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1. 06:33 AM - Re: Vixen: Fuel Gauge Leak.. and Clear Fuel Line Recommendation (FlyboyTR)
2. 08:33 AM - Advice on fuel system upgrades (Marco Menezes)
3. 08:57 AM - fluff: world's smallest twin engine airplane (Jim Crowder)
4. 09:10 AM - Re: New - SKI FLYING Video (ramrod25)
5. 10:06 AM - Re: Advice on fuel system upgrades (Guy Buchanan)
6. 10:58 AM - Re: First Flight G-CDXY (David Steade)
7. 11:48 AM - Re: fluff: world's smallest twin engine airplane (Michel Verheughe)
8. 11:51 AM - Re: fluff: world's smallest twin engine airplane (Clem Nichols)
9. 12:55 PM - Re: First Flight G-CDXY (Michel Verheughe)
10. 01:09 PM - Model 4 headroom clearance (John Cotter)
11. 02:02 PM - Re: Model 4 headroom clearance (flier)
12. 02:32 PM - Normalized Fuse (David Anthony)
13. 03:22 PM - Re: Model 4 headroom clearance (jeff puls)
14. 03:55 PM - Re: Model 4 headroom clearance (dcsfoto)
15. 04:34 PM - Re: Advice on fuel system upgrades (Don Smythe)
16. 06:11 PM - Re: Advice on fuel system upgrades (Noel Loveys)
17. 06:14 PM - Re: Cabin Heater Questions (JOHN May)
18. 06:22 PM - Re: Advice on fuel system upgrades (john perry)
19. 07:11 PM - Re: Re: Heater as requested (dave)
20. 07:13 PM - Re: Model 4 headroom clearance (dave)
21. 07:53 PM - gross weight (kirk hull)
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| Subject: | Re: Vixen: Fuel Gauge Leak.. and Clear Fuel Line Recommendation |
Maxwell,
My IO-240 had approximately 260 hours. My rebuilt alternator drive coupling arrived
yesterday...plan to install today and hopefully have the engine back on
the frame before I leave the airport.
Travis
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Travis Rayner
Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen
N-789DF
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| Subject: | Advice on fuel system upgrades |
Listers:
I've just ordered a HacMan unit from Greensky Adventures and a Facet fuel pump
from ACS (as back-up to Mikuni pump). Does anyone have advice on installation,
operation of these units in context of Rotax 582-90 fuel system?
A plumbing diagram for the Facet as a back-up would be really useful. Thanks
in advance.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | fluff: world's smallest twin engine airplane |
Hey guys. Check out the link below. I don't know how he got himself
into the plane and boy could it fly.
Jim Crowder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlV8WJ6N3nU
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| Subject: | Re: New - SKI FLYING Video |
Dave - I also want to add my thanks to you for your awesome videos. While I sit
here in this office it is just so enjoyable to fire up the video and watch all
the fun you are having.
Keep 'em coming - they are really neat.
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Regards,
Rodney Wren
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| Subject: | Re: Advice on fuel system upgrades |
At 08:32 AM 12/12/2006, you wrote:
>I've just ordered a HacMan unit from Greensky Adventures and a Facet fuel
>pump from ACS (as back-up to Mikuni pump). Does anyone have advice on
>installation, operation of these units in context of Rotax 582-90 fuel system?
I can't help you with the Facet pump, but I use the HACman and like it. I
installed it per the instructions with few modifications and it works well.
I exchanged their awful black tube wrapping for a plastic braided sock that
looked a lot nicer. I also used an EPM.AV firewall fitting with a long
piece of fire-sleeve on the firewall side to help preclude an engine fire
entering the cabin after melting the vent tubing.
The only thing I can add that's not in the instructions is that when I'm
flying I typically go full rich before any significant descent. I then
descend at the angle I want and set the RPM's for 5800. I vary the angle of
descent and RPM to get an EGT of 1200. If I get too steep, the EGT gets too
high, even at 5800 RPM, (over-driving the engine,) so I pull it up, (slow
down,) until the EGT's get back below 1200. (My EIS gives me a warning at
1200 so the EGT's never get over about 1210F.) If I want to descend steeper
I drop the RPM way down. (You have to watch the cold seizure then.)
>
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight G-CDXY |
Michel
There is much more inertia with the Mk7 due to the increased weight this
makes it more stable. The simplified mixer for the flaperons together
with the differential movement results in less rudder input than on the
Mk3 and a lot more feel.
My Mk3 had a 582 so the increase in power with the 912S is very
noticeable with a significant increase in cruise speed and climb rate.
There are lots of small changes that have added to the comfort. Good
heater, no drafts from the doors, somewhere to put the coat and bags, a
bit more width in the cockpit all in all quite a different aircraft.
In the UK there is only one other Mk7 flying with two more being built,
most of the Kitfox fleet of about 50 aircraft are Mk2 and 3 versions
with a handful of Mk1 and 4 and just one Mk5.
Regards
David
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| Subject: | Re: fluff: world's smallest twin engine airplane |
On Dec 12, 2006, at 5:56 PM, Jim Crowder wrote:
> Hey guys. Check out the link below. I don't know how he got himself
> into the plane and boy could it fly.
That's the French Cri-Cri. We have one in our district and I have seen
it flying once. They guy can carry the wings under his arms. The only
thing is that it can't be registered in Europe as an ultralight
aircraft (a paradox, really) because the wings are not very big and his
stall speed is over 63 km/h, our definition of the utralight class.
Therefore it needs the PPL-A license to fly. Silly, isn't it?
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: fluff: world's smallest twin engine airplane |
And if you want to find out more about this amazing little plane, go to the
web-site shown on the clip, www.flight.cz/cricri.
Clem Nichols
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Crowder" <jimlc@att.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: fluff: world's smallest twin engine airplane
>
> Hey guys. Check out the link below. I don't know how he got himself into
> the plane and boy could it fly.
>
> Jim Crowder
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlV8WJ6N3nU
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight G-CDXY |
On Dec 12, 2006, at 7:36 PM, David Steade wrote:
> There is much more inertia with the Mk7 due to the increased weight
> this makes it more stable.
Thanks, David. Of course, one would expect that the aircraft becomes
better and better in the later models. Now, I know better how.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Model 4 headroom clearance |
Hi folks,
I am considering purchase of a model 4 in need of some work. My concern
is
there seemed to be very little, perhaps only one half inch, of clearance
between my head and the primary structure directly above. I am 5=928
=BD=92=92 tall
(a giant by no means). It seemed like a little turbulence could be a
problem with head banging. The gentleman who owns the aircraft is a
couple
of inches shorter than I, so it could have been a non-issue. I did not
see
any extra padding under the stock seats pads. Ideas, comments, or
design
information appreciated.
Thanks
john
John D. Cotter, Interim Chair
SIUC Department of Aviation Technologies
(618) 536 3371
jcotter@siu.edu
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| Subject: | Re: Model 4 headroom clearance |
Hey John,
Unless the plane has unusually thick cushions or a
non-standard seat you shouldn't have any problem.
I'm 5-11" and my dad and brother are 6-2" (they ARE
pretty big) and we fit. It's cozy but not
uncomfortable.
I've never banged my head on the skylight.
Regards,
Ted
IV-2000 962TC
--- Original Message ---
From: "John Cotter" <jcotter@siu.edu>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 4 headroom clearance
>Hi folks,
>
>
>
>I am considering purchase of a model 4 in need of
some work. My concern
>is
>there seemed to be very little, perhaps only one
half inch, of clearance
>between my head and the primary structure directly
above. I am 5=928
>=BD=92=92 tall
>(a giant by no means). It seemed like a little
turbulence could be a
>problem with head banging. The gentleman who owns
the aircraft is a
>couple
>of inches shorter than I, so it could have been a
non-issue. I did not
>see
>any extra padding under the stock seats pads.
Ideas, comments, or
>design
>information appreciated.
>
>
>
>Thanks
>
>john
>
>
>
>John D. Cotter, Interim Chair
>
>SIUC Department of Aviation Technologies
>
>(618) 536 3371
>
>jcotter@siu.edu
>
>
>
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I believe I've narrowed my choices to the Kitfox SS or the RV12 - plan to place
my order at Air Adventure 2007. I'm hoping someone will be willing to answer
my question about the Kitfox SS fusalog. Is the fuse normalized after welding
by the factory? If not why do you think this process is not important to the
strength of the structure? I sent this question to the factory and have not received
a reply; they must be busy with the move.
__________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Model 4 headroom clearance |
John,
I am 6'4" and fly a Kitfox Classic IV with Skystar cushions. I am quite
comfortable. But you have to remember, I flew a Hughes 300C on police
patrol for 5,000 hours. I find a lot of dropped coins on the sidewalk.
Jeff Columbus, Ohio
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From: John Cotter
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:09 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 4 headroom clearance
Hi folks,
I am considering purchase of a model 4 in need of some work. My
concern is there seemed to be very little, perhaps only one half inch,
of clearance between my head and the primary structure directly above.
I am 5'8 =BD'' tall (a giant by no means). It seemed like a little
turbulence could be a problem with head banging. The gentleman who owns
the aircraft is a couple of inches shorter than I, so it could have been
a non-issue. I did not see any extra padding under the stock seats
pads. Ideas, comments, or design information appreciated.
Thanks
john
John D. Cotter, Interim Chair
SIUC Department of Aviation Technologies
(618) 536 3371
jcotter@siu.edu
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| Subject: | Re: Model 4 headroom clearance |
I have a Model III ,5'10 and no problems
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| Subject: | Re: Advice on fuel system upgrades |
We had a discussion long time ago about the Facet Backup on a 582.
About the only thing that can go wrong with the standard Rotax pulse
pump is 1. The pulse line ruptures causing the pump to become
inoperative. 2. The internal diagram of the pump ruptures causing the
pump to stop pumping. In the case of #2, if you turn on the backup
Facet, the fuel will be pumped into the Rotax pump and then through the
ruptured diaphragm and into the crankcase. In this case, a backup will
do you no good what-so-ever. In the case of #1, if you turn on the
backup, the fuel will also be pumped out the ruptured pulse line and all
over the engine. Still not good. Are there any new opinions on this
possible situation?
Don Smythe
----- Original Message -----
From: Marco Menezes
To: Matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Advice on fuel system upgrades
Listers:
I've just ordered a HacMan unit from Greensky Adventures and a Facet
fuel pump from ACS (as back-up to Mikuni pump). Does anyone have advice
on installation, operation of these units in context of Rotax 582-90
fuel system?
A plumbing diagram for the Facet as a back-up would be really useful.
Thanks in advance.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Advice on fuel system upgrades |
One way valves ( out) on both pumps and then plumb them in parallel.
Takes
care of all the problems you stated.
Noel
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Smythe
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Advice on fuel system upgrades
We had a discussion long time ago about the Facet Backup on a 582.
About
the only thing that can go wrong with the standard Rotax pulse pump is
1.
The pulse line ruptures causing the pump to become inoperative. 2. The
internal diagram of the pump ruptures causing the pump to stop pumping.
In
the case of #2, if you turn on the backup Facet, the fuel will be pumped
into the Rotax pump and then through the ruptured diaphragm and into the
crankcase. In this case, a backup will do you no good what-so-ever. In
the
case of #1, if you turn on the backup, the fuel will also be pumped out
the
ruptured pulse line and all over the engine. Still not good. Are there
any
new opinions on this possible situation?
Don Smythe
----- Original Message -----
From: Marco <mailto:msm_9949@yahoo.com> Menezes
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Advice on fuel system upgrades
Listers:
I've just ordered a HacMan unit from Greensky Adventures and a Facet
fuel
pump from ACS (as back-up to Mikuni pump). Does anyone have advice on
installation, operation of these units in context of Rotax 582-90 fuel
system?
A plumbing diagram for the Facet as a back-up would be really useful.
Thanks
in advance.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin Heater Questions |
Nick,
I am developing a heating system that uses hand warmers which when opened and
exposed to the air heat up to about 125 degrees F. I have calculated that it
will take about 12 of these wrapped around and duct taped to a scat tube stuffed
with pot scrubbers. It should last long enough for a 10 hour flight.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
John May
SW Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: Advice on fuel system upgrades |
Don
I totally agree with you on the fuel pump , and the problems it can
cause. I rebuild my mikuni pump every 2 years and have never had a
problem . it only cost $ 11 . to rebuild . Also replace the pulse line .
Would be easy to this even every year at condition inspection time .
takes little time and would really be worth the trouble .
Just my humble opinion
John Perry
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| Subject: | Re: Heater as requested |
Hi Marco, Sorry I was lazy and just stuck a camera in the cowl.
but here you go http://www.cfisher.com/heatmuff/
Hope that helps you and yes that is carsb heat that works too.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Marco Menezes
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Heater
Dave,
Could you publish some pictures of your heat muff installation? Also,
anyone else who has used similar technique with a 582 exhaust system.
dave <dave@cfisher.com> wrote:
I have a piece of alum bent at about 90 deg in front on bungees to
deflect,
fumes heat etc and protect the bungees from the same.
I have a scoop on backside of rad and it works gear -- no fumes but
Carbon
monoxide it odourless.
Heat Muff on muffler is the best heat aquiring mod you can make in
my
findings. Although a fellow on this list Jim from Belle River
Ontario that
I have met a few times at flyins has a oil cooler plumbed in his
coolant I
think and he says it works great . It is mounted over top of runner
pedals .
He could probably tell you better on the performance of it. He has
little
fans on it too. BTW His Kitfox IV is "pristine" and with 912 weighs
at
about 600 lbs- so you know it a rocket !
I have very minimal airleaks as I have sealed up some like you have.
What dave are you talking to ? >> I saw your video and you have
spring
gear. <<
Too many Daves LOL
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "kitfoxmike"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 10:17 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Heater
>
> Ok Dave you asked for it [Twisted Evil] , now you say that my heat
system
> has the risk of co in the cabin, first off it pulls from the right
side of
> the radiator, and only the right 4 inches. I channel it right in
through
> the hole for the bungee's in the floor. Now, before I had spring
gear I
> had the bungee gear, guess what, the holes in the floor where
open, guess
> what else, in the summer time I had to close that area up as much
as
> possible, why because I would get a bunch of heat from the
radiator and
> would push up through the floor. Now you can't tell me with your
concern
> that you now should have a concern for co entering your airplane,
I saw
> your video and you have spring gear. Also, the old spring gear had
a
> problem from exhaust hitting the leg going from the center of the
plane to
> the wheel, that's what caused most of that gears problem, I can
see it
> hitting the leg and shooting up into the little hole for the
bungees. I
> would be concerned for your situation when i!
> t comes to the exhaust as well. [Wink]
>
> --------
> kitfoxmike
>
>
>
>
> Read
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| Subject: | Re: Model 4 headroom clearance |
You should be fine as I am 5' 9" and no issues.
If you in turbulence tighten your harness :)
Better yet -- take a Kitfox fora flight or snag a ride in one.
Where are you located?
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: John Cotter
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:09 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 4 headroom clearance
Hi folks,
I am considering purchase of a model 4 in need of some work. My
concern is there seemed to be very little, perhaps only one half inch,
of clearance between my head and the primary structure directly above.
I am 5'8 =BD'' tall (a giant by no means). It seemed like a little
turbulence could be a problem with head banging. The gentleman who owns
the aircraft is a couple of inches shorter than I, so it could have been
a non-issue. I did not see any extra padding under the stock seats
pads. Ideas, comments, or design information appreciated.
Thanks
john
John D. Cotter, Interim Chair
SIUC Department of Aviation Technologies
(618) 536 3371
jcotter@siu.edu
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I am flying a classic 4 with a suberu engine and all of the speedster mods
except the shorter wing. I was thinking about testing for a gross weight of
1250 and was wandering if anybody has had problems operating over 1200?
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