell Fitt)
10. 09:15 AM - Re: Re: FAA aircraft chart for download (Guy Buchanan)
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Subject: | Re: FAA aircraft chart for download |
Steve sez:
> The chart is showing that the potential, or certificated, maximum weight
> of the aircraft is not a disqualification, and confirms that the words
> maximum takeoff weight, as used in the 1.1 definition is the sum of
> conditions that include .the empty weight of the aircraft, the weight of the
> total fuel capacity, and the weight of the pilot , and passenger if applicable,
> and whatever baggage you intend to carry in the aircraft.
Steve, you have repeatedly asked responders for references to the FARs in contesting
your notions. I have wasted a considerable amount of my time trying to
substantiate this nonsense. FAR 1.1 says, in part:
"Light-sport aircraft means an aircraft, other than a helicopter or powered-lift
that, since its original certification, has continued to meet the following:
(1) A maximum takeoff weight of not more than-- ...
(ii) 1,320 pounds (600 kilograms) for aircraft not intended for operation on water;..."
Apparently, your confusion comes from the phrase "maximum takeoff weight." Your
challenge is to produce the FAR that defines maximum takeoff weight. The previous
references you have provided are NOT found in the FARs, they are part of
the COMMENTARY the FAA provided in response to public COMMENT on the proposed
light-sport ruling. Show us the FAR that DEFINES the phrase "maximum takeoff
weight." I was unable to locate such a definition. There is a definition for
"maximum certificated takeoff weight" in 14 CFR Ch. II, ss294.1, (f), but it
does not support your claim: "Maximum certificated takeoff weight means the
maximum takeoff weight authorized by the terms of the aircraft airworthiness certificate.
This weight may be found in the airplane operating record or in the
airplane flight manual that is incorporated by regulation into the airworthiness
certificate."
I am not an attorney, nor do I play one on television, but I would not be surprised
if you incurred some liability if someone acts on your interpretation of
the light-sport regulations and is subsequently sanctioned by the FAA.
Geez, here I am ignoring my own advice to just let this topic die. :-p
Mike G.
N728KF
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Subject: | [OFF TOPIC] Wiki... |
On Nov 11, 2006, at 7:12 AM, Matt Dralle wrote:
> I added a new Wiki web site to the Matronics Email List features
> earlier this year.
Thank you very much, Matt. I love the concept of the Wiki. I had a look
at the Matronics/Kitfox place and found only a question from Doug.
Because this is the place where all important information about the
Kitfox should be, I decided to start writing a few lines about the
history of the Kitfox. To show how it works, I also added a link from
the word "taildragger" to a definition of it.
I would like to ask my friends of this list to visit the site and add
whatever they find relevant. Remember that you can edit anything that
is there and, please, edit my modest dbut. Also remember that is the
world wide web in its best form: you link words to other places. Wiki
allows you to link internally (to another place where you find already
a definition, or where you add your own complementary definition, or to
an external link.
Please put this link in your Favorites:
http://www.matronics.com/wiki/index.php/Kitfox
... and contribute for the benefit of everyone.
Cheers,
Michel
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Subject: | Re: FAA aircraft chart for download |
Federal Register Information
Federal Register: July 27, 2004 (Volume 69, Number 143)
Page 44771-44882
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
Federal Aviation Administration
14 CFR Parts 1, 21, 43, 45, 61, 65, and 91
[Docket No. FAA-2001-11133; Amendment No. 1-53, 21-85, 43-99, 45-24, 61-110,
65-45, 91-282
RIN 2120-AH19
Exact quote, pg.44793, cut and pasted here...
"Paragraph (1) Maximum Certificated
Takeoff Weight
Some commenters stated that lacking
a definition of maximum takeoff weight,
aircraft with fairly high performance
characteristics could meet the definition
of light-sport aircraft by limiting the
approved weight and payload of the
airplane. The FAA considers this a valid
concern and has provided some
additional constraints on the weight as
detailed below. The maximum weight of
a light-sport aircraft is the sum of:
(1) Aircraft empty weight;
(2) Weight of the passenger for each
seat installed;
(3) Baggage allowance for each
passenger; and
(4) Full fuel, including a minimum of
the half-hour fuel reserve required for
day visual flight rules in 91.151(a)(1)"
+ chart @ 44793
..
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Steve: Former Fi-156 'Storch' driver (...talk about folding wings!!!)
New owner, not builder- Kitfox V / 912UL / Warp Dr 3 blade. Thanks to the late
great Ray Mudge, Brighton Mi.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=73847#73847
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Graeme, there have been many very nice trailers built and owned by the
Kitfox Listers. I'm sure you'll get several replies. You might take a
look at the link below for a few that can give you ideas. These are on
our Kitfox Photo Archive that is on the www.sportflight.com site that is
maintained by Don Pearsall, the co-administrator for the Kitfox List.
Please feel free to browse around through all of the categories.
Not having owned or built one I can't give much advice other than to
avoid stiff springs. Try to modify the suspension so that it is
suitable for the weight of your aircraft so that it gets the smoothest
ride possible to avoid damage to the aircraft. Some people have fuel
tanks installed on the trailer to offload fuel prior to mounting the
aircraft. Modified boat trailers are very popular. You might also do a
Google search for "Kitfox trailer" that should bring up some hits.
http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=main&category=T
railers/Towing
Good Luck,
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: QSS
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 3:44 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Trailer.
Hi guys, I know this one has been thrown around the paddock many times
before but my situation is that I am able to get a trailer made at my
work site as our boiler makers are sitting around with nothing to do. I
have the steel and am ready to go but I do not have any plans or
dimentions for them to work off. Can anyone send me either specs or a
plan with dimentions that will allow us to get a start. Like many
others, I file information like this for safe keeping on my home
computer but as Im working away at the moment I don=92t have access to
the info. Any assistance would be great. Thanks guys.
Cheers
Graeme
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Jraeme,
Here are my personal thoughts on a Kitfox trailer. Trailer must
have:
1. dual axles to help bridge pot holes. (large tires for softer
ride)
2. light suspension to carry intended load without being too stiff.
3. elevated tail ramp that will support the tail end of the
fuselage and not the tail wheel. (keep weight off tail spring while
towing)
4. Consider designing independent suspension for the tail ramp
which is seperate from the main trailer. (softer ride)
5. imbeded fuel tank in trailer to support wing tank capacity
(12VDC fuel transfer pump for refueling)
6. Winch for loading.
Sorry, no plans just thoughts. There have been a couple cases of
damaged fuselage from trailering.
Don Smythe
.
Hi guys, I know this one has been thrown around the paddock many
times before but my situation is that I am able to get a trailer made at
my work site as our boiler makers are sitting around with nothing to do.
I have the steel and am ready to go but I do not have any plans or
dimentions for them to work off. Can anyone send me either specs or a
plan with dimentions that will allow us to get a start. Like many
others, I file information like this for safe keeping on my home
computer but as Im working away at the moment I don=92t have access to
the info. Any assistance would be great. Thanks guys.
Cheers
Graeme
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Subject: | Re: FAA aircraft chart for download |
And what this means is if the aircraft has a certified max takeoff weight of
1320 for land plane or 1430 for a floats planethen it can be flown as a
E-LSA, S-LSA, This goes for certified aircraft as well if they meet the MAX
Takeoff weight as provided by the manufacturer. if it is 1325 for a land
plane , or 1435 for a seaplane ,pounds Certified on the certificate then it
will not be able to be flown as a LSA aircraft period .
This cannot be construed any other way period .
Fly safe fly low fly slow fly fun fly KITFOX
John Perry
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Subject: | Re: FAA aircraft chart for download |
In the original proposal:
"Paragraph (1) Maximum Certificated
Takeoff Weight
Was changed to read
maximum takeoff weight
And you have been told why by the FAA.
Gentlemen, this post concerns the supporting chart. Do not avoid that issue
--------
Steve: Former Fi-156 'Storch' driver (...talk about folding wings!!!)
New owner, not builder- Kitfox V / 912UL / Warp Dr 3 blade. Thanks to the late
great Ray Mudge, Brighton Mi.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=73877#73877
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Subject: | Re: Engine Heater |
Check out the link below for the Northern Companion preheater. A very
effective and light weight engine preheat system designed by an Alaskan
bush pilot for the Alaskan environment.
Stan
http://www.myles-rec.com/Aviation%20Accessories/folder3/Northern%20Compan
ion/northerntindex.html
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Subject: | Re: FAA aircraft chart for download |
Mike, I frankly wish Steve would reread and act on one of his recent posts
when he said, (snip) "This is my last reply to any of the issues I
presented for comment and discussion".
Steve, enough!! If someone wants to proceed with this thread, please take
it off list.
The problem as I see it, when someone has totally destroyed his credibility
on any issue by continued unrelenting argument, it will likely effect his
credibility on most other Kitfox related issues he might care to comment on.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: <michaelgibbs@cox.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:57 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: FAA aircraft chart for download
>
> Steve sez:
>
>> The chart is showing that the potential, or certificated, maximum weight
>> of the aircraft is not a disqualification, and confirms that the words
>> maximum takeoff weight, as used in the 1.1 definition is the sum of
>> conditions that include .the empty weight of the aircraft, the weight of
>> the
>> total fuel capacity, and the weight of the pilot , and passenger if
>> applicable,
>> and whatever baggage you intend to carry in the aircraft.
>
> Steve, you have repeatedly asked responders for references to the FARs in
> contesting your notions. I have wasted a considerable amount of my time
> trying to substantiate this nonsense. FAR 1.1 says, in part:
>
> "Light-sport aircraft means an aircraft, other than a helicopter or
> powered-lift that, since its original certification, has continued to meet
> the following:
> (1) A maximum takeoff weight of not more than-- ...
> (ii) 1,320 pounds (600 kilograms) for aircraft not intended for operation
> on water;..."
>
> Apparently, your confusion comes from the phrase "maximum takeoff weight."
> Your challenge is to produce the FAR that defines maximum takeoff weight.
> The previous references you have provided are NOT found in the FARs, they
> are part of the COMMENTARY the FAA provided in response to public COMMENT
> on the proposed light-sport ruling. Show us the FAR that DEFINES the
> phrase "maximum takeoff weight." I was unable to locate such a
> definition. There is a definition for "maximum certificated takeoff
> weight" in 14 CFR Ch. II, ss294.1, (f), but it does not support your
> claim: "Maximum certificated takeoff weight means the maximum takeoff
> weight authorized by the terms of the aircraft airworthiness certificate.
> This weight may be found in the airplane operating record or in the
> airplane flight manual that is incorporated by regulation into the
> airworthiness certificate."
>
> I am not an attorney, nor do I play one on television, but I would not be
> surprised if you incurred some liability if someone acts on your
> interpretation of the light-sport regulations and is subsequently
> sanctioned by the FAA.
>
> Geez, here I am ignoring my own advice to just let this topic die. :-p
>
> Mike G.
> N728KF
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: FAA aircraft chart for download |
At 12:57 AM 11/12/2006, you wrote:
>Geez, here I am ignoring my own advice to just let this topic die.
Mike. I'm holding you personally responsible for all of Steve's subsequent
responses. ;-) (Thanks for the definition, though, it adds a little clarity.)
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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Subject: | Re: [OFF TOPIC] Wiki... |
At 01:28 AM 11/12/2006 Sunday, you wrote:
>
>On Nov 11, 2006, at 7:12 AM, Matt Dralle wrote:
>>I added a new Wiki web site to the Matronics Email List features earlier this
year.
>
>Thank you very much, Matt. I love the concept of the Wiki. I had a look at the
Matronics/Kitfox place and found only a question from Doug.
>Because this is the place where all important information about the Kitfox should
be, I decided to start writing a few lines about the history of the Kitfox.
To show how it works, I also added a link from the word "taildragger" to a definition
of it.
>
>I would like to ask my friends of this list to visit the site and add whatever
they find relevant. Remember that you can edit anything that is there and, please,
edit my modest dbut. Also remember that is the world wide web in its best
form: you link words to other places. Wiki allows you to link internally (to
another place where you find already a definition, or where you add your own
complementary definition, or to an external link.
>
>Please put this link in your Favorites:
>http://www.matronics.com/wiki/index.php/Kitfox
>
>... and contribute for the benefit of everyone.
>
>Cheers,
>Michel
You're very welcome. The Wiki is much like our Email List in that the usefulness
and utility is only as good as the content people add. The Wiki is very much
a community effort. Don't be afraid to add some of your own person content
or to politely edit others. Also, the Wiki fully supports the upload of pictures!
I encourage everyone to check out the Wiki and add some content!
Let's make the Kitfox section on the Matronics Wiki the definitive source for all
Kitfox information. I noticed the other day that the RV guys have really gone
to town on their section. I don't think the Kitfox guys can stand for that,
can they? :-)
Finally, since it is List Fund Raiser Season, I will throw in another shameless
plug for making a Contribution to support the Lists! It really is your 20 or
30 dollars that keeps this operation afloat. Please make a Contribution today.
Thank you in advance!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
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Subject: | [ Graeme Toft ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Graeme Toft <msm@byterocky.net>
Lists: Kitfox-List
Subject: First Flight After Rebuild
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/msm@byterocky.net.11.12.2006/index.html
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Thanks for the quick replies Guys, I had forgotten about the Sportflight
web site Deke so thanks for that. Jon, your trailer is simple and well
designed . I would appreciate your offer of measurements if you have
time. Good comments also Don. I realize the suspension will be a
critical consideration as G loading will be a real issue on our poorly
serviced roads.
Regards
Graeme Toft
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Smythe
Sent: Monday, 13 November 2006 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Trailer.
Jraeme,
Here are my personal thoughts on a Kitfox trailer. Trailer must
have:
1. dual axles to help bridge pot holes. (large tires for softer ride)
2. light suspension to carry intended load without being too stiff.
3. elevated tail ramp that will support the tail end of the fuselage
and not the tail wheel. (keep weight off tail spring while towing)
4. Consider designing independent suspension for the tail ramp which is
seperate from the main trailer. (softer ride)
5. imbeded fuel tank in trailer to support wing tank capacity (12VDC
fuel transfer pump for refueling)
6. Winch for loading.
Sorry, no plans just thoughts. There have been a couple cases of
damaged fuselage from trailering.
Don Smythe
.
Hi guys, I know this one has been thrown around the paddock many times
before but my situation is that I am able to get a trailer made at my
work site as our boiler makers are sitting around with nothing to do. I
have the steel and am ready to go but I do not have any plans or
dimentions for them to work off. Can anyone send me either specs or a
plan with dimentions that will allow us to get a start. Like many
others, I file information like this for safe keeping on my home
computer but as Im working away at the moment I don=92t have access to
the
info. Any assistance would be great. Thanks guys.
Cheers
Graeme
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Subject: | Re: FAA aircraft chart for download |
Thank you Lowell.
Floran H.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: FAA aircraft chart for download
>
> Mike, I frankly wish Steve would reread and act on one of his recent
> posts when he said, (snip) "This is my last reply to any of the issues I
> presented for comment and discussion".
>
> Steve, enough!! If someone wants to proceed with this thread, please take
> it off list.
>
> The problem as I see it, when someone has totally destroyed his
> credibility on any issue by continued unrelenting argument, it will likely
> effect his credibility on most other Kitfox related issues he might care
> to comment on.
>
> Lowell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <michaelgibbs@cox.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:57 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: FAA aircraft chart for download
>
>
>>
>> Steve sez:
>>
>>> The chart is showing that the potential, or certificated, maximum weight
>>> of the aircraft is not a disqualification, and confirms that the words
>>> maximum takeoff weight, as used in the 1.1 definition is the sum of
>>> conditions that include .the empty weight of the aircraft, the weight of
>>> the
>>> total fuel capacity, and the weight of the pilot , and passenger if
>>> applicable,
>>> and whatever baggage you intend to carry in the aircraft.
>>
>> Steve, you have repeatedly asked responders for references to the FARs in
>> contesting your notions. I have wasted a considerable amount of my time
>> trying to substantiate this nonsense. FAR 1.1 says, in part:
>>
>> "Light-sport aircraft means an aircraft, other than a helicopter or
>> powered-lift that, since its original certification, has continued to
>> meet the following:
>> (1) A maximum takeoff weight of not more than-- ...
>> (ii) 1,320 pounds (600 kilograms) for aircraft not intended for operation
>> on water;..."
>>
>> Apparently, your confusion comes from the phrase "maximum takeoff
>> weight." Your challenge is to produce the FAR that defines maximum
>> takeoff weight. The previous references you have provided are NOT found
>> in the FARs, they are part of the COMMENTARY the FAA provided in response
>> to public COMMENT on the proposed light-sport ruling. Show us the FAR
>> that DEFINES the phrase "maximum takeoff weight." I was unable to locate
>> such a definition. There is a definition for "maximum certificated
>> takeoff weight" in 14 CFR Ch. II, ss294.1, (f), but it does not support
>> your claim: "Maximum certificated takeoff weight means the maximum
>> takeoff weight authorized by the terms of the aircraft airworthiness
>> certificate. This weight may be found in the airplane operating record or
>> in the airplane flight manual that is incorporated by regulation into the
>> airworthiness certificate."
>>
>> I am not an attorney, nor do I play one on television, but I would not be
>> surprised if you incurred some liability if someone acts on your
>> interpretation of the light-sport regulations and is subsequently
>> sanctioned by the FAA.
>>
>> Geez, here I am ignoring my own advice to just let this topic die. :-p
>>
>> Mike G.
>> N728KF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
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Subject: | Re: FAA aircraft chart for download |
Kitfox-List Usage Guidelines
By:
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
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Using current information and guidelines is important on many issues it would seem.
Dont worry about hurt feelings, Sticks and stones will break my bones.etc etc.
steve
--------
Steve: Former Fi-156 'Storch' driver (...talk about folding wings!!!)
New owner, not builder- Kitfox V / 912UL / Warp Dr 3 blade. Thanks to the late
great Ray Mudge, Brighton Mi.
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Subject: | Re: Engine Heater |
Thank you Stan.
Deke
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----- Original Message -----
From: Stan Bearup
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Engine Heater
Check out the link below for the Northern Companion preheater. A very
effective and light weight engine preheat system designed by an Alaskan
bush pilot for the Alaskan environment.
Stan
http://www.myles-rec.com/Aviation%20Accessories/folder3/Northern%20Compan
ion/northerntindex.html
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Subject: | Re: [ Graeme Toft ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
Nice Fox Graeme!
Deke
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Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:40 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: [ Graeme Toft ] : New Email List Photo Share
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Subject: | Re: [ Graeme Toft ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
Very beautiful bird Graeme. I am very happy for you that you are flying
again .
Fly safe fly low fly slow fly fun fly Kitfox
John Perry
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Subject: | Re: FAA aircraft chart for download |
84KF wrote:
>
> There seems to be a lack of response to your question. This is due to the
common and contagious infliction known as Foot in Mouth disease, the result
of which is extreme embarrassment, and the sudden urge to avoid further inflammation
and discomfort from speaking out.
A couple of posts later:
84KF wrote:
>
> Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
> polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
> other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
> controversial issue.
>
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Subject: | Fire extinguisher Mount Location |
Mine is in a similar location but laterally in front of the passengers seat
so the pilot can reach it easier. There isn't too much room there for
passengers feet as my ELT is just to the right of the flap lever..
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Guy Buchanan
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 2:04 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fire extinguisher Mount Location
>
>
>
> At 01:00 PM 11/10/2006, you wrote:
> >Where have some of you mounted a fire extinguisher.
>
> Mine's sideways in front of the pilot's stick, mounted to the
> floorboard.
> It seemed the most out-of-the-way, yet handiest, spot.
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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Subject: | Re: FAA aircraft chart for download |
Ok.. Ya got me there. I humbly apoligize.
Is there nothing to be said about the FAA chart though?
That's the point of the original post on this topic.
I really would like to get some opinions on how you see it.
Steve
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Steve: Former Fi-156 'Storch' driver (...talk about folding wings!!!)
New owner, not builder- Kitfox V / 912UL / Warp Dr 3 blade. Thanks to the late
great Ray Mudge, Brighton Mi.
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To all the Kitfox flyers...
My kitfox is registered as a model III-A. The serial # is 736. I was going
through some of the paper work the other day and noticed the original order
was for a model II.
I am wondering where I can go to find out what has to be done to the plane
to increase the MTOW from 950 to 1050 safely. Transport Canada has agreed
to bump it up if I really want it. I would like to do that only if it is
safe.
The question is this: Is my plane actually a model 2 1/2??? It has the
separate engine mount and the wing tanks with the small header tank under
the panel. The wings are concave on the bottoms. At the time the plane was
originally sold as a kit the Rotax 912 engine was an option.
I've checked with John McBean and he is as much in the dark as I am on this
one..... I guess this one is extra unique.... I don't suppose Dan Denney is
still around??
Noel
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Thanks to the off list response of a nameless member I used a heat gun to
reshrink some loose fabric on my rudder. The cutting off of the old
fabric, patching, and painting would have in no way been a better repair
than simply waving the magic wand at the problem. After patching in fabric
on the fuselage I also used it to eliminate distant wrinkles that did not go
away when the new fabric was shrunk. I understand the need for
instructions, but sometimes a little common sense must prevail. Sorry,
can't always follow the heard. Thanks again for the off list advice. Ron
NB Ore
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Subject: | Re: Model III-A?? |
Noel,
Do ou have a serial number. We have 17 model IIIs and 13 Model IIs in the
data base. Maybe a serial number and the help from those folks could fix
your airplane in that time frame.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 7:45 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Model III-A??
>
> To all the Kitfox flyers...
>
> My kitfox is registered as a model III-A. The serial # is 736. I was
> going
> through some of the paper work the other day and noticed the original
> order
> was for a model II.
>
> I am wondering where I can go to find out what has to be done to the plane
> to increase the MTOW from 950 to 1050 safely. Transport Canada has agreed
> to bump it up if I really want it. I would like to do that only if it is
> safe.
>
> The question is this: Is my plane actually a model 2 1/2??? It has the
> separate engine mount and the wing tanks with the small header tank under
> the panel. The wings are concave on the bottoms. At the time the plane
> was
> originally sold as a kit the Rotax 912 engine was an option.
>
> I've checked with John McBean and he is as much in the dark as I am on
> this
> one..... I guess this one is extra unique.... I don't suppose Dan Denney
> is
> still around??
>
> Noel
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Reshrunk fabric |
At 08:19 PM 11/12/2006, you wrote:
>Thanks to the off list response of a nameless member I used a heat gun to
>reshrink some loose fabric on my rudder.
Leave them nameless if you want, but I'd love to hear what you did and how
you did it.
Thanks in advance,
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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