---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/14/06: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:46 AM - Re: Advice on fuel system upgrades (Noel Loveys) 2. 06:48 AM - Re: Dear Abby (john perry) 3. 01:06 PM - sliding valve controls oil cooler air (Lynn Matteson) 4. 02:51 PM - Re: Dear Abby (Bradley M Webb) 5. 04:12 PM - Re: gross weight (dcsfoto) 6. 06:39 PM - Re: gross weight (Mark Thompson) 7. 09:54 PM - Re: Dear Abby (akflyer) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:40 AM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Advice on fuel system upgrades Once it's drawn up it is very easy to see the diaphragm leak you talk about. My experience is mostly with the diaphragm pumps on snowmobiles and on the older Tillitson carbs. I have seen some diaphragm perforations. What I have seen is basically the engine shuts down so there is very little fuel overflow into the crank case. I suspect that with a second fuel pump the amount of fuel leaking into the crank case will increase with the engine still running. Two electric fuel pumps is no better.... A problem with the electrical buss could immediately shut down the engine. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Smythe Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Advice on fuel system upgrades See drawing if this is what you are saying about check valves on each pump. This might help in the case of a ruptured pulse line but would not do you any good with a ruptured diaphragm in the Mik pump. Follow the dark fuel line from the header to the crankcase. Raw fuel will pass straight to the crankcase with a ruptured Mik. You would have to isolate the input to the Mik but would probably be too late after discovery. Don Smythe ----- Original Message ----- From: Noel Loveys Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:10 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Advice on fuel system upgrades One way valves ( out) on both pumps and then plumb them in parallel. Takes care of all the problems you stated. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:11 AM PST US From: "john perry" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Dear Abby Dang Just wish I could catch my wife cheating then I would own a new airplane . lol < Hope she does not read this . take care fly safe fly low fly slow fly fun fly kitfox John Perry DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:31 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: sliding valve controls oil cooler air From: Lynn Matteson I just got back from a test flight with my newly installed sliding valve. This valve controls the air to my oil cooler on my Jabiru 2200 engine. I closed the valve during startup, warmed up the engine, and flew. During the flight , I realized that I'd forgotten to open the valve, and the oil temp was 220 F, so I opened the valve, and continued to fly. A little later I saw that the temp was 145F. I can (obviously) control the air opening infinitely from the cockpit, therefore the temperature can be controlled as well. Short of having a thermostat with all its extra plumbing, this serves the purpose well. If I had completely forgotten to look at the oil temp, the EIS would have gone off at the set-point, and no damage would have occurred. Lynn Kitfox IV Speedster...Jabiru 2200 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:51:31 PM PST US From: "Bradley M Webb" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Dear Abby I don't know what's funnier, the story... Or the two of you not getting it! Bradley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kirk hull Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:41 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Dear Abby The elevator is the perfect part to learn how to cover on. Anyone familiar with fabric could walk you through it in no time. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Dear Abby Dear Abby, I've never written to you before, but I really need your advice on what could be a crucial decision. I've suspected for some time now that my wife has been cheating on me. The usual signs... phone rings but if I answer, the caller hangs up. My wife has been going out with the girls a lot recently although when I ask their names she always says, "Just some friends from work, you don't know them." I always stay awake to look out for her taxi coming home, but she always walks down the drive. Although I can hear a car driving off, as if she has gotten out of the car round the corner. Why? Maybe she wasn't in a taxi? I once picked her cell phone up just to see what time it was and she went berserk and screamed that I should never touch her phone again and why was I checking up on her. Anyway, I have never approached the subject with my wife. I think deep down I just didn't want to know the truth, but last night she went out again and I decided to really check on her. I decided to park my Kitfox trailer next to the garage and then hide behind it so I could get a good view of the whole street when she came home. It was at that dreadful moment, crouching behind my plane, that I noticed a large area of de-lamination of poly-fiber on my lower elevator. Is this something I can fix myself with my Technical Counselor or should I take it to a A&P? Thanks, Jim Happy Holidays ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:53 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: gross weight From: "dcsfoto" if you are flying in phase2 of your limitations you will to make a log entry and go back to fhase 1 for 40 hrs of test flying check your limitations they may require you to send a letter to the FAA. The local FAA may give you a letter not requireing phase one flight. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=81614#81614 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:31 PM PST US From: "Mark Thompson" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: gross weight I Fly over gross all the time................................I Think............................. Me AT 220lbs,and my lovly bride at 200lbs....and 26gal fuel,still with a climb at 700 ft min.Powered with a VW 2180 Direct drive. Love my Kitfox 4 and my Bride.....N61AC > [Original Message] > From: Lynn Matteson > To: > Date: 12/13/2006 11:39:31 AM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: gross weight > > > I've got 'em all (speedster mods) including the short wings, and I flew > 16 lbs over (full gas and a heavy friend : )), and there was no > problem...a bit longer TO roll, but no problem. DISCLAIMER: As I often > leave my house unlocked, and my computer on, anybody could have written > this...that's for the FAA in case they're listening/lurking. : ) > > Lynn > p.s. Jabiru 85 horse engine with cruise prop > > On Tuesday, December 12, 2006, at 10:53 PM, kirk hull wrote: > > > I am flying a classic 4 with a suberu engine and all of the speedster > > mods except the shorter wing. I was thinking about testing for a gross > > weight of 1250 and was wandering if anybody has had problems operating > > over 1200? > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:54:37 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Dear Abby From: "akflyer" uhhhhh... who did not get it ????? I think they were dripping with sarcasm...But I could be wrong... eskflyer is an okie now lmao.. -------- Leni Avid C W/582 1260 full lotus .......DO NOT ARCHIVE..... 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