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Sat 11/18/06


Total Messages Posted: 18



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     1. 05:59 AM - Re: Quest for knowledge-new kitfox fan (tc9008@aol.com)
     2. 09:25 AM - Jabiru Service Bulletin (Michel Verheughe)
     3. 02:48 PM - [ Charles W. Bloom ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
     4. 05:48 PM - List Activity (Dee Young)
     5. 06:51 PM - Glare Shield/Dash (GENTRYLL@aol.com)
     6. 07:28 PM - Re: List Activity (Lynn Matteson)
     7. 07:43 PM - Re: Re: CLASSIC IV FLAPERONS RIG... (ron schick)
     8. 07:46 PM - Re: List Activity (ron schick)
     9. 08:01 PM - Re: Powerfin 69" 3-blade prop (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
    10. 08:07 PM - Re: radio problemradio problem (kirk hull)
    11. 08:26 PM - KITFOX HELP NEEDED (RRTRACK@AOL.COM)
    12. 09:06 PM - Re: List Activity (Noel Loveys)
    13. 09:25 PM - Re: KITFOX HELP NEEDED (ron schick)
    14. 09:47 PM - Re: Jabiru Service Bulletin (Jim Crowder)
    15. 10:06 PM - Re: KITFOX HELP NEEDED (kurt schrader)
    16. 10:17 PM - Re: Glare Shield/Dash (kurt schrader)
    17. 11:12 PM - Kitfox Instruction (John Allen)
    18. 11:35 PM - Enclosed Trailer for KitFox IV Speedster (John Allen)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:59:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Quest for knowledge-new kitfox fan
    From: tc9008@aol.com
    Yes it can . I put one on a 582 and it works well. I haven't had to change any jets or adjustments. Travis North Carolina -----Original Message----- From: msm_9949@yahoo.com Sent: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 6:35 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Quest for knowledge-new kitfox fan Think so. See http://www.greenskyadventures.com/bing/HACmanorder.htm Frank Miles <f.miles.tcp.833@clearwire.net> wrote: Does anyone know if the 582 can be outfitted with an altitude-compensating carburetor, Bing or otherwise? Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel Verheughe Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Quest for knowledge-new kitfox fan On Nov 17, 2006, at 6:50 PM, Rick Daniels wrote: > Am I to understand that the III is a 100mph airplane regardless of > engine because of the wing config.? Yes, the undercambered wings, the flaperons and the lexan, Rick. On my model 3, I have a Jabiru 2200 and I can't use full throttle at level because I would bust the red line of 100 MPH. But that's not a problem with me, I like to fly and have no haste to arrive to destination! :-) > Also, someone cautioned me about the III's altitude ability which is > a real concern for me in the mountains. Is that because of the > airplane or engine? Probably the engine, I can't think of anything that would prevent the plane itself. In Norway, I fly up to 8,500 ft to pass over the mountains, both with the original Rotax 582 and the new Jabiru and never noticed a problem. Incidentally, the Jabiru has an altitude-compensated Bing carburettor but ... I don't notice a difference in performance, both ________________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 09:25:31 AM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Jabiru Service Bulletin
    For the sake of those who have a Kitfox with a Jabiru engine, but are not on the Jabiru list, here is the link to the inspection and re-torque of the flywheel bolts I did today. http://home.online.no/~michel/Flywheel/ Cheers, Michel


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    Time: 02:48:33 PM PST US
    Subject: [ Charles W. Bloom ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    From: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
    A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Charles W. Bloom <kj7sr@earthlink.net> Lists: Kitfox-List Subject: My Model One, Serial No 8 http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/kj7sr@earthlink.net.11.18.2006/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------- o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ----------------------------------------------------------


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    Time: 05:48:02 PM PST US
    From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
    Subject: List Activity
    I haven't received any list mail today??????? Dee Do Not Achive


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    Time: 06:51:01 PM PST US
    From: GENTRYLL@aol.com
    Subject: Glare Shield/Dash
    Any good ideas out there on making a glare shield for a IV?


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    Time: 07:28:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: List Activity
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    I've only had a couple...maybe they are all watching football....or like me they are/were all flying? Lynn do not archive On Saturday, November 18, 2006, at 08:47 PM, Dee Young wrote: > I haven't received any list mail today??????? > > Dee > > Do Not Achive > >


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    Time: 07:43:24 PM PST US
    From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: CLASSIC IV FLAPERONS RIG...
    Hi Pedro I taped a small piece of wood such as a broom handle to the bottom of the flaperons extending forward to a point 1" below the forward wing spars. Center the control stick and adjust linkage rods to fit flaperons. You may need to lengthen or shorten both equally from there to get the proper nuetral flap setting. Be sure to check for binding when moving stick to all extreme positions. Ron NB Ore >From: "PEDRO PEREZ" <5324@PRTC.NET> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: CLASSIC IV FLAPERONS RIG... >Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:42:10 -0400 > >HELLO: I NEED TO RIG.. MY AILERONS AGAIN...DO ANY OF YOURS HAVE ANY WAY >TO DO IT POINT BY POINT//////// THANKS A MILLION > >PEDRO >AGAIN IN THE AIR//// >CLASSIC IV WITH VERNER ENGINE _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list.


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    Time: 07:46:21 PM PST US
    From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: List Activity
    Eatin turkey and flying with a fellow Kitfoxer in Portland Oregon. Ron NB Ore do not archive >From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: List Activity >Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:29:22 -0500 > > >I've only had a couple...maybe they are all watching football....or like me >they are/were all flying? > >Lynn >do not archive >On Saturday, November 18, 2006, at 08:47 PM, Dee Young wrote: > >>I haven't received any list mail today??????? >> >>Dee >> >>Do Not Achive >> >> >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module.


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    Time: 08:01:38 PM PST US
    From: "Jim_and_Lucy Chuk" <thesupe@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Powerfin 69" 3-blade prop
    Hi Ron, I can't believe the mail service, the prop showed up today!! It sure looks nice. Except for the slight mark on the one blade, if you said it was brand new. no one would argue with you. Well I got it mounted on the plane and made a quick trip around the patch. Not enough pitch, 7000rpm and 1350 EGT. The EGTs really had me scared till I got back on the ground. Repitched the prop and rpm and EGT dropped but still to high on the next trip around the patch, but by the time I got things readjusted for the next try, it was getting to late to try it out again. Well I'll try it some more tomorrow. I made out a check for you and got it in an envelope to drop in the mail. Thanks again, Jim >From: "Ron Carroll" <roncar@minetfiber.com> >To: "Kitfox list" <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Kitfox-List: Powerfin 69" 3-blade prop >Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:26:35 -0800 > > >I am no longer a kitfox flyer, so therefore I no longer need my ground >adjustable Powerfin 3-blade prop. > >I bought the prop 3-years ago for my 582 (3:1 C-box) powered Kitfox-III, >and >used it about a month before I sold the plane. The prop is actually like >new with the exception of a slight scratch on the front side of one blade >which looks worse than it really is. In fact, the scratch can't even be >felt with your fingernail, but it can be seen. It could probably be >polished out, but I didn't want to try. I can send pictures if requested. > >I will offer it on eBay if no one on the list is interested. I paid about >$650 for it, and will sell it at half that, plus shipping. > >If you have interest, please let me know before too long, > >Ron > >roncar@minetfiber.com > >do not archive > > _________________________________________________________________ Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger.


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    Time: 08:07:36 PM PST US
    From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
    Subject: radio problemradio problem
    I finally had a chance to try out another antenna and it solved the problem. Thanks everyone -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fox5flyer Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 3:20 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: radio problemradio problem Thanks Dave. Good contribution. Deke Morisse List Janitor do not archive > > http://www.cfisher.com/ > link on left side of page about 4 down "compass swing ." > > That a little program that makes a compass card I use. > Once you plug in the numbers just print on sticky paper. > > > Dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave and Diane" <ddsyverson@comcast.net> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:41 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: radio problemradio problem > > <ddsyverson@comcast.net> > > > > Barry & all, > > > > Vertical card compass...... exactly what I have been hoping & trying to > > get. > > Spruce seems to have been out of stock for the last 100 years (ok - just > > one > > year). Local aircraft wrecking yard seems to be out. Any idea where a > > person > > can actually GET a vertical card compass? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dave S > > St Paul MN > > M-7 nosedragger > > > > Do Not Archive > > > > On Friday 03 November 2006 3:58 pm, Barry West wrote: > >> George, don't mount the compass above the radios unless it is a dry > >> compass. Mine leaked on the com and it cost $300 to get it fixed besides > >> the problem of coming back in with the handheld. I'm buying a vertical > >> card, dry compass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:26:46 PM PST US
    From: RRTRACK@AOL.COM
    Subject: KITFOX HELP NEEDED
    Hello Kitfox owners and builders I am the proud new owner of a very nice Kitfox V Vixon. I am having it transported, and need help to remove the wings for transport. If there is anyone that is familiar with removing the wings on this model so I can get it into an enclosed trailer I would like to talk to you. It is in the Atlanta area if anyone could help on Monday afternoon. I built an Avid Flyer in 1987 and have been flying it ever since. I love the Avid, but want to move up to a newer faster type of plane without the losing the fun factor the Avid always has. This forum has provided a lot of useful information and inspiration. I hope this Kitfox will keep me enjoying the thrill of flight for the next 10 years or more. Thanks, Mark _RRTRACK@AOL.COM_ (mailto:RRTRACK@AOL.COM)


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    Time: 09:06:53 PM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: List Activity
    I wish... High winds low ceilings here today. Also ended up with a couple of truck loads of topsoil where my improved lawn will be. Manual Labour turns out to be a Newfoundlander! Noel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Lynn Matteson > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 11:59 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: List Activity > > > > I've only had a couple...maybe they are all watching football....or > like me they are/were all flying? > > Lynn > do not archive > On Saturday, November 18, 2006, at 08:47 PM, Dee Young wrote: > > > I haven't received any list mail today??????? > > > > Dee > > > > Do Not Achive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:25:00 PM PST US
    From: "ron schick" <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
    Subject: KITFOX HELP NEEDED
    Mark I can tell you some of the things to be careful with. The fuel from the tank and hose must not touch the window so have plans to plug both the line and tank if cut or what is needed. Secure the flaperon so as not to over rotate and damage where the hinges will hit the end of slots. I folded the wings and hung from rafters in garage with a rope safetied to each spar and a strap around wing near tip. Ropes to pull slightly away from fuselage. Removed strut brace, all strut nuts, lower bolt, then upper bolts to free the strut. The plane then rolled forward and left the wings hanging. Two people make the job a breeze in a garage. Good luck and good questioin as prevention is WAY better than the cure. Ron NB Ore >From: RRTRACK@aol.com >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: KITFOX HELP NEEDED >Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:26:20 EST > >Hello Kitfox owners and builders > I am the proud new owner of a very nice Kitfox V Vixon. I am having it >transported, and need help to remove the wings for transport. If there is >anyone >that is familiar with removing the wings on this model so I can get it >into >an enclosed trailer I would like to talk to you. It is in the Atlanta area >if >anyone could help on Monday afternoon. > I built an Avid Flyer in 1987 and have been flying it ever since. I >love >the Avid, but want to move up to a newer faster type of plane without the >losing the fun factor the Avid always has. > This forum has provided a lot of useful information and inspiration. I >hope this Kitfox will keep me enjoying the thrill of flight for the next 10 >years or more. >Thanks, >Mark >_RRTRACK@AOL.COM_ (mailto:RRTRACK@AOL.COM) _________________________________________________________________ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help


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    Time: 09:47:12 PM PST US
    From: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Jabiru Service Bulletin
    At 10:24 AM 11/18/2006, you wrote: > >For the sake of those who have a Kitfox with a Jabiru engine, but >are not on the Jabiru list, here is the link to the inspection and >re-torque of the flywheel bolts I did today. > >http://home.online.no/~michel/Flywheel/ > >Cheers, >Michel Michel, The last time I wrote you I am sure I misspelled your name. Sorry. What is the blue tool you show in your picture apparently identified as torch? If it is a torch, it is unlike any I have ever used. No Jabiru engine as yet but curious. Jim Crowder do not archive


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    Time: 10:06:24 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: KITFOX HELP NEEDED
    Hi Mark, To add another method, here is how I did mine for transport: First, as was already said, use 2 people. Much less risk. I leveled my plane, since mine is a tail dragger, but you are ahead on this already. Second, disconnect all flight control, fuel and wiring connections. Third, I found that a padded step ladder fit under my wings near the outboard end at a rib. Not sure if the trigear will fit the same??? The taildragger gear may be taller. Fourth, remove the lift struts being careful not to damage anything top or bottom. Remove the bottom bolt first, but leave in place. Lub the bottom for easier removal. Undue the top bolts and be careful for wing setteling. Make sure not to drop the strut and bend the bottom tabs. The second person may need to lift the wing slightly for strut removal at the top. Once the top is disconnected, rotate the strut gently fore and aft to undue the bottom. Don't poke your wing while looking at the bottom. Fifth, undue the spar bolts and carefully remove the wing with someone on both ends. Nothing extra needed except the ladder and padding. Make sure to have a place to lay the wing down. I built 2 inverted "T" stands with padding for the wings to stand on their noses on either side of the T. Just strapped the wings to the T's. Kurt S. S-5 --- RRTRACK@aol.com wrote: > Hello Kitfox owners and builders > I am the proud new owner of a very nice Kitfox V > Vixon. I am having it > transported, and need help to remove the wings for > transport. If there is anyone > that is familiar with removing the wings on this > model so I can get it into > an enclosed trailer I would like to talk to you. It > is in the Atlanta area if > anyone could help on Monday afternoon. > I built an Avid Flyer in 1987 and have been flying > it ever since. I love > the Avid, but want to move up to a newer faster type > of plane without the > losing the fun factor the Avid always has. > This forum has provided a lot of useful > information and inspiration. I > hope this Kitfox will keep me enjoying the thrill of > flight for the next 10 > years or more. > Thanks, > Mark Don't quit your job - take classes online www.Classesusa.com


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    Time: 10:17:19 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Glare Shield/Dash
    Hummm. You could: Support the new owners at http://www.sportplanellc.com/ Or try lexan cut to fit. Mine is fiberglass, but that would take some time to fabricate yourself. Aluminum is light, but will drum unless you put fabric over it. Do you have an old one? If not, someone might be able to send you a pattern from theirs. Just a few ideas since the list is so quiet. kurt S. --- GENTRYLL@aol.com wrote: > Any good ideas out there on making a glare shield > for a IV?


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    Time: 11:12:49 PM PST US
    From: John Allen <kitfoxfugit@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Kitfox Instruction
    Original message: I am looking for an instructor with a tail wheel Kitfox. If your aircraft has dual brakes, you may find a tailwheel instructor locally. If not, and your plane is not limited in useful load, contact me off list and I can give you the name of a CFI with lots of Kitfox time. He stopped commercial flying for a career change and may be interested in giving Kitfox instruction to supplement his income. He may even come to your area and/or ferry the plane to you. John Allen 209-223-5705 KF IV Speedster 912UL


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    Time: 11:35:11 PM PST US
    From: John Allen <kitfoxfugit@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Enclosed Trailer for KitFox IV Speedster
    Original Message: I am in the process of purchasing a KitFox, and need a way to get it home. Does anyone have or know of anyone that has an enclosed trailer that will accept a Model IV Speedster...? I have an open Skystar trailer (not 4 Sale) that came with my plane. It has one axle and carries the aircraft with wings folded just fine without damage behind a vehicle as light as a Jeep. I saw a website not long ago that has quite a few KF trailers 4 Sale, mostly home made, including enclosed. I think it was referenced on this list. If you haul it, be sure the transport vehicle is lightly sprung or the aircraft is properly cushioned and adequately secured from shifting or rocking against the sides. Years ago I used truck inner tubes to support aircraft and parts being hauled on open trucks and trailers. My son has hauled wings successfully by cradling them with ropes suspended in a cattle trailer. It seems that an enclosed trailer runs the risk of damage to the aircraft in loading and unloading or load shifting. Airplanes are meant to be flown. If it is airworthy and you are not prepared to fly it home yourself, contact me off list and I can give you the name of a pilot with lots of Kitfox time who may be interested in ferrying it for you to supplement his income. He stopped commercial flying for a career change. John Allen 209-223-5705 KF IV Speedster 912UL Degrees online in as fast as 1 Yr MBA, Bachelor's, Master's, Assoc http://yahoo.degrees.info




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