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1. 04:38 AM - Spinner (MA Stanard)
2. 04:39 AM - How to properly measure flight control travel (1Dill Family)
3. 05:04 AM - Wanted: Enclosed Trailer for KitFox IV Speedster (Fox5flyer)
4. 05:15 AM - Re: Re: Tires slipping on rims (Lynn Matteson)
5. 05:17 AM - Re: kitfox V for sale best offer (kirk hull)
6. 05:36 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Instruction (Lynn Matteson)
7. 05:45 AM - Re: Free Condition inspections (Lynn Matteson)
8. 06:39 AM - Re: Spinner ()
9. 06:44 AM - Model IV Buttrib-fuselage seal (Dan McIntyre)
10. 07:23 AM - Re: Free Condition inspections (Fred Shiple)
11. 08:20 AM - Re: Model IV Buttrib-fuselage seal (Lowell Fitt)
12. 12:30 PM - Re: Model II Gross Weight (GypsyBeeInnkeepers)
13. 12:32 PM - Re: Tires slipping on rims (FlyboyTR)
14. 01:27 PM - Re: Bluetooth GPS Receiver (Bob)
15. 01:53 PM - Kitfox 5 performance (Joel)
16. 02:07 PM - Re: Free Condition inspections (Noel Loveys)
17. 04:03 PM - Re: Model IV Buttrib-fuselage seal (Dave and Diane)
18. 04:46 PM - Re: Free Condition inspections (ddsyverson@comcast.net)
19. 04:53 PM - Quest for knowledge-new kitfox fan (Rick Daniels)
20. 05:04 PM - Re: Re: Bluetooth GPS Receiver (Bob Unternaehrer)
21. 07:02 PM - Re: Quest for knowledge-new kitfox fan (floran higgins)
22. 07:04 PM - Re: Spinner (Aerobatics@aol.com)
23. 07:47 PM - Re: Re: Quest for knowledge-new kitfox fan (Rick Daniels)
24. 08:43 PM - Re: Quest for knowledge-new kitfox fan (Guy Buchanan)
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I am looking for a aluminum spinner for my 912s with IVO electric prop.
I have searched far and wide for one and have been unsuccessful. The
one I have now has a small crack by one of the screws. The diameters is
8 and half inches. This spinner came from the old Skystar folks and of
course is no longer available.
If anyone has any leads on where I could get one please let me know.
Thanks,
Michael Stanard
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| Subject: | How to properly measure flight control travel |
Can anybody direct me to a link that provides the proper procedure to
measure the flight control travel?I have a used Kitfox 2 in need of a
revised airworthiness certificate. In the process of gathering the
paperwork, the DAR involved wants a condition inspection checklist
suggested by the manufacturer. The one I have calls for the measurements
that came from the rigging, but I do not have them.
Jeff Dill
N767JD
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| Subject: | Wanted: Enclosed Trailer for KitFox IV Speedster |
Personally, if the airplane is flyable the safest way is to fly it home.
If that isn't possible, then trucking is a good way to do it. However, I
seem to recall that many years ago a member here on the list transported his
a long distance and when he got home he found a lot of damage including bent
longerons, broken tail spring, bent motor mount, and some other serious
things that I can't recall. The reason was that those vans are sprung to
haul enormous weights and with a 500 lb Kitfox they ride as if they're
empty, which means not smooth, especially at the back where the ride is the
harshest. So, when transporting this way ensure it has as much cushion as
possible. One way to cushion the tail is to elevate it with a couple of
inner tubes and the whole thing bungied to the floor. Removing the engine
and bolting the whole mount to the floor might help also. I think someone
said he removed the wings and strapped them to the sides of the box while
they rode on inner tubes.
These are just a few things to be aware of, but with some thought I'm sure
it would be safe.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Buchanan" <bnn@nethere.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Wanted: Enclosed Trailer for KitFox IV Speedster
>
> At 07:53 AM 11/15/2006, you wrote:
> >I am in the process of purchasing a KitFox, and need a way to get it
home.
>
> If you just need to get it home, rent a U-haul truck 1-way. That's what I
> did, Ft. Worth to San Diego in a 24' box.
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tires slipping on rims |
Aha! Shades of early drag racing....I used to do the same thing with
slicks on my dragster and low tire pressures.
Lynn
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On Wednesday, November 15, 2006, at 10:46 AM, FlyboyTR wrote:
>
> Way back when... I had problems with the tires slipping on the rims.
> We always ran very low air pressure (very rough field). Our fix was
> to drill six equally spaced holes in the bead of the rim (both sides).
> Then we carefully screwed in a #6X3/8 stainless sheet metal screw.
> They were never long enough to go all the way through the bead of the
> tire, but provided enough grip to STOP the tire from slipping on the
> rim.
>
> Travis :)
>
> --------
> Travis Rayner
> Mobile, AL
> Skystar Vixen
> N-789DF
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74787#74787
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| Subject: | kitfox V for sale best offer |
A larger family is no reason to sell an airplane. It's just a good reason
to get a bigger hanger
_____
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeff puls
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: kitfox V for sale best offer
Bob,
That is one of the prettiest Kitfox's I have seen!!! Jeff Classic IV
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Holiday <mailto:moto123@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:55 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: kitfox V for sale best offer
I just had a new tuned exhaust built for it and she's ready to go. I flew
for about one hour yesterday and had a blast. Landed at KICT in front of a
Citation 10 jet. Price is negotiable. larger family requires larger
airplane.
web page
http://airplaneforsale.bicyclepedaler.com/
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"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Instruction |
I too, wanted to fly off the 40 hours on my plane, but wasn't quite a
pilot yet, so I got a current airlines pilot to test fly my plane, fly
off some of the 40, then let another 2 pilots fly off the remainder of
the 40. Then I got instruction in mine, soloed in it, and now have over
120 hours solo in it. All this since March of this year. I couldn't
have stood to wait SIX! years for this to happen. In my younger years,
I would have flown it myself, wrecked it, and still be crying.
Please don't let the pride of wanting to fly your own test program rob
you of the joy of getting up there before another large time frame goes
by. I don't know what your situation is, but once you are flying your
own plane, you will forget who flew off the 40, and just concentrate on
who's flying off the next 40, 80, 100....and that will be you. Have
fun...soon!
Lynn
On Wednesday, November 15, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Tom Jones wrote:
>
> A retired airline caption flew my model 4 for the its first flight six
> years ago and then offered to fly the rest of the 40 hours off. He
> loved the little kitfox but I wanted to fly the test phase myself. So
> here I am six years down the road and getting closer. I can take off
> land the Stinson now with out things getting too out of hand.
> Tom Jones
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74928#74928
>
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| Subject: | Re: Free Condition inspections |
That remark is not going to make you too many friends on this list,
Steve....Lowell is pretty well thought of around these parts...might
want to rethink that one.
Lynn
On Wednesday, November 15, 2006, at 10:20 PM, 84KF wrote:
>
> Anyone local Kitfox owners within 75 miles or so of Milford, Mi.
> needing an annual condition inspection can E-mail me .....if you can
> get past Lowells hate mail.
> 26 yrs experience, certificated ac and amateur-built. A&P, wI.A.
>
> stevebenesh@comcast.net
>
> steve
>
> --------
> Steve: Former Fi-156 'Storch' driver (...talk about folding wings!!!)
> New owner, not builder- Kitfox V / 912UL / Warp Dr 3 blade. Thanks to
> the late great Ray Mudge, Brighton Mi.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74918#74918
>
>
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Michael
I got a nice one from John McBean
http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MA Stanard
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:37 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Spinner
I am looking for a aluminum spinner for my 912s with IVO electric prop.
I have searched far and wide for one and have been unsuccessful. The
one I have now has a small crack by one of the screws. The diameters is
8 and half inches. This spinner came from the old Skystar folks and of
course is no longer available.
If anyone has any leads on where I could get one please let me know.
Thanks,
Michael Stanard
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| Subject: | Model IV Buttrib-fuselage seal |
Hello List, I'm trying to decide if I should cover the butt rib to
fuselage with fabric with the pre sewn fuel tank window, sold by the new
Kitfox, or purchase the seals offered by Merle Williams and or Blue Sky
Aviation. Anyone out there have photo of these seals, I like to see what
they look like before purchase them or maybe someone out there has some
other suggestions? I've looked through the Sportflight photos but see
anything that would help.
Thanks
Dan Mc Intyre
N434DM
Model IV, Jab 2200
danm@gangnailtruss.com
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| Subject: | Re: Free Condition inspections |
Well said! Thanks,Lynn.
Fred
Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
That remark is not going to make you too many friends on this list,
Steve....Lowell is pretty well thought of around these parts...might
want to rethink that one.
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| Subject: | Re: Model IV Buttrib-fuselage seal |
Dan, I used the Merle Williams seals and like them. I didn't cover the
ribs but sanded and varnished them. In most lighting conditions, I can see
the fuel level through the tank wall.
Attached are three photos. I found this area tough to photograph to get a
real clear indication of what they really look like. If you want another
angle, drop a note.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan McIntyre" <danm@gangnailtruss.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 6:48 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Model IV Buttrib-fuselage seal
Hello List, I'm trying to decide if I should cover the butt rib to fuselage
with fabric with the pre sewn fuel tank window, sold by the new Kitfox, or
purchase the seals offered by Merle Williams and or Blue Sky Aviation.
Anyone out there have photo of these seals, I like to see what they look
like before purchase them or maybe someone out there has some other
suggestions? I've looked through the Sportflight photos but see anything
that would help.
Thanks
Dan Mc Intyre
N434DM
Model IV, Jab 2200
danm@gangnailtruss.com
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| Subject: | Re: Model II Gross Weight |
Hi John,
This is Rex over here in Colorado. Could you send me the details about
what and how to check if my Kitfox 2 might be capable of 1050 gross? You
know it's already got the airworthiness certificate, but it would be
good to know anyway. S/N 496
Thanks,
Rex
john perry wrote:
> Hello Noel
> original MTOW is 950. Contact me off list for all the rest of the story.
>
> Fly safe fly low fly slow
> John Perry
> Kitfox 2 N718PD
> eskflyer@lvcisp.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Noel Loveys <mailto:noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
> *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com <mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:20 PM
> *Subject:* RE: Kitfox-List: Model II Gross Weight
>
> John:
>
> What is the MTOW of your plane?
>
>
>
> Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *Rex Shaw
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:02 PM
> *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com <mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Kitfox-List: Model II Gross Weight
>
> I just rechecked the book and it does say 448 as the final S/N
> for Mod II. However John Mc Bean's History page says 748 and
> that lines up with 749 as the first Mod III so obviously 448
> is a misprint.
> Purely my personal opinion is that there was a gradual phasing
> in of the modifications for Mod III. This would seem logical
> to me.
>
> Rex.
>
> my model 2 is serial # 718
>
> john perry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Fox5flyer
> To: Kitfox List
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:59 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Gross weight and model
>
>
> <"according to Ed Downs "Kitfox Pilots Guide" Model 2 was
> serial
> numbers 258 to 448 and Model 3's are 749 to 1215.">
>
> Interesting. My Model 2 was #606.
> Deke
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tires slipping on rims |
Lynn,
Actually that's were I picked it up at years ago. Baby powder can be used between
the tire and the tube. It act's as a lubericant between the tire and the
tube (they don't stick together) This can help with slipping tires. I use baby
powder on all applications that have tubes.
Travis
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Travis Rayner
Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen
N-789DF
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| Subject: | Re: Bluetooth GPS Receiver |
Sorry not to check in for a couple of days to answer you. The easy question was what is the source of fuel price data, and the answer is that it's from www.100LL.com. When updating Anywheremap from their download site, this can be updated, so what's in my PocketPC is typically as recent as the last time I hit their site. Like I wrote, with a tap it'll also give the prices at the surrounding airports, with distance and bearing info. Tap on any of the airport designators and instantly go to the info about that airport. Another two (?) taps and that airport goes into the flight plan as a destination or way-point. It's a nice feature while in-flight and you notice that the winds have given you a higher fuel burn than planned. I'll check every half-hour if bored in-flight and regularly find fuel stops that are cheaper than I'd planned.
Besides that, what did I feel was different? Hmmm. I just went back to look at
the PocketFMS site and a number of the Anywheremap features are now also in
PocketFMS, which weren't there when I made my decision. The live-weather (by XM
Satellite) function on Anywheremap is an expensive option with additional parts
to keep up. It would be a great feature when the weather is really active.
It looks like PocketFMS weather is simpler, free, and just a download during
preflight hookup to the internet. I'm VFR equipped, so like the PocketFMS weather
concept. I can also understand why you Europeans prefer the PocketFMS,
as their mapping is hands-down better for where you live.
AnywhereMap has re-assuring "cones of safety" which are green rings around airports
to instantly know if you can glide there or not. They get bigger as you
gain altitude and are based on a glide rate that you store for your airplane description
during set-up. Not sure if PocketFMS has that one, but it's sure nice
at night. AnywhereMap can also go straight into an approach mode that gives
localizer displays if you need/want, when the fan stops up front. Both now
have the terrain warning feature. Not sure if PocketFMS has that one, either.
Within the US, AnywhereMap updates the entire country's maps as a really simple
and fast single download whenever I click on their download site. Plus, the
restricted airpace can pop up where I live as fast as somebody in the White house
wants to change their itinerary, so updates HAVE to be right EVERY time and
I'm not worried (as much) with AnywhereMap, which is getting their info straight
from the Government. In-flight, the ability to set up the Anywheremap display
to show just the features I want to see are better and PocketFMS appeared
more cluttered. For a casual local or VFR flight without a plan and near our
restricted airspace, Anywheremap was just easier to load and go. When clicking
on any nav or airport data, AnywhereMap is seamless where I found PocketFMS
presented too much and had a lot that I had to wade through. For example, I
want to just see ATIS frequencies as we're flying along, and when I click on
an airport don't want to see full listings of lattitude, longitude, and everything
else when I just want fuel prices. Same with restricted airspace in AnywhereMap,
in that with a tap the airspace boundaries highlight and show effective
altitudes, and another tap will get me to the active times and ATC frequency.
Both depend on the BT GPS and PocketPC to be established and need to be reset if
anything gets disconnected. I still fly with an old back-up Garmin hiking GPS
and real maps, just because I still don't trust Microsoft products with my
life or license. If PocketPC works for you, great, my personal use just seemed
to lean to AnywhereMap.
Bob
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| Subject: | Kitfox 5 performance |
I've switched to a fixed pitch 72" powerfin borrowed from a friend building a 701.
Today's flight conducted at sealevel, wind 160 @ 6, temp 6c dewpoint -2c barometer
30.00 produced the following results:
Take off max rpm 5500 climb @ 60mph ias 1050 fpm
climb to 4000' 82 ias @ 5500 rpm (reduced throttle)
73 ias @ 5000 rpm
67 ias @ 4800 rpm
58 ias @ 4300 rpm
slow flight @ 3900 w/ full flaps 42 ias good handling in 90 degree turns
reducing to 1/2 flaps and staying level rapidly accelerated toward 60 ias
At 5000' I have to reduce throttle to stay below 5800 rpm. 5500 rpm involves a
lot of throttle movement.
I'm still too busy to cross check ias with GPS speeds, maybe next flight.
The glare from my smile is making the GPS difficult to read anyway. :)
--------
Joel Mapes Kitfox 5 912 ULS Aerocomp amphibs
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| Subject: | Free Condition inspections |
Nicely put Lynn
However ....
When it comes to having our planes safe I don't think there is any room for
personality conflicts. Steve has the practical credits and Lowell has much
experience...including experience dealing with FAA officials.
This may be one of those special places where it doesn't pay to "carry a big
stick".
P.S. I contacted Transport Canada today and spoke with the inspector for
eastern Canada on a similar Canadian issue. He was intrigued with my
investigation into the regulations, I am close to Steve's Canadian counter
part. I told him I didn't require a "Now" ( never pressure Transport Canada
:-) )answer and we agreed that I would call him next week for further
discussions. He told me there was a meeting in Monkton this weekend of
personnel from across the country. He is going to table my issue and
argument for discussion.
The real trick was not to be confrontational!
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Lynn Matteson
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:17 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Free Condition inspections
>
>
>
> That remark is not going to make you too many friends on this list,
> Steve....Lowell is pretty well thought of around these parts...might
> want to rethink that one.
>
> Lynn
> On Wednesday, November 15, 2006, at 10:20 PM, 84KF wrote:
>
> >
> > Anyone local Kitfox owners within 75 miles or so of Milford, Mi.
> > needing an annual condition inspection can E-mail me
> .....if you can
> > get past Lowells hate mail.
> > 26 yrs experience, certificated ac and amateur-built. A&P, wI.A.
> >
> > stevebenesh@comcast.net
> >
> > steve
> >
> > --------
> > Steve: Former Fi-156 'Storch' driver (...talk about
> folding wings!!!)
> > New owner, not builder- Kitfox V / 912UL / Warp Dr 3 blade.
> Thanks to
> > the late great Ray Mudge, Brighton Mi.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74918#74918
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Model IV Buttrib-fuselage seal |
Dan,
There are several ways to do this.
I have a model 7 and decided to use:
1) a polycarbonate window on the outboard side of all of the buttrib holes.
2) a piece of aluminum bonded into the space from the buttrib & fuselege
between the door hinges
3) a cuff bonded at the door hinge points to seal the ends
4) nothing on the inside structure where the flexible window would normally go
- just a clear view of the inboard end of the wing & fuel tank
I decided a clear view into the end of the wing was not going to bother me at
all.
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Dave S
St Paul, MN
On Thursday 16 November 2006 8:48 am, Dan McIntyre wrote:
> Hello List, I'm trying to decide if I should cover the butt rib to fuselage
> with fabric with the pre sewn fuel tank window,
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| Subject: | Re: Free Condition inspections |
Steve,
At some point in time you need to start being a little more diplomatic with
those you share this list with.
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Dave
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 9:20 pm, 84KF wrote:
>
> ....if you can get past Lowells
> hate mail. 26 yrs experience, certificated ac and amateur-built. A&P,
> wI.A.
>
> stevebenesh@comcast.net
>
> steve
>
> --------
> Steve: Former Fi-156 'Storch' driver (...talk about folding wings!!!)
> New owner, not builder- Kitfox V / 912UL / Warp Dr 3 blade. Thanks to the
> late great Ray Mudge, Brighton Mi.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Quest for knowledge-new kitfox fan |
Greetings list. I am a private pilot (since 1969) gone light sport and
have developed a lot of interest in the Kitfox. Time constraints
mandate either a project already started or one completed. I am going
to purchase one any day now but after reading the posts on this list
over the last several days and searching the archives I find that I need
to start asking some questions. I have found a model III and a Model IV
that I am considering purchasing. I think the model III is a better
deal but need some experienced Kitfox flyers (like yourselves) to tell
me why and if one should favor the model IV over the Model III. The
Kitfox website explains the improvements of the model IV over the Model
III very well. I guess my real question is "is there a reason to stay
away from the Model III. I should probably add that I live in western
Montana so mountain flying will be an everyday experience. I don't
think I want to learn new tricks at this stage of my life and get rated
in a taildragger so I plan on converting which ever one I decide to buy
to tri-gear. Would welcome any input in that area as well. (I know
"real aviators fly taildraggers" and all the other clich=E9s but I know
where I am comfortable). Finally, how does one get in touch with a
"Merle Williams" Thanks in advance for your help.
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| Subject: | Re: Bluetooth GPS Receiver |
<<<Sorry not to check in for a couple of days to answer you. The easy
question was what is the source of fuel price data, and the answer is that
it's from www.100LL.com. When updating Anywheremap from their download
site, this can be updated, so what's in my PocketPC is typically as recent
as the last time I hit their site>>>
what I was wondering was how accurate was "their" data and where did they
get it. The only thing I have used is "airnav.com" and that dependes on a
pilot report for fuel prices and can be off a bunch. Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob" <dswaim1119@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:26 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Bluetooth GPS Receiver
>
> Sorry not to check in for a couple of days to answer you. The easy
question was what is the source of fuel price data, and the answer is that
it's from www.100LL.com. When updating Anywheremap from their download
site, this can be updated, so what's in my PocketPC is typically as recent
as the last time I hit their site. Like I wrote, with a tap it'll also give
the prices at the surrounding airports, with distance and bearing info. Tap
on any of the airport designators and instantly go to the info about that
airport. Another two (?) taps and that airport goes into the flight plan as
a destination or way-point. It's a nice feature while in-flight and you
notice that the winds have given you a higher fuel burn than planned. I'll
check every half-hour if bored in-flight and regularly find fuel stops that
are cheaper than I'd planned.
>
> Besides that, what did I feel was different? Hmmm. I just went back to
look at the PocketFMS site and a number of the Anywheremap features are now
also in PocketFMS, which weren't there when I made my decision. The
live-weather (by XM Satellite) function on Anywheremap is an expensive
option with additional parts to keep up. It would be a great feature when
the weather is really active. It looks like PocketFMS weather is simpler,
free, and just a download during preflight hookup to the internet. I'm VFR
equipped, so like the PocketFMS weather concept. I can also understand why
you Europeans prefer the PocketFMS, as their mapping is hands-down better
for where you live.
>
> AnywhereMap has re-assuring "cones of safety" which are green rings around
airports to instantly know if you can glide there or not. They get bigger
as you gain altitude and are based on a glide rate that you store for your
airplane description during set-up. Not sure if PocketFMS has that one, but
it's sure nice at night. AnywhereMap can also go straight into an approach
mode that gives localizer displays if you need/want, when the fan stops up
front. Both now have the terrain warning feature. Not sure if PocketFMS
has that one, either.
>
> Within the US, AnywhereMap updates the entire country's maps as a really
simple and fast single download whenever I click on their download site.
Plus, the restricted airpace can pop up where I live as fast as somebody in
the White house wants to change their itinerary, so updates HAVE to be right
EVERY time and I'm not worried (as much) with AnywhereMap, which is getting
their info straight from the Government. In-flight, the ability to set up
the Anywheremap display to show just the features I want to see are better
and PocketFMS appeared more cluttered. For a casual local or VFR flight
without a plan and near our restricted airspace, Anywheremap was just easier
to load and go. When clicking on any nav or airport data, AnywhereMap is
seamless where I found PocketFMS presented too much and had a lot that I had
to wade through. For example, I want to just see ATIS frequencies as we're
flying along, and when I click on an airport don't want to see full listings
of lattit!
> ude, longitude, and everything else when I just want fuel prices. Same
with restricted airspace in AnywhereMap, in that with a tap the airspace
boundaries highlight and show effective altitudes, and another tap will get
me to the active times and ATC frequency.
>
> Both depend on the BT GPS and PocketPC to be established and need to be
reset if anything gets disconnected. I still fly with an old back-up Garmin
hiking GPS and real maps, just because I still don't trust Microsoft
products with my life or license. If PocketPC works for you, great, my
personal use just seemed to lean to AnywhereMap.
>
> Bob
>
> --------
> Remember that internet advice may only be worth what you pay.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=75056#75056
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Quest for knowledge-new kitfox fan |
Rick,
Where are you located?
I am in Helena with a model 4 speedster.
Floran H.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Daniels
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 5:51 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Quest for knowledge-new kitfox fan
Greetings list. I am a private pilot (since 1969) gone light sport
and have developed a lot of interest in the Kitfox. Time constraints
mandate either a project already started or one completed. I am going
to purchase one any day now but after reading the posts on this list
over the last several days and searching the archives I find that I need
to start asking some questions. I have found a model III and a Model IV
that I am considering purchasing. I think the model III is a better
deal but need some experienced Kitfox flyers (like yourselves) to tell
me why and if one should favor the model IV over the Model III. The
Kitfox website explains the improvements of the model IV over the Model
III very well. I guess my real question is "is there a reason to stay
away from the Model III. I should probably add that I live in western
Montana so mountain flying will be an everyday experience. I don't
think I want to learn new tricks at this stage of my life and get rated
in a taildragger so I plan on converting which ever one I decide to buy
to tri-gear. Would welcome any input in that area as well. (I know
"real aviators fly taildraggers" and all the other clich=E9s but I know
where I am comfortable). Finally, how does one get in touch with a
"Merle Williams" Thanks in advance for your help.
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11/15/2006
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would you concider a fiberglass one? will never crack...... a thought..
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| Subject: | Re: Quest for knowledge-new kitfox fan |
Floran
In Canyon Ferry, we are neighbors. I would like to look at your
speedster. I am in the book, call me if you will.
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: Quest for knowledge-new kitfox fan |
At 04:51 PM 11/16/2006, you wrote:
>I think the model III is a better deal but need some experienced Kitfox
>flyers (like yourselves) to tell me why and if one should favor the model
>IV over the Model III.
Well now. . . I can't speak for the III, but the IV is clearly the BEST
Kitfox out there. And of the IV's, the ones with 582 are clearly the BEST.
Of course it isn't just the aircraft. You have to understand that IV pilots
are a breed apart: handsome, intelligent, witty, and superlative pilots.
You'll want to think long and hard about whether you have the moxie, the
chutzpah, the sheer unadulterated machismo required to fly a IV. If so come
join us. We're an elite group, but friendly to our equals. (GD&R)
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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